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MINUTES OF THE 109TH SPECIAL
MEETING AND A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING
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CCNIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, September 1, 1959 the City Planning Commissiorof the City of Livonia
held a Public Hearing and the 109th Special Meeting at the Livonia City Hall,
33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Robert L. Angevine, Chairman called
the Public Hearing to order at approximately 8:10 p.m.
Members present: Wilford Okerstrom, William R. Robinson, Robert L. Angevine, H.
Paul Harsha, Charles Walker, Robert M. Peacock, Leonard K. Kane,
and Dennis Anderson
Members absent : Robert L. Greene
Mr. David McCullough, City Planner and Mr. William Ponder, City Attorney were present
along with approximately 20 interested persons in the audience.
Mr. McCullough announced the first item on the agenda was Petition M-165 by Canvasser
Bros. Bldg. Co., requesting permission to construct a retail garden center on the
North side of Schoolcraft between Inkster and Cardwell in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 24 (Part of Outlot B of Buckingham Village Subdivision #2). Mr. Byron
Canvasser was present for petitioner. He submitted a plot plan of the proposed
garden center.
Mr. Peacock asked asked why such a large easement had been designated. Mr. Canvasser
stated that Detroit Edison had requested the easement as it is shown on the plot
plan in order to be able to get at the utility installations.
Mr. Peacock asked if this easement would be used for traffic. Mr. Canvasser stated
it would not.
Mr. Angevine asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak.
Mr. John F. Dooley, 14338 Lyons, representing Buckingham Village Subdivision Civic
Association, stated they were not familiar with the petition, had not seen the
plans and were not acqu4inted with the requirements under the ordinance pertaining
to notifying the adjoining property owners. Mr. Dooley, further stated, that the
Civic Association had not been notified.
Mr. McCullough stated that notices were sent out to property owners within 500 ft.
of said garden center, seven days prior to the scheduled hearing. At the time the
application had been submitted the garden center was situated on the west 250 ft.
of Outlot B. It was found that after the notices were sent out that it was also
located on a portion of Outlot A which necessitated Mr. Canvasser to obtain a waiver
of notice of public hearing from seven additional property owners.
Mr. Dooley asked if it would be out of order for them to ask that this item be
tabled until they had time to examine the plans and until the waivers had been re-
ceived from the seven additional property owners.
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Mr. Robinson stated that the Planning Commission :muld not take action until the
necessary signatures were received.
Mr. Walker stated that this was only a further expansion of the existing commercial
area and that the only question he had was if there would be any outdoor sales. Mr.
Canvasser answered there would not be any outdoor sales.
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Mr. Canvasser stated he had obtained the necessary signatures but had left them
in his office. If the Planning Commission would take this under advisement until
later in the evening he would go after the signatures and perhaps action could
be taken later in the evening.
Mr. Anderson suggested that this item be taken under advisement until such time that
the signatures had been obtained. In the meantime,the members of the Buckingham
Village Subdivision Civic Association could examine the plot plan of the proposed
garden center.
Mr. Angevine asked if there was anyone else in the audience who wished to speak.
Mr. Richard Tamm, President of the Buckingham Village Civic Association, asked
if there would be outdoor sales involved. Mr. Canvasser stated the stock would be
outdoors but the sales would be made in the building. He stated further he would
be glad to explain the proposed plan and answer any questions from the members of
the civic association.
Mr. Angevine declared this item would be taken under advisement until later in the
evening.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition M-166 by Standard
Oil Company, requesting permission to erect a gasoline service station located on
the Southeast corner of Five Mile Road and Levan in the Northeast 1/4 of Section
20. Mr. Gardner and Air. Holleran were present as representativesof the Standard
Oil Company.
IL: The Chairman asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak.
Mr. Clarence Charest, 33636 Five Mile Road, objected to proposed gasoline station.
Stated he was speaking on behalf of Gilbert Rhode who was the owner of property
east of the proposed gas station. A petition for rezoning this particular piece of
property in question had been before the Commission some time ago. At that time
because there had been no Professional Services zoning, a request had been made
to change the zoning from RUFB to C-1. Mr. Charest stated that in order to procure
the C-1 zoning at that time, he had represented that it would never be used for any-
thing ether than p�rcfessioral services. This was due to the proximity of the hospital.
it was ,fosnd that City Planning 0ommission had denied this petition).
