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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1957-03-05 IWO MINUflS OF A rUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY rLANNING COMMISSION On March 5, 1957 thea bove hearing was held by the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia at the City Hall, 33001 Five Miile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Chairman William R. Robinson called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 8:08 p.m. Members present: =n* Robert L. Greene H. Paul Harsha William Robinson Karle Steinhoff Robert Mi J le r Members absent: * Charles Walker Fred Lotz Wilfred Okerstrom Leonard Kane Lieutenant Bob Perry, Livonia Fire Department was present t ogether with approximately 25 interested residents attending the Public Hearing. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Harsha and unanimous- ly carried, it was #3-52-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission depart from regular order of business in order to dispose of items wherein petitioner has requested withdrawal or tabling action.. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda was Petition No. Z-207 by Albert B. and Della S. Shulman requesting that the zoning classification of Parcel 14X2b located on the North side of Five Mile Road approximately 660 feet West of Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 14 be changed from RUFB to C-2. The secretary announced that Mr. Seymour B. Goldman, Attorney for the petitioners contacted office and requested item be adjourned to April 2, 1957 inasmuch as he had not re- ceived a copy of Zoning Ordinance No. 60 and the final plot plan of suggested use has not been completed. *Messrs. Charles Walker and Rodney Aropf, Asst. City Attorney arrived a t approximately 8:10 p.m. The petitioners nor their representative was present. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unani- mously carried, it was #3-53-57 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-207 by Albert B. and Della S. Shulman requesting a change of m ning in the Southeast 1/4. of Section 1). from RUFB to C-2 be tabled until April 2, 1957 as requested by their attorney, Seymour B. Goldman. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. 1613, rTh The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No. Z-115 by Harold A. Ford, President, The Livonia Methodist Church and The Methodist Union of Greater Detroit asking that the zoning classification of Lot ?97, Supervisor's Livonia Plat No. 13 located on the West side of Loveland Avenue approximately 120 feet South of Seven Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 10 be changed from R-1-B to P-1. lir. Harold A. Ford was present. Mr. Ford stated that they are now constructing a church at a different location where they will have room and that for that reason he requested that Petition No. Z-115 be withdrawn. No one was present objecting to Petition No. Z-115 as presented. Upon a motion duly made by lair. Steinhoff, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously carried, it was #3-54-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on August 16, 1955 on Petition No. Z-115 as submitted by Harold A. Ford, President, The Livonia Methodist Church and the Methodist Union of Greater Detroit for a change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 10 from R-1-B to P-1, the City Planning Coi► fission does hereby grant petitioner's verbal request that petition be withdrawn and therefore recommends to the City Council that Petition No. Z-115 be withdrawn, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of July 28, 1955 and notice of which hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumers rower Compa ny , City Departments ' and petitioner as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary read letters dated February 27, 1957 from Jacob Menuck, President, Paris Home Builders and dated March 2, 1957 from Mr. and Mrs. William Biegert requesting that Petition No. Z-162 by Gladys H. and William Biegert, et al, requesting that the zoning classification of portion of Parcel 24BB located on the North side of Schoolcraft goad approximately 1,300 feet East of Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24 be changed from RUFB to R-1 A. The petitioners nor a representative were preselt. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously carried, it was #3-55-57 RESOLVER).that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on May 15, 1956 on Petition No. Z-162 as submitted by Gladys H. and William Biegert, et al for change of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24 from RUFB to R-1-A, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant request in letters dated February 27, 1957 from Jacob Menuck, President, Paris Home Builders, Inc. and dated March 2, 1957 from Mr. and Mrs. William Biegert that petition be withdrawn and therefore recommends to the City Council that Petition No. Z-162 be withdrawn, a nd 014 FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of April 19, 1956 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumers Power Company, City Departments and petitioners as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary read letter dated February 28, 1957 from Donald C. Deremo, Attorney, requesting that Petition No. Z-188 by John and Martha Veenstra requesting that the zoning classification of portion of Parcels 13G3b2 to 13G3b9 and 13G3a,G3b1 located on the East side of Cavour Avenue approximately 160 feet North of Five Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13 be changed from RUFB to R-3. The petitioner nor a representative was present. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Steinhoff, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously carried, it was #3-56-57 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-i88 by John and Martha Veenstra requesting a change of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13 from RUFB to R-3 be tabled until April 16, 1957 as requested by Donald C. Deremo, Attorney for the petitioners. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-141 by C. Umhau Wolf, (St. 'T'imothp Lutheran Church) requesting permission to erect the first unit of a church chapel and Sunday School building of brick veneer on Parcel 33AA located on the Northeast corner of Wayne and Joy Roads in the South- west 1/4 of Section 33. The secretary read letters dated February 4, 1957 and February 23, 1957 from C. Umhau Wolf, Pastor; dated January il, 1957 from Oscar M. Gunderson, Planning Engineer, Wayne County Board of Road Commissioners; dated February 25, 1957 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Department and petition signed by four adjacent property owners not opposed to petition. Messrs. Leonard Jacobs, Toledo, Ohio; Richard Brown, T'oleAo, Ohio; Rev. E. H. Schalkhauser, 13537 Penrod, Detroit 23, and Harry F. Shirley, )j1) 7 Normandy, Royal Oak, were present. Mr. Shirley stated that the plans of the proposed church have been placed in the hands of the Fire Department. Lieutenant Perry stated they examined plans and returned same to petitioner. Mr. Shirley stated that all recommendations by the Fire Department will be met except forthe requested additional fire hydrant be installed on their property. There is an existing fire hydrant across the street and wondered the necessity of bringing one on the other side of the road.. Lieutenant Perry stated that the Fire Department has access on all four sides of the building as shown in plans and that it is satisfactory as it sets on the site. The one means of iptting on to Wayne Road seems favoraole but that they did talk about the traffic problem. The requested fire hydrant is asked for on purpose because if Fire Department were to pull their equipment up to the high land and then pull out on highway it would have to go down through traffic in order to hook up to the hydrant. It is their thought to get fire hydrant on private property in order to take care of private enterprise. bit CSS Mr. Miller referred to the East-West street and wondered Whether there shouldn't be access to the parking lot. Mr. Shirley stated that that street doesn't exist and that when it is opened they anticipate access. When it is openedthgy will provide access. Mr. Harsha suggested for the files that the commission have a eopy of the plot plan. Mr. Rayrlond G. Grimm, 8924 Wayne Road informed ccmmissioners that when the County came through and surveyed for continuation of Joy Road they intended to follow the contour of the bank rather than the township line.. Suggested petitioner check with County to see what their intent is today. Mr. Steinhoff stated he noticed from the plot plan that petitioners intend to use a septic tank. Requested letter from Health Department regarding the percula- tion test. Mr. Shirley stated this phase is out of his hands and that it is up to the plumber. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously carried, it was #3-57-57 RESOLV Ia) that, because petition is in the range of the existing area and proposed bui .ding will be an asset in that particular area and pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-lit by C. Umhau Wolf (St Timothy Lutheran Church) requesting permission to erect the first unit of a church chapel a nd Sunday School building of brick veneer on Parcel 33AA located on the Northeast corner of Wayne and Joy Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 33 subject to letter dated February 25, 1957 from Calvin Roberts, Chief Livonia Fire Department, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-36 by Michael J. Chaffery requesting permission to erect a gasoline service station on Parcels 01FF1 and 01FF2GG located on the luorthwest corner of Seven Mile Road and Angling Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 1.. Messrs.. Michael J. Chaffery and Perry C. Trumbull, 3692 Ellwood, Berkley, were present. The secretary read recommendation dated March 4, 1957 from Aibe Munson, Planning Consultant. Mr. 