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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1963-04-16 • - - 3696 MINUTES OF THE 149TH REGULAR MEETING AND A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA On Tuesday, April 16, 1963 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held the 149th Regular Meeting and a Public Hearing at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman, called the 149th Regular Meeting to order at approximately 8:05 p.m. - -• Members present: Edward Milligan, Robert L. Angevine, W. E. Okerstrom, Milton Ingold, Charles W. Walker, and James Cameron Members absent : #Dennis Anderson and **Dr. Daniel Allen Mr. David R. McCullough, City Planner and Mr. Charles Forrest, Assistant City Attorney were present along with approximately 100 interested persons in the audience. Mr. McCullough announced the first item on the agenda is Petition M-278 by Harry A. Norber requesting approval to erect several units of apartments on property located approximately 300 feet south of Seven Mile Road and Clarita in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 12. Public Hearing 4/2/63, item taken under advisement. Mr. Norman Gallant, 17614 W. McNichols, Detroit 35 and Mr. C. Sherman were present with Mr. William Ponder, their attorney. Mr. Ponder explained that since the petition was filed, Mr. Gallant has taken over the development of the apartments. Mr. Harry Norber was no longer interested in this petition. He stated they had thought that Scheme A was the preferred plan but since talking with Mr. McCullough they had been convinced that Scheme B was a better plan. W. Ponder concluded by stating that 2 questions had been raised by the Planning Commission at the study meeting. Cne was the "tot lot" and the other was the "service drive". He did not understand about the "tot lot". Mr. Walker explained that the Planning Commission preferred having a tot lot where there were apartments for the children who lived in the apartments. This would keep them off the streets. Mr. Gallant stated they thought it was an excellent idea and that perhaps in the vicinity of the pool would be the ideal location for the tot lot. As for the service drive they would go along with the suggested driveway. Mr. McCullough stated they had agreed also to the greenbelt as shown on Sketch B. Mr. Walker stated to Mr. Gallant that the Planning Commission office had heard that they were negotiating to sell this property. There was a question of whether the new owner would be satisfied with the plan as presented tonight. It was felt that it would benecessary for the new owner to come in for approval if he changed the 111, plans, . Hr. ,Gallant stated that he would still be connected with the development and that they were definitely going ahead with the project as presented to the Commission. i Mr. Walker asked if they intended to change the plans in any way if it is sold to someone else? Mr. Gallant stated they were fairly well committed to go along with the plans as shown. Mr. Ingold asked if the exterior walls would be of face brick? Mr. Gallant answered they would be. Mr. Milligan asked if the rubbish receptacles would be obscured? Mr. Sherman, who 3697 .is the architect, stated they were going to be obscured by decorative walls. #Mr. Dennis Anderson arrived at approximately 8:25 p.m. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Cameron, supported by Mr. Milligan it was #4-54-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public.Hearing having.been held on Tuesday, April 2, 1963, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-278 by Norman Gallant requesting approval to erect several units of apartments on property located approximately 300 feet south of Seven Mile Road and approximately 200 feet east of Middlebelt Road between Seven Mile Road and Clarita in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 12, as it related to Site Plan "B", dated March 5, 1963, subject, however, to the following: (a) the private driveway to be extended northerly to the west of Building F, to the north of and parallel to Building G and to the east of Building H, thereby permitting service vehicles to load and unload nearer the buildings; (b) a greenbelt approved by the Department of Parks to be erected as shown in green on Sketch B; (c) all exterior walls to be of face brick; (d) a rubbish receptacle area shall be provided around each cluster of buildings and the same shall be obscured; (e) a tot lot of 1200 sq. ft. shall be provided near the pool and equipped in accordance with the instructions of the Department of Parks and Recreation. FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Ingold, Cameron, Milligan, Anderson, Angevine and Walker NAYS: Okerstrom Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-279 by Alma Sigman and F. Hunter seeking approval to fill in a flood plain on property located on the southwest corner of Middlebelt Road Munger in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14. Public Hearing 4/2/63 item taken under advisement. Mr. McCullough submitted a letter dated April ]6, 1963 from William J. Strasser, Chief Land City Engineer which states that the petition should be denied for the reason that at the present time the Engineering Department is unable to advise the Planning Commission definitely of what areas are required for flood plain purpcses and will not be in the position to do so until the proper engineering study has been completed. The letter also stated that the City Council has initiated steps to make this determination by means of an application under the 701 planningprogram and it is expected that the City's 701 application will be approved in the near future so that the study can proceed. Mr. Hunter and Mr. Sigman were present. 