HomeMy WebLinkAboutCOUNCIL STUDY - 2009-09-16 CITY OF LIVONIA— CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES OF STUDY MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 16, 2009
Meeting was called to order at 8:00 p.m. Present: Joe Laura, Brian Meakin,
Tom Robinson, James McCann, Terry Godfroid-Marecki, John Pastor and Laura Toy.
Absent: None.
Elected and appointed officials present: Karen Kapchonick, Superintendent of
Parks & Recreation; Todd Zilincik, City Engineer; Don Knapp, City Attorney; Mark
Taormina, City Planner; Maureen Cosgrove, Assistant City Clerk.
President Toy announced that the Parks and Recreation would like to invite everyone to
their open house at the Livonia Recreation Center, on Hubbard and Five Mile, Sunday,
September 20, from 10:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. Admission is free. Swim or slide down
the 250' water slide, climb the 250' rock wall, or test out their fitness equipment. This is
a beautiful center.
President Toy announced two (2) Public Hearings to be held in the Auditorium of
Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, MI, for the following items:
Wednesday, October 7, 2009, at 7:00 p.m.
Scott A. Bain, CFO, Quality Metalcraft, Inc., requesting approval of an
Industrial Facilities Exemption Certificate for the acquisition of robotic
assembly and weld equipment to produce complete sub-assemblies and
metal stampings at their facility located at 32969 Glendale, Livonia, MI
48150. (Industrial Development Overlay District#109)
Wednesday, October 7, 2009, at 7:00 p.m.
Laurance R. Kornacki, President, A & R Packing Co., Inc., requesting
approval of an Industrial Facilities Exemption Certificate for a building
renovation and acquisition of new equipment to process meat products at
their new facility located at 34165 Autry Street, Livonia, MI 48150.
(Industrial Development Overlay District#111)
Council President Toy announced that item #7 re: a request to approve a proposed
lease agreement between the City of Livonia and the Livonia Chamber of Commerce is
being removed from the agenda by request of the petitioner.
President Toy announced there will be an "X" item at the end of tonight's meeting re. an
approval to create an area of "Bentley Bricks" near the entrance of the Livonia
Recreation Center.
James McCann thanked all the Livonia Citizens that voted on September 15th for the
Primary Election. He said about 2900 showed up at the polls. He is hoping there will be
a little bigger turn out in the November 2009 election.
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McCann requested a moment of silence for former City Assessor, Ronald Mardarios
who passed away on Monday, September 14, 2009. He worked under the McNamara
Administration. He was also a Community Activist and volunteer and former Chair of the
Hearts of Livonia, which has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for a local charity
in St. Mary's Hospital. Visitation will be at Neely-Turowski Funeral Home on Thursday
and Friday, September 17 and 18 from 2:00 p.m. until 9:00 p.m. There will be mass at
11:00 a.m. on Saturday, September 19, 2009 at St. Maurice Catholic Church.
Council President Toy requested a moment of silence for Eileen Bibby who passed
away. She lived in Rosedale Gardens and was very active in the arts.
Council President Toy thanked all the Livonia Citizens who voted on September 15,,
2009.
AUDIENCE COMMUNICATION: None.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. BLOCK PARTY: Bryan Tabor and Clayton Campbell, re: to be held Saturday,
October 31, 2009, from 2:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. from 11548 Cavell to 11499
Cavell, with no rain date requested.
Clayton Campbell, 11499 Cavell, was present to request permission to have a
block party. This is his first block party.
Meakin offered the approving resolution for the Consent Agenda.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
2. REQUEST TO WAIVE THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE: Steven and Lynn
Favers, re: to allow a live band to perform in connection with an informal
celebration scheduled for Saturday, October 3, 2009 from approximately 7:00
p.m. to 10:00 p.m. at 17356 Stamwich.
Steven Favers, 17356 Stamwich, was present to ask that the Noise Ordinance
be waived for a live band to perform in connection with two celebrations — his
mom's birthday and the MI vs MI State game scheduled for Saturday, October 3,
2009 from approximately 7:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m.