Mr. H. Rennolds, 36111 Five Mile Road, concurred with Mr. Charest.
The members of the Commission examined the plot plan to determine if there was
sufficient room for the required set back. Mr. Gardner stated that the buildinf.
could be turned about in order to comply with the 40 ft. set back.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, it was
#9- -59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, September 1, 1959 the City Planning Commission
does hereby grant Petition M-166 by Standard Oil Company
requesting permission to erect a gasoline service station
I[: on the Southeast corner of Five Mile Road and Levan in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 20, subject, however, to the
petitioner complying with the required forty foot set back,
Mr. McCullough stated he wished to call attention to the protective wall which will
be necessary on the east side of the property. Mr. Gardner stated they would
comply with this requirement. Mr. Okerstrom stated he would make it part of his
motion to approve.
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1 Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Walker, it was
#9-280-59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Healing having been held
on Tuesday, September 1, 1959, the City Planning Commission
does hereby grant Petition M-166 by Standard Oil Company
requesting permission to erect a gasoline service station
on the Southeast corner of Five Mile Road and Levan in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 20, subject, however, to the
petitioner complying to the required 40 ft. setback and
protective wall, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Kane, Walker, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom,
Robinson and Angevine
NAYS: None
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. Charest asked if theapproval of the gas station meant they were not bound by
the decision made before in relation to not allowing commercial on this property.
=1 Mr. Ponder stated there are cases where they are not binding. Mr. Charest asked if
this was going to be the position of the City of Livonia. Mr. Ponder stated this
was the legal position.
Mr. Okerstrom asked Mr. Charest if the property in the earlier petition included the
property in the present petition for the gas station. Mr. Charest stated it
included this property and also the surrounding property.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Application TA-57 by
Theodore Crantz requesting permission to remove topsoil from property located south
of Pembroke approximately 2200 ft. E. of Newburgh Road in the Southeast and Southwest
1/4 of Section 5, known as the Glenbrook Colony Subdivision. Mr. Cranta was present.
He stated there were forty acres involved in this piece of property but that only
thirty acres were involved in this application.
Mr. Walker, Chairman of the Topsoil Committee, stated they had no objection to
the removal of this topsoil but would like to know more definite where the ingress
and egress would be located.
Mr. Crantz stated that they would be on Seven Mile Road and at Haldane and Fitzgerald.
Mr. McCullough stated a letter dated August 27, 1959, had been received from the
attorneys for Mrs. Grace M. Franjac who is owner of property in question, stating that
Mrs. Franjac has not given her consent to remove the topsoil from this property.
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Mr. Crantz stated that there is a clause in the contract between Mrs. Franjac and
him which states he has permission to remove the topsoil.
The Chairman asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak.
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''i Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#9-281-59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, September 1, 1959, the City Planning Commission
does hereby grant Application TA-57 by Theodore Crantz requesting
permission to remove topsoil from proposed Glenbrook Colony
Subdivision located in the Southeast and Southwest 1/4 of Section
5, subject to the following conditions:
(a) that the applicant shall not at any time allow water to
collect on the subject property or on adjoining property and
at all times shall maintain adequate drainage;
(b) that the applicant shall not excavate below the grade of
any proposed subdivision streets;
(c) that the applicant shall at all times comply with all
traffic requirements established by the Police Department;
(d) that the applicant shall be obligated to seed all of the
land from which topsoil has been removed with some seed
acceptable to the Department of Parks & Recreation unless at
the time the applicant petitions for the release of the topsoil
bond, the Planning Commission relieves the petitioner of this
obligation, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, that a performance bond be fixed on the
above application for approximately 30 acres more or less at
$500.00 per acre; that the ingress and egress be located
1[40 at Seven Mile and Maureen Road and also at Haldane and
Fitzgerald; and it is recommended that the Bureau of Inspection
issue a permit to this effect, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to the
property owners within 500 ft., petitioner, City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service and recommendations having
been obtained from the Department of Public Works under date
of September 1, 1959 and from the Police Department under
date of September 1, 1959.