'Trumbull stated he is title holder of one of the parcels (125' depth and 651 deep when Seven Mile Road is widen to its full width.) Mr. Richard Lefeibre, 19111 Angling Road stated if an alley is provided for and a 10' greenbelt plus width of Seven Mile Road there isnot enough room for the gas station. Did not think one station on every corner is good and objectedfor these reasons. William h. Robinson relinquished the Chair to H. Paul Harsha, Vice-Chairman at approximately 8:45 p.m. 016 Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson and seconded by Mr. Miller, it was RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on January ts, 1957 the City Planning Commission does hereby deny Petition M-36 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission to erert a -gasoline service station on Parcels 01FF1 and 01FF2GG located on the iJorthwest corner of Seven Mile Road and Angling Road in the Southeast 1/). of Section 1 inasmuch as the Commission does not believe the population justifies an additional station. Mr. Greene asked if reason given is a legal reason for denying petition. Mr. Robinson stated it is up to the discretion of the commission to approve petition. A roll call vote on resolution made by Messrs. Robinson and Miller resulted in the following: AYES: Walker, Robinson and Miller NAYS: Greene, Steinhoff and Harsha Mr. Harsha stated that the question is whether or not the depth of the property may or may not enter into the picture. Whether or not a gas station can be built on this property and have sufficient room. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Robinson and seconded by Mr. Greene, it was #3-58-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held January b, 1957 the City Planning Commission does hereby deny Petition M-36 by Michael J. Caffery requesting permission to erect a-gasoline service station on Parcels 01FEl and UYFF2GG located on the Northwest corner of Seven Mile Road and Angling Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 1 inasmuch as the Commission feels an alley should be required and if it;ere required there would not be enough room for the proposed gasoline service station, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property miners within 5UO feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Greene, Walker, Harsha, Robinson and Miller NAYS: Steinhoff Mr. Cafferty stated that- Mr. Trumbull owns one of the parcels that station is to be built on and that he has purchased property and paid taxes on it all this time. The proposed width of Seven Mile Road would leave only 65' depth. If the consultant's suggestion is accepted Mr. Trumbull cannot build anything on his property inasmuch as he would have only 140' left after an alley is dedicated. Mr. Harsha informed Mr. Cafferty that he has the right of appeal. Mr. N. Paul Harsha relinquished the Chair to Chairman William R. Robinson at approximately 8:53 p.m. Wifo The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the proposed Delta Livonia Park Subdivision located on the Southeast corner of Farmington and Lyndon Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 22. Messrs. Michael R. Bagdade and Martin Myers, 10119 W. Six Mile Road, Detroit, were present. Mr. Marsha, Chairman of the Plat Committee stated that the committee has examined the proposed revised plat and find two lots which are still undersized - Lots 106 (60 square feet) and 107 (7 square feet). Also one member objects to the shape of Lot 15. Wondered if petitioner has an agreement to run drainage over the unsubdivided land to the Narth. Mr. Steinhoff, Member of the Plat Committee concurred with Mr. Harsha. Stated at the last meeting hemade a suggestion regarding Lot 15 in that the two lot lines should be moved West to avoid jagged corner. Mr. Robinson asked petitioner whether he agreed with Mr. Steinhoffts suggestion. Mr. Myers stated he did. No one was present objecting to proposed subdivision as presented. Mr. Myers stated they have an agreement regarding drainage easement to the North as dell as providing easement to the South. Did not know haw it is going to run,; and that it will have to be decided by the time it is submitted to the City. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously carried, it was #3-59-57 RESOLVED that, because the proposed plat seems u- o meet the requirements pertaining to the area; it seems to be a well situated plat and pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held February 19, 1957 the City Planning Commission does hereby give approval to pre- liminary plat of Delta Livonia Park Subdivision located on the Southeast corner of Farmington and Lyndon Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 22 subject to Lots 106, 107 and 15 being made of proper size and shape, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the abutting property owners, proprietor, City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service and copies of the plat together with notice having been sent to the Building Department, Superintendent of Schools, School Board President, Fire Department, Police De- partment, Parks and Recreation Department and Members of the Plat Committee. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the request dated February 22, 1957 from Burton Warner, Warner & darner for approval of prints of the tentative plan indicating the area petitioner wishes to plat as the first unit of the Lyndon Meadows Subdivision located on the Northeast corner of Henry Ruff and Schoolcraft 'Roads with access onto Henry Huff, M ddlebelt and School- craft Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 23. The secretary read letter dated February 22, 1957 from Burton Waffler, Warner and Warner. Messrs. Burton Warner and 'led Zukosky, Oakview Homes, Inc. were present. Mr. Robinson asked whether they intended to develop only the section outlined in blue on the proposed plat. I'Ir. Warner confirmed that that is correct.. Mr. Harsha asked whether the access meets with the approval of the Fire Depart- ment. When only a portion of the plat is developed it is quite a thing. Taking just part of proposed plat is a very different thing - leaves dead end streets. Lieutenant Perry stated he had not seen proposed partial development until now. In all fairness the fire department does not like when only a portion of plat is developed but have not objected too much in other similar situations.. Mr. Harsha asked whether proposed J irst unit has been seen by anyone prior to now. Mr. Robinson stated he treated this request the :same as request forf5nal approval and that it was not forwarded to other departments. Mr. Robinson asked if there is a reason why another street couldn't be developed. Mr. Warner stated there is no physical reason why it couldn't becbne. Each dead end street has only two lots. Mr. Zukosky stated they are limited in their development because of the recommendation of Hubbell, Roth and Clark. Mr. Warner stated that the Southeast part is too low to get into drain. Mr. Zukosky assured commission that it is their intent to proceed as rapidly as possible with the entire plat. Mr. Robinson asked when the rest of the plat would be developed. Mr. Zukosky stated that the City of Livonia is holding them up because of the drain. Mr. Greene asked if they would be willing to open up the other street into Schoolcraft. Mr. Warner stated if that is the commission's wish they will be willing to open Melvin Avenue extending into Schoolcraft Road. No one was present objecting to proposed first unit of subdivision. Upon a motion duly made by Nr. Greene, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously carried, it was #3-60-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission does hereby approve prints of the tentative plan indicating the area petitioner wishes to plat as the first unit of the Lyndon Meadows Sub- division located on the Northeast corner of Henry Rufi Road and Schoolcraft Road with access onto Henry Ruff, Middlebelt,, and Schoolcraft Roads in the Southeast 1/L of Section 23 subject to the opening up of Melvin Avenue to Schoolcraf t Road in order to provide a second ingress and egress to the proposed subdivision and that petitioner be permitted t o develop lots abutting this street. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The Chairman called a recess at approximately 9:16 p.m. 16pp 1110 C'" The Chairman called the public hearing to order at approximately 9:30 p.m. with *all present a s named at the beginning and course of meeting except Mr. Robert L. Greene who was excused at approximately 9:16 p.m. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously carried, it .was #3-61-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission depart from regular order of business in order to hear Item No. 10 on the agenda. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No. Z-212 as initiated by the, City Planning Commission on its own motion on the question whether or not Article 4.00 of Ordinance No. 60 as amended should be further amended by adding thereto Section 4.116 (Gasoline and Oil Service Stations). Mr. 1 ropf stated in answer to commission's question whether or not Section 4.46 (c) pertaining to the 100' from church or school is from the lot line or the building line, it seems to bear out that it would be the intent to refer to the lot line and not the building line. Thought the amendment could be worded to expressly spell out lot line so that there would be no doubt. In answer to commission's question whether the city can legally limit only two stations per corner or depending on the width of the road, only one station (Section 4.46-c) the Home Rule Statute gives the City Council the power to so regulate, restrict and limit the number and location of gas stations. On the particular question as to whether or not the