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MINUTES OF THE 128TH SPECIAL MEETING
ll: OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LIVONIA
On Tuesday, March 28, 1961 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held
the Special Meeting at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Charles Walker, Chairman, called the Special Meeting to order at approximately
8:05 p.m.
Members present: Robert L. Angevine, James Watson, W. E. Okerstrom, Robert
M. Peacock, Leonard K. Kane, Robert L. Greene, James
Cameron and Charles W. Walker
Members absent: **Dennis Anderson
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner, was present along with approximately 6
interested persons in the audience.
Mr. Walker, on behalf of the Planning Commission, welcomed Mr. Kane back. Mr. Kane
had been absent two months due to a siege of pneumonia.
Mr. McCullough: The first item on the agenda is Petition M-218 by Joseph
Cyr requesting approval to erect a Catholic school on the
north side of Lyndon Road approximately 360 feet West of
Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 21. Public
Hearing 3/7/61, item taken under advisement; Regular
Meeting 3/14/61, item taken under advisement.
Mr. Joseph Cyr was present.
Mr. Walker: I have talked with Mr. Cyr and as far as the buses are
concerned, they will not be serviced on the school site.
Mr. Cyr: Each parish will be responsible for bringing their students
to the school rather than having a central bus line. There
will be no bus storage upon the property during the day.
Mr. Walker asked the Commission if they would like to have thequestions,raised at
the public hearing,read to them at this time. It was determined that this was not
necessary.
Mr. Walker: Mr. Cyr, at the time the plan was originally submitted, I
believe you did say that the new school was going to work
with the development of the 40 acre park site on the south
side of Lyndon.
Mr. Cyr: There will be some help for it. There is no policy on this
but it has appeared that they will make certain lease arrange-
ments with the city to use a portion of this site. I would
be in error to say that the Catholic School would be using
the site on the whole.
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Mr. Walker: We have had quite some time to consider this petition and
I believe, we are all acquainted with the pertinent facts
of the item. If there are no further questions, the floor
is now open for a motion.
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1E: Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Angevine, supported by Mr. Greene, it was
#3-59-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, March 7, 1961 the City Planning Commission does hereby
grant Petition M-218 by Joseph Cyr requesting approval to erect a
Catholic School on the north side of Lyndon Road approximately 360
ft. West of Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 21, with
the following recommendation:
(1) that the petitioner make efforts to procure additional land since it
is highly desirable to have a minimum of 25 to 35 acres for a high
school site, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property
owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in
the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Cameron, Peacock, Watson, Kane, Okerstrom, Walker, Greene and
Angevine
NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is
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adopted.
lMr. McCullough: The,next item on the agenda is Petition Z-499 by Gordon-
Begin Company asking that the zoning classifications of
property located on the Northeast corner of Lyndon and
Middlebelt in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 24; the Southeast
corner of Middlebelt and Lyndon in the Southwest 1/4 of Section
24 and on the Southwest corner of Middlebelt and Lyndon in
the Southeast 1/4 of Section 23 from RUFB and R-1A to PS.
Public Hearing 3/14/61, itcm taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker: Mr. Gordon telephoned me that they wanted to be here tonight.
There is pertinent information that they would like to pre-
sent in relation to this petition. They have asked me to
inform the Commission of this and asked that this item be
held up until they can appear before the Commission. They
were unable to appear tonight.
Is there any objection to the postponement?
Mr. Okerstrom: This petition was taken under advisement because the petitioner
wasn't present at the public hearing. Mr. Greene suggested
at that time to wait until they could be present in order
that some questions could be answered. I feel that we should
proceed on this. They have had ample time to present their
views.
Et: Peacock: I concur with Mr. Okerstrom, I think we should take action.
Watson: I go along with Mr. Peacock and Mr. Okerstrom.
Mr. Greene: What is the information they wich to submit to us?
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Mr. Walker: I did not get the full details. He wanted an opportunity
to sit with the commission and discuss this in detail. It
is in relation to tie original plattihe of tae land.
Mr. Peacock: I think he has had the opportunity to discuss this with the
Commission.