3698 Mr. McCullough stated that this is really not a denial but a delaying action. The photographs have been taken but the full arrangements have not been completed as to making payment for these photographs. II: Mr. Walker asked Mr. Hunter if they understood about the delay? Mr. Hunter answered they did but they wanted to know where the money was coming from for this study? Mr. McCullough answered that 75% of the money would be coming from the federal government and the balance from the City. Mr. Walker informed the petitioners that the City was very much concerned about the filling in of flood plains. It must be done on a whole and not piece meal. The City must consider the flood plain coming in and going out of the City and in order to do this a complete study has to be made of the entire flood plain area through- out the City. Mr. Hunter asked if it is found out that the City wants 200 ft. off of his property would they condemn this property and reimburse the property owner? Mr. Forrest answered it depended upon the circumstances. The City can tell the property owner not to build upon it but if they take it over completely, they would have to compensate the property owner. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ingold, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously adopted, it was 1 j #4-55-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on Tuesday, April 2, 1963 the City Planning Ccmmission does hereby deny Petition M-279 WITHOUT PREJUDICE of Alma Sigman and F. Hunter seeking approval to fill in a flood plain on property located on the southwest corner of Middlebelt Road and Munger in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14, for the reasons set out in Mr. William J. Strasser's letter dated April 16, 1963. FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-280 by L. Lobbestael requesting approval to erect a church on property located on the east side of Parkville between Vassar and Seven Mile Road approximately 350 feet north of Seven Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1. Public Hearing 4/2/63, item taken under advisement. IIMr. Fred Hanson was present for the petitioner. I Mr. Hanson was asked if the petitioner would agree to limiting the driveway to one-way traffic. Mr. Hanson stated they would agree to this. He also stated that their plans called for a flat roof and face brick exterior. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Angevine and unanimously adopted, it was 3699 #4-56-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on Tuesday, April 2, 1963 the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-280 by L. Lobbestael requesting permission to erect a church on property located on the east side of Parkville between Vassar and Seven Mile Road, approximately 350 feet north of Seven Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 1, subject, however, to each driveway being restricted to one-way traffic, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. Mr. Ingold asked if it would be possible to make the roof pitched instead of flat so that it would resemble the surrounding homes? Mr. Hanson answered that they would agree to a pitched roof instead of a flat roof. Mr. Okerstrom stated that the Planning Commission could suggest that it be a pitched roof but they could not force them to do so. Mr. Walker stated the minutes will record that the petitioner is willing to build the church with a pitched roof A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Ingold, Ccmeron, Milligan, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and Walker NAYS: None Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Angevine, supported by Mr. Milligan and unanimously adopted, it was #4-57-63 RESOLVED that, having considered the request from the City Council dated March 11, 1963 (Resolution #153-63) regarding correction of certain street names in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 12, the Wayne County Bureau of Taxation should be advised that Arcola and Cavell Streets in Garden Farms Subdivision should be changed to Pershing and Foch Avenues respectively and that Page 45 of the County Tax Maps should be revised to bring them in line with the City of Livonia Maps and the Maps of the Wayne County Road Commission. Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Milligan, supported by Mr. Okerstrom and unanimously adopted, it was 1 #4-58-63 RESOLVED that, having considered the request from Henry Koloff Builders, for a year's extension on the preliminary approval of Koloff's Sunnyside Estates #3 located on the north side of Schoolcraft Road approximately 1,000 ft. West of Gill Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 21, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant said request, subject, however, to all conditions prevailing on the preliminary approval. Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolutinn is adopted. 