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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1964-09-15 4282 4282 MINUTES OF THE 166TH REGULAR MEETING AND A PUBLIC HEAR/NG OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVCN IA On Tuesday; September 15, 1964, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia, held the 166th Regular Meeting and a Public Hearing at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman, ceslled the 166th Regular Meeting to order at approximately 8:11 p.m. with approximately ten interested persons in the audience. Members present; Raymond W. Tent Charles W. Walker Donald Heusted James Cameron Bob R. Whitehead Peggy Anne Miquelon Members absent; Robert L. Angevine In the absence of Robert L. Angevine, Secretary, Peggy Anne Miquelon acted as Secretary pro tem. Messrs. Don Hull, Planning Director and Harry C. Tatigian, First Assistant City Attcrqey were present. Mrs. Doris Bachman, Traffic Commission, was also present. s Mi(2 ion announced the first item on the agenda is Petition M-326 by A, J.. Erwin for Shell Oil Company, requesting approval to erect a i==s :rine service station on property located on the Southeast corner of r'lve Mile and Merriman Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 23. Put lIr; Hearing, 8/25/64. Study Meeting, 9/8/64. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Whitehead, and unanimously adopted_ at wilt,. #9_171--4,' -p qmpx5D that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held Augur; 25, 1964, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant Petition M-326 by A. J. Erwin for Shell Oil Company, requesting approval to erect a gasoline service station on property located on the Southeast corner ofFive Mile and Merriman Roads in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 23 subject to the following: ( I) A service ramp on Five Mile Road to be located 10 feet farther back from the intersection, and • ''%1 A 6 foot wood knee along the property line to screen the ,..sting residence from the service station. The fence should extend 10 feet past the front of the building . towards Five Mile Road and terminate at the South boundary r,i` the site, and FLSn ry2 RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property ownera within 500 feet, petitioner, and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairr.o Ma. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution IL aJCptd. Mr vim arced the next item'on the agenda is Petition Z-651 by the .e__anning Commission on its own motion on the question whether or not to rezone the prppprty located approximately 660 feet East 4283 of Harrison Avenue and 400 feet North of Lyndon Avenue (if cut through) in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 24, from RUFB to RM. Public hearing, 25/64. Study Meeting, 9/8/64. Mr. William Ponder was pre sent. Mr. Hull informed commissioners that he discussed this item with Mr. Henry Gordon, Gordon-Begin _nvestment Company, and that his representative, Mr. Ponder, would like to comment Mr. Ponder reviewed the history of this request for change of zoning. Stated that in his client's opinion, 60' lots are feasible in area but will agree to rt-01 lots as requested in petition. Mr. Tent suggested that if 60' lots are feasible and 70' lots are agreeable, wouldn't 80v los be better. Mr. Ponder stated that this is a transitional area. With the area in general and the type of building in area, felt 60' lots would be comparable. area. Buckingham Village Subdivision and Comptom Village Subdivision both have 60' lots in them. . There are large pencil-strip lots in this area. It is net economically possible to go beyond 70' lots. Mr. Whitehead no. stioned the amount of acreage in.Como Lake property. Mr. Ponder stated there is 1O..-12 acres. Mr. Walker asked whether Gordon Begin Investment Coi any owns property in question or do they havo an option to buy. Mr. Ponder stated the agreement is subject to change of zerr;o -Mr, Cameron 4r. David Meinzinger whether there is only 10 acres in Como Lake area. M . nolnzinger stated this is true. Mr. Hull stated there is 13.9 acres in Coro Take area but there is considerable metes and bounds property in area. State ;: , , =e is approximately 38-40 acres in the entire area. Mr. Walker sugged Mr. Hull as Planning Director prepare proposed land use for the entire are=.., QUestioned whether Mr. Hull had discussed his recommendation with Mr. Gordon... Mr. Hull stated he has. Mr. Walker :Informed Mr. Ponder that, from studying this petition, the City Planning Co..,..,, at this time would have to deny this request for change of zoning based on the fact that the commissioners are dissatisfied with the land use. Howe7or, ii- the entire area is looked into as a package, including all undeveloped lands a study may prove commission right or wrong. This may be the solution for the situation. Mr. Ponder .; +, 1 that if there is some way problem can be worked out would rather h>e delayed tha.? denied. Mr. Walker askewA1i.. Ponder if he had any objection to holding this request under advisemer.