Mr. Cameron: Weren't there several people from the subdivision objecting
to the petition at the last meeting?
Mr. McCullough: Yes, several persons are present tonight also.
Mr. Watson: I feel it is unfair to hold it up any longer when there are
people present who are interested in it.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Watson, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#3-60-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, March 14, 1961 on Petition Z-499 by Gordon-Begin Company
for a change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 24; in the
Southwest 1/4 of Section 24 and in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 23
from RUFB and R-1A to PS, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-499 be denied for the
following reasons:
(a) there is an existing clinic within approximately 550 feet which
meets the needs of the area;
(b) each of the corners is probably too small to accomodate a building
with sufficient parking under the recent changes made in the law, and
(c) that the petitioner has failed to be present at two consecutive
meetings to answer questions, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the
official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of February 22, 1961
and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The
Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioner as listed in
the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker: Any discussion on the motion.
Mr. Okerstrom: Shouldn't the following also be added? "that the new
home owners and tax payers in the City have purchased
their homes with the understanding that this would be an
all residential district"
Mr. Walker: I don't feel it is important since the original plats show
this area to be residential.
Mr. Watson: I would go along with your suggestion, Mr. Okerstrom, but
I do not think, as Mr. Walker stated, that it is important.
= A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Cameron, Peacock, Greene, Watson, Angevine, Kane and Okerstrom
NAYS: Walker
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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[ Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-491 by Mike
Sinacola, et al, asking that the zoning classification of
property located approximately 300 ft. South of Seven Mile
Road and 175 ft. East of Middlebelt Road in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 12 to be rezoned from C-2 and R-1B to R-3A
and/or PS. Public Hearing 2/21/61, item taken under advise-
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ment.
Mr. Walker: Mr. McCullough and I have been trying to see if this
property in the petition could be developed into a Senior
Citizens' Home but I believe the petitioner has now
decided to have this property rezoned to R-3.
Mr. McCullough: The architect, Mr. Kilgore called this afternoon and asked
that this item be postponed.
**Mr. Dennis Anderson arrived at 8:25 p.m.
Mr. Watson: Are there any interested persons present for this petition?
Mr. McCullough: No, we called and told them it was not going to be acted
upon.
Mr. Walker: The Chair will continue to take this item under advisement.
,, Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-490 by Elwood
Manns asking that the zoning classifications on property
located on the East side of Middlebelt approximately 250 ft.
South of Six Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 13
be rezoned from RUFB to C-2. Public Hearing 2/21/61,
advisement.
Mr. Harold Rice is present on behalf of Mr. Manns.
Mr. Walker: Did we receive a letter from the Board of Health on the matter
of the septic tank?
Mr. McCullough: Yes, we have.
(Mr. McCullough read the letter to the commission. )
Even if the zoning is granted to them, the petitioner will
have to acquire the approval from the Board of Health before
he will be able to build his funeral home, in relation to
the septic tank matter.
Mr. Charles Forrest, Assistant City Attorney arrived at approximately 8:30 p.m.
Mr. Walker: The Board of Health was concerned with the fact that the
lot was too small considering the amount of drainage that
would be necessary for this type of business.
LMr. Harold Rice informed the commission that the matter has been discussed with Mr.
Stock of the Wayne County Board of Health. He felt that this was not a zoning
problem and that it will have to be settled with the City' s Building Department be-
fore they ,will be permitted to build the funeral home, after the zoning has been
approved.
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Mr. Peacock: Would you be willing to verbally ask.. to amend the petition
Land request a PS zoning instead of C-2 as originally requested?
Mr. Rice: Yes, and also I have it in writing.
