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MINUTES OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE
137TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY
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PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LIVONIA
On Tuesday, March 20, 1962 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held
a public hearing and the 137th Regular Meeting at the City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road,
Livonia. Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman, called the public hearing to order at
approximately 8:05 p.m.
Members present: W. E. Okerstrom, Leonard K. Kane, Dennis Anderson, James
W. Watson, Jr. , James Cameron
Members absent : **Arthur Samuels, *Robert L. Greene, ***Robert L. Angevine
Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner, was present along with approximately 30
interested persons in the audience.
Mr. McCullough: The first item on the agenda is Petition M-241 by John
Croft, Pastor of Pilgrim Holiness Church is requesting per-
mission to erect a church on the north side of Terrence Avenue
approximately 350 ft. west of Harrison Avenue in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 13.
Mr. McCullough informed the commission and audience that the petitioner has requested
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permission to withdraw his petition. A letter has been filed accordingly.
_ *Mr. Robert L. Greene arrived at approximately 8:08 p.m.
Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak in relation
to this petition.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Okerstrom, it was
#3-55-62 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, March 20, 1962 the City Planning Commission does hereby
allow petitioner for Petition M-241,requesting permission to
erect a church in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 13, to withdraw
said petition.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Cameron, Greene, Watson, Anderson, Kane, Okerstrom and Walker
NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
W. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-548 by A. L.
Karabelnick, The Channel Company, is asking that the zoning classification
of property located on the north side of St. Martins Street approximately
350 ft. West of Middlebelt Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 2 be
rezoned from R-1B and RUFB to R-3.
W. A. L..Yarabelnick was present.
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Mr. McCullough submitted a petition in support of the rezoning. He stated there
IEwere people in the audience who are opposed to it. Mr. McCullough asked Mr. Karabelnick
to explain what he intended to do with the property.
Mr. Karabelnick stated it was contemplated to erect an apartment building consisting
of 40 units, brick construction with 250 ft. frontage along St. Martins. They had
about 33 acres for this use. It would cost approximately $250,000.
**Mr. Arthur Samuels arrived at approximately 8: 10 p.m.
Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. R. Bishop, 29537 Bretton, submitted a petition signed by several property
owners who objected to the proposed rezoning. He stated they objected to the re-
zoning because they felt the R-3 would hurt the value of their homes, deprive them
of their privacy and it would overcrowd the schools to a point that the taxes would
increase so as to be able to build additional schools. They also objected to the
swimming pool proposed. Mr. Karabelnick stated at this point that there was to
be no swimming pool. Mr. Bishop did not feel that 80 parking spaces was necessary
for forty units unless it was contemplated to increase the apartment units in the
future. He stated that he did not know why Mr. Karabelnick didn't built 6 or 8
homes on the property rather than erect an apartment building. Mr. Karabelnick stated
he felt apartment buildings would help them more than one family residences.
***Mr. Robert L. Angevine arrived at appraKimately 6:15 p.m.
Mr. Bishop asked Mr. Karabelnick how did apartment buildings help them? Mr. Kara-
^ belnick stated that generally apartment buildings were occupied by elderly people
whose children are already married or by couples with very few children. This is
due to the units only have one or two bedrooms. When their families grow so that
two bedrooms aren't enough they usually move out. He felt that M:. BishcP was being
over apprehensive about this matter.
Mr. Charles Forrest, Assistant City Attorney arrived at approximately 8:20 p.m.
Mr. Samuels inquired as to where the homes were located of the people who objected?
Mr. Bishop indicated on the area map his home and the others who objected.
Mr. Walker stated that petitions pro and con had been received onthis rezoning
petition. He felt that the Planning Commission would have to study this for the
whole area and not for just this particular piece of property. The Commission is
concerned with this area of R-3 projecting into the surrounding residential property.
This is also other land not yet developed. This should be taken into consideration
too along with the property in the petition.
Mr. Cameron asked if the superintendent of the Claranceville School District had
been heard from. Mr. McCullough stated no communication had been received.
Mr. Walker stated this was another point to be considered. He concluded by stating
that this item would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Bishop requested that he be notified as to the next meeting this item would be
I:: scheduled for.
