HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1957-12-10 MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE 78TH SPECIAL MEETING OF
THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On December 10, 1957 the above meeting was held by the City Planning Commission
of the City of Livonia at the City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia,
Michigan. Chairman William R. Robinson called the Public Hearing to order at
approximately 8:07 p.m.
Members present: William Robinson Wilfred Okerstrom Fred A. Lotz
H. Paul Harsha Leonard Kane Charles Walker
Robert L. Greene
Members absent: *Dennis Anderson
**Robert Angevine
Lieutenant Bob Perry, Livonia Fire Department and Charles Pinto, Asst. City
Attorney were present together with approximately twenty interested persons.
The secretary announced that the first item on the agenda was Petition No.
V-24 by Elm Civic Association asking that all alleys for public utilities
running North-South between Deering Avenue and Inkster Road and between
Grantland Avenue and Plymouth Road in the Schanhite's Marquette Manor Sub-
division in the East 1/2 of the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25 be vacated. The
secretary read letters dated August 9, 1957 from Douglas E. McEvoy and dated
December 4, 1957 from Jack E. Menig, Special Agent, Real Estate and Rights of
Way Department, The Detroit Edison Company.
**Mr. Robert L. Angevine arrived at approximately 8:09 p.m.
Mr. Greene asked answer to Mr. Albe Munson's comments in recommendation dated
November 29, 1957 regarding garage access since the majority of the lots are
only 401 wide. An unidentified man stated that there are no garages opening
towards the alley and that all are from Inkster Road.
Mr. Harsha asked if all property owners are in agreement with petition.
Mr. Clarence Rapp, 12191 Inkster Road stated that he has heard many expressions
in favor of petition and nothing against petition.
Mr. Douglas McEvoy, President, Elm Civic Associatiop, 12121 Cardwell stated he
has talked to no one who wasnot in favor of petition.
Mr. Harsha stated even one property owner could tie this up.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Angevine and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-361a-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition No. V-24 as submitted by Elm Civic Association
for the vacating of all alleys for public utilities running
North-South in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25, the City
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition No. V-24 be granted subject to easement for full
width of said alleys for public utilities and surface drainage,
and
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FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of
November 21, 1957 and notice of which hearing was sent to
The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company,
City Departments, petitioner and abutting property owners as
listed in the Proof of Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
*Mr. Dennis Anderson arrived at approximately 8:12 p.m.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No. V-25
by Milton Goldman, et al asking that alley for public utilities located in
the E. G. Settle Realty Company's Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision and situated
between Fremont and Hugh Avenues South of Dover Avenue in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 35 be vacated. The secretary read letters dated October 21, 1957 from
Marie W. Clark, City Clerk and dated December 4, 1957 from Jack E. Menig,
Special Agent, Real Estate and Rights of Way Department, The Detroit Edison
Company.
Mr. Harsha asked whether petition pertained to North-South alleys only or did
it include East-West alleys also. Mrs. Milton Goldman, 8874 Hugh stated
petition includes only the North-South alleys.
Mr. Greene questioned access to garages. Mrs. Goldman stated that there are
no garages leading from the alley.
No one was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to
petition as presented.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Lotz and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-362-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition No. V-25 as submitted by Milton F. Goldman, et al ,
for the vacating of the North-South alley located in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 35, the City Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition No.
V-25 be granted subject to easement for the full width of
said alley for public utilities and surface drainage, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of
November 21, 1957 and notice of which hearing was sent to
The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company
City Departments, petitioners and abutting property owners
as listed in the Proof of Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
V-26 by Robert W. Day, et al asking that the alley for public utilities
located in the E. G. Settle Realty Company's Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision
located between Dover Avenue and vacated Cathedral Avenue and between Melvin
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and Louise Avenues in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 35 be vacated. The
secretary announced that similar letter as read is on file from Jack E. Menig
Special Agent, Real Estate and Rights of Way Department, The Detroit Edison
Company.