Mr. Anderson questioned whether action can be taken on application before a release
is obtained from the owner of the property in question. Mr. Crantz stated it
was a condition of the sale of the property on land contract that he has permission
to remove the topsoil. Mr. Ponder stated this is a private contract and the City
would not be involved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Kane, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom, Robinson
and Angevine
NAYS: None
1110 The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#9-282-59 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn
the Public Hearing at approximately 8:55 p.m. on Tuesday,
September 1, 1959.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in t he following:
AYES: Peacock, Kane, Walker, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom, Robinson
and Angevine
NAYS: None
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. Angevine called the 109th Special Meeting to order with all those present
now who were present at the time the public hearing was adjourned.
Mr. McCullough stated the next item on the agenda was Petition M-161 by the Clark
Oil Company requesting permission to construct a gasoline service station on the
Northwest corner of Plymouth Road and Merriman in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 27.
Public Hearing held on August 18, 1959; item taken under advisement. Study meeting
August 25, 1959. Mr. LaBodie was present for petitioner.
Mr.McCullough stated that he had received a communication stating that property
owners near the Clark Oil CompanyEs gas station located on Seven Mile Road and
Inkster, which the Planning Commission approved just recently, had complained of
the lights. Mr. LaBodie stated that to date that gas station had not been opened
up for business.
Mr. Peacock asked Mr. LaBodie if his company would be agreeable to erect the
IL: protective wall in line with the one erected by the Daly Drive-In Restaurant in order
to keep tIEm in line with each other. Mr. LaBodie stated they would agree to this.
Mr. Walker stated he did not concur with Mr. Peacock because he felt this would
reduce the commercial area.
Mr. Okerstrom felt wall should go on the property line. Mr. Walker stated that
Mr. Peacock has asked that the wall be in line with the present one erected by
Daly9s Drive-In through the commercial zone. I can not agree with this.
Mr. Anderson stated that a masonry wall is not unmovable; if someone wanted to
build upon the remainder of the commercial area, this wall would not deter them.
Mr. Peacock stated he merely proposed to have these two walls in a straight line.
He realized that this wall would be going through commercial zoning but felt that
since there was a residence on the remaining property it would protect them.
Mr. Walker stated he would have to differ with Mr. Peacock. The residents would
probably object to the wall being erected between them and the gas station because
the land is more valuable than the house.
Mr. LaBodie etated,if it was agreeable to the Planning Commission, his company
would submit a letter agreeing that if the Planning Commission decides to realign
the zoning boundaries on Plymouth and Merriman Roads within the next two years
to residential behind their property, they will construct a masonry wall to conform
IC: with the City of Livonia code.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, it was
#9- -59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, August 18, 1959, the City Planning Commission does
hereby grant Petition M-161 by the Clark Oil & Refining Company
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on the Northwest corner of Plymouth Road and Merriman in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 27, subject, however, to the Planning
Commission receiving a letter from the petitioner stating they
are agreeable to establish and erect a protective wall in
accordance with the City ordinance, if requested by the Planning
Commission after a study has been made of the area,
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker, Okerstrom and Angevine
NAYS: Kane, Marsha, Anderson and Robinson
The Chairman declared the motion was not carried therefore resolution is not adopted.
Mr. Kane stated his reason for voting Nay was because no time limit was given as
to how long before the wall would be erected.
Mr. Walker asked Mr. Peacock to rephrase the motion to state a time limit.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, it was
#9-283-59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, August 18, 1959 the City Planning Commission does
hereby grant Petition M-161 by the Clark Oil Refining Company
requesting permission to construct a gasoline service station on
the Northwest corner of Plymouth Road and Merriman in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 27, subject, however, to petitioner
forwarding a letter to the Planning Commission stating they
are agreeable after a study is made by the Commission, to
erect a brick wall in accordance with the ordinance; and that
this letter be in effect for a period of two years after which
if nothing has been done, the letter will be null and void,
and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foxgoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Kane, Walker, Okerstrom and Angevine
NAYS: Marsha, Anderson and Robinson
IryThe Chairman declared the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough annotr.:ced the next item on the agenda wet- Petition M-162 by Citrin
Oil Company, requesting permission to erect a gasoline station on the North side
of Plymouth Road between Camden and Haller in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 25. Public
Hearing held on August 18, 1959; item taken under advisement. Study meeting August
25, 1959.
Mr. Citrin, Vice-President of the Citrin Oil Company and Mr. Larry Pizer, attorney
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were present and submitted a plot and area plan of the proposed gas station.