3 700 Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was a request from E. Schubiner for approval of revision of Ellen Kay Subdivision located north of Five Mile Road between Cavour and Sunbury in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13. Mr. E. Schubiner was present. Mr. McCullough explained to the Commission that Mr. Schubiner has requested that Garden Street north of Betula now designated as a stub street on the preliminary plat be changed to an Outlot. He has suggested that this outlot be held in abeyance for any reasonable time the Commission states in the event that the proposed subdivision north of the Ellen Kay Subdivision is developed and this outlot is needed for a street to the other subdivision. In the event the subdivision north of Ellen Kay is not developed within that time this out lot will be reverted back to the developers of the Ellen Kay Subdivision. A pedestrian cross walk has been designated at the easterly end of the subdivision to be used in lieu of the street as access to the school immediately north of the Ellen Kay Subdivision. Mr. Schubiner has also suggested paving only half of Cavour. Mr. McCullough stated the Council is not approving half streets. Mr. Schubiner felt it would be quite expensive to pave the Garden Street stub especially if it is found later •that it is not needed. They preferred to pave it at the time it is needed. After a brief discussion the Planning Commission decided that it would be advisable to leave the stub as shown on the preliminary plat. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Milligan, supported by Mr. Anderson, it was #4-59-63 RESOLVED that, having considered the request of Spalding, DeDecker & Associated, dated March 22, 1963 for certain revisions on the Ellen Kay Subdivision located on the North side of Five Mile Road between Cavour and Sunbury in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine that the request is (1) denied completely as to permitting half paving on Cavour and (2) denied as to creating an outlot from the extension of Garden north of Betula Because this extension of Garden is considered necessary for school access purposes and it links up with Roycroft thus eliminating Roycroft as a dead end street. Moreover, pedestrian cross walks are generally only useful until such time as a house is erected on either side of the crosswalk at which time the owners begin demanding that the crosswalk be eliminated. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Ingold, Cameron, Milligan, Anderson, Angevine.and Walker NAYS: None NOT VOTING: Okerstrom 1140 j Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-272 by Russel Hidden requesting approval to build a travel agency office building to be used for the administrative offices of the agency, representing airlines, steamship and railroad companies for executive and professional travel counseling. This building is located on the west side of Farmington, approximately 300 ft. north of Roycroft between Roycroft and Rayburn in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 16. Public Hearing 2/5/63 item taken under advise- ment; Regular Meeting 2/19/63 item taken under advisement; 4/2/63 item taken under advisement. 3701 Mr. Russel Hidden was present along with Mr. Charles Allen, his representative. ti Mr. Hidden agreed to the building having a pitched roof, there being no large picture windows and any sign erected being no larger than 10 sq. ft. in area. He also stated that the exterior walls of the building would be of marble chip construction. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Ingold, supported by Mr. Cameron and unanimously adopted, it was #4-60-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on Tuesday, February 5, 1963 and having considered the request of Russell Hidden, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-272 requesting approval to build a travel agency office building and does hereby determine that said travel agency is an administrative occupation within the meaning of Section 9.52 and further resolved, that the City Planning Commission in making this determination is mindful of the express representations to erect a building with marble chip exterior walls, a non-flat roof, only small windows within the front wall and a sign of not greater than 10 sq. ft. in area, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property owner within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Ingold and unanimously adopted, it was #4-61-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, Ordinance No. 60, the City Planning Commission does hereby establish and order that a public hearing be held to determine whether or not to amend Section 8.02 (d) of Article 8.00 RUF District Regulations so as to prohibit "dog kennels" from being a permitted use in the RUF District; such change,if made, however, not to effect dog kennels in existence in RUF Districts on the date such amendment becomes finally effective, and FURTHER RESOLVED, that a hearing be held and notice be given as provided in Section 20.01 of the Zoning Ordinance, Ordinance No. 60 of the City of Livonia and that there shall be a report submitted and a recommendation thereon to the City Council. Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. IIIUpon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Cameron, it was #4-62-63 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the minutes for the meeting held on Tuesday, March 19, 1963 except for that member who was not present, he abstain from voting. AYES: Ingold, Cameron, Milligan, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and Walker NAYS: None Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. • • 3702 II: Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Anderson and unanimously adopted, it was #4-63-63 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a request dated April 4, 1963 from Nelson Homes, Inc. , for a year's extension on the preliminary approval of the Denmar Estates Subdivision located on the north side of Six Mile Road between Wayne and Newburgh in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 8, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant said request, subject, however, to all conditions prevailing on the preliminary approval. Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Milligan, supported by Mr. Ingold and unanimously adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 149th Regular Meeting held on Tuesday, April 16, 1963 at approximately 9:15 p.m. Mr. Walker called a recess at approximately 9: 16 p.m. * * * * * * * Mr. Walker, Chairman, called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 9:30 p.m. with all those present now who were present at the time recess was called**Dr. Daniel Allen arrived during recess. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition Z-582 by Mary Lou Carrol requesting the rezoning of property located on the west side of Haller approximately 1125 ft. north of Plymouth Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24, (three lots with a total width of approximately 180 ft. are located on the west side of Haller at the point where Haller deadends) from R-1B to M-1. Mr. Leonard Hyman was present representing the petitioner, Mary Lou Carrol. He said it was their intention of erecting a light industrial building with offices in the front portion and a tool shop in the rear. The parking would be on the north side of the building or what is now the dead end of Haller. This abuts the General Motors property. He continued by stating there are existing residences on the west side of Haller. These residences are on lots with widths of at .least 60 ft. , the bulk of these lots being much larger. On the east side of Haller there are also houses but the character of the east side is substantially different. The lots are deeper and immediately to the rear of these lots is an area zoned PS for the Livonia Convalescent Home located on Plymouth Road. The owner of this convalescent home also owns property on the east side of Haller. He stated that immediately to the rear of the property in question is Shopper's Fair property. The building abuts at the rear of six residences and also the property in the petition. The front portion of the Shopper's Fair property is parking area and it abuts the remaining residentes IIto Plymouth Road. He said it was their thought that this proposed tool and die shop and office building would be a buffer between the residences and the General Motors property. The proposed building would be of a high class type construction. There would be nine employees working only a normal eight hour day. He stated they did not think the addition of this business would be deleterious to the residences in the area. Mr. Walker asked if this business was existing elsewhere? Mr. Phillip Barth, real estate agent for owner of property, stated it presently did exist in Hamtramck. Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak? . 3703 Mr. Robert Beaupied, 11865 Haller Road, stated that everyone on the street is opposed to the rezoning. It is a dead end street and it is thought that this business would create a traffic problem. He stated a year ago there had been talk about urban renewal in the area. They would prefer this to the rezoning. Mrs. Homer Long, 11805 Hailer stated that a couple of years ago they had been assured that there would be no change in this area. It is felt now that to allow this rezoning would be spot zoning. Mr. Harold Zucke, 11627 Haller, objected to the proposed rezoning and to the petitioner taking photographs of his home: Mrs. Long stated her objections to the rubbish and refuse behind the Shopper's Fair building. Mr. A. Hoover, 11921 Hartel, verified Mrs. Long's statement regarding the rubbish and refuse. Mrs. Long stated that the General Motors property at the dead end of Haller, is used for a baseball field and a football field, this area being leased from General Motors by the City. There are a large number of children going back and forth because of this field. It was felt that a factory of this type would only add to the already existing traffic problem in the area. IIIMr. Hyman stated there would be no refuse or paper involved with this type of business. They were not responsible for Shopper's Fair's property. The area in the petition could be used for three houses. They intended to put up one building. It is to be a high class tool operation with a maximum of 9 employees. He stated they felt they could prevent what is presently happening on the Shopper's Fair property by an adequate greenbelt. Mrs. Wanda Klos, 11760 Hallen, objected to the rezoning because of the many small children in the area. She stated if there was to be any rezoning, the whole area should be taken into consideration. Mr. Walker asked for a show of hands of those in the audience who objected to the rezoning. There were approximately 9 hands raised. Mr. Okerstrom asked if it was possible to have an entrance to this property from Middlebelt instead of Haller, would there still be objection to the rezoning? The objectors stated yes. Mr. Walker asked if the objectors were objecting to the rezoning because it is spot zoning? Mr. Beaupied stated theywould prefer the whole area being taken - not just three lots. Mr. Walker stated this item would be taken under advisement. It will be discussed further at a study meeting after which it will be brought back for action. He Ila suggested that a person be appointed as a representative for the objectors and that person will be notified as to the date of the meeting when action will be taken. 