HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1952-06-18 MINUTES OF THE TWENTY-FIFTH SPECIAL 225
MEETING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
The twenty-fifth special meeting of the City Planning Commission was held
on Wednesday June 18, 1952 at the Court House Building, Livonia, Michigan
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bentley at approximately 8:O5PM.
Members present: George Bentley Helen Byers Edwin Conway
Dallas Hay Robert MacIntyre
Members Absent: Harold Bower, Clarence Jahn and Walter Hassell.
Mr. Malcolm Waring, Planning Consultant, was present.
Chairman Bentley called on Mr. Draper of Lambrecht Kelly Company regarding
the proposed Holly Subdivision on Ann Arbor Trail west of Ann Arbor Road.
The Chair then asked Miss Byers to review the correspondence regarding
Holly Subdivision.
Mr. Donald Wilson, Building Inspector, arrived at approximately 8:10 PM.
Mr. Draper said that he would like to bring the Commission up-to-date on
what has taken place regarding his situation in attempting to plat a sub-
division, or obtain approval on same. During his explanation, Mr. Draper
said that Mr. Kinyon was the only person who had brought customers to him
to purchase land. He said that the subdivision approval had been held up
because he was not able to do anything about the lots that had been sold,
and Mr. Waring had advised him on the phone that these lots should be in-
cluded in the subdivision. In summary, Mr. Draper said that an injustice
had been done as he felt that he had cooperated to the full extent.
Mr. Brashear and Mr. Bower arrived at approximately 8:30 PM.
E The Chair called a short recess at 8:30 PM.
At approximately 8:35 PM, the meeting was called to order and Mr. Brashear
and Mr. Bower were briefed on what had transpired heretofore.
Chairman Bentley advised Mr. Draper that the situation is the same now
as it was a few months ago when the Commission advised that the lots that
had been sold should be included in the plat as out-lots and the dedication
be made to the City for road right-of-way before approval could be given.
Therefore, the Chair suggested to Mr. Draper, once more, to secure the
signatures of the lot owners and they need not join with the subdivision
as long as written dedications are received by the City for right-of-way
for road; and that the Planning Commission feels it is Mr. Draper's res-
ponsibility in view of the fact that the Master Thoro-fare Plan was
adopted April 19, 1951, long before their plat was present for approval.
Upon a motion duly made by Dallas Hay, seconded by Edwin Conway, it was
RESOLVED, to table this proposed plat of Holly Subdivision until
Mr. Draper brings in written dedication for road right-of-way
from the present owners of the four parcels of land not included
in the Holly Subdivision.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
E AYES: Hay, Conway, Borer, Maclntyre, Bentley and Byers
NAYS: None
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Next, Chairman Bentley called on Mr. Roth of Durable Home Builders,
regarding a tentative plat of a subdivision on Harrison between Joy aM
West Chicago.
There was a general discussion regarding the plat. Mr. Roth said that he
wanted to find out what is not right on the plat in order to correct same
and proceed with a plat. Mr. Roth was advised by the secretary that four
copies of the plat and letter of transmittal were necessary under the
subdivision regulations and he was further advised that the next meeting
of the Planning Commission will be held on Wednesday, June 25, 1952. Mr.
Roth was very cooperative and would see that the several suggested charges
were incorporated in the plat.
It was suggested by Mr. Conway that some property is needed in these new
subdivisions for playgroun°s, commonly Down as tot lots, and it might be
that if the situation were properly approached, the subdivider might pro-
vide the space and could use this as a selling point.
Mr. Brashear advised the Commission that a Plat Book bad been secured by
the Council and the book will remain at the Court House. The secretary
will need only to secure the extra copies for Waring and Johnson.
Miss Byers read a letter dated June 18th from the City Clerk with reference
to the purchase of land by the Department of Parks and Recreation and re-
questing a report and recommendation on same by the Planning Commission to
be furnished on or before June 23, 1952. (A copy of the letter addressed
to Mayor Ziegler from Clarence Hoffman, Chairman, Park Board was enclosed.)
The location of the purchase is West Chicago and Harrison for a park and
school site.
Mr. Waring said that he sat in with the Joint Committee and what they have
recommended to the Planning Commission is what he also recommends as being
a logical size and location.
Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway, seconded by Dallas Hay and unani-
mously carried, it was
RESOLVED, to approve the action of the Department of Parks and
Recreation.
Miss Byers then read a letter received from the City Attorney re Park and
School sites. The letter pointed out what had already been accomplished,
i.e., "Thus far, the following parts of the Master Plan have been adopted:
Part I - Thoroughfare Plan, Part II - Civic Center, Part III - Subdivision
Rules and Regulation." The new Zoning Ordinance will probably become Part
IV of the Master Plan and it is possible that Part V could be designated
Parks and Recreation Sites and Part VI - School Sites. When funds are not
available for immediate purchase, the only way that these sites can be set
aside is by designating them in parts of the Master Plan.
There was a further discussion regarding the acquisition of tot-lots in
various new subdivisions to take care of the small children in the im-
mediate vicinity.
Miss Byers read a letter dated June 10, 1952 from the City Attorney re-
ferring to the regular meeting of the City Council held on November 26,
1951 referring Petitions $41, 42 and 43 to the Planning Commission for
recommendation.
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Miss Byers read a copy of a letter to the City Clerk from the City
Attorney regarding the request of the Planning Commission to set a public
hearing on petitions 53 to 58, inclusive for July 2, 1952, notice of which
must be published in the "Livonian" on June 13, 1952.