Mr. Anderson asked if this gas station was to be erected where the pottery business
was presently located. Mr. Citrin stated it was. It would remove the building and
business.
Mr. Harsha questioned the required 409 set back. It was determined there was
sufficient room for the set back.
Mr. Kane asked if any recommendation had been received from the Fire Department
because of the proximity of the convalescent home to the proposed gas station. Mr.
McCullough stated no recommendation had been received from this department.
Mr. Peacock asked if there was to be an entrance on Camden. Mr. Citrin answered
there would be one entrance on Camden.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. H--nrsha, it was
#9- -59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, August 18, 1959, the City Planning Commission
does hereby grant Petition M-162 by Citrin Oil Company re-
questing permission to erect a gasoline station on the North
side of Plymouth Road between Camden and Haller in the
li: Southwest 1/4 of Section 25, subject, however, to the City
Planning Commission receiving approval from the Fire Depart-
ment due to the proximity of the convalescent home to the
proposed gas station, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolutinn resulted in the following:
AYES: Kane, Harsha and Angevine
NAYS: Peacock, Walker, Anderson, Okerstrom and Robinson
The Chairman declared the motion was not carried and the foregoing resolution is
not adopted. He asked for a counter motion.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Anderson, it was
#9- -59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, August 18, 1959, the City Planning Commission does
hereby deny Petition M-162 by the Citrin Oil Company requesting
permission to erect a gasoline station on the North side of
Plymouth Road between Camden and Haller in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 25 for the following reason:
I: (1) the proposed gas station is located too close in proximity
to the convalescent home and the noise and fumes from it
would aggravate the patients, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
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Mr. Citrin stated that at the public hearing the owner of the convalescent home
had been present and he had not objected to the proposed gas station.
Mr. McCullough stated that a gasoline stats .s not considered a nuisance or a
fire hazard, therefore, the Commission could/deny it for that reason.
Mr. Citrin asked if the Commission would let him submit some figures as to how
much of a fire hazard gasoline stations are in relation to other businesses. Mr.
Citrin read a report and survey from the American Fire Protective Association which
determined that gasoline stations were rated the same as churches.
Mr. Peacock stated his reason for denying petition was because he felt that the
noise and fumes would disturb the patients of the convalescent home.
Mr. Citrin stated that they 0.28 all lights so as not to shine on surrounding
property. He felt also that is @t any nuisance noise as compared to trucks going
in and out for a restaurant business.
Mr. Anderson stated he did not feel it was a good location for a gas station; that
the patients in the convalescent home were citizens and the Planning Commission
should consider them. He asked for a vote on the resolution made by Mr. Peacock.
Mr. Pizer stated that if their property is divided into 40 ft. lots ff;r individual
businesses that this would be more of a nuisance to the patients than a gas station.
Stated further that they should not be prevented from using their property for this
particular use just because of the present use of the adjoining property which may
not be the most desirable use. Mr. Pizer stated that it also must be taken into
consideration that the adjoining property may not always be used for a convalescent
home. Their property is zoned commercial and they are requesting a use which is
allowed in the commercial zoning.
Mr. Walker stated he was sympathetic with the petitioner but the Planning Commission.
had to be concerned with the welfare of the people in the convalescent home and he
felt that a gas station so close to the home would be detrimental to the safety and
welfare of the patients. Mr. Walker stated he was familiar with the physical ability
of the patients and the lack of room for them to walk about outdoors. Mr. Walker
asked that a vote be taken on the resolution made by Mr. Peacock.
Mr. Pizer asked that the petition be tabled until th_ next meeting in order to give
them time to contact the owner of the property to see if it could be arranged to
give an easement of twenty or thirty feet at the rear of the proposed gas station
property to the convalescent home to be used as a park for the patients of the home.
Mr. Angevine stated that Mr. Pizer9s request will be granted if the member of
the commission who made the motion to deny will withdraw his motion.
Mr. Peacock stated he would like his motion to deny to stand and asked for a vote.
A roll call vote on thea resolution made by Mr. Peacock and supported by Mr. Anderson
Iro resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Walker and Anderson
N AYS: Kane, Harsha, Okerstrom, Robinson and Angevine
The Chairman declared that the motion was not carried, therefore the resolution is
not adopted.