The petitioner nor a representative was present.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Angevine and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-363-57 RESOLVED that, Petition No. V-26 by Robert W. Day, et al
asking that the alley for public utilities located in the
E. G. Settle Realty Company's Bonaparte Gardens Subdivision
and situated betweezDover Avenue and vacated Cathedral
Avenue and between Melvin and Louise Avenues in the South-
east 1/4 of Section 35 be vacated, be taken under advisement.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-245 by David Lewis asking for a change of zoning classification on Outlot B
Pearl Wilson Subdivision; Outlots C and D, Pearl Wilson Subdivision, No. 2;
Outlots E and F, Pearl Wilson Subdivision, No. 3 and Outlot G and Lot 359
Pearl Wilson Subdivision, No. 4 located on the East side of Middlebelt Road
between Hathaway and Grandon Avenues in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 36 be
changed from RUFB to R-2. Mr. David Lewis was present.
Mr. Angevine asked whether all lots face Middlebelt Road. Mr. Lewis stated
they do.
Mr. Lotz asked what petitioner proposes to build. Mr. Lewis stated zone only
allows duplexes. Problem is that land is not satisfactory for single dwellings.
Mr. Walker stated request includes four blocks. Asked whether Mr. Lewis
intends to develop all four blocks and whether that includes all his property
in area. Mr. Lewis stated "yes" to both questions.
Mr. Greene asked how many duplexes were planned. Mr. Lewis stated that he
hasn't any plans but that duplexes would have to conform to ordinance.
Mr. Lotz asked if there were other duplexes in area. Mr. Lewis stated there
are immediately across the street.
Mr. John O'Bey, 30733 Grandon, representing Grandon Woods Subdivision asked
whether a similar petition had previously been denied by Commission. Mr. Robin-
son stated he did not believe so.
Mr. O'Bey stated he believed at one time petitioner wanted apartment buildings.
Mr. Robinson stated that apartment buildings would require R-3 classification,
and that apartments could not be erected under R-2 classification.
Mr. O'Bey questioned back yards. Mr. Robinson stated petitioner will have to
conform to requirements of Zoning Ordirance.
Mr. Anderson stated under a R-2 classification petitioner could erect more
than just duplexes. Wondered about motels.
Mr. $.obinson stated a motel would have to have the approval of the City
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Planning Commission.
Mr. Pinto stated that he did not believe R-2 classification would include
motel.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Angevine, seconded by Mr. Kane and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-364-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition No. Z-245 as submitted by David Lewis for a
change of zoning in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 36 from
RUFB to R-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition No. Z-245
be granted, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of
November 21, 1957 and notice of which hearing was sent to
The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company
The Consumer Power Company, City D epartments, petitioner and
Michigan Bell Telephone Company.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No. ,
Z-243 by Arthur E. Esper and Eva Esper asking that the zoning classification
on the South 110' of the West 40' of Lot 88, the East 28' of Lot 88 and the
West 72' of Lot 89, Dutch Mill Gardens Subdivision located on theSouth side
of Five Mile Road approximately 80 feet East of Lynns Avenue in the North 1/2
of Section 24 and known as 28225 Five Mile Road be changed from RUFB to P.
Mr. Arthur Esper was present.
Mr. Okerstrom asked how far back petitioner will be from adjoining neighbor
on the South end of parking strip. Mr. Esper stated building is 100' and the
property is 210' - 110' from adjoining property.
Mr. Robinson asked for plot plan. Mr. Esper stated he didn't have one
available and that property is presently zoned C-2 for 100' and RUFB to the
rear. Have sufficient parking available now but when Five Mile Road is
widened they will need additional area.
Mr. Okerstrom asked how close petitioner is to North line of adjoining property.
Mr. Esper stated their property abuts. Will provide greenbelt as required.
Mr. Robinson suggested item be taken under advisement in order to give
Commission opportunity to secure plot plan from petitioner.
No one else was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to
petition as presented.
Mr. Kane asked how many feet is left if petitioner owns only 72' of Lot 89.
It was established that the remaining 20' belongs to the same person that owns
Lot 90.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, seconded by Mr. Greene and
unanimously carried, it was
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#12-365-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition No. Z-243 as submitted by Arthur B. Esper and
Eva Esper for a change of zoning in the North 1/2 of Section
24 from RUFB to P, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition No. Z-243 be
granted subject to sufficient greenbelt on the South boundary
of property line as provided for in Zoning Ordinance No. 60,
and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of
November 21, 1957 and notice of which hearing was sent to
The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company,
City Departments and petitioners as listed in the Proof of
Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-241 by Weld S. Maybee, Jr. and Raymond F. Garrett asking for a change of
zoning classification on Parcel 2918 located on the Southwest corner of Levan
and Schoolcraft Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 29 be changed from M-2
and RUFB to C-2. The secretary read letters dated October 7, 1957 from
Marie W. Clark, City Clerk; dated November 26, 1957 from Calvin Roberts, Chief
Livonia Fire Department; dated December 5, 1957 from William W. and Selena V.