1 Mr. Robert Beaupied stated he would be the r* resentative for those property owners who object to the proposed rezoning. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on thea genda is Petition Z-583 by Doyle Tippett, etal, who is requesting the rezoning of property located approximately 280 ft. West of Farmington and approximately 425 ft. south of Plymouth Road in the 3704 Northeast 1/4 of Section 33 from RUFB to R-3. Mr. Doyle Tippet, Mr. Charles Cannon, Mr. Elmer Mallon and Mr. R. Gabrial were present as petitioners for Z-583. Mr. R. Gabrial spoke on their behalf. Mr. Gabrial stated that they were not entirely prepared as to the apartments. They had originally thought of 96 units. The mortgage company recommended a different plan. They had planned .on a balcony type construction but they objected to this. The apartments would be of face brick construction and there would be parking fvr two cars per unit. Before going any further, they would like to have the proper zoning and then they would continue with the project. Mr. Walker stated that the Planning Commission would only consider the zoning at this time. Later the apartments would have to be approved at anotherpublic hearing. Mr. Gabrial stated that they will prepare plans to conform with the requirements of all city ordinances. He stated they want to take this property and develop it into something useful and place it on the tax rolls so that it will tenefit the whole city. They felt that by putting in a road off of Farmington Road it will open up all the property presently landlocked. He stated that there were no homes on the property at the present time and the area contained approximately 25 acres. Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak? Mr. William A. Roberts, 10791 Farmington Road stated he felt this was spot zoning. He preferred to leave this area RUFB. This property abuts his property. Mr. John Pasanen, 33593 Plymouth Road stated he was in favor of the rezoning. He lived next door to the Big Boy Restaurant on Plymouth Road. Mr. Gabrial stated he did not feel this was spot zoning since it was a form of residential and not commercial. Mr. J. St. Cyr, 10811 Farmington, submitted a letter written by Mrs. St. Cyr, objecting to proposed rezoning. Mr. Walker stated this item would be taken under advisement. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on theagenda is Petition M-281 by Stan Turner requesting approval to conduct open air sales on property located on the south side of Seven Mile Road between Myron and Irving on Lots 14 through 20 of the Seven Mile Super Highway Subdivision located in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9. Mr. Stan Turner was present with Mr. P. Barth who was representing him. Mr. Barth informed those present that the total frontage was 120 ft. Mr. Turner proposed to use 80 ft. for the nursery sales and the balance of 40 ft. for parking. He stated there were no homes immediately adjoining this property. Mr. McCullough stated that the drawing was revised so that the parking would be in front instead of on the west side of the area. Mr. Barth stated the building would be 32' x 22' and would consist of cinder block construction with a brick front. There would be sanitary facilities inside of the building. Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak? • 3705 Mr. Richard Iltis, 33610 W. Seven Mile Road asked if this was strictly for the sale of nursery stock and garden supplies? . - Mr. Stan Turner replied that this was correct. There would be no fruit or vegetable stand. No gravel would be sold only a small pile of peat moss but this would be enclosed by railroad ties as all other stock will be also. He stated he is planning to be open approximately 9 months out of the year. Mr. Anderson asked if there would be landscaping service also? Mr. Turner stated there would be but there would only be one small pickup truck for this, no other trucks. Mr. John McClelland, 28720 W. Seven Mile Road, stated he owned the small insurance office next to the property in question, and he could see no objection to this use. Mr. George Hauses, 33567 W. Seven Mile Road, stated he owned the Hardware store on the Southwest corner of Myron and Seven Mile Road. He asked if the southeast corner would be used strictly for parking? Mr. Turner stated that the orignal plan called for parking on this corner but that Mr. McCullough suggested revising the plan so that the parking was in front of the business. It is probable that this area will be used for storage of the larger trees. Mr. Hauses asked if this could be used for other open air sales in the event that the nursery sales falls through? li: Mr. Walker answered that the approval given tonight *ould be for nursery open air sales. It is the opinion of the commission that if anything else is sold that the petitioner would have to come back for an amendment to the original approval. Mr. Herman J. Gould, 26530 W. Six Mile Road, stated he arced the five lots immediately west of Hauses Hardware. He could see nothing wrong with this use. He felt it would improve the property much better than in its present condition because of the brush and weeds. Mrs. R. Iltis, 33610 W. Seven Mile Road, concurred with Mr. Gould. Mr. Walker stated this item would be taken under advisement. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition M-282 by Robert J. Hawthorne requesting approval to use property for a golf driving range located north of Schoolcraft Road approximately 700 ft. east of Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24. This is to be located between Cloverlanes Bowling and the property on the northeast corner of Middlebelt and Schoolcrqft Roads. Mr. R. J. Hawthorne was present. He explained this property was located immediately west of Cloverlanes Bowling and it ran westerly for a distance of 600 ft. The use is somewhat temporary. He plana. to use the property until such time that the Wilson II family obtainsa buyer. He has a 5 year lease with them. Mr. Walker questioned the sanitary facilities which would be available. Mr. Hawthorne stated that he plans to have a trailer parked on the property which would house the sanitary facilities. He said that the plumbing inspector informed him if the Planning Commission would approve the overall plan that the Building Department would agree to the sanitary facilities he has in the trailer. Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak? 3706 Mr. H. Gordon, 17614 W. McNichols, stated he was representing the Gordon Begin Builders. They own considerable property adjacen t to the property in question. He stated they felt that this proposed use would be a serious interference with the normal operation of their business. They seriously object to the proposed use 3 of this property. He stated they have homes abutting this property 'in question. Mr. Fred Cox, 14382 Sunbury, representing the Compton Village Civic Association stated he was there to object to the type of use because of the lights, traffic and other nuisances. The Civic Association did not feel the depth of the property was sufficient to provide for a driving range and it would create hazards of golf balls in their area. Mr. Hawthorne stated he could not see why this would be a nuisance to the surrounding area. He agreed that the lighting could be a nuisance but it was possible to direct the lights away from the residential area. Mr. Chris Youngjoha, attorney for the Cloverlanes Bowling, Inc. , 2861 Penobscot Building, Detroit objected for the reason it was felt that the golf balls could cause damage to the cars in the parking lot immediately adjacent to this property. He suggested that the owner put up some sort of barrier to present this. Mr. Hawthorne stated it would be useless to put a fence on the north line to stop the golf balls and he has yet to see a fence which would keep the children out. Dr. Allen questioned the use of the trailer. Mr. Hawthorne explained that due to I[: the shortness of the season it would not be feasible for him to Luild a permanent structure and connect to the sanitary sewer. He would have a self-contained septic tank. Mr. Okerstrom stated that considering the . trailer and the parking area will take up some of the property, the distance left for the driving range would be only about 215 yards and that is only a Par 3. Mr. Walker stated that the commission will have to take into sonsideration that Mr. Hawthorne will have only temporary sanitary facilities. He asked Mr. Hawthorne if he could comply with some type of screening if the commission requested it? Mr. Hawthorne replied that a certain amount of screening could be done, for instance 30 or 40 feet. If more than that is requested it would become impracticable. His plan had been to have the golf balls driven toward the northwest of the property which would be away from the Cloverlane Bowling Alley and away from Gordon Begin property. Mr. Gordon stated if a use affects the next door neighbor it should not be allowed. Mr. Walker declared that this item would be taken under advisement. Mr. McCullough announced the next item on the agenda was Petition M-283 by the II: Cheyenne Building Company requesting approval to erect a Drive- in Restaurant on property located on the north side of Five Mile Road between Merriman and Bainbridge (in the Meri-Five Shopping Center) in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 14. Mr. Harry Spoon was present for the petitioner. He stated this was a McDonald franchise. There would be no outside help. The proposed building would have a full basement. There would be sanitary facilities and the parking would be all around the building. The area was 180' by 130' . • 3707 Mr. Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience who wished to speak? Mr. Daniel Zolkower, 31038 Roycroft objected to the proposed use. t Dr. R. Ruggerole, 31017 Roycroft objected to the proposed use also. He stated McDonalds were open for twenty-four hours a day or at least until 2:00 A.M. He felt there would be a noise problem, a light problem and a rubbish problem. It was pointed out that this proposed area did not abut -against anything. It fronted on Five Mile Road with a large area between it and the center at the rear. Mr. Spoon stated the lighting would be reflected away from the residential homes. All rubbish would be picked up and would not be burned on the property. Mr. M. Donahoo, 31039 Roycroft object to the proposed use. He stated he felt it would be only a place for hot rodders. Mr. Walker declared this item would be taken under advisement. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Okerstrom, supported by Mr. Angevine, it was #4-64-63 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the public hearing held on Tuesday, April 16, 1963 at approximately 11:00 P.M. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: li: AYES: Allen, Ingold, Cameron, Milligan, Anderson, Okerstrom, Angevine and Walker Nast None Mr. Walker declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. CITY PLANNING COMMISSION l I / 11%� i k. L. Angevine ecretary ATTESTED: -....e I` I W alalt‘d Charle W. Walker, Chairman