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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1957-01-08 15 MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION On January 8, 1957 the above meeting was held by the City PlanningCommission of the City of Livonia at the City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Vice-Chairman H. Paul Harsha called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 8:06 p.m. Members present: Robert L. Greene Wilfred Okerstrom Charles Walker Karle Steinhoff Leonard Kane *H. Paul Harsha Fred A. Lotz Robert L. Miller Members absent: William R. Robinson Lieutenant Bob Perry, Livonia Fire Department and Charles Pinto, Asst. City Attorney were present together with approximately 35 people attending the Public Hearing. The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda was the proposed Spring Valley Subdivision located on the North side of Seven Mile Road between Merriman and Hubbard Roads in the East 1/2 of Section 3. Mr. James L. Johnson was present. The Chair announced that at the last meeting, December 18, 1956 in addition to the five items listed in resolution, the Commission also questioned the proposed set back of homes on Seven Mile Road compared to existing set back and how excepted parcel of land was to be used. The secretary read letters dated January 3, 1957 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Department; dated January 4, 1957 and December 27, 1956 from R. McCary, City Engineer and Dave Meinzinger, Director of Public Works and dated January 4, 1957 from Donald Wilson, Chief Inspector. Mr. Harsha stated that in addition to those lots mentioned in letter from the Chief Inspector as being undersized he would include Lots 160, 448 and 486. Believed Lots 474 through 482 are located in a natural flood plain and from the layout as shown on revised plat, it will require fill to bring lots up to at least 45° slope and what that would do would be a serious question. Even if the Commission would allow this, the County officials might object as petitioner would be interfering with the natural drainage. Mr. Lotz referred to Lots 517, 537 and 550 as being undersized. Also the jog is a traffic hazard that might better be a rounded corner. Referred to Lots 534 through 558 as possibly shedding water onto adjacent property. Condition occurred near the corner of Middlebelt and Joy Roads. Did not feel Commission had the right to approve something that will interfere with area drainage. Mr. Harsha stated Commission has no way of telling whether proposed subdivision will flood adjoining property owners inasmuch as Commission does not have finished grade of subdivision. Mr. Johnson stated the drainage is to be diverted to the Tarabusi Drain. There is a drain over the back of the excepted parcel and the abstract calls for an outlet for that drain. The drain is being diverted and an outlet will be provided as far as the outlet is concerned. The engineering plan will show the finished grade which is subject to approval of the community. Mr. Harsha stated Commission has province to pass on engineering plans and it would be good to have them. Another thing was the future development of adjoining property. Nothing is shown as to what use is to be made of outlot of parcel. Commission has to know what is going to happen to outlot. Believed petitioner was going to have a meeting with the adjoining property owners. Asked whether such a meeting was held. Mr. Johnson stated a meeting was not held. Did discuss plat after the meeting December 18, 1956. Many of the suggestions at that time were felt to be impractical; therefore plan was not changed and did not t?-ink it was necessary to contact adjoining property owners. Mr. Lotz stated he mentioned at the last meeting that there should be a road along the excepted parcel which petitioner has done but there is still a row of homes on the East side of road. Petitioner has cut off any acces s residents might have to use the back portion of their property. Mr. Johnson stated as he remembers it, one of the property owners objected to the road running along the excepted parcel. Mr. Lotz stated he did not believe that was true. Mr. Harsha referred to Article r, Section 4.02 (a) and 4.08, Subdivision Rules and Regulations. Mr. Greene referred to area map and stated that as far as he could see there is still no provision for access to school property which was requested by the Board. Read again letter dated Decemberl7, 1956 from Benton Yates, Supt., Livonia Public Schools. Mr. Johnson referred to letter dated January 2, 1957 from himself directed to Commission when revised plat was filed. Believed that he requested that the subdivision plat be accepted with the condition that outlet of sufficient capacity at points in this subdivision nearest the school site be provided. Informed Commission that he is in the process of obtaining the right—of—way on which the two streets are shown. Until the right—of—way has been secured could not commit himself. Mr. Greene stated that until petitioner does commit him— self, could