Crawford and dated December 6, 1957 from Anna Sivey. Mr. Donald Deremo,
Attorney, 33020 Five Mile Road was present.
Mr. Angevine asked how much of area is to be considered. Mr. Deremo stated
there is 367' on Schoolcraft Road and 337' on Levan Road. Fifty foot square
is zoned M-2. Propose to use site for bowling alley purposes. Parcel is on
a main intersection and adjoins M-2 area. Plan to have 501 set back on both
sides. Type of property that is not desirable for residential site.
Mr. Angevine asked what exists West of area on Schoolcraft Road. Mr. Deremo
stated that there are a few residential homes here and there.
The secretary read recommendation dated N vember 29, 1957 from Albe Munson,
Planning Consultant.
Mr. Clarence Charest, Attorney, 33636 Five Mile Road, representing land owners
directly to the West of property on South side of Schoolcraft Road approxi-
mately 500 feet West of parcel in question was present. Understood that
Business and Industrial Committee is going to recommend that area all be
rezoned from RUFB to M-1 between Schoolcraft and Plymouth Roads. Clients in
favor of petition because they do not feel this is proper residential property
at this time.
Mr. Deremo stated he understands that the Police Officers Association purchased
property on the Southeast corner of intersection in question for youth center.
Mr. Pinto informed Commission that he has also heard from various members of
the Police Officers Association that they have purchased property at Levan and
Schoolcraft Roads.
Mr. Robinson asked Messrs. Walker and Angevine how close the Business and
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Industrial Committee is going to recommend that industrial classification come t7.1
to Schoolcraft Road. CD
Mr. Walker stated he hasn't had opportunity to observe land for the entire
length of City but that for the mile width from Middlebelt and Merriman Roads
the feeling is that industrial area should be no closer to Schoolcraft Road
than 600'. The only thing in this area that would be considered is the set
back. Couldn't see any objection to request if there is a binding agreement
regarding set back.
Mr. Charest questioned action on Koepplinger property (Petition No. Z-197)
Mr. Walker stated Koepplinger property is 1/4 mile West of Stark Road and the
first 300' is zoned P-1.
Mr. Deremo stated letters of objectQn are from residents that have homes in
M-2 classification and that probably wgn't be there too long.
Mr. Harsha informed Commission that prior to Zoning Ordinance No. 60 area was
industrial up to Schoolcraft Road.
Mr. Robinson suggested item be taken under advisement. Asked set back of
nearest home. Mr. Deremo stated he did not know.
Mrs. Raymond Garrett, 15020 Lenore, Detroit stated set back of nearest home
is 75? to 80'.
Mr. Robinson asked whether petitioner would be willing to meet that set back.
Mrs. Garrett submitted sketch of proposed building and stated set back will
be 50' on each side.
The Chairman informed those present that item would be taken under advisement
and that a decision would be made at a later date.
The secretary announced that the next item onthe agenda was Petition No.
Z-247 as initiated by the City Planning Commission on its own motion on the
question whether or not to amend Section 10.02 of Article 10.00, Section 11.02
of Article 11.00 and Section 14.02 of Article 14.00 of Zoning Ordinance No.
60. The secretary read portions of Ordinance to be changed.
Mr. Harsha suggested correction in the language of Subsection k, Section 11.02
"....and it is established that sixty percent of the property owners do not
object within five hundred feet distance from any part of the lot area
involved...." Stated this wasnot the intent at the time Ordinance was prepared.
Mr. Lotz thought 35 square feet large enough. Mr. Anderson agreed.
Mr. Walker questioned present sale of Christmas Trees in City. Mr. Pinto
informed Commission that the Bureau of Inspection, Police Department and Fire
Department are presently allowing sale of Christmas Trees in City provided
it meets with their approval and an affidavit signed that applicant will
abide by their rules and regulations. Sale of Christmas Trees in City has
always caused trouble in that according to present Ordinance approval of the
Commission is required. Most of the time it is too late to secure such
approval and there is no control over Christmas Trees at all. Business
establishments that already have received approval of the Commission for open
air sales and who also sell Christmas Trees do not have to file additional
request.
