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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1965-01-05 • 465 MINUTES OF THE 194TH SPECIAL MEETING LAND A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING CQ MISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA On Tuesday, January 5, 1965, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held the 194th Special Meeting and a Public Hearing at the Livonia City Hall, 33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman,called the 194th Special Meeting to order at approximately 8:15 p.m. with approximately 25 interested persons present. Methers present: Bob R. Whitehead Harry Henry Wrightman John J. Ward Donald Heusted Donald C. Pollock Charles W. Walker James Cameron Raymond W. Tent Members absent: None Messrs. Don Hull, Planning Director; John Nagy, Assistant Planning Director; and Harry C. Tatigian, First Assistant City Attorney were present. Mr. Whitehead announced the first item on the agenda is Petition Z-664 by Mary and Michael Genson requesting.the rezoning of property located on the west side of Farmington Road and approximately 450 feet south of Seven Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9, from RM to C-1t for professional beauty salon. Public Hearing 11/17/64, Study Meetings 11/24/64 and 12/1/64. Mr. and Mrs. Genson were present. Mr. Tent questioned whether the property north of area in question will be rezoned at a later date. Mr. Walker stated it would :mot and that the individual that ovns the property would like the commercial zoning but he (Mr. Walker) felt commission should leave zoning clarification as is because at a later date this may have to be rezoned to parking for existing commercial buelnesses. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Whitehead, and unanimously adopted, it was 0--1-65 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 17, 1964, on Petition 2664 as submitted by Mary and Michael Genson for a change of zoning on the property located en the 'est side of FarmingtonRoad and approximately 450 feet south of Seven Mile Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9, from RM to C-i for professional beauty salon, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council the Petition Z-664. be granted subject to a minimum of ten (l0) parking spaces for the following reasbhs: (1) It is a good land use in this area, and (2) The requirements of the C-i zoning category limit any use within this district VI five employees. The parking ratio as stipulated in our ordinance is ttah (2) parking spaces per each dperatdr. An analysis of the site indicates that ten (10) parking spaces can be provided depending upon the size of the proposed building, anti (3) This land is no longer suitable for high calibre residential development because of the proximity of Farmington Road which will be widened to five lanes and which will carry a tremendous volume of transient traffic, and 466 FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, liNorlian Observer and City Post, under date of October 21, 1964 and notice of which hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, The Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumers Power Company, petitioners and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. Whitehead announced the next item on the agenda is Petition Z-668 by Aram Kevorkian who is requesting the rezoning of property located 345 flet west of the Southwest corner of Merriman Road and School- craft Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 27, to enable erection of a multi-family units, from C-1 to R-3. Public Hearing 12/15/64. Mr. Kevorkian was present. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Wrightmanand unanimously adnpted, it was #1-2-65 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hegiing having been held on December 15, 1964, on Petition Z-668 as submitted by Aram Kevorkian for a change of zoning on the property located 345 feet west of the Southwest corner of Merriman and Schoolcraft Roads in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 27, to enable erection of a multi-family units, from C-1 to R-3, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition Z-668 be denied for the following reasons: (1) The freeway acquisition line will substantially decrease the size of this site and could conflict with the proposed development, and (2) The area under consideration lies within the industrial belt as indicated on our land use plan, and this type of use should be excluded from the industrial belt, and (3) The quality of living generated by this type of development within the industrial belt and immediately adjacent to a freeway would be low, thus the economic stability of this project is questionable, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was published in the official newspaper, Livonian Observer and City Post, under date of November 11, 1964, and notice of which hearing was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, The Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company, The Consumers Power Company, petitioner, and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Mr. Whitehead announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 1-333 by Joe Niestray for Atlas Neon Company, requesting approval to erect an oversized sign on property located on the Southeast corner of Eight Mile Road and Grand River Avenue in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 1. Rublic Hearing 12/15/64. The petitioner nor a representative was present. 