McCann offered the approving resolution for the Consent Agenda.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
3. REQUEST FROM THE MICHIGAN LIQUOR CONTROL COMMISSION TO
INVESTIGATE THE REQUEST FROM LIQUOR VAULT II, INC. TO TRANSFER
OWNERSHIP OF A 2008 SDD AND SDM LICENSED BUSINESS WITH
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SUNDAY SALES PERMIT FROM H & A VENTURES, INC.: Division of Police,
re: for the business located at 29241 — 29243 Six Mile, Livonia, MI 48152.
Mohammad Kasham, President of Liquor Vault II, Inc., was present to answer
any questions.
Council President Toy asked Mr. Kasham if he ever ran a liquor store before.
Kasham answered that he ran a liquor store for eighteen years in Ann Arbor. It
was a store similar to the one in Livonia. He was there for the day to day
operations. He oversaw things and made sure things ran the right way. He wants
to make sure his stores are clean and have the right atmosphere. He doesn't
want to ruin the image of Livonia. He doesn't want it to be a hang out, and he
wants the people to feel safe when they come in at all hours of the day.
Laura offered the approving resolution for the Consent Agenda.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
4. AWARD OF BID: Water and Sewer Board, re: for the Coventry Gardens
Subdivision Sanitary Sewer Cleaning, Videotaping and Spot Repairs, with
funding to come from the 2005 Water and Sewer Bond Sale proceeds.
Todd Zilincik, City Engineer, said this is a result of a letter that was sent to DPW
and Engineering in regard to concerns with the age of the subdivision. It was built
back in 1925, which makes it 80 plus years old. There are concerns with mature
trees and residential leeds. Based on that information, they took a look at the
existing As-Built drawings and set up a night meeting with the residents back on
June 18th to try to layout a time frame to try and address the concerns. The
sewer mains would be the City's responsibility, and if there are any issues with
the leeds it may be the resident's responsibility. They received five (5) bids to
clean and TV the lines and do spot repairs and/or some replacements if found
necessary. Part of the issue is they have to go into people's backyards, and first
identify where the easements are. There could be swimming pools, decks or
other issues. A lot of caution and care would have to be taken with the residents
to upkeep their neighborhood and coordinate with them. The bids were tabulated,
and the lowest bidder was based on an evaluation in which cost, experience, and
equipment were factors. If approved, this project would start in October, 2009.
Zilincik recommends the contract go to Downunder Municipal Services, LLC,
2612 Miller Road, Kalamazoo, MI, in the amount of $587,441.85, and allow
potential for alternate bids in the amount of $100,000.00, which way result in
some replacements of mains if found in spring of 2010. He said there is an article
in the September 2009 Municipal Sewer and Water Magazine stating a city in
Corunna, MI, of about one (1) square mile, actually used Downunder, who was
the lowest bidder. The article said the resulting digital video they provided was
priceless in assessing the system and setting repair standards for the City.
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Pastor asked if the City could have the low bid incorporate repairs for the
resident's at the same unit pricing, so that when the City awards these people the
main contract, they aren't going out to the resident's and charging them much
more per square foot or lineal foot. This way when the City does evaluate the low
bidder, they truly are the lowest bidder. What the contractor normally does is get
the cheap price for the City, and while they are in the area, they go knocking on
doors to fix their concrete and then charge the resident's much more per square
foot. In example if a sewer leed is bad, there is not a cost to hold them to any
numbers, and potentially really drive up the cost to the resident. Because, most
likely if it's broken, the resident will just have the contractor do the job, because
he is already there.
Zilincik said that the City did get unit prices for certain situations like a 100 year
old tree that would have to be removed. There are unit prices in there; however,
we don't want to end up being a broker.
Pastor agrees, but said that if the resident has to get extra concrete or sewer
extension work done, that they know the base price the City is being charged and
what the contractor should be charging them. If the resident can find a better
price, then they can get the work done on their own, but at least they have a
base price that they know about, as oppose to the guy just showing up and
saying we're here and this is what we are charging.
Zilincik said they didn't get unit prices, but each case is different. They are
hopeful they would honor the unit prices that were provided.
Pastor said that these guys should know that they should be giving the same unit
price to the resident's if they are being contracted by the City. This should be
incorporated down the road. The biggest thing he sees is the sidewalks. When
the City is doing the sidewalks, the resident's are getting their driveways poured,
not to say that these concrete guys are gouging, but if they are out there, they
should be given the same unit price as the City or even better.