Mr. Walker requested the secretary to notify Mr. Bishop.
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Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-549 by Donald
Deremo for Otonas Vaitas, M.D. , who is asking that the zoning classi-
fication on property located on the north side of Orangelawn and west
side of Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 33 be rezoned
from RUFB to PS.
Mr. Donald Deremo and Dr. Vaitas were present.
Mr. Deremo explained the request to the audience. He stated this property was located
north of Orangelawn and west of Farmington Road with a frontage of 208 ft. on Farmington
Road and a total overall depth of 327 ft. At the present there is a residence on
the northwest corner of Orangelawn and Farmington Road. He stated Dr. Vaitas was
presently practicing from the office of Dr. Novack located across the street on
Farmington.
Mr. McCullough asked Mr. Deremo what was located immediately north of the property
in question, and also what was the zoning on the east side of Farmirg ton Road? Mr.
Deremo answered there were three single homes north of this property and there were
duplexes in a:R-3 zone on the east side of Farmington Road. There were single home
residences on Orangelawn.
Mr. Deremo stated they plan to use this property for a medical clinic which would
cost in the neighborhood of $40,000 for the building alone. It is located on a busy
thoroughfare and has been for sale for a considerable length of time. North of this
property beyond the residences there are additional professional offices. The building
will front on Farmington. At the present time it is not intended to use the back
portion of the property but there could be a long range plan to use this property for
a convalescent home in the future but if this happens, Mr. Deremo stated, they would
have to come before the Planning Commission. again.
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Mr. Walker asked how many lots does the doctor own?
Mr. Deremo stated he owned 32 lots.
Mr. Walker asked Mr. Deremo if his client would be interested in only an area large
enough for the particular use he has in mind at this time?
Mr. Deremo stated they would prefer not to have it that way. The property is vacant
behind their property. There has been rumors of some doctors purchasing this property
for a hospital.They would prefer to leave it PS for the entire parcel, because if it
is to be developed later it would mean they would have to come back before the
commission for a PS zoning. It is probable that if there are strong objections at
this time, they would be satisfied with just the portion for the medical clinic.
Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. R. Lantzer, 10375 Farmington Road voiced his objections to the proposed rezoning.
Mr. R. Simonds, 33417 Orangelawn objected to the proposed rezoning also. He stated
Farmington Road may be a main artery but Orangelawn wasn't.
I:: Mr. Walker stated the Commission is aware of this and for this reason, they are
attempting to find out if the petitioner would be willing to amend his petition so
as to request a rezoning for that portion fronting on Farmington Road.
Mr. Lantzer asked if the petitioner does receive, the rezoning for Farmington Road,
what about the convalescent home?
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Mr. Walker stated if the petitioner received a rezoning at this time, it would be
only for that portion fronting on Farmington Road and only sufficient land for
a medical clinic. There would not be sufficient land for a convalescent home because
we would not be rezoning the rear part of the property at all.
L Mr. Lantzer asked what happens to the property between the two professional areas?
Mr. Walker stated this was hard to say.
Mr. Simonds questioned the type of architecture that would be built if the rezoning
was approved? Mr. Deremo sta ted that it was planned to have the same architect
for this medical clinic as for the professional village north of their property.
Mr. Greene asked if the petitioner is willing to accept the limited frontage on
Farmington Road? Is he willing to amend his petition?
Mr. Deremo stated they would like to have an opportunity to take this under advise-
ment and table this for another two weeks in order to give the doctor and his
associates time to discuss the proposals involved.
Mr. Walker suggested that in discussing it they keep in mind the property lines of
the property and to try and match them so that they won't stagger.
Mr. Anderson suggested that the depth of the property be kept at 200 ft.
Mr. Deremo thought that there was a sewer located 100 ft. west of the centerline
.--•- of Farmington Road on which no building can be built. Mr. Lantzer stated there was
ilsI no sewer located there.
Mr. Walker stated this item would be taken under advisement until the next meeting.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-436a by Casimir
Gawron who is asking that the zoning classification of property located on the
Northeast corner of Mix and Joy Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 31 be rezoned
from C-1 to C-2.