City can limit two stations per corner or depending on the width of the road, only one station, that is going to require further research. There is a possibility that if the amendment is passed there could be the objection that the City is favoring one group over the other. Amendment might create a race to see who could get in likely corners first. Messrs. hurt Frederich, Dearborn; Ray Leffler, Van Dyke, Detroit, and Herbert Warner, were present representing the dealers in Livonia. Mr. Leffler stated the City of Livonia has an approximate population of 50,000 and there are 56 stations in Livonia Which gives an average of 890 residents per station. On a national basis there are at the present time 200,000 stations and of these approximately 1/3 change hands every year. Figures from the oil industries indicate that it takes approximately 1,000 residents per station for that station to make a go of it. Gas stations do have a certain amount of odor, noise, fumes, fire and explosive hazards and traffic problems. Where station adjoins residential areas, they do tend to reduce the value of the homes.. If there are to be 1,000 residents per station there is the maximum good relations but if there are more than that there is going to be the position where the dealers cannot survive. In order to use the station for another pur- pose, it must be completely rebuilt. The spacing of stations has been approved by the Supreme Court of New Jersey, Florida and Wisconsin. Not asking any definite limitation of stations, just intelligent .spacing. The average block is 300' and with the proposed amendment, there could be a station on every corner. 'Thought the National Society of Planning Officials has gone on record that something should be done. Twenty-five communities in Southeast Michigan have an ordinance of this type. Thought 300' between stations not sufficient distance. 1442° RJ�F Mr. Fredrich submitted for commission's inspection a sample ordinance regulating and restricting the locations of gasoline service stations. Stated a similar ordinance exists in Wayne, Inkster, Wyandotte, Ecorse, Lincoln Park, Riverview, Berkley, Madison Heights etc. Mrs. Lucille Garrett, 15020 Lenore, Detroit, stated through she could sympathize with Mr. Leffler he is showing prejudice - first come, first served attitude. Same could work for dry cleaning establishments, grocery stores etc. The grocery stores could get a group together and keep other grocery stores out - that is what is being suggested. Referred to Subsection (c) and-chat there are very few commercial districts in Livonia that do not back up to residential districts by 150' other than main roads. A main road can support more than one gas station even though they are located across the street. An ordinance of this type limits the right to use property to its best ability. Mr. Howard Middlewood, Building Inspector questioned wvrding of subsections (a) and (e) in that in (a) pumps cold not even be located in the front yard and in (e) if a man has a long and narrow piece of property what is definition of side street. Messrs. Frederick Lichtman, Legal Department, Speedway Petroleum Corporation, 301 S. Fort Street, Detroit 17 and Gerald Tohlen, 8856 Hillcrest were present representing the Michigan Petroleum Industries. Mr. Tohlen referredto comment regarding safety factor of the service stations. Figures in Detroit (a large city) prove that in the past year there were no accidents of a serious nature on the drive ways or aprons of service stations. referredto fire hazards of a gas station in tha t insurance rates are lower than schools which prove that stations are safe. With proposed amendment it will be economically impossible for the service companies to build stations. When commission starts ruling out this type of bushess it is affecting his pocket as atax payer. Referred to Subsection (d) and questioned the term "unit" and what is meant by it. At the present time 51,200 per year per station is a lot of money to take out of the city. Mr. Lichtman stated that as far as the zoning and planning is concerned, the oil industry has done a good job in bringing an attractive and workable service station. It is within the prorogative of the commission to go ahead with the proposed amendment. Asked commission not to consider arguments concerning the economy of gas stations but concern itself with the proper functions of the board. Thought the ordinance needed further study both by the board and the people in favor and opposed to the amendment. Mr. 'Tohlen referred to first paragraph of Section 4.46 in that an existing station could not be modernized without complying with the rest of the ordinance which would make it impossible.. Mr. Miller asked Mr. Tohlen if he had figures to substantiate what one station will support. Mr. Tohlen stated they couldn't control the buying habits of the public. Have to take into consideration the transient trade also. Mr. Walker asked whether 15,000 square feet would be prohibitive to a super station. Mr. Tohlen stated under their present lay out there is a working frontage of 90'. 