Zilincik said we do that with the sidewalk program. We allow them to sign a
waiver. We send them the information in May. While we are there, it's practical,
we solve our problems, but hopefully, if the resident's budget allows, and they
can address their situation.
Robinson asked about the additional work for $100,000.00. He wanted to know
just how much additional work there is, and would this amount cover what they
are anticipating or will they need more.
Zilincik said their hope is that they go in and evaluate the system. Eight (8) and
ten (10) inch lines seem to be more problematic than the larger lines. Their goal
is to TV and clean the lines with ten (10) inch lines. If they find there are
problems with that, they will continue forward with the larger sizes - 127 157 18
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and 20 inch lines. The alternate bid items put in this bid were to try to be
inclusive. They didn't want to go in and do Phase 1, which is cleaning and TV
only and not have the ability to do repairs on the fly for an emergency repair. In
the same respect they wanted to have a contract to do everything all at once. If
they find out there are problems, they can be evaluated in the fall and/or winter
and the work could be done in the spring. They could replace the segment of
sewer main, or pipe burst it, or open cut it - depending on the factors. He doesn't
anticipate $800,000.00 being spent. They had to do some assumptions based on
the eight (8) and ten (10) inch lines. The goal is to do an assessment this winter,
and come up with a game plan to do Phase 2 in 2010. At least they have unit
prices, and if necessary, they could go out and get better prices if we felt the
amount of quantities is actually lower to refine the cost.
Meakin said he was a little concerned. He asked if the funds were coming from
the water and sewer millage.
Zilincik answered yes, the water and sewer funds from 2005. The TV alone
would cost $100,000.00. If necessary, there is $300,000.00 to do the repairs.
They have identified 25 locations depending on the type of repair that would be
needed. For an investment of $100,000.00 they can at least get a baseline of
what the sewer system is as far as the mains. They can replace it at that time, or
do a spot repair, and determine if they can just get by for the wintertime and
replace it in the spring.
Meakin said his concern is that they wouldn't get started with this program until
the middle of 2010, and coming up with this major expense they may run out of
money for 2011. He wants to know if the funds are going to be there for a major
expense at the end of 2010.
Zilincik said that there is some contingency available, but as far as the funds,
Meakin is correct. They have to look deep into that, because they are also in the
process of updating their water and sewer master plan, and that will help dictate
how much funding they may need in the future. That will have to be looked at as
well with the investment that we find out this fall. Meakin is correct.
Meakin asked if this is a top priority for 2010.
Zilincik said that yes, this is one of the older subdivisions built back in 1925, so
some of this stuff has been put in the ground before then. He thinks that
Rosedale Gardens is another location that is an older sub division, the second
oldest sub division in the City.
Godfroid-Marecki asked if this is the first time the City had to go into Coventry
Gardens to do this.
Zilincik said that about two (2) years ago the DPW did root foaming, where they
went in and tried to clear some of the roots beforehand. This was an effort to try
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to look at the overall system as a whole and try to ensure that they are doing
their part as a City to ensure the mains have been inspected and documented. If
there is a problem it could be with the Ieeds and older trees. Some problems may
be a sewer issue, and some may be actually the main issue. The City is trying to
make sure fewer backups occur, and that they can address these issues and
make sure that it goes through the proper channels and can be taken care of that
way. They are looking at water and sewer master plans, as far as getting capital
improvement projects to go to the next five (5) years, and what they need to do to
make sure they have enough money to cover those potential info structure issues
that come up.
President Toy said that in Coventry there are a lot of trees. The neighbors that
abut the creek would probably have a lot more trees. How would they address
that?
Zilincik said there is technology out there that could adjust the leads. They could
directionally drill a new lead parallel to the existing one. A lot of them are 6 inch
clay pipes. If a joint is separated roots can intrude in the pipe and block it. When
the roots are cut there is potential for the main to back up. It could either be pipe
burst or directionally drilled. The City is trying to solve the problems the best they
can by working with the residents. There will have to be full cooperation with the
residents because there are easements, trees, etc. The City does not want to
have to cut down trees unless they absolutely have to. The residents make that
kind of decision.
President Toy said that she had an issue with her house and they recommended
she put something down her drain. Will they come back if the residents do still
have a problem?