` .ommission open up entire area for study and possible rezoning. Directed Mr, i-lul:" to look at entire area, including area under discussion, to see how it can be worked out for land use. Mr. 1l ,lker a:ne �:-ed that Petition Z-651 would be taken under advisement. Mrs. that the next item on the agenda is Petition V-79a by : :tnley H. Kline and Ruby Kline, requesting the vacating of the West 4 feet of a 20 foot wide easement of Lot 70, Librance �11bdivision located north of Greenland Avenue approximately • IL: 4284 1270 feet West of Middlebelt Road and approximately 1100 feet east of Henry Ruff Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14. Public Hearing, 9/1/64. Study Meeting, 9/8/64. The petitioner nor a representative was present. Mr. Cameron questioned whether letter from Mr. William J. Strasser, Chief City Engineer, that was mentioned by petitioner at the Public Hearing granting him permission to build home on easement, was submitted to commission. Mr. Hull stated that Mr. Strasser denied that there is such a letter and the petitioner has not filed same. Mr. Tent stated granting all these vacating requests, commission is going to get itself into trouble. Mr. Walker stated that he and Mr. Hull discussed this problem and possibility of notifying the Bureau of Inspection how commission feels about this and that it is not going to continue to go along with violations of easements. Commission does not want to be put into this position too often whereby resident has completed building and then finds building on existing easement. However, to deny this request would be an undue hardship on the petitioner. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Whitehead, seconded by Mr. Heusted, and IL: una .mously adopted, it was 04-172-64 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a, Public Hearing having been held on September 1, 1964, on Petition V-79a as submitted by Stanley H. and Ruby Kline, for the vacation of the west 4 feet of a 20 foot wide easement in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council thatPetition V-79a be granted for the following reasons: (1) The Engineering Department has stated that no conflict exists with ex isting utilities within the easement, and (2) The description only includes that portion of the easement that is under the garage, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonian-City Post under date of August 19, 1964 and notice of which hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power ComFany, City Departments, petitioners, and abutting property owners as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mrs. Mir,uelon announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition V-81 by Stephan F. Slavik, President of Rouge Building Company, requesting the vacating of a portion of Wood Drive, west of Riverside Drive in the Burton Hollow Estates Subdivision, No. 3. This portion of Wood Drive is located just west of Riverside Drive, approximately 330 feet South of Six Mile Road, in the Burton Hollow Estates Sub- division, No. 3 in the Northwest 1/4 of.Section 16. Public Hear- ing, 9/1/64. Study Meeting, 9/8/64. Mr. David Meinzinger was present* ,. . 4285 Mr. Walker stated that the question is not the easement right-of-way but what commission can do to see that children can cross the revine. Questioned how this can be worked out. Mr. Meinzinger stated as far as he is concerned, Rouge Building Company wants to use the land. Would grant a 10' easement but as far as putting money into a bridge do not see how this can be done. This proposed subdivision does not convey any children from east to west. • Mr. Cecil H. Alford, Assistant Superintendent of Livonia Public Schools stated that the easement would be no good unless there is some means of getting suitable bridge across the revine. A suitable bridge and easement would be acceptable to School District Mr. Walker stated thatthere is a 601 easement now which will be reduced to 101 if petition is granted. A 10' easement will not solve problems. Mr.:Walker questioned what it would cost to construct a suitable bridge across the revine. To get off the ground, Mr. William J. Strasser, Chief City Engineer, will have to get together with the School Board. Mr. Tent questioned size of suitable bridge. Mr. Alford stated he is not an engineer but a culvert as suggested by Mr. Meinzinger would not be suitable. Referred to a 4 - 51 steel bridge to the Coolidge School. Mr. Strasser would 1[: be able to an.s nc.' this better. Stated he would like Mr. Strasser to meet with Mr. Benton Yates