not see how Commission could approve plat. Mr. Lotz stated petitioner is still going to back the houses onto Seven Mile Road with a mere 401 set back. Suggested at the last meeting that a few of the homes be built at a parallel and petitioner stated that it could be done. Mr. Johnson stated that they discussed this with Land Planner. Recalled Commission's suggestion but the homes have been turned to face the intersect— ing street. Mr. Lotz stated in his opinion turning the lots does not alleviate the situation. This is one of the nicer sections on Seven Mile Road. Mr. Johnson asked how much set back the Commission wanted. Mr. Lotz stated existing homes set back 237/. Didn't say petitioner would have to go back that 155 far, just as far as necedsary so that adjoining residents could see. There are no other homes on Seven Mile Road siding to Seven Mile Road as shown on revised plat. Mr. Johnson stated he attempted to purchase additional land but was not able to. Felt something could be worked out regarding Northwest corner of Seven Mile and Merriman Roads. Mr. Lotz suggested contacting residents again. Mr. Johnson asked whether Commission referred to a North-South or East-West street. Mr. Lotz suggested East-West street in that that would alleviate situation whereby residentF could use back portion of their property. Suggested homes along Seven Mile Road and this area be such that they would not place existing homes in a pocket. Mr. Harsha stated an East-West street would run 150' back so that houses would back up against the proposed homes on Gable Avenue. Petitioner would have to buy the back end of the property which Commission cannot force him to do but if he were to give access to Auburndale Avenue by a road down from the back end of these lots from the intersection of Auburndale Avenue andttake out one lot, it might work out to everyones advantage. Mr. Johnson asked whether plan meets with Commission's approval other than the excepted parcel and possible access to it. Stated that as far as furnishing sanitary sewer outlet to school site, plat could the approved subject to furnishing outlet and acquiring right-of-way. Mr. Harsha asked how long it will be before right-of-way will be acquired. Mr. Johnson stated that that is impossible to say but that they will take immediate steps. Mr. Harsha asked whether it would be before canvas back plat is submitted to Commission. Mr. Johnson stated it would. Mr. Lotz asked size of outlet and what it will connect with. Mr. Johnson stated it will be whatever is sufficient capacity as determined by the engineers. Mr. Lotz asked whether petitioner considered 15" sewer adequate to take care of 554 homes and school. Mr. Johnson stated he could not answer that question. Mr. Greene stated letter from City Engineer states sewer is adequate for the subdivision. Wondered if City Engineer was considering Thool as wellas sub- division. The secretary reread letter dated December 27, 1956 from W. R. McCary, Engineer and Dave Meinzinger, Director of Public Works. Mr. Harsha stated City Engineer does not commit himself about the school. Mr. Greene stated it would be very embarrassing to get this all in and then find out it is notadequate for t he school. Mr. Harsha stated that that is true but that petitioner has appeared before Commission before and this is the second hearing on proposed subdivision. Nine interested residents were present objecting to plat as presented. Mr. George Harmon, 31670 Seven Mile Road stated if East-West street were cut through excluded area, there would be 27 more homes constructed. As it is, residents are not in a position to dispose of property. Also if petitioner 1554 ima raised the grade of his property 2', about 200' of our property will have water flowing back onto it. Like to know what petitioner intends to do with excepted area. Suggested petitioner sit down with residents and that some— thing might be worked out. Discussed proposed subdivision after meeting December 18, 1956 and petitioner stated he would revise plat, call me and furnish me with a copy of the revised plat. First residents knew of hearing tonight was last night. Mr. Johnson stated that there was no agreement made. Mr. Harmon stated Mr. Johnson took his number both at work and home and that he was told he would be contacted. Mr. Johnson stated it was said that he would be contacted in the event the suggestions of the residents were adopted. Mr. Harmon stated Mr. Johnson took measurements of the exi-ting homes and stated he could see no reason why it couldn't work out and everyone went home happy. Mr. Jacob Breitenbach, 31750 Seven Mile Road asked the Commissioners to place themselves in his spot in the way this proposed plat is laid out. Would Commissioner-- like to look at six back yards everytime they looked out their window. Existing residents are going to get all the drainage from these back yards. As stated by Mr. Harmon, Mr. Johnson agreed to furnish residents with a copy of revised plat and Mr. Johnson thought suggestions as made could be worked out. Stated regarding Mr. Johnson's