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No one was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to
petition as presented.
Mr. Greene stated that in amending Ordinance to allow 70 squ are foot signs
without approval of Commission might satisfy some of the applicants who have
in the past requested larger signs. This might take some of the load off
of Commission.
Mr. Pinto stated that the 70 square foot figure was determined as a happy
medium by Mr. Donald Wilson, Chief Inspector.
Mr. Harsha thought proposed Sign Ordinance would relieve Commission or some
of the things it is thinking of. Mr. Pinto stated that there is a sign
ordinance prepared. Proposed Sign Ordinance does m t deal with size of a sign
but with its construction, lighting, maintenance, etc. This would be only a
regulatory Ordinance. Suggested Commission might wish to take that portion of
proposed ordinance under advisement and request representative of the Bureau of
Inspection to meet with Commission to justify their recommendation of 70
square feet.
Mr. Walker stated with present procedure regarding sale of Christmas Trees
did not think Commission's expediency would have any bearing on it.
Mr. Lotz stated according to attorney people are coming in with Christmas
Trees and that Bureau of Inspection, Police Department and Fire Department have
issued permits pending approval of this one section. Mr. Pinto informed
Commission that the City Council has only one more meeting scheduled before
the holidays and that there wouldn't be time to finalize Ordinance regardless
of Commission's action. Stated his only concern is that City complies
with Law.
The Chair informed those present that item would be taken under advisement
and that a decision would be made at a later date.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition No.
Z-244 by Samuel A. Miller asking that the zoning classification of a portion
of Parcel 32S2a located on the Southeast corner of Plymouth and Ann Arbor
Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 32 be changed from RUFB to C-2. The
secretary read recommendation dated November 29, 1957 from Albe Munson, Plan-
ning Consultant. Messrs. Samuel A. Miller and Joseph Beck, Attorney, 3625
Cadillac Tower, Detroit were present.
Mr. Okerstrom asked whether petitioner has considered Parkdale. Mr. Beck
stated they have given continuation of Parkdale proper consideration. Access
can be obtained to Parkdale from three different directions and that that seems
to take care of Parkdale requirements. From Raleigh Avenue West there is a
minimum of residential construction.
Mr. Walker questioned possibility of cul-de-sac at the Westerly end of Park-
dale. Mr. Pinto stated that since the land is platted it will be up tot he
City to provide cul-de-sac and that no doubt the cost will be a special
assessment.
Mr. Greene questioned property description as contained in petition. Mr. Beck
stated island as referred to in Mr. Munson's reaDmmmendation is where Howard
Johnson Restaurant is located and as such it is separated from motel
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Mr. Robinson asked whether there would be any reason Commission should be
concerned with this problem. Mr. Pinto asked whether island is owned by
petitioner. Mr. Beck stated it is. Mr. Pinto stated there would be no harm
in leaving it provided Commission feels it will not be detrimental.
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No one was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to
petition as presented.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-366-57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Petition No. Z-244 as submitted by Samuel A. Miller for a
change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 32 from RUFB
to C-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Petition No. Z-244 be granted, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of
November 21, 1957 and notice of which hearing was sent to
The Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company,
City Departments and petitioner as listed in the Proof of
Service.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-367-57 RESOLVED that, Public Hearing be adjourned.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted and called the 78th
Special Meeting to order.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition M-87
by Samuel A. Miller requesting permission to increase authorized 50 unit
motel to permit the construction of a 100 unit two-story motel on Parcel 32S2a
located on the Southeast corner of Ann Arbor and Plymouth Roads in the North-
west 1/4 of Section 32. Messrs. Samuel A. Miller and Joseph Beck, Attorney
3625 Cadillac Tower, Detroit were present.
The secretary read letter dated December 6, 1957 from Dallas F. Hay, Police
Commissioner.