to discuss the type of crossing before decision is made by commission. Mr. Walker stated that the type of crossing should be satisfactory to school board inasmuch as they are the ones responsible for children. Mrs. Miquelon questioned whether these are all revine lots. Wondered about the- acceptability of a culvert to the residents. Mr. Meinzinger stated it is nothing but a crossing There is a culvert across Six Mile Road now. Mr. Tatigian stated that the City of Livonia is not oblidged to provide walk weir and they are not liable. But once the City does they do incur a certain amok' .. of liability. CDirmission should be very careful in considering this item. More and more law suits are bi.irg started in this area. If the school child. • should fall, the City could be at fault. Mr. Walker suggested item be directed back to Mr. Strasser and have Mr. Strasser meet with Mr. Alford. Then come back to commission for final determination. Mr. Walker announced that Petition V-81 would be taken under advisement. Mrs. Miquelon announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition Z-649 by Seymour Weissman, President, Dale Investment Company, Inc., requesting the rezoning of property located on the east side of Farmington Road bet ,n Plymouth Road and the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway, approximately 780 feet south of Chesapeake & Ohio Railway in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 27, from RUFB to M-1. Public Hearing, 9/1/64. Study Meeting, Itj 9/8/64. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Cameron, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was #9-173-64 97'27T7D that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been h•: .d on September 1, 1964 on Petition Z-649 as submitted by Seymour Weissman, ,.__ 1:14286 President, Dale Investment Company, Inc., for a change of zoning on the east side of Farmington Road between Plymouth Road and the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway, approximately 780 feet south of Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad, in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 27, from RUFB to M-1, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-649 be granted general Manse the proposed consistent withhtheeis creatiionlofent with the an industriaelt plan and also co which excludes residential uses, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, The Livonian- City Post underedateo the of August 19, 1964 and notice of which hearing was sDetroit Edison Company, the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company, City Departments, and petitioner as libted in the Proof of Ser"ice. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mrs. Miquelon announced the next item on the agenda aeis Peg etitif npZ-654 4y by Wesley and Onahlee Goff, requesting thelocated on the south side of4 oFaf rgo betwion een e RiUmanto Road dAand PublicSunset in Hearingthe Northwest9/1/64. /14. Study Meeting, 9/8/64. Mr. and Mrs. Goff 9/1/ 4• were present. n Mr. Walker suggested that to protect the commission the threestated resoastion that commission is forwarding a scale print showing Commission stated by petitioners and that this be a part of the record in Planning Office as well as the Bureau of Inspection. and 1071 x 1351 • Mr. Goff stated he intends to divide parcel into lots 1061 , 1139, Upon a motion duly made by Mr. l itehead, seconded by Mr. Cameron and p adopted,unanimously � , it was #9_174-64 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on September 1, 1964, on Petition Z-654 as submitted by Wesley and Onahlee Goff for a change of zoning on the south side of Fargo between Merriman Road and Sunset in the Northwest 1/4 of Section the City Planning Commission does hereby 2 from RUFB to RLA, be granted recommend to the City Council that divided linto parcels with less subject to the land not being than 100 feet of width, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the li of k--- official newspaper, The Livonian-City Post undersdateto the Detroit August 19, 1964 and notice of which hearing Michien Edison Oompany, The Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Compan yity Dpgrnments Bell Telephone Company, The Consumer Power Company, and petitioners as listed in the Proof of Service. Mr. Walker Ch?4_rm9T, declared the motion is carried and the forec^ing resolution is adopted. - ,rr,..,.ee_t. 1 I 1:: 4289 Mrs. Miquelon announced the next item on the agenda is request for a one year extension on the preliminaryplat of Idyle Hills Estates #2 Subdivision located in the Southwest 1of Section 16. Preliminary approval granted April 11, 1962. Mr. Clarence Charest, Attorney, 33636 Five Mile Road, Livonia, was p-esent representing the petitioner. Mr. Walker informed Mr. Charest that the commission is going to grant