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Mr. Citrin stated that if there was any question as to the lights disturbing the
home, they would be willing to erect a wall along that side of the property between
the home and the station.
Mr. Angevine stated that this item would be considered at the next regular meeting
scheduled for September 15, 1959.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition V-48 by certain
residents of the Burton Hollows Subdivision who are requesting that the North 1/2
of Oakdale Avenue (432) abutting the rear of Lots 132, 133, 134, 142 and 143 of
the Burton Hollows Subdivision located in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 16 be
vacated. Public hearing held on August lF , 1959, item taken under advisement.
Study meeting August 25, 1959.
Mr. McCullough stated a letter dated August 21, 1959 had been received from the
Department of Public Works recommending that this petition be denied as this
property in petition is part of the flood plain.
Mr.E. Milligan, 16115 Burton Court stated that he has talked with Mr. Hiltz and
he was informed .' that the Department of Public Works desires to keep this
property for a flood plain. Stated further their only interest in this property
was to beautify it. He stated Mr. Hiltz had stated that all valley lands should
belong to the City. Mr. Milligan stated he appreciated the flood plain problem
and may be the Commission has a suggestion as to how they can take care of this.
Mr. McCullough stated that they would have to go along with the recommendation
made by the Department of Public Works.
Mr. Okerstrom stated when the original plat of the Burton Hollows Subdivision was
approved the developers had stated that no type of building would be built upon
this flood plain. This was part of the approval. As for improving this property,
the City would not :,bject to this.
Mr. Peacock asked Mr. Milligan if a. swimming pool was to be installed. Mr. Milligan
stated the pool was to be installed on the adjacent property, not on the property
in question. Stated further they felt they should have the deed to it if they were
going to maintain it.
Mr. McCullough suggested the item be tabled for two weeks in order to allow the
petitioners to discuss this more fully with Mr. Hiltz.
Mr. Walker stated that the Commission has had several discussions with the Department
of Public Works in relation to flood plains and he felt that the Commission should
go along with the recommendation submitted by the Engineering Department.
Mr. Milligan stated if the Commission denied this petition, they would be denying
it with limitcd information.
Mr. Harsha stated he took very serious objection to this statement. He stated he
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has gone over this problem very carefully and he agreed with Mr. Hiltz. It is
the policy of the Commission to go along with the pa commendation of the Engineering
Department.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Harsha, supported by Mr. Walker, it was
#9-284-59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, August 1F, 1959 on Petition V-4P as submitted by
certain residents of the Burton Hollows Subdivision for the
vacating of the North half of Oakdale Avenue abutting the
rear of Lots 132, 133, 134, 142 and 143 in the Northeast 1/4
of Section 16, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition V-48 be denied
without prejudice, based on the recommendation submitted
by the Engineering Department, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published
in the official newspaper, The Livonian under date of July
30, 1959 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit
Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co., Michigan Bell
Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company, City Departments,
petitioners and abutting property owners as listed in the
Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Kane, Walker, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom
and Angevine
NAYS: Robinson
IE: The Chairman declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is denied.
Mr. Angevine called a recess at approximately 9:50 p.m.
at 10:05 p.m.
Mr. Angevine called the special meeting back to order with all those present now
who were present at the time recess was called.
Mr. Angevine stated that Item #1 of the Public Hearing would now be brought back
for further discussion. Mr. B. Canvasser, representative for Petition M-165 was
present and submitted the necessary signatures required under the ordinance.
Mr. McCullough stated that the gentlemen present from the Buckingham Civic Associa-
tion have discussed this petition with Mr. Canvasser and they feel that this should
be discussed further with their civic association and are thereby requesting that
this petition be tabled for two weeks. Mr. McCullough further stated that the
petitioner feels if this is done, it is depriving him of time.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Robinson, it was
#9-285-59 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, September 1, 1959 the City Planning Commission
does hereby grant Petition M-165 by Canvasser Bros. Bldg. Co.
requesting permission to construct a retail garden center on
the North side of Schoolcraft between Inkster and Cardwell
in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 24, subject, however, to the
necessary waivers being verified, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
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Mr. Walker asked if the Commission was going to prohibit outdoor sales from this
petition. Mr. McCullough stated that the oudoor sales has been eliminated from
the request and Mr. Canvasser has confirmed there will be no outdoor sales.