statement regarding one of the property owners objecting to road running along the excepted parcel, he would much rather have a street than the back yards of homes. Also objected tot back as shown on revised plat. Mr. W. Louis Boyington, 31700 Seven Mile Road stated he concurs with remarks as made by Mr. Harmon. It was suggested before that the homes along Seven Mile Road be staggered to conform with set back of existing homes. Feel residents are entitled to this incrder to maintain value of exiting homes. Also homes should be facing Seven Mile Road rather than siding as shown on revised plat. Mr. Greene asked Mr. J hnson rt ether he was willing to meet with people in area. Mr. Johnson stated he was. Mr. Greene asked Mr. Johnson whether he was willing to have Commission table proposed plat in order to give him an opportunity to meet with people. Mr. Pinto reminded Commissioners of M.S.A. 5.3005 in which statute Commission has to either approve or deny proposed plat within 60 days or else petitioner can demand approval. Thought Commission should keep this fact in mind in considering whether or not item should be tabled. Mr. Greene asked whether Mr. Pinto is suggesting that Commission ask petitioner to waive 60 day limitation. Mr. Pinto stated Commission should approve plat, deny plat or ask for waiver. Mr. Greene asked Mr. Johnson if he would be willing to waive 60 days limitation. Mr. Johnson stated that under the circumstances he would expressly waive 60 day period during which plat must be either approved or denied. 155$5 Mr. Greene suggested that if two lots are combined (Lots located on either side of Auburndale and Osmus Avenues) there would be a depth of 150' which would permit a nice set back. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Lotz and unanimously carried, it was #1-1-57 RESOLVED that, the proprietor, Mr. James L. Johnson, having expressly waived the 60 day statuatory period contained in , M.S.A. 5.3005 the City Planning'Comrriission does hereby table the proposed Spring Valley Subdivision located on the North side of Seven Mile Road between Merriman and Hubbard Roads in the East 1/2 of Section 3 toafford petitioner an opportunity to meet with residents who are concerned and work out a solution to their problems as well as to provide an opportunity to clarify one or two points, specifically, (1) Lots located in natural flood plain; (2) Lots 517 and 550 being rounded off; (3) 'larifying the matter of rliether or not the sanitary and storm sewer will be adequate to take care of both the proposed subdivision and the proposed school; (4) Fronting homes on Seven Mile Road and (5) Undersized lots. The Vice-Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted and called a recess at approximately 9:10 p.m. The meeting w as called to order at approximately 9:24 p.m. with all present as named at the beginning and during the course of the meeting except Karle Steinhoff and Charles Walker who returned later. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Application TA21 by Harold H. Gordon, Alby Development Company requesting permission to remove topsoil situated on the North 1/2 of Parcel 24BB located South of proposed Lyndon Street, North of Schoolcraft Road, between Middlebelt Road and Slavik's Buckingham Village Subdivision in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24. Messr. Harold Gordon and Louis Begin wsre present. Messrs. Karle Steinhoff and Charles Walker returned to meeting at approximately 9:25 p.m. Mr. Pinto informed Commission that inasmuch as he was out of the City today, he had not had an opportunity to write opinion as requested by Mr. Walkers He did however, have an opportunity to discuss matter with Mr. Walker and thought the question had been cleared. Mr. Walker stated newly submitted topographic survey shows that there is top- soil to be removed. Suggested that in removing dirt, if application is granted, that petitioner keep in mind that thedrain as shown on survey, must be kept open and clean. Stated there is a piece of land West of area that had dirt removed sometime ago. At that time some dirt was put back although he understood that petitioner has taken some of this dirt off of that area. Thought that should be considered and that Commission include that petitioner is to bring that particular piece to grade level. 