the extension on t he preliminary plat conditioned upon change in wording relating to Outlots E and F reading "dedicated to the City of Livonia for public park purposes and use". Mr. Charest stated he understood that these outlots were to be used for drainage. Did not think public park purposes desirable use as there is no access to outlots. Most of the home owners have used and maintained the revine. Mr. Walker asked if Mr. Charest objects to wording. Mr. Charest stated he does Mr. Hull stated he thought that the wording commission suggests is aimed at an over-all use of open space problem for flood control. The city wants control of flood plain lands. The City actually wants the dedication of it. Mr. Charest stated he would not object to wording if there was an access to outlots but therL> is not. Suggested wording state public use but not "park". Mr. Tatigian stated public use would include park purposes. Mr. Walker asked whether commission could place wording on plat without petitioner's approval. Mr. Tatigian stated he did not think commission could unless petitioner agreed to it. This wording is a substandual change from original wording and commission should have petitioner's approval to change. Mr. Walker asked Mr. Charest if he is going to agree to change of wording as previously outlined. Mr. Charest stated he would agree to dedication for public use but had no further authority. Stated that wording "public park purposes" on the plat would affect the sale of lots. Mr. Walker stated that if there is some question about wording "public purposes" the property owner may contest in court and commission would have to fight for what it wants to do now. Mr. Tatigian suggested "dedicated to the City of Livonia for such public purpose: and uses as may be determined by the City of Livonia". Mr. Charest agreed to Mr. Tatigian's suggestion. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Cameron, and unanimously adopted, it was #9-175-64 RFROLVED that, pursuant to regaest for a year's extension on the Idyle Hills Estates Subdivision, No. 2 located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 16, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant said request, subject, however, to all conditions prevailing on the original prelimimry approval, subject to the Engineering Department reviewing said subdivision plat before the final canvas back plat is submitted for final approval, and subject to wording appearing on Outlots E and F reading "Dedicated to the City of Livonia for such public purposes and uses as may be determined by the City of Livonia". The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution ' " - opted. I[: 4290 Mr. Walker declared that the 166th Regular Meeting would be temporarily cjc_ .. .. in order to open the Public Hearing. Mr. Charles W. Walker, CLairman, called the Pubic Hearing to order at CD-_,-,9:25 p.m. with approximately 80 interested persons in the audience in a : - - to those present for the Regular Meeting. Mrs. Miquelon announced the first item on the agenda is Petition M-323 Messrs. Albert Nelson and Bruce K. Wayne, requesting approval tc erect multiple dwellings on property located on the south sido Five Mile Road, between Brookfield and Fairfield in the Nort!' 1/4 of Section 22. Mr. Rodney Kropf, Attorney, 32510 Plymou-ca Road, was present representing the petitioners. Mr. Kropf stated there will be 50 apartments on four acres of property. acning is R-3. Stated that in June the commission rezoned the front of property to R-3 and that this is the follow-up of client's plan. All o units will be 2-bedroom. There will be a swimming pool and the units r: for $150 up. There is a home south of Five Mile Road which will be dei- [ and property properly graded. Mr. Norman Stockmeyer, 38042 Glenwood, Wayne, stated there are :.cveral m before commission requesting multiple use. Referred to article in news_ regarding Farmington Twp. multiple dwellings in that this type of use h^s much higher tax base and it is not a burden on schools. There is somst feeling that there is something wrong with multiple dwellings. However, planned and developed, multiple dwellings are an asset' to the communi'Gy Mrs. Bachman stated that the area plan does not show dimensions and dri-,L.._. the opposite side of the street. Mr. Krapf stated he would submit such plan. Mr. Walker announced that the Petition M-328 would be taken under advie-..