Mr. Rice submitted the request to the commission.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Peacock, it was
#3-61-61 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby allow
Mr. Harold Rice on behalf of Mr. Elwood Manns for Petition Z-490
to amend said petition to read "RUFB to PS" instead of"RUFB to
C-2" as originally requested, and as stated in the letter dated
March 17, 1961 and submitted to the Planning Commission confirming
said request.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Cameron, Peacock, Greene, Watson, Angevine, Kane, Okerstrom,
Walker and Anderson
NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and Petition Z-490 is amended.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Cameron and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-62-61 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, February 21, 1961 on Petition Z-490 as submitted by
Mr. Elwood Manns for a change of zoning in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 13 from RUFB to PS, the City Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-490, as
amended by Res. #3-61-61, be granted for the following reasons:
(a) This land faces commercial zoning on the west side of
Middlebelt;
(b) The PS zoning will be a good buffer between the existing
commercial to the north and the residential to the south, and
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the
official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of February 1, 1961
and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit Edison Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co. , The
Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and petitioner as listed in
the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the f oregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the proposed Canbros
Buckingham Plaza Subdivision which is a replatting of Outlots
A and B of the Buckingham Village Subdivision #2 located on the
Northwest corner of Schoolcraft and Inkster Roads in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 24. Submitted by Mason L. Brown
& Sons, Inc. , public hearing 1/10/61, item taken under
advisement.
It was determined that this item would be held further under advisement for the
reason that the petitioner has not yet begun to erect the protective wall as re-
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quired by ordinance.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a motion by the City Planning
Commission pursuant to City Council's Res. #668-60 to hold
a public hearing to determine whether or not Section 20.01
should be amended so as to provide that written notice be
given to all abutting and adjoining property owners in all
rezoning cases initiated by property owners.
It was determined that before a motion is made to hold a public hearing on this
amendment, that cost figures be obtained in order to determine if this will involve
an expense which is presently not appropriated. Mr. McCullough stated this would
be compiled and forwarded to the Finance Committee of the City Council.
Mr. McCullough suggested that Item #9 be heard now for the reason that there was
someone present who was interested in said Item.
Mr. McCullough: Item #9 is a discussion on whether or not to hold a public
hearing on petition from certain residents on Ann Arbor
Trail in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32 requesting the re-
classification of certain commercial property. This is
pursuant to City Council's Resolution #132-61.
Mr. William B. Williams, 35975 Ann Arbor Trail, Livonia was present.
Mr. McCullough read the Council's resolution to the Commission. Mr. Williams was
i under the impression that the Council had requested the City Planning Commission
to make a motion to hold a public hearing to determine if this property should be
rezoned from C-1 to R-1A. The resolution only stated that the Council refers
the request from certain residents to the City Planning Commission for its review
and a determination as to whether or not the Planning Commission should initiate
a zoning petition in accordance with the request.
Mr. Okerstrom: Wouldn't it be wise to examine this area first before
making any determination?
Mr. Walker: Yes, I would say so.
Mr. Williams: I represent the home owners in the New Joy Subdivision. We
have requested a rezoning of this commercial property. We
were misled: at the time we purchased our homes. The
developers, Rose-Hill informed us this was all residential.
We submitted our request to the City Council for these
reasons. One, property value, and two, safety. This
section of Ann Arbor Trail has had a large accident rate
because of the particularly bad curve at this point. So far
this year there have been five (5) accidents. We do not
feel that a shopping center would be conducive to any safety.
Also, this area is within walking distance to the Andrew
Johnson School. No bus service for those within a mile of
IL: the school. We have children walking in this area and we
feel that this will be a traffic hazard for our children
if a shopping center is put into this C-1 zone.
Mr. McCullough: What is on the property naw?
Mr. Williams: It is a wooded lot with an antique shop and a nursery. It
was at one time a private riding club. We have requested
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that this area be rezoned to RUFA which would not hurt
the nursery on the property.
Mr. McCullough: Would you build your house next to a cemetery?
Mr. Williams: There is a subdivision opposite to the cemetery and they
are doing very good. Their lots back onto the cemetery.
Mr. Okerstrom: According to the zoning maps, it has been zoned C-1 since
at least 1952.
Mr. Watson: You are only interested in that C-i that is across from
the subdivision you live in. You are n of concerned with
the other next to it?
Mr. Williams: We are interested in the C-1 area from Parent Street to
the cemetery. It is zoned residential on the south side
of Ann Arbor Trail.