Zilincik said you can actually use a device that actually kills the roots. You pour
this chemical in there and you come back 13 weeks later. At that time you can
actually saw cut the roots out. It should gel at the seam and hopefully prevent
this from happening for a long time. If the pipe has been compromised and the
joints are separated, or there is a crack in the pipe, they may want to replace that
segment. It depends, if there is a shed or deck, we can't access it. There are a lot
of variables that they won't really know until they get in and actually wrap their
hands around it. This is going to be a very dynamic animal. They need full
cooperation with the residents. They aren't out there to move a shed, but they
may need access to this manhole that might be buried. There will be a lot of hand
holding to make sure that everyone is working together to try and solve the
problems so that everyone can have their sewer functional and the mains
operational. Then the maintenance can be done as necessary.
President Toy said that there are a lot of trees in that sub. She asked if the
resident's would be notified.
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Zilincik said if approved, they are looking at starting the cleaning and TV early
October for the entire month. There will be notification letters going out to all the
residents in the subdivision.
Pastor offered the approving resolution for the Consent Agenda.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
5. REQUEST TO APPROVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN WAYNE COUNTY AND
THE CITY OF LIVONIA FOR THE RESURFACING OF MIDDLEBELT ROAD
FROM FIVE MILE ROAD TO SEVEN MILE ROAD: Engineering Division, re:
with the City of Livonia participation estimated to be $199,076.00, or 8% of the
total project cost.
Todd Zilincik, City Engineer, said that they have an intro government agreement
from Wayne County to pave Middlebelt Road from Five Mile to Seven Mile Road.
They thought it would be done this year, but it's already late September. The
estimated cost of this project is $2,512,420.00 of which the County is asking
participation from the City of Livonia in the amount of $199,076.00. This will
require a 50% down payment upon approval. They are requesting Council to
approve the intro government agreement to be executed by the Mayor and Clerk,
and make the down payment so the road can be re-constructed which is in
desperate need of repair.
Pastor wanted to know if they were resurfacing, doing total replacement or a
combination of both.
Zilincik said that this will include re-surfacing and milling down three and a half
(3'/2) inches. There would also be some curb repair and bridge improvements to
the creek. It will be a total upgrade and pavement marking signage and some
storm adjustments.
Pastor offered the approving resolution for the Consent Agenda.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
6. REQUEST TO APPROVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MICHIGAN
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (MDOT) AND THE CITY OF LIVONIA
FOR BICYCLE PATH IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF
HIGHWAY 1-275/1-96 FROM THE NORTH CITY LIMITS AT EIGHT MILE ROAD
TO THE WEST CITY LIMITS NEAR FIVE MILE ROAD: Engineering Division, re.
with the City of Livonia participation estimated to be $2,800.00, or 2% of the total
project cost.
Todd Zilincik, City Engineer, said they have two (2) more of these coming in the
future. MDOT is looking at improving the bike path from Five Mile up to Eight Mile
Road which involves the crossings at the interchanges and also some
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improvements to the pathway. The City's commitment is a cost of $2,800.00 and
the total project amount is $124,600.00. This will make the bike path safer to
cross, and will update some of the problems with the asphalt pavement.
Pastor would like to know if they would also be trimming some of the trees. He
said he wasn't sure either between Eight Mile and Seven Mile or between Seven
Mile and Six Mile (on the west side of 275) the branches and the weeds tend to
overgrow the bike path. He wanted to know if they were going to take care of that
because he tried to take care of that in Lansing a couple times.
Zilincik said that he would have to look into that.
Laura wanted to know where the funds were coming from.
Zilincik said the funds were from ACT 51 Funds, based on population.
Godfroid-Marecki wanted to know what they were going to do with the crossings
to make them safer. She said they are very alarming.
Zilincik said that he sat in the meeting with MDOT, and they had some bicycle
groups there that addressed their concerns with the MDOT design people.
Basically trying to come up with a signal and also trying to make it safe when you
cross at those locations with some additional crosswalks or pavement markings.
They are trying to upgrade the signal timing a little better for bicyclists to cross.
Pastor offered the approving resolution for the Consent Agenda.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
NEW BUSINESS
8. SUBJECT OF GARAGE SALES: Council President Laura M. Toy, re. same.
Council President Toy said that one of the City's employees brought this to
Council's attention. She felt this had some good points and Council may want to
put this to committee. She commands the City employee for doing this and for
sending it up to Council. Council needs these ideas from staff, not only for
garage sales, but for other things. She thought this was a very good idea.