-...' Mrs. Miquelon. announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-330 b, David M. Zack, requesting approval to erect and operate a coin operated auto wash on property located on the north side of Jc Road, approximately 470 feet East of Hartel Avenue in the Sou n. west 1/4 of Section 36. Mr. Zack was present. Mr. Zack informed commission that this would be a four stall, 25¢, do car wash. The cars will come into stalls on the west side and leave on side. Mr. Cameron questioned what stalls are made of. Mr. Zack stated they a. Mr. Tent asked whether car wash wild be used in conjunction with the G-- Service Station. Mr. Zack stated it would and that he leases the gas Mr. Rodney C. Kropf, 32510 Plymouth Road, questioned whether commission regulations governing this type of use. Mr. Walker stated there are no _, he knows of and that this is the first such car wash submitted for comtiE _.' approval. 4291 Mr. Zack stated there is one in operation in Pontiac. Mr. Kropf stated that the City of Detroit passed an ordinance prohibiting this type of operation in City of Detroit. A representative of Austin Oil Company stated there are various service stations in the general area with such a use. Mr. Tatigian informed Commission that there is presently a law suit regarding this location pertaining to the protective wall ordinance requirement. Suggested law suit be remembered in considering request. Mr. Robert Perugi, 14154 Hubbell, representing Austin Oil Corporation, stated they would be happy to comply with ordinance and would erect protective wall along with proposed car wash. Happy to submit a written agreement stating that protective wall will be erected in conjunction with car wash. Mr. Tatigian stated that the attorney, Mr. Paul Fried, is no longer pressing this law suit. It was brought out that Mr. Fried is no longer represc._Ung this particular item and that Mr. Pertgi is now concerned with case. Mr. Walker announced that Petition M-330 would be taken under advisement. IL: Mrs. Miquelon announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition Z-648 by Owen J. and Ruth F. Deuby, requesting the rezoning of property located on the west si,le of Farmington Road, approximately 150 feet north of Rayburn Avenue in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 16, from RM to PS. Mr. Patrick Duggan, Attorney, 32900 Five Mile Road, was present representing the petitioners. Mr. Duggan stated he is requesting to rezone 100' of property on Farmington Road Stated the property immediately adjoining to the South is presently zoned PS The property immediately to the North is not zoned PS b•:t at Myrna Drive it is. Petitioner plans a medical office and parking. Mr. Clarence Charest, 33636 Five Mile Road, stated the private deed restrictions state this property can only be used for residential purposes. Mr. Roy Kennedy, 15805 Farmington Road, was present but ndi objecting to request when explained. Mr. Walker announced that Petition Z-648 would be taken under advisement. Mrs. Miquelon announced the next item on the agenda is Petition Z-657 by Allan Shelden, III, Shelden Land Company, requesting the rezoning of property located between Woodring and Loveland, approximately 240 feet south of Plymouth Road and adjacent to the R3 zoning on the east side of Farmington Road, in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 34, from C-2, R-2, and R-1 to R-3. Mr. Warren Shelden was present rep_'ese1"ng the petitioner. Mr. Shelden stated that this is the balance of the property south of Plymouth Road. Stated that Shelden Land Company owns all the residential property on the east side of Loveland and also the residential property that abuts property described :r y .'��ion to the south. 4292 Mr. Gerurd Brisse, 9909.Loveland, stated he purchased home in 1953 and that at that time a representative of the Shelden Land Company assured him that there would be nothing at the end of Loveland except a shopping center and that there would be a green strip separating the residential property from shopping center. Stated he did not like to see request for change of zoning especially from the same representative that sold him his home. The homes along Loveland are not well- maintained at all. Some do not even cut their lawn more than once a year. If Shelden Land Company intends to maintain their multiple units as they maintain homes along Loveland, there will be a downward trend. Mr. A. J. Newkirch, 9921 Roseland, agreed that Shelden Land Company does nit maintain good housekeeping standards. Stated the type of people that will rent units are the type that cannot afford to buy a home. Residents have been sold a bill-of-goods and thought Shelden Land Company should take inventory of itself. Mr. Brisse stated he would like to see a library in the area. Hated to see football and playfield go. Suggested area be purchased by the City of Livonia for a park. Mr. R. A. Gientke, 10005 Mayfield, stated he has owned his home for 13 years and betted commission for protection. The Shelden Land Company has done nothing to improve their rental homes in all the years. Plymouth Road is known as the worst traffic road in area. Mr. Sheldon Rose, Bishop Construction Company, 14900 Linwood, Detroit, stated