16 - rTh Mr. Lichtman stated today a station is not much less than that. While that, part of the ordinance is not objectional now it may in some cases work a hazard. The effect of the amendment is to eventually over the years just cancel stations completely out of this city except for people who will invest considerable amount of money. Mr. Harsha stated as amendment is presently worded it takes away the commission's sa y except to the extent of the a mendment. Asked whether commission still has the privilege of saying where stations will be erected. Mr. Kropf stated he thought so. Mr. Harsha disagreed with Mr. Kropf and stated that proposed amendment has left commission completely out of the picture. Commission has to retain control. Mr. Robinson stated in his opinion commission is not ready to act on this now as there are many imperfections. Suggested that this matter be tabled to the next study meeting to give commission an opportunity to go over item and make corrections. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Steinhoff, seconded by Mr. Harsha and unanimously carried, it was #3-62-57 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-2L2 as initiated by the City Planning Commission on its own motion on the question whether or not Article 4.UO of Ordinance No. 60, as amended should be further anended by adding Section 4.46 (Gasoline and Oil Service Stations) be tabled for further study and consideration. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Jaiker, seconded by Mr. Miller and unanimously carried, it was #3-63- 7 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission depart from regular order of business in order to hear item concerning Sewage Treatment Plant in Section 5. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. The secretary read letter dated February 27, 1957 from Donald M. Pierce, Chief, Section of Sewerage and Sewage Treatment, Division of Engineering, Michigan Department of Health. Messrs. W. L. Boening, President, Sanitation Service Company, 19424 W. Eight Mile Road, Detroit 19; Howard Kieft, hieft Engineering, Clarkston, Michigan, T. Crantz, 17567 Monica, Detroit and Sam Stock, Michigan Department of Health. Mr. Boening stated he constructs plants all over the world and has never seen flies or smelt odor near plant. Referred to school in Ecorse Township (located West of Ole Dix Highway and East of Telegraph and South of Brice) in that there is no weed growth there. Mr. Harsha asked if there is water in the ditch the year round. Mr. Boening stated there is 96% effluent. 122 Mr. Robinson asked the flow of water. Mr. Kranz stated 6,000 gal. a minute as L checked out in the summer. Mr. Stock stated he had not seen it dry anytime in the past year or two. Mr. Walker asked whether system requires haul-away service. Mr. Boening stated they advocate it once a year and do not advise a drying bed. Mr. Robinson asked whether there will be drying beds within Livonia. Mr. Boening stated he wouldn't advise it. Mr. Miller suggested item be discussed further at the study meeting and forward letter to these gentlemen and any other interested people and answer Mr. Pierce's specific questions at that time. Mr. Robinson suggested commission answer questions in letter from Mr. Pierce but should not commit itself. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Miller, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously carried, it was #3-64-57 RESOLVED that, question of proposed Sewage Treatment Pla nt in Section 5 be tabled until next study meeting at which time Commission will answer all pertinent questions and direct letters to Mr. Howard Kieft, theft Engineering, Clarkston, Michigan; Mr. T. I. Crantz, 17567 Monica, Detroit, Michigan and Mr. Donald M. Pierce, Chief, Section of Sewerage and Sewage Treatment, Division of Engineering, Michigan Department of Health and anyone else that is interested. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Hiller, seconded by Mr. Steinhoff and unanimously carried, it was #3-65-57 RESOLVED that, Petitions No. Z-211 and Z-213 as initiated by the City Planning Commission on its cwn motion on the questions whether or not Article 11.00 of Ordinance No. 60 as amended should be further amended by adding thereto Section 11.18 (Used Car Lots) and Section 12.02 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No. 60 and Article 12.00 of said Ordinance should be amended by adding thereto Sections 12.03, 12.01 , 12.05 and 12.06 (CC District Regulations) be tabled until March 19, 1957. The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted. rm On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, this Public Hearing was duly a djourned at approximately 10:40 p.m., March 5, 1957. / ' ,74- . 7114--ak— no.ert L. Miller, Secretary ATTESTED: vdillia m R. Robinson, Chairman H. Pact 1_ a, Vice-Chairman