Mr. C. Gawron was present.
Mr. Gawron stated he had no specific plans for this property at the present time. It
has been zoned for commercial use since 1928. East of his property was the Edison
sub-station and south of Joy, located in Nankin Township, was a small grocery store.
Mr. Gawron submitted photographs of the area to the commission.
Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak?
Mr. James Getzen, 8820 Hix Road asked what were Mr. Gawron plans for the corner?
Mr. Gawron stated he had no immediate plans. He felt that since the C-1 zone was
made more restrictive it was hard for him to sell this property under that zone.
He stated if he had a chance for a gasoline station he would be able to accept the
1:: offer if the property were zoned C-2.
M . Getzen asked what was the difference between C-1 and C-2?
Mr. Walker stated one difference is that if he had an opportunity to put in a gasoline
station he could if he had the C-2 but not in C-1. He would be more restricted in
the size of building he could erect. The C-1 zone allows only up to 5 employees.
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Mr. Getzen stated he felt he could get enough people to object to a gasoline station
being erected on that corner. -
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Mr. Gawron asked Mr. Getzen what would he suggest be built on that corner. Mr.
Getzen stated he would prefer something other than a gasoline station because he
felt this would bring down the value of his home.
Mr. Gawrcn stated he was limited as to the types of business on this corner due to
its small size. He stated he was not asking for approval of a gasoline station. he
was only asking for a rezoning.
Mr. Getzen stated he was objecting because of the. building the Edison Company.
had built immediately vast of the property in question. They had said it would be
a small sub-station and it turned out to be a 75 ft. tall building.
Mr. Okerstrom stated that there is an ordinance which requires a protective wall
between this commercial area and the residential area. He also asked Mr. Getzen
if he would be interested in vacating the alley which would give him an additional
10 feet. Mr. Getzen asked how high would the wall be? Mr. Okerstrom stated six
feet.
There were no further comments from the audience.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was
#3-5,1- 2 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Petition Z-436a as submitted by Casimir Gawron for a change of
zoning in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 31 from C-1 to C-2, the
IC- City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition Z-43ua be granted for the following reasons:
(a) that the Edison sub-station on the adjoining lot probably
makes it unacceptable for many types of business and therefore,
the land ower needs a broader range of permissible uses.
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in
the official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of February
26, 1962 and notice of which hearing was sent to The Detroit
Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell
Telephone Co. , The Consumers Power Co. , City Departments and
petitioner as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Angevine, Greene, Watson, Anderson, Kane,
Okerstrom and Walker
NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by M . Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was
1:400 #3-57-62 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn
the/Public Hearing at approximately 9:05 p.m. held on Tuesday,
March 20, 19u2.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
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AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Angevine, Greene, Watson, Anderson, Kane
Okerstrom and Walker
I/: NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
The Chairman, Mr. Walker, called recess at approximately 9:06 p.m.
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Mr. Walker called the 137th Regular Meeting to order at approximately 9;15 p.m. with
all those present now who were present at the time recess was called.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-542 by M. J.
Sharpley who is asking that the zoning classification of property located
on the west side of Middlebelt Road between Minton and Westfield in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 35 be rezoned from RUFB and R-2B to PS. Public
Hearing 2/20/62, item taken under advisement; Special Meeting 3/6/62, item
taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker informed those present that he had been contacted by the Library
Commission they were examining the property and would like a little more time to
make a decision. Mr. Walker asked Mr. Griffin, representing Mrs. Sharpley, if
they were agreeable to having this item taken under advisement until the Planning
Commission's next meeting. Mr. Griffin stated they had no objection to setting aside
this item for another two weeks.
Mr. Walker informed the audience that this item would be taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-547 by Robert
Serota who is asking that the zoning classification of property located
between Deering and St. Francis immediately south of Hamlin Court in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 1 be rezoned from P and RUFB to C-2. Public
Hearing 3/6/62, item taken under advisement.
Mr. McCullough stated Mr. Serota has submitted revised plans of the proposed motel.