Mr. Anderson asked what kind of lighting would be installed and what hours would
the garden center be open? Mr. Share, Vice-President of Frank's Nursery, st^ped
they would be opened seven days a week until 9:00 p.m. All lights will be shaded
so that they will not reflect on the neighboring homes.
Mr. Dooley, representing Buckingham Village Civic Association, stated they had
asked the petitioner to consent to tabling this petition until September 15, 1959
until they can advise the people who live in the vicinity of this garden center
the details in relationto it. Mr. Dooley further stated that the signatures
should be at the meeting tonight.
Mr. Angevine stated that the signatures have been submitted by Mr. Canvasser and
they only need to be verified.
Mr. Anderson stated that if it is found that there is someone who should have been
notified and has not been, there will another public hearing but there hive been
no complaints tonight from those notified. Mr. Robinson further stated that all
those within 500 ft. have bean notified and could have appeared tonight to object
if they had wished to.
Mr. Dooley stated he felt there had been no determination that everyone who should
1E: have bean notified, has been notified. Mr. Robinson stated that all names will
be verified,before a permit is issued,by the City Planner and if it is found that
there is any discrepancy, there will a new public hearing on the item.
Mr. Harsha asked Mr. Dooley if theyived within 500 ft. of the proposed garden
center. Mr. Dooley stated they did not.
A roll call on Resolution #9-285-59 resulted in the following vote:
AYES: Peacock, Kane, Walker, Harsha, Okerstrom, Robinson and
Angevine
NAYS: Anderson
The Chairman declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition Z-408 by the City
Planning Commission on its own motion, pursuant to Council's resolution #106-59,
to determine whether or not Section 4.32 of Article 4.00, Section 5.06 of Article
5.00 and Section 5.57 of Article 5.00 be amended. (Minimum floor area for houses
in RL, RU, and RUF Districts; increased side yard requirements with attached
garages in RL, RU, RUF and 70 foot R1 Districts) Public Hearing held on August
18, 1959, item taken under advisement. Study meeting August 25, 1959.
Mr. McCullough stated Mr. Steve Sl.avik, has objected to the petition on the basis
Ire that the homes in Burton Hollows Subdivision have been planned in accordance
with '•Le lots and the 8 ft. requirement in the RL District would definitely hurt
his building plans. It was noted that preliminary approval has been granted
to the Burton Hollows Subdivision and final approval granted to two portions of
the subdivision.
Mr. Walker asked if this petition is approved, would it be retroactive. Mr.
McCullough stated that the question has been if-ibis ordinance would pertain to
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plats already given preliminary approval.
Mr. Angevine felt it would not apply to those plats for which building permits
have been issued but for all others it would mean complying with the new ordinance.
Mr. Walker asked if the builder could go to the Zoning Board of Appeals as a
hardship. Mr. McCullough stated they could do this.
After a brief discussion, Mr. Walker suggested this item be taken under advisement
in order to determine if an arrancement could be worked out to take care of
those plats which have already had preliminar; approval.
Mr. Robinson was excused and left the meeting at approximately 10:30 p.m.
Mr. Angevine stated that Petition Z-408 would be taken under advisement until Septem-
ber 15, 1959.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition M-160 by Joseph
Crenshaw who is requesting permission to construct a motor supply and service
station on the Northeast corner of Seven Mile Road and St. Francis in theSoutheast
1/4 of Section 1. Public Hearing July 21, 1959; item taken under advisement. Mr.
Charest was present for petitioner.
Mr. McCullough stated that it was felt by Mr. Hiltz that since a drainrbi.ects
the property in petition, it should not be filled. Because it would have to be
filled in order to utilize the property, it is felt this petition should be denied.
Mr. Peacock asked Mr. Charest to clarify "motor supply". Mr. Charest stated
it was only for a service station and its supplies.
Mr. Okerstrom asked if this meant parking bulldozers, trucks, etc. on the property.
Mr. Charest stated it did not.
Mr. Charest further stated that he would like to request that this petition be
tabled for a period of time rather than denying it, until such time that information
has been received from the Wayne County Road Commission as to whether or not this
property can be utilized. If it is determined this property is not usable, the
petitioner will withdraw his petition.