McCann said that since this is to change the Ordinance, he would like to refer
this to the Legislative Committee.
Pastor said that this is a great idea. He said the Ordinance states you are only
allowed to have two (2) garage sales one (1) every six (6) months. In Michigan
there isn't good weather six (6) months apart, especially if they are only allowed
two (2) signs - one on the resident's property and another sign some place else.
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He thinks this is very important and this will help the people out that are doing
garage sales. He agrees with Council McCann.
Toy said that this helps the recycling and re-using efforts in our City. She
mentioned the old saying "One man's trash is another man's treasure". She said
it helps others out.
DIRECTION: REFER TO LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE CONSENT
X1. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL TO CREATE AN AREA OF "BENTLEY BRICKS"
NEAR THE ENTRANCE TO THE LIVONIA RECREATION CENTER: Council
President Laura M. Toy and Council Vice President Terry A. Godfroid-Marecki,
re: to represent the alumni of Bentley School.
Council Vice President Godfroid-Marecki said this is a request for an approval to
create an area of "Bentley Bricks" near the entrance to the Livonia Recreation
Center. She and President Toy both attended Bentley High and talked about
doing this years ago. They thought it would be a great idea since the recreation is
tied into Bentley High. Right now there is a room with graduate pictures and
different paraphernalia. They thought about setting up a self funded project, that
the City would not have any kind of payment into this. Alumni, or families of
alumni, could buy a brick. They thought it would be a remembrance of Bentley.
Karen Kapchonick is present to talk about this.
Council President Toy said that she and Karen were talking about getting this on
the agenda before the Concert Choir's All School Reunion in honor of Jerry
Smith, former Choir Director and the classes of 1967, 68, 69 and 70 — a
combined reunion. She wants to get a jump start since this is a self funded
program. She would like to make sure they have fliers.
Karen Kapchonick, Superintendent, Parks and Recreation, said that one of the
thoughts they had was something located close to the entrance of the
Community Center - right in the area of the flower bed right now, which is just to
the left of the entrance. This could be fixed up with the brick pavers and some
additional landscaping. This would be in a well lit area, and a lot of individuals
would see it, verses having it somewhere else on the grounds. This would be a
constant reminder, and would blend in with the senior lounge where we have the
composites, history of Bentley, and old pictures of Bentley as well. Prior to the
demolition, they were able to cut out the center court that had the "B", and a
couple of individuals fixed that up and it now hangs in our main gym in Court
number one (1).
Toy said they are trying to find the bull dog, she thinks Godfroid-Marecki is
holding on to it.
Godfroid-Marecki said that they have been advised by the Law Department that if
they are to alter any of the land, it needs approval. They will come back to
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Council and the public with the whole program, including how much the bricks
cost. Again, this would be self funded. No monies from the City would be used to
maintain this.
Laura thinks this is an excellent idea. He offers the approving resolution. He said
that they talked about the Recreation Center, when they were going out for the
millage and trying to construct it. The original thought process was to always
have part of Bentley saved. Newman and Associates came up with an interesting
idea to do an all new building, even though it wasn't a direction by Council, but it
made a whole lot of sense to do it. He thinks a remembrance of Bentley is very
good. He goes back to the days when he remembers it was closed by the school
board back in 1985. There was a lot of consternation for years, and years, and
years. It's so nice and wonderful to see that Recreation Center there, because he
feels it's a fitting tribute to the whole site. He is glad that they had the cooperation
of the school district to allow us to obtain the land, and the cooperation of the
citizens to go out for the millage. He thought they had tried to do something like
this before. He feels it would be great and that they would get a lot of
participation from Bentley grads and non Bentley grads. It's a great
remembrance.
Godfroid-Marecki said that they would come back to Council with all the details.
She has a feeling that a lot of people will be interested in this. She thanked Karen
for all her help.
DIRECTION: APPROVING CONSENT
AUDIENCE COMMUNICATION: None.
As there were no further questions or comments, Council President Toy adjourned the
Study Session at 8:43 p.m. on Monday, August 31, 2009.
DATED: September 22, 2009 LINDA GRIMSBY, CITY CLERK