Mr. Serota stated they have plans now for 100 units. They have eliminated 17 units
from the plans previously submitted and have added 13 additional car spaces. He
stated the plans submitted tonight were very close to what will be built.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Greene, it was
#3-53-62 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on
Tuesday, March 6, 1962 on Petition Z-547 as submitted by Robert
Serota for a change of zoning in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 1
from P and RUFB to C-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-547 be granted,
for the following reasons:
(a) it will permit the erection of a motel which is a substantial
commercial addition to the tax rolls;
(b) that part of the land in question is probably unuseable unless
it is developed in connection with the adjoining commercial tract;
FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the
official newspaper, The Livonian, under date of February 14, 1962
and notice of which hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company,
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Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Co. , Michigan Bell Telephone Co., The
Consumers Power Company, City Departments and petitioner as listed
in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Greene, Angevine, Watson, Anderson, Kane,
Okerstrom and Walker
NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Watson, supported by Mr. Angevine and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-59-62 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
on Tuesday, March 6, 1962 the City Planning Commission does
herebY_grant Petition M-240 of Robert Serota who is requesting
permission to construct a motel with restaurant and private
swimming pool on property located on the South side of Grand
• River between Deering and St. Francis Street in the Northeast
1/4 of Section 1, and,in addition t_givesapproval to the revised
site Elan dated March 8; 1962 , Wand
FURTHER RESOLVE, notice of the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
IEMr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is Petition Z-544 by the City
Planning Commission, pursuant to City Council's Res. #64-62 to determine
whether or not to rezone property located on the east side of Middlebelt
Road approximately 150 ft. north of Clarita in the Northwest 1/4 of Section
12 from RUFB to C-2. Public Hearing 3/6/42, item taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker stated that he had been informed that the matter of purchasing property
for a fire station site was on the agenda of the City Council for tomorrow night.
Because of this, he would like to suggest that this item be held up until the Council
has made a decision on the matter.
Mr. Broombaugh, representative for the owner of the property in question, stated he
felt this was a question of rezoning not whether or not the city would purchase the
adjoining property. Mr. Walker felt this item should be taken under advisement until
Mr. Davis, who objected to the proposed fire station site being located in that area,
has had a meeting with the City Council. This item will be taken under advisement.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr.Anderson, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was
#3-60-42 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia having
given due consideration to the designated proposed width and location of
Myrna between Loveland and Farmington Road in the City of Livonia which is
I[: located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 15, of said City, and it appearing
that the present width of Myrna in said section and as shown on the Master
Thoroughfare Plan is excessive and unnecessary for the health, safety and
general welfare of the community and that said width would not carry out
the intent and purpose of the Master Plan; and it also appearing that the
designated proposed location of Myrna in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 15 as
presently shown on said Master Thoroughfare Plan should be changed from its
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present location to a new location, the legal description of which is
stated below, for the reason that said relocation would be in the best
IC: interests of the health, safety and general welfare of the community
and more appropriately carry out the purpose of intent of the City's
Master Thoroughfare Plan; the City Planning Commission on its own
motion does hereby establish and order a public hearing to be held in
the City Hall of the City of Livonia to determine whether or not Part I
of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia, that is the Master Thoroughfare
Plan, should be amended as follows:
(a) so as to reduce the proposed width of Myrna Avenue between Loveland and
Farmington Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 15 of the City of Livonia
from 86 ft. to u0 ft. ; and
(b) designate the south line of the 60 ft. relocated right-of-way for
Myrna to read as follows:
Beginning at a point on the West 1/4 line distant S. 0° 5' 50"
east, 523.60 ft. from the west 1/4 corner of Section 15, City
of Livonia; thence north 89° 54' 10" east along the south line of a right-
of-way 86 ft. wide, 240 ft. ; thence north 89° 54' 10" east along the south
line of a right-of-way of decreasing width, 30 ft. ; thence on a curve
concave to the left (radius 280 ft. ; delta 23° 29' 40", T. 53 ft. chord
distant 114.01 ft.) along the south line of a right-of-way of decreasing
width 114.82 ft. to the point of tangent; thence north 6J° 24' 30" east
along the south line of right-of-way of decreasing width 26.37 ft. ; thence ,
north 6J° 24' 30" east along the south line of right-of-way 60 ft. wide
527.31 ft. ; thence on a curve concave to the right (radius 444.55; delta
IL24° 07' 30" tangent 95.00 ft. , chord distant 185.80 ft.) 187.18 ft. to the
point of tangent; thence south 89° 2d' 00" east along the south line of
right-of-way 60 ft. wide, 31.96 ft. ; thence on a curve concave to the right
(radius 60 ft. delta 23° 33' 34" chord distant 24.50 ft. , tangent 12.51 ft.)