Mr. Peacock stated he could not see why petition should be tabled after the
recommendation from the engineering department has clearly stated the flood plain
could not be filled in.
Mr. Walker asked Mr. Charest if he felt that it is possible that the flood plain
or the creek can be relocated in this area. Mr. Charest stated it is possible.
Mr.wh,ngevine asked Mr. Okerstrom to act as Secretary in the absence of Mr. Robinson.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Anderson, supported by Mr. Kane, it was
#9-286-59 RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission does hereby
table Petition M-160 submitted by Joseph Crenshaw who
is requesting permission to construct a motor supply and
IC: service station on the Northeast corner of Seven Mile Road
and St. Francis in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 1, for
a period of two months.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Peacock, Kane, Walker, Harsha, Anderson, Okerstrom and Angevine
NAYS: None
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The Chairman declared the motion is carried and the petition is tabled for 2 months.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#9-287-59 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby
grant request from the Stout Homes Builders dated August
13, 1959 for a one-year extension on the remaining
portions of the Castle Gardens Subdivision located in
Section 19.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. Angevine stated that in relation to Item #6, Petition V-48, which was denied
without prejudice earlier in the meeting, a motion was made by the City Planning
Commission to amend the Master Thoroughfare Plan to delete Oakdale Avenue. Since
the petition was denied, it will be necessary to rescind the resolution adopted
on August 18, 1959.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Anderson and unanimously
adopted, it was
#9-288-59 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby
rescind Resolution #8-255-59 adopted at a public hearing
held on Tuesday, August 18, 1959 in relation to holding
a public hearing to determine whether or not to amend
the Master Thoroughfare Plan by deleting Oakdale Avenue
from Stamford F:.. `erly to the center of Farmington as
requested by petitioners in Petition V-48, said petition
being denied without prejudice at the 109th Special
Meeting held on Tuesday, September 1, 1959.
The Chairman declared the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was the nomination of off'.c rs
for the City Planning Commission.
Mr. Angevine stated that the floor was open for nominations. for Chairman.
Mr. Peacock nominated Mr. Walker for Chairman.
Mr. Okerstrom nominated Mr. Angevine for Chairman.
Mr. Walker nominated Mr. Harsha for Chairman. Mr. Harsha stated he would have to
declined due to ill health.
Mr. Anderson nominated Mr. Peacock for Chairman. Mr. Peacock declined stating
it was difficult for him to be at the meetings on time due to his office being
on the east side of Detroit.
I[: Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, supported by Mr. Kane and unanimously
adopted, it was
#9-289-59 RESOLVED that, nominations for Chairman are hereby
closed.
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IL: Mr. Angevine stated nominations are open for Vice-Chairman.
Mr. Walker nominated Mr. Paul Harsha for Vice-Chairman.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Walker and unanimously
adopted, it was
#9-290-59 RESOLVED that, nominations for Vice-Chairman are hereby
closed.
Mr. Angevine stated nominations are open for Secretary.
Mr. Peacock nominated Mr. Robinson for Secretary.
Mr. Walker nominated Mr. Anderson for Secretary. Mr. Anderson declined, stating
it was also difficult for him to be at the meetings on time.
Mr. Okerstrom nominated Mr. Kane for Secretary.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Anderson, supported by Mr. Walker, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#9-291-59 RESOLVED that, nominations for Secreatry are hereby
closed.
Mr. Okerstrom stated he would not be able to attend the meeting on September 15,
1959 and suggested that the election be voted on a secret ballot. It was suggested
a ballot could be mailed to the members of the commission with a self-addressed
stamped envelope which could be returned to the City Planner. They would 'not be
opened until the night of the meeting.
Mr. Anderson felt it should be an open vote. Mr. Peacock concurred.
Mr. Angevine asked that a vote be taken to determine whether it should be a secret
ballot or nTt.
AYES: Harsha, Walker, Kane, Okerstrom and Angevine
NAYS: Anderson and Peacock.
Mr. Angevine declared that the election would be on a secret ballot. The City
Planner was asked to take care of this item.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Walker and unanimously
adopted, the 109th Special Meeting was duly adjourned at approximately 10:50
on Tuesday, September 1, 1959.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
I[: . L. Angevin , Chairman
ATTESTED: r
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William R. Robinson, Secretary WiIre `k;. 't)kerstrom, Secretary
pro tem