most of the property is zoned C-2 and request is upgrading to R-3. Regarding the rental units - when a home is rented the individual tenant maintains the home however, in the case of apartments the apartment owner maintains the apartment or has someone hired for thispurpose alone. The individual tenant is not responsible to maintain apartment unit. Apartments are rented not just by irresponsible people but young, marrieds, oldsters, etc. Read portions from Study on the Effect of Apartments in City of Livonia, prepared recently at request of City Council Resolution #961-63 adopted Decembrr 18, 1963. Mr. Newkirch stated apartment units will concentrate a lot of people in a small area. Questioned capacity of Rosedale School and sewers. Mrs. C. 1. Hoheisel, 9910 Woodring, asked whether there will still be 3-bedroom units. Mr. Tent stated that at the study meeting this objection was presented to Sheldon Rose and the commission is going on the assumption that there will be no 3-bedroom nits. Mrs. Hoheisel stated there is a traffic hazzard now. Did not think park area sufficient for number of units. Mr. Carl Hoheisel, 9910 Woodring, objected to petition as presented. Mr. Shelden stated that because there is no left hand turn at Farmington Road and Plymouth Road, a lot of people turn at Wndring instead. Mr. Joe Luxmer, 9920 Woodring, stated that iJan does not continue through, there is going to be more traffic. Also coft reed about capacity of sewer Mr. Lewis Simon, 9924 Roseland, was present objecting to request. Mr.,. Walker announced that Petition Z-657 would be taken under advisement. 4293 Mrs. Miquelon announced that the next item on the agenda is etition Z-659 by the City Planning Commission, pursuant to Industrial Commission request, requesting the rezoning of property located on the west side of Merriman Road, approximated 550 feet north of the centerline of the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway and approximately 1730 feet South of Schoolcraft Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 27, from M-1 to M-2. Mr. Daniel R. Andrew, Coordinator, Industrial Development Commission, stated request concerns the south half of the Newman Farm area. Stated that the building (80,000 square feet) that will be erected will be for lease and owners are not sure of exact use. This area is 4004 north of railway. There was no one present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to petition as presented. Mrs. Miquelon annuunced that the next item on the agenda is Petition Z-656 by Melvin B. Rosenhaus, Mel Construction Company, requesting the rezoning of property located on the North side of Ann Arbor Trail, between Levan and Wayne Roads, just east of the cemetery and across the street from the New-Joy Subdivision in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32, from C-1 to R-3. The petitioner was present. Mr. Rosenhaus: stated that they intend to retain as much of the natural beauty as possible. There- will be 72-75 apartments and a swimming pool. Mr. John Muir, 36026 Dover was present seeking information. Mr. Jerry Holden, 35992 Dover questioned how this change would benefit residents in area. Mr. Rosenhaus offered to show anyone interested the type and quality of construction the Mel Construction Company has built in other areas. Mr. Walter Sherman, 36206 Lawrence, questioned whether petitionelioter of property. Mr. Rosenhaus stated they own property. Mr. Holden stated there is a high point in the road at this section and that it is already a traffic hazzard. Anywhere the entrances are located to apart- ment units will create an additional traffic hazzard. Mr. Ray Ludwig, 35963 Ann Arbor Trail, questioned whether children would be allowed in units. Mr. Rosenhaus stated inall other apartment units no children have been allowed and there will be no children allowed in this development. Mr. Everett Brannan, 8977 Linville, stated this will be an additional traffic hazzard. There is no commercial in area. Would rather see area rezoned to residential. Mr. Robert Dixon, 8965 Linville, was also concerned about curve and traffic hazzard. IL: Mr. William Pettengill, 8954 Linville, questioned what is allowed under a C-1 and R-3 zoning classifications. Suggested commission look into water supply inasmuch es their pressure drops during summer months. Mr. Holden suggested there be a traffic survey and that the engineer look over problem ?i area. 4294 Mr. Robert Deters, 35951 Ann Arbor Trail, referred to pond and that it is a health hazzard and that if this is to be considered natural beauty of area it will require a 3 otof cleaning up. There is only stagnant water there during summer. Suggested survey be made to see that it isn't just a breeding place for buts, etc. Mrs Walker announced that Petition Z-656 would be taken under