150 Ione Mr. Gordon stated that they own parcel in ouestion and that altogether they C`5 own approximately 100 acres. Have been bringing area up to grade as they go along. The topsoil has been stockpiled. Mr. Kane asked whether he is correct in that survey shows finished grade. Mr. Gordon stated that that is true. Mr. Harsha referred to Section 4.04 and 4.13, Zoning Ordinance, No. 60. Wondered whether Commission is etting too generous in letting applicants go a little low on removals. Passed property over the week end and noticed a number of children skating on a pond directly to the North of parcel. If there is a pond on property, there is something wrong with the property. Mr. Gordon stated that the dirt is not on the property and that the pond and holes occur on the property mentioned by Mr. Walker. Mr. Miller asked whether petitioner intends to build on property. Mr. Gordon stated they are and that they will be starting with the Belle-Lynn Subdivision in two weeks and continuing onto this property. No one was present objecting to petition as presented. Mr. Lotz asked whether petitioner intends to bring property up to grade. Mr. Gordon stated he did. Mr. Walker asked whether Commission had letter from the Police Department. The secretary read letters dated December 3, 1956 from Dallas F. Hay, Police Commissioner and from Patrolman William Newstead addressed to Police Commissioner Hay. Mr. Harsha referred to portion of Section 4.13, Zoning Ordinance, No. 60 and stated that to the best of his knowledge the building grade is the grade at the building which is a minimum of 1' above the nearest sidewalk andoould be at least 15" or 16" above crown of street. Asked whether petitioners intended to have homes on Middlebelt Road. Mr. Begin stated they did not. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller and seconded by Mr. Kane, it was #1-2-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held December 4, 1956 the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Application TA21 by Harold H. Gordon, Alby Development Company requesting permission to remove topsoil on the North 1/2 of Parcel 24BB located South of proposed Lyndon Street, North of Schoolcraft Road, between Middlebelt Road and Slavik's Buckingham Village Subdivision in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24, and FURTHER RESOLVED, that a performance bond be fixed on the above application at $10,000 and it is recommended to the Bureau of Inspection that a permit to this effect be issued, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart- ments as listed in the Proof of Service and recommendations having been obtained from the Department of Public Works under 1560 7 date of December 4, 1956 and from the Police Department under date of December 3, 1956. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Greene, Okerstrom, Kane, Walker, Harsha and Miller NAYS: Steinhoff and Lotz The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-36 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission to erect a gasoline service station on Parcels 01FF1 and 01FF2GG located on the Northwest corner of Seven Mile and Angling Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 1. The secretary read letter dated December 26, ln56 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Department. Mr. Michael J. Caffery was present. Mr. Caffery stated that after the widing of Seven Mile Road the parcel will be only 108' deep (buildable property after house is removed) . Mr. Steinhoff asked whether petitioner is going to provide greenbelt. Mr. Caffery stated they will provide at least a 10' greenbelt and a fence. Mr. Greene asked whether Commission usually had plot plan showing ingress and egress and location of pumps. It was ascertained that in most instances the Commission did have such a plot plan. Mr. Richard Lefeibre, 19111 Angling Road stated already there are three gas stations in the immediate area and that in his opinion three stations in a half mile is sufficient. There is noise and fumes and did not think it would help value of property at all. There are other types of businesses that can go in there. Discussed the possibility of alley being cut through back of property. Mr. Caffery stated he did not know anything about alley. Mr. Lefeibre stated Commission has to consider alley in its thinking inasmuch as property to the West is to be used for business. Mr. Harsha stated Mr. Lefeibre has a point in that there should be an alley behind business property. Mr. James Pollock, 28050 Seven Mile goad stated if alley is cut through area, it will go through his existing garage. Mr. Caffery stated that the building as shown on submitted sketch will be placed at an angle rather than as shown. Mr. Greene stated Commission likes to have on file something showing ingress, egress and location of pumps. Mr. Lotz stated that building will face Seven Mile Road and that access will be from main and side streets. Makes no difference which way building faces. a 15 IINNAba Mr. Caffery drew in sketch proposed locations of pumps, ingress and egress as required. Stated proposed station is to be a neighborhood station and not a major 24 hour station. Mr. Greene asked whether Commissioners felt they should consider matter of the alley at this time or whether it should be deferred. Mr. Harsha stated that whether commission can have petitioner put alley through their own property is a question. It will work hardship on the adjacent property owner. There is no question Commission can insist on their putting an alley behind business property. Mr. Pinto stated generally speaking, in a zoning matter, Commission is con- fined to the situation a s it exists at the time the decision is being made. Sometimes that may appear t o work an injustice. Mr. Greene stated that in other