along the south line of a right-of-way of increasing width 24.67 ft. ; thence
on a curve concave to the left (radius 60 ft. , delta 135° 20' 29" chord
distant 111.00 ft. tangent 146.08 ft.) along the south line of a right-of-way
of increasing width 93.45 ft. to the point of termination,
IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED that notice of the time and place of said public
hearing be published in a newspaper of general circ,lation in the City of
Livonia and that proper notice by registered mail be sent to each public
utility company and railroad company owning or operating any public utility
or railroad within the City of Livonia in accordance with the provisions of
Act 265 of the Public Acts of 1931, as amended.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Samuels, Cameron, Greene, Angevine, Watson, Anderson, Kane,
Okerstrom and Walker
NAYS: None
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
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4 Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is the approval of the
revised plans of Idyl Wyld Subdivision #3 located in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 20. Submitted by John Uznis.
It was determined that this was a matter of 10 lots which previously had been designated
as an Outlot when the preliminary plat was given approval. Mr. Samuels raised the
question as to whether or not this area was for sixty (60) foot lots or seventy (70)
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foot lots. At the time the preliminary plat was given approval, this area was zoned
for 60 foot lots, but it was thought that at the time the zoning map was revised for
the RM District Regulations (70 foot minimum lot size) this area was included in that
revision. Mr. McCullough stated he would investigate and determine what the zoning was
in that area.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Cameron and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-61-4 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the 137th Regular Meeting held by the City
Planning Commission on Tuesday, March 20, 1962 on a request by John
Uznis for approval of the revised plat of Idyl Wyld Subdivision #3
located in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 20, and having considered
the oral report of the Assistant City Attorney that a new public hearing
was unnecessary, and acting pursuant to Section 4.05, the City Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Idyl Wyld
Estates #3's preliminary approval be amended by including therein Lots
numbered 189 through 192, inclusive and 226 through 229, inclusive, the
hardship being that Section 20 and 21 presently have 1169, 7200 sq. ft.
lots either preliminarily or finally approved;
The members were advised that the plat was originally approved on June
6, 1960 pursuant to Ordinance #268 which became effective October 12,
1959.
Mr. Charles Forrest was again questioned by Mr. Arthur Samuels as to
whether this approval was proper. Mr. Forrest examined Section 4.05
and advised the Planning Commission that the correct procedure was to
recommend to the City Council which would ultimately determine minimum
lot size.
Mr. Walker stated the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Watson, and unanimously adopted.
it was
#3-62-62 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the 137th Regular Meeting held on Tuesday,
March 20, 1962 and to a request dated March 16, 1962 from Clarence
R. Charest for a one-year extension on the approval of the preliminary
plat of the Idyle Hills Subdivision located in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section lu, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant said request
subject, however, to all conditions prevailing on the preliminary
approval.
Mr. Walker stated the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Mr. McCullough: The next item on the agenda is a request for additional funds in
order that four members of the Planning Commission may attend the ASPO
Convention at Atlantic City, New Jersey from April 28th to May 3rd,
1962.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Anderson, supported by Mr. Cameron and unanimously
adopted, it was
#3-63-62 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby request that
the City Council appropriate the sume of $1,092.00 to the Travel &
Education Account for the purpose of sending four of its members to
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Atlantic City, New Jersey on April 28, 1962 through May 3, 19u2 to
attend the American Society of Planning Officials Annual Convention.
Mr. Walker: The motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted.
Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Kane, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 137th Regular Meeting
held on Tuesday, March 20, 1962 at approximately 10:05 p.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
W. E. Okerstrom, Secretary
ATTESTED:
Char es W. Walker, Chairman