Mr. Beck stated they do not take issue with letter from Police Commissbner
and that they will move driveway as shown on sketch over to join with Howard
Johnson Restaurant's driveway.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Walker and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-367 57 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
December 3, 1957 the City Planning Commission does hereby g_
grant Petition M-87 by Samuel A. Miller requesting permission
to increase authorized 50 unit two-story motel to permit the
construction of a 100 unit two-story motel on Parcel 32S2a
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located on the Southeast corner of Ann Arbor and Plymouth
Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 32 subject to
entrance requirements as outlined in letter dated
December 6, 1957 from Dallas F. Hay, Police Commissioner
are adhered to, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City
Departments as listed in the Proof of Service and notice
d'which hearing was published in the official newspaper
The Livonian under date of November 14, 1957.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
The secretary announced that the next item on the agenda was the proposed
Rasak Subdivision, No. 2 located on the Southwest corner of SevenMile Road
and Stamford Avenue in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9. Mr. Louie Rasak
18974 Murray Hill, Detroit was present.
Mr. Robinson informed Commission that he had talked to Mr. L. E. Landes,
18311 Norwich, President of the Helman Park Civic Association about
experience they have had on whitby. Mr. Landes informed him that without
exception everyone has had trouble with septic tanks even though there is not
a home within a mile and vacant property to the rear.
Mr. Lotz concurred with information.
Mr. Kane asked what they mean by trouble with septic tanks.
Mr. Thomas, 19012 Norwich stated that there has been trouble with septic
tanks to the point that they do not function properly. Houses with basements
have to have sump pumps and some have been running in a period of one hour at
least 60% of the time. Some of the septic tahks have been pumped at least
twice in three months. Septic tanks reach the point where they will not take
water. Area is in a high water level.
Mr. Lotz stated in wet weather is when area has most trouble. There is a drain
South of Clarita where the water has come up across Clarita at the height of
18" over the road. Water came within 451 to 49' of his property.
Mr. Rasak stated that he has had a percolation test on each individual lot as
requested and that every lot except two proved good
Mr. Walker stated that he has had a septic tank for 13 years and feels that
the reason he has not had trouble is that home is on acreage. Experience has
been that where a large group of homes are platted on small lots it is fortunate
if there is no trouble.
Mr. Rasak stated he intends to put in 1,000 gallon tanks and large amount of
field tile.
Mr. Thomas informed Commission that he believes the City of Livonia has spent
as much as $10,000 to overcome water level in area.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously
carried, it was
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#12-368-57 RESOLVED that, having considered the proposed Rasak Sub-
division, No. 2 to be located in the Northeast 1/4 of
%fiction 9 in the city of Livonia, the City Planning Commission
does herein determine that such plat should not receive
tentative approval of the Planning Commission at this time
since the proprietor's proposed use of septic tanks to service
such subdivision does not provide adequate or satisfactory
sanitary drainage facilities for such subdivision and the use
of same would be likely to endanger the public health, safety
and welfare of the surrounding community and, for such reason
the Planning Commission does herein deny tentative approval of
the above named plat.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resplution adopted and called a recess
at approximately 9:55 p.m.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at approximately 10:10 p.m. with all
present as named at the beginning and course of meeting except Lieutenant
Perry who was excused.
Mr. Harsha informed Comhission of the following corrections that should be
made to minutes of meeting November 19, 1957 as presented.
Page 1862 (Member copy) - Mr. Robinson asked direct
question and received direct answer that the sign
had been erected. This fact is born out by Mr. Walker's
comments. Felt that even with permission given based on
signatures that petitioner shouldn't have erected sign
until everything had been cleared. That is why he voted
"nay".
Page 1866 (Member copy) - Sixth paragraph that should
read "Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker and
seconded by Mr. Kane, it was"
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane and seconded by Mr. Angevine, it was
#12-369-57 RESOLVED that, minutes of meeting November 19, 1957 be
approved as corrected except that for such meeting member
was not present that he abstain from voting.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Grease, Angevine, Kane, Walker, Harsha, Robinson and Lotz
NAYS: None
NOT VOTING: Anderson and Okerstrom
Mr. Robinson suggested Commission follow procedure followed by City Council and
other Commissions in that the Chairman is the last to vote on any issue.