words, if there was a hardship created by this thing, that is just too bad. Mr. Pinto stated that he has to work at things from the viewpoint if he is in Court tomorrow what the cbcision of the Court might be. Mr. Harsha stated that it is the Commission's duty to see that alleys are be- hind C-2 property; therefore, Commissioner's can vote as they wish but it was his personal feeling that Commission is within its rights to have an alley put through. If a store were erected on that property it will be necessary for them to have access. Mr. Walker stated that if Commission were to consider an alley behind the business property, is the Commission sure that there is sufficient land for gas station and an alley. Mr. Harsha stated the Subdivision Rules and Regulations calls for 20' alley. Mr. Caffery stated that he wants to gpt along with the neighbors because they are the ones who are going to buy the gas. If an alley is placed at the rear of the property, could not give away 20' for alley plus 10' for greenbelt. If it is for the purpose of servicing C-2 property, there and adjoining this particular piece of property, will agree to some sort of an agreement if and when the Commission deems it necessary. Suggested 10' or 20' easement on the West line of parcels thereby servicing property to the West. Station does not need alley in the back and it might be a hardship on theaijoining property. Mr. Harsha stated there must be access to the rear. TheFecretary read Section 4.03, Subdivision Rules and Regulations. Mr. Steinhoff stated petitioner should beafforded an opportunity to submit workable plot plan with the thought that that there be an alley. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Steinhoff and seconded Iv Mr. Lotz, itwes #1-3-57 RESOLVED that, Petition M-36 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission to erect a gasolineservice station on Parcels O1FF1 and 01FF2GG located on the Northwest corner of Seven f. 1562 9 e Mile and Angling Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1 E I be tabled until February 5, 1957 in order to afford petitioner an opportunity to provide Commission with plot plan. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYF_. : Greene, Steinhoff, Lotz, Okerstrom, Walker and Miller NAYS: Kane and Harsha Mr. Greene suggested petitioner explore alley situation and the right angle as suggested by petitioner is not too good. Mr. Caffery asked whether he had to have greenbelt and alley both. Mr. Harsha stated that the regulation read (Section 4.03) is part of the Sub- division Rules and Regulations. There is the point as to whether these regulations would apply to this particular piece of property. Suggested City Attorney look into this. Do not wish to penalize petitioner if Commission does not have to. The Vice-Chairman called a recess at approximately 10:25 p.m. The Vice-Chairman called the meeting to order at approximately 10:31 p.m. with all present as named at the beginning and course of meeting. *Mr. H. Paul Harsha relinquished the Chair to Robert L. Greene and was excused from the meeting. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-37 by Al's Sign Erection requesting permission to erect an 18' x 4' (72 square feet) neon flat -ign 10" thick, 24 gauge metal U.L. approved 2x24 angle iron frame sign on portion of Parcel 36B1 at the Evergreen Cleaners located at 11508 Middlebelt Road and situated on the Southeast corner of Plymouth and Middlebelt Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 36. The secretary read letter dated December 26, 1956 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Depart- ment. Mr. Maurice Klapman was present (owner of store) . Mr. Klapman stated that the sign is white with a little evergreen tree and will be placed flat against the building. This will be the only sign on the building. Store will be a pick-up station only. No one was present objecting to petition as presented. Upon a motion hely made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Walker and unanimously carried, it was #1-4-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-37 by Al's Sign Erection requesting permission to erect an 18' x 4' (72 square feet) neon flat sign 10" thick, 24 gauge metal U.L. approved 2x24 angle iron frame sign on portion of Parcel 36B1 at the Evergreen Cleaners 1 Ift 4" 0.04.. C"7 located at 11508 Middlebelt Road and situated on the South- east corner of Plymouth and Middlebelt Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 36 since the sign is necessary to business, con- forms with surrounding area and complies with all rules and regulations, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart- ments as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution aiopted. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-38 by Harry Tennyson, Tennyson Chevrolet, Inc. requesting permission to erect OK Used Car authorized Chevrolet Dealer Sign on Parcel 27Elcicl located at 32570 Plymouth Road and - ituated on the North side of Plymouth Road approxi- mately 1,800 feet East of Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 27. Mr. Vincent Green was present representing the petitioner. Mr. Steinhoff asked if there will be over-hang of sign onto right-of-way. Mr. Green stated there will not. Lieutenant Perry stated the Fire Department had no objection to proposed sign. Didn't write letter but did check location for over-hanging wires. No one was present objecting to sign. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously carried, it was #1-5-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-38 by Harry Tennyson, Tennyson Chevrolet, Inc. requesting permission to erect OK Used Car authorized Chevrolet Dealer Sign (Double faced 14' wide, 11' 1" high, 11" thick, 12" I.D. center pole installation. Estimated Current consumption 4500 volt amperes. Approximate weight 2230 lbs. Sign carries labels. OK symbol flashes on and off, border stripes are animated. Flasher units used will not cause radio interference in adjacent residences. All materials inside and outare of top quality and treated as necessary to minimize rust and corrosion) on Parcel 27Elcicl located at 32570 Plymouth Road and situated on the North side of Plymouth Road approximately 1,800 feet Ear,t of Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 27 because it conforms to the regulations of City Ordinances and has proper set back from right-of-way, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of theebove hearing was sent to property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service The Chairmanccclared the foregoing resolution adopted. 1541 The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was resolution No. 12-108-56 adopted b y the Commission December 4, 1956 in which it was determined that there should be a hearing on the question whether or not Cathedral Drive located between Henry huff and Merriman Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 3 5 should be changed to Olson Avenue to correspond t o the alignment of Olson Avenue to the East. The secretary read letter dated January 5, 1957 from Postmaster Arthur G. Jenkins. No one was present objecting to change of street name. Mr. Kane stated he wondered if there were other subdivisions further West that have received tentative approval that had the name of Cathedral Drive on a street. The Commission could think of no other subdivision in area that would carry Cathedral Drive further West. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously carried, it was #1-6-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Cathedral Drive located between Henry Ruff and Merriman Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 35 be changed to Olson Avenue in order to conform with the numbering and alignment of Olson Avenue to the East subject to letter dated January 5, 1957 from Postmaster Arthur G. Jenkins. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. EThe secretary read letters dated November 27, 1956 from Benton Yates, Supt., Livonia Public Schools regarding school sites in Sections 11 and 35. Mr. Miller stated that the proposed site in Section 35 will be directly East of Cathedral Drive. There is a problem as to whether Cathedral Drive should be connected to Olson Avenue and if so how, through the school property. At the present time, there is a row of homes on Cathedral Drive and Olson Avenue. In his opinion the street should be through and that the residents to the North feel that it should connect. Mr. Greene stated it would be in order to ask Board for their opinion. Mr. Miller stated that Comnission should point out alternative of jogging street which would be bad because of the double frontage lots. Lieutenant Perry was excused from meeting at approximately 11:25 p.m. There was a brief discussion of whether or not the proposed school site in Section 11 should be placed on the Master Plan now inasmuch as it is indicated in letter from Mr. Yates that there is some question as to the location of the park site. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Walker and unanimously carried, it was #1-7-57 RESOLVED that, a letter be written to Mr. Benton Yates, Supt. Livonia Public Schools regarding the School and Park Sites in Section 11 (letter dated November 27, 1956 from Benton Yates) informing him that Commission cannot designate the sites on the Master Plan until such time as Commission hears further from the Livonia Public Schools and the Parks and Recreation Commission that the proposed plan is definite. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane and seconded by Mr. Walker, it was #1-8-57 RESOLVED that, statement dated January 2, 1957 from Albe Munson, Planning Consultant for 016.80 be approved and forwarded to the proper department for payment A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Steinhoff, Lotz, Okerstrom, Kane, Walker, Greene and Miller NAYS: None On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted this public hearing was duly adjourned at approximately 11:45 p.m., January 8, 1957. • Ro.ert L. Miller, Secretary ATTESTED: H. Paul Hash Vice- Chairman Robert . G ee e, Chairman pro tem