advisement. Mrs. Miquelon announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition Z-658 by Earl D. and Antoinette O'Hara requesting the rezoning of property located on the South side of Plymouth Road approximately 320 feet East of Eckles Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 30, from RUFB to C-2. Mr. Patrick J. O'Hara was present representing the petitioners. Mr. O'Hara stated they intend to build on the adjoining lot (west of existing building) for a catering business. All of the operation that is now conducted in the home will be done in the new building. Have operated business from the home since 1950. Mr. Arthur Melton, 39293 Plymouth Road, stated he had no objection to request. If. Walker announced that Petition Z-658 would be taken under advisement. IC 'Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Whitehead, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was #9-179-64 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the Public Hearing held on Tuesday, September 15, 1964 at approxi- mately 11:25 p.m. Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is ^dopted and the Public Hearing is adjourned. Mr. Walker rce3nvened the 166th Regular Meeting at approximately 11:25 p.m. with all pres:.nt as previously listed. Mrs. Miquele' ?renounced that the next item on the agenda is consideration of a motion to hold a Public Hearing to determine whether or not to adopt a Master Sanitary Sewer and Drain Plan as Part IX of the Master Plan. Mr. David Joy-G, Water and Sewer Commissioner, stated that there will be three phases of the Master Plan: The Water Distribution System, The Storm Sewer and Drainage System, and The Sanitary Sewer System. With the adoption of this Master Plan the City of Livonia will have all three main utilities on a Master I: Plan. Mr. Tatigian G+ated that in the event at some future date the City of Livonia has to resort to ci'ndemnation, it is essential that the City of Livonia has a Master Plan which should be done now. The commission should act on each separate plan in three separate resolutions. If each phase is done separately, it can be amp,,r'ed easier.in the future. 1 1[400 4295 Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Whitehead, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was #9-180-64 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Act 285, Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to conduct a Public Hearing on the subject of the adoption of Part IX of the Master Plan and related documents, which Master Plan is also known as the Sanitary Sewer System, and FURTHER RESOLVED, this notice is given to the public by publication in the official newspaper of the City of Livonia and by registered United States Mail to each public utility company and to each railroad company owning or operating any public utility or railroad within the City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan, in accordance with the provisions and requirements of Act 285, Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mrs. Miquelon, and unanimously adopted, it was I: #9-181 -64 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Act 285, Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to conduct a Public Hearing on the subject of t'.e adoption of Part X of the Master Plan and related documents, which Master Plan is also known as the Storm Sewer and Drainage System, and FURTHER RESOLVED, this notice is given to the public by publication in the Official newspaper of the City of Livonia and by registered United States Mail to each public utility company and to each railroad company owning and operating any public utility or railroad within the City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan, in accordance with the provisions and requirements of Act 285, Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Cameron, and unanimously adopted, it was #9-182-64 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve minutes of meeting held August 25, 1964. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, Declared the motion is carried and the foregoing If: resolution is adopted. Mrs. Doris Bachman presented for commission's information and inspection a 1 (41J 4296 Traffic Study illustrating 60' right-of-way with 27/, 31', and 36' pavement and how the pavement width affects the passing and parking of today's automobiles. Stated the Traffic Commission is definitely opposed to the 274 paving. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, supportedby Mr. Cameron and unanimously adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 166th Regular Meeting held on Tuesday, September 15, 1964 and Wednesday, September 16, 1964 atapproximately 12:30 a.m. CITY PLANNING COMMISSION Y Pe:: , ne Miquelon, Se. -tart' pro tem ATTESTED: IL ,40001> L.' �i , // Charles W. Walker, Chairman IL {