Miss Byers announced that she had a phone call from Mr. Larkin Steen,
Livonia 4452, of 12011 Cavell at corner of Wadsworth regarding the fact that
he had heard that the Planning Commission is planning to change the zoning
in his section to M-1.
A statement was presented from Waring and. Johnson dated June 1, 1952
in the amount of $174.89 covering April and May services.
Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway, seconded by Robert MacIntyre and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, to refer Waring and Johnson's statement in the
amount of $174.89 to the City Council for payment.
Mr. Bentley said that at the next meeting he would like to have the election
of officers. A short discission ensued, and it was decided to hold the
election at once. Upon a motion duly made by Dallas Hay, seconded by
Robert MacIntyre, it was
RESOLVED, to hold the election of officers immediately in view
of the fact that Messrs. Jahn and Russell will be absent again
on June 25, due to vacations; likewise Mr. Harold Bower.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hay, Conway, Bower, Maclntyre, Bentley and Byers
NAYS: None
Mr. Bentley informed the assembly that he appreciated the honor the members
of the Commission had bestowed upon him by electing him Chairman for two
years but he naw thought it time for some other member to have the privilege.
The Chair declared nominations open for Chairman.
Robert Maclntyre nominated Dallas Hay; seconded by Edwin Conway. No other
nominations were received.
Harold Bower moved that nominations be closed and that the Secretary be
instructed to cast a unanimous ballot for the election of Dallas Hay for
Chairman for the ensuing year, seconded by Edwin Conway.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resulted in the following:
AYES: Hay, Conway, Bower, MacIntyre, Bentley and Byers
NAYS: None
The Chair declared nominations open for Vice-Chairmen.
Dallas Hay nominated Robert Maclntyre for Vice-Chairman, seconded by Helen
Byers. No other nominations were received.
Dallas Hay moved that nominations be closed and that the Secretary be in-
structed to cast an unanimousballot for the election of Robert Maclntyre
for Vice-Chairman for the ensuing year. Seconded by Harold Bower.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resulted in the following:
AYES: Hay, Conway, Bower, MacIntyre, Bentley and Byers
NAYS: None
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The Chair declared nominations open for secretary.
Harold Bower nominated Helen Byers; seconded by Robert Maclntyre. No other
nominations were received.
Dallas Hay moved that nominations be closed and that the secretary be in-
structed to cast a unanimous ballot for the election of Helen Byers for
Secretary for the ensuing year; seconded by Robert Maclntyre.
The Chairman, Goerge Bentley, thereupon instructed the Secretary to cast
unanimous ballots for the election of the following members to hold their
respective offices for the term of one year and/or until their successors
have been elected.
Dallas Hay - Chairman
Robert Maclntyre - Vice-Chairman
Helen Byers - Secretary
Mr. George Bentley then turned the meeting over to Mr. Dallas Hay.
Miss Byers, Secretary, reported to the assembly that on Wednesday, June 4,
1952, when the Planning Commission Committee was leaving the Pen-Mar Cafe
she stopped to talk with Mr. Jack Spanich who explained he had been ap-
pointed on a committee of three to solve the parking problems for the mer-
chants in Rosedale Gardens. It was the consensus that Miss Byers contact
Mr. Spanich and find out more regarding this committee as they would be
the logical persons to contact in trying to solve the various problems
that come up on parking along Plymouth Road, especially in the Rosedale
Gardens vicinity.
Miss Byers read a copy of a letter addressed to F. C. Standiford from the
City Attorney in answer to Mr. Standiford's letter of May 7, 1952. The
letter stated that as long as the present ratio of parking area to building
area is maintained, there should be no reasonable objection to removing the
boundary between the B and C zones and rearranging the parking area to suit
such plans for development of the area as will enable Mr. Standiford to
actually obtain commitments from merchants and business houses.
Upon a motion duly made by Edwin Conway, seconded by George Bentley, it was
RESOLVED, that pursuant to a written request of Mr. F.C. Standiford
dated May 7, 1952 and written on behalf of his principals, Mr.
and Mrs. Ira M. Petersime, the City Planning Commission hereby
recommends to the City Council that the City enter into an
agreement with Mr. and Mrs. Petersime providing that districts
B and C as designated in Part 2 of the Master Plan be combined
in one district to be zoned and classified merely as a C-2
district on condition that the present ratio of parking area
as to building area in the combined districts, as determined
by Waring & Johnson, Planning Consultants, 3.2 feet parking
area to 1 foot building area, be maintained in such new C-2
district; and that all previous agreements with Mr and Mrs.
Petersime be amended accordingly.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hay, Conway, Bower, Maclntyre, Bentley and Byers
NAYS: None
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The Chair called. upon Mr. Wilson, Building Inspector, who presented plans
and location for the new post office. A lengthy discussion followed.
Mr. Waring was asked for his recommendation. He advised the parking area
should be four times the size of the post office building area. Mr. Waring
was asked to send the Planning Commission a letter stating his recommenda-
tion with copies to the Building Inspector regarding the post office.
The members of the Planning Commission thought this problem worthy of con-
sulting with the parking committee of which Jack Spanich is a member.
Upon a motion duly made by Robert MacIntyre, seconded by George Bentley and
unanimously carried, it was
RESOLVED, that this meeting be adjourned.
At approximately 11:10 PM, the Chairman, Dallas Hay, declared the meeting
adjourned.
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Helen E. Byers, etary
ATTESTED:
Dallas Hay, Chairman