Mr. Harsha stated that this is the proper rule of procedure and that the
Chairman doesn't even have to vote unless there is a tie vote and he wishes
to break it. Chairman should definitely have the last vote.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, seconded by Mr. Angevine and unanimously
carried, it was
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#12-370-57 RESOLVED that, upon taking the roll call vote on the question
before the members of the City Planning Commission it is
hereby determined that the Chairman of the City Planning
Commission shell be the last person called upon for his vote.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Result of the City Planning Commission election:
Chairman: William R. Robinson 6
Charles W. Walker 3
Vice-Chairman: H. Paul Harsha 9
Secretary: Robert L. Angevine 6
Fred A. Lotz 3
Election Committee: Charles J. Pinto, Asst. City Attorney
Samuel Peterson, 30952 Schoolcraft Road
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Greene and unanimously
carried, it was
#12-371-57 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission accept the report
of the Election Committee.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution adopted.
Mr. "Robinson informed Commissioners that it has been suggested by Carrol
Lock, Budget Director that some of the items not be referred to Mr. Munson,
Planning Consultant that are "cut and dry" in that Commission has experience
in how they should be handled.
There was a brief discussion as to who is to determine what items to send and
what items are noe sent. It was decided thatsuggestion would be
discussed further at a later date.
The Chair informed members that he is to meet with the Civil Service
Commission December 11, 1957 regarding the City Planner.
The folloxdng poll was conducted on whether Commission should reconsider
Petition No. Z-241 as submitted by WEd S. Maybee, Jr. and Raymond F. Garrett
asking for a change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 29.
AYES: Okerstrom, Walker, Kane, Harsha and Lotz
NAYS: Greene, Anderson, Angevine, and Robinson
Mr. Donald Deremo, Attorney stated that petition had been filed with the
city October 7, 1957 and that there is a great deal involved. Clients find
it imperative that they have answer whether it be favorable or not.
Mr. Robinson asked if petitioner agrees to set back 501 will that agreement be
binding along with property forever. Mr. Pinto stated that there is disagree-
ment on question. Gave three methods of handling situation: (1) Rezone first
501 P-1 classification; (2) In the Ordinance that the City Council passes it
be so stipulated that set back is to be 501 but that this stipulation will
not show up on the zoning map and (3) Private agreement between City of
Livonia and property owner - thought such an agreement could be attacked.
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Leaned towards suggestions as given.
Mr. Harsha pointed out Mr. Munson's comment in that this is the only inter-
section of major streets not zoned commercial on all four corners.
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Mr. Greene thought Mr. Munson had a good point in that the City of Livonia
presently has an overabundance of commercial zoning. Zoning for the gain of
private individual rather than for the City.
Mr. Deremo stated in this area there are a number of plants and it is
practical for such a business as a bowling alley. A portion of the property
is already zoned industrial.
Mr. Greene stated an industrial district has a set back built right in it where-
as a commercial district does not.
Mr. Harsha asked the amount of industrial to be changed to commercial.
Mr. Deremo stated 50' square.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Green seconded by Mr. Anderson, it was
RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
December 19, 1957 on Petition No. Z-241 as submitted by
Weld S. Maybee, Jr. a nd Raymond F. Garrett for a change of
zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 29 from M-2 and RUF
to C-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend
to the City Council that Petition No. Z-241 be denied for the
reasons as outlined in recommendation dated November 29,
1957 from Albe Munson, Planning Consultant.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Anderson, Angevine and Kane
NAYS: Okerstrom, Walker, Harsha and Lotz
NOT VOTING: Robinson
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom and seconded by Mr. Kane, it was
#12-372-57 RESOLVED that, Petition No. Z-241 as submitted by Weld S.
Maybee, Jr. and Raymond F. Garrett for a change of zoning
in the Northwest 1/4 of Sebtion 29 from RUF and M-2 to C-2
be tabled until December 17, 1957.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Okerstrom, Anderson, Angevine, Harshaand Robinson
NAYS: Kane, Walker and Lotz
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Lotz and seconded by Mr. Walker, it was
#12-373-57 RESOLVED that, statement dated December 4, 1957 from Albe
Munson, Planning Consultant be approved and forwarded to
the proper department for payment.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Greene, Okerstrom, Anderson, Angevine, Kane, Walker
Harsha, Lotz and Robinson
NAYS: None
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted this 78th Special
Meeting was duly adjourned at approximately 10:43 p.m., December 10, 1957.
Fred A. Lotz, Secretary p o t-
ATTESTED:
William R. Robinson, Chairman