Mr. Walker: The Commission will examine the area first and then a
determination will be made. This item will be taken under
advisement until this has been done.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a motion to hold a public
hearing to determine whether or not Sections 10.17 and
11.19 of Articles 10.00 and 11.00 respectively, should be
amended to increase the commercial setback to 60 ft.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Watson and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-63-61 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission pursuant to Section 20.01
of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, does hereby establish
and order that a public hearing be held to determine whether or not
to amend Sections 10.17 and 11.19 of Articles 10.00 and 11.00 respectively
as follows:
Section 10.17 of Article 10.00: Front and Side Yard Requirements
Except as hereinbefore provided, each commercial building in
any C-1 District shall have a front yard not less than sixty
(60) feet deep and each commercial building on corner lots in any
C-1 District shall have a side yard of not less than twenty-five
(25) feet deep as measured from the front or side lot line, which-
ever is the case; provided, however, that where any such lot or
parcel abuts a major thoroughfare having an existing or planned
width of eighty-six (86) feet or more as shown on the Master Thorough-
fare Plan , the front and/or side yard shall be measured from the
outside boundaries of such major thoroughfare as shown on the said
Master Thoroughfare Plan. Notwithstanding the above, where there are
existing commercial buildings situated within one hundred (100) feet
of the proposed building on the same side of the street, then in such
instances the required front or side yard, whichever is the case, shall
be the average depth of the front or side yards of such existing
commercial buildings, but not to exceed sixty (60) feet in the case of
a front yard or to exceed twenty-five (25) feet in the case of a side
yard.
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Section 11.19 of Article 11.00: Front and Side Yard Requirements
IL: Except as hereinbefore provided, each commercial building in any
C-2 district shall have a front year not less than sixty (60) feet deep
and each commercial building on corner lots in any C-2 District shall
have a side yard of not less than twenty-five (25) feet deep as measured
from the front or side lot line, whichever is the case; provided, however,
that where any such lot or parcel abuts a major thoroughfare having an
existing or planned width of eighty-six (86) feet or more as shown on
the Master Thoroughfare Plan, the front and/or side yard shall be measured
from the outside boundaries of such major thoroughfare as shown on the
said Master Thoroughfare Plan. Notwithstanding the above, where there
are existing commercial buildings situated within one hundred (100) feet
of the proposed building on the same side of the street, then in such
instances the required front or side yard, whichever is the case, shall
be the average depth of the front or side yards of such existing commercial
buildings, but not to exceed sixty (60) feet in the case of a front yard
or to exceed twenty-five (25) feet in the case of a side yard.
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough informed the Commission that two property owners on Plymouth Road
had informed him that they were going to ask the City Council to condemn several
of their lots and use them for parking facilities to relieve the parking problem
along Plymouth Road between Merriman and Hubbard Road in the north half of
Section 34.
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Mr. Anderson felt that when the Inspection Department issues a building permit to
anyone, they ought to recommend that the petitioner acquire the approval of the
City Planner on the parking layout as a requirement to obtaining a building permit.
If this is done, there will be no problem of someone not having sufficient parking.
Mr. Walker suggested to Mr. Anderson that he submit a prepared resolution in regards
to this and after it is acted upon by the Commission it can be forwarded to the
Building Department. He stated Mr. Anderson could contact Mr. Forrest, Assistant
Attorney, to work something out.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Angevine and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-64-61 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the
minutes for meetings held on Tuesday, February 21 and March 7, 1961
except for that member who was not present, he abstain from voting.
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Anderson, supported by Mr. Cameron and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-65-61 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby respectfully
request the City Council to transfer the sum of $1200 from the
IL: Printing Account (157-20) to the Travel & Education Account (157-29)
to cover the cost of sending three (3) Planning Commission members to
the ASPO National Planning Conference in Denver, Colorado during the
first week in May.
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Peacock, supported by Mr. Watson and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 128th Special Meeting
, held on Tuesday, March 28, 1961 at approximately 9:20 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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W. E. Okerstrom, Secretary
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Cha es W. Walker, Chairman