4367 Mr. Hull informed commissioners that this particular sign is not inviolation of the sign ordinance but Section 4.44 of the existing Zoning Ordinance which stipulates any structure in excess of 35 feet requires Planning Commission approval. Mr. Wrightman stated he did noteel this proposed sign would add to area. The station is a snail one. If station was a super-large station, the sign might be appropriate; however, the sign is large and it would be out of character with the other signs in the area. Mr. Klock informed commissioners that he saw the existing sign that petitioner mentioned at public hearing which is located at Canfield and Woodward Avenue in Detroit. Thought this sign out of scale at this location and thought it would be even more out of scale here in Livonia. Mr. Whitehead stated that from the northwest direction the station is hidden from view and would not be seen until driver of car has passed it. For this reason can see petitioner's problem as he has to attract the driver before driver gets to station. W2ln driver comes across Eight Mile Road doubted if sign would be seen. This sign wruld effect people on the northeast side of Grand River Avenue only. Thought commis ion should give petitioner opportunity to submit an alternate sign of another height that would be acceptable to commission and petitioner . Mr. Wrightman stated that it is unlikely that driver will see sign unless it is above building. Question is whether or not petitioner will want to revise the height of the sign. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Cameron, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was #1-3-65 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held December 15, 1964, the City Planning Commission does hereby deny without prejudice Petition M-333 by Joe Niestray for Atlas Neon Company, requesting approval to erect an over-sized sign on property located on the Southeast corner of Eight Mile Road and Grand River Avenue in the Northeatt 1/4 of Section 1, for the following reasons: (1) This 60 foot sign is of excessive height and will detract from the adjacent development, and (2) Granting a sign of this height in this location would establish a dangerous precedent, and (3) The signs of other service stations in this general area are not this high;,,and (4) This sign is not only in violation of the existing Ordinance, but also is in violation of our proposed Ordinance, and (5 The sign is out of scale with the actual service station site because it is a rather small station, and FURTHER RESOLVED, notice of the above hearing was sent to property owners within 500 feet, petitioner, and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service. The Chairman, Mr. Walker, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. 4368 Mr. Whitehead announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-334 by David N. Hoffman, requesting approval to erect a church on property located on the east side of Henry Ruff, between Greenland and Puritan Avenue in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 14. Public Hearing 12/15/64. Messrs. Clarence R. Charest, Attorney, 33636 Five Mile Road; and David N. Hoffmann, were present. Mr. Charest stated that this is a limited use building. It is limited to 160 members. it is not a growth building and there is adequate parking on the premises. The building will be used only two days a week.- It is the new propoL:,,. ordinance that requires two acres for a church site. This site is 1.7 ac. The requirement of two acres is unnecessary for this congregation. Because the size of the congregation is limited, do not have funds to buy several acres of land. Henry Ruff Road is designated to be a secondary road. Thought it would benefit this congregation and the City of Livonia as a whole if commission would grant request. Believed there is nothing detrimental to request. Mr. Tent stated it is true that this is a non-growing congregation but is anything preventing this group from selling building to another church group will not be non-growing. This could happen. Mr. Charest stated almost anything can happen so it would be foolish to represent to commission that it is beyond the realm of possibility. However, the history of gr¢ups of this type have been very standardized. It could happen but not this particular church group. Mr. Hoffmann stated possibility of this happening is remote. An unidentified man informed commissioners that the congregation is held at 160 persons and if the number exceeds 160 members some are picked to form another congregation in another building and location. Mr. Wrightman questioned whether this is what is happening now. Mr. Hoffmann stated this is correct. Mr. Wrightman stated petitioner is 3/10 acre short of ordinance minimum requirement. Asked whether there has been any action taken to secure this 3/10 acre and if not is it possible to get this additional land. Mr. Charest stated clients have not endeavored to obtain additional land. Did not think it available from the abutting property owners. Mr. Walker stated it would be detrimental to the interest of the Planning Commission's two years work in preparing an ordinance to divert from ordinance even before it is adopted. Commission is in charge of ordinance and has to liic up to it. Cannot spell out each denomination. Two acres for a church site is t�1_. minimum and is not the standard. If a large church presented a petition, commission might suggest five acres. Two acres is the minimum on any church. Mr. Charest stated he would rather commission hold item over in order to allowr them opportunity to seek additional land. Will try but doubted success. Mr. Hoffmann stated for three years group hasvorked with Planning Commission trying to secure suitable site in Livonia. Group has worked hard and long to locate this site. Mr. Hull stated this will be a 58 car parking lot area. There is proposed to be a strip of black-top right up to the lot line to existing residence. This resident is in close proximity to east line. Parking along the back is possible, Open for any suggestions for redesigning area. 4169 Mr. Ward suggested finding another site. Petitioner has worked with previous Planning Director, Mr. McCullough, but not Mr. Hull. Mr. Hull stated he would L be willing to work with petitioner in any way. Mr. H. W. Curtner, 30062 Puritan, Livonia, stated he had no objection to church. Mr. Walker announced that Petition Z-334 would be taken under advisement in order to allow petitioner to look into possibility of securing the minimum of two acres. Mr. Whitehead announced the next item on the agenda is letter dated December 17, 1964 from Solomon Bienenfeld, requesting an extension of use of an existing structure on Seven Mile Road and Osmus until July 1, 1965, for religious purposes. Mr. Bienenfeld was present. Mr. Bienenfeld stated this is an existing farm house used by the Livonia Jewish Congregation. Group has just purchased the St. Matthew's Church building located at 29475 Six Mile Road. However, cannot take poss'ssion of this building until St. Matthew's completes construction of its new building. They plan to have building completed in April, 1965 but we are reqs' sting extension until July, 1965. As sgon as St. Matthew's moves, the Livonia Jewish Congregation will move in. Stated property they are using now is up for sale. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was #1-4-65 RESOLVED that, City Planning Commission does hereby grant request dated December 17, 1964 from Solomon Bienenfeld for an extension of use of an existing frame structure on Seven Mile Road and Osmus for religious purposes for a period not to exceed the balance of 1965 only or at the period of St. Matthew's Church of Livonia vacating the property at 29475 Six Mile Road. Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Cameron, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, and unanimously adod, it was #1-5-65 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve minutes of meetings held Novemter 17, 1964 and December 1, 1964. MF. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution is adopted. Upon a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Whitehead and unanimously adopted, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the 194th Special Meeting held on Tuesday, January 5, 1965 at approximately 9:15 p.m. Mr. Walker, Chairman, called the Public Hearing to order at approximately 9:30 p.m. with approximately 50 interested persons in the audience in addition to those present for Special Meeting and Mr. Daniel R. Andrew, Coordinator, Industrial Development Commission. Mr. James Cameron was not present for the Public Hearing. 4870 Mr. Whithead announced the first item on the agenda is Petition Z-671 by Joseph A. Bojanczyk who is requesting the rezoning of property located on the east side of Merriman Road between Plymouth Road and Orangelawn in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 35, from RUFB to PS. Mr. Bojanczyk was present. Mr. Walker asked whether petitioner had anyone in mind to use property for which change of zoning is requested. Mr. Bojanczyk stated he had three or four persons very, much interested in site. Mr.Wrightman questioned size of hospital. Mr. Bojanczyk stated no particulir size but that it would be used for emergency purposes etc. Mr. Pollock questioned telephone company building. Mr. Bojanczyk stated telephone Company property is north of area in question. Mr. Hull questioned what would be done with five existing residences on property. Mr. Bojanczyk stated they would be torn down. Mr. Edward Pinardi, 11040 Arden, submitted petition with approximately 110 residents objecting to petition. Stated reason people signed petition is that they wish to keep area residential. Stated home at 11815 Merriman rec4trtly sold three times (twice very recently` and that the last two times there was a profit of $1,000 each time. Referred to fact there is no left hand turn at Merriman and Plymouth Roads and that traffic by-passes this by turning left at Merriman and Elmira to Arden and then North of Plymouth Road. Mr. Walter G. Green, 11431 Merriman, stated he has had no problem getting out of his drive-way either with the bank traffic or road traffic. Stated there is an existing hospital at Middlebelt and Joy Roads area and that in talking with these doctors they are not interested in another hospital in a4ea. Change of zoning will cause more traffic hazard on Merriman Road and will reduce the value of property. People are permanent residents on Merriman Road and if they do sell it will be at a loss. Mr. Wilho Mauno, 11021 Merriman Road, stated existing residents will take loss on property if this request is granted. Mr. Robert Kelly, 11323 Merriman Road was present objecting to petition. Mrs. Arthur Keene, 11415 Merriman Road, stated she was turned down within the last month for a conventional loan for the reason that road was too heavily travelled. Mr. KeithyPhelps, 11329 Merriman Road, stated he wanted to keep property residential fo rtohich it was designed. Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that Petition 2-671 would be taken under advisement. Mr. Whitehead announced the next item on the agenda is Petition V-82 by W. Warren Shelden, requesting the vacation of property located east of Farmington Road and north of Schoolcraft Road in Kimberly Oaks Estates Subdivision, No. 3. Mr. James Murphy was present representing the petitioner. 4271 Mr. Murphy stated they wish to move the storm water easement 404 west in order to obtain larger lats. ILONo one else was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to petition as presented. Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that Petition V-82 would be taken under advisement. Mr. Whitehead announced the next item on the agenda is motion by the Planning Commission to amend the Master Thoroughfare Plan so as to provide for the extension of Hubbard Road southerly from Schoolcraft Road to the C & 0 Railroad in the North half of Section 27. Mr. Ward suggested Hubbard Road be designated through to Plymouth Road. Mr. Walker stated this would be done only to the railroad at this time. Out- lined utlined plans of a road pattern in area that had been discussed some time ago. Mr. Hull stated this is a petftion that was first initiated by the Industrial Development Commission for this commission to entertain question. This is what they requested at that time mainly for the fact that they want area more accessible for industry. Crossing railroad will have to be considered in the fixture. Leaving large open area not gives potential user better area to work ii.th without a clbud on title. Mr. Andrew stated that this request fall in the area of advance planning. Hubbard Road is a half dedicated (434 . Get this on the record now so that it is connected with freeway. No one else was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to petit ion as presented. Mr. Walker, Chairman, annount ed that Petition to amend the Master Thoroughfare Plan would be taken under advisement. Mr. Whited announced the next item on the agenda is Petition M-337 by David Arkin, requesting approval to erect an A & W Drive-In Restaurant on property located on the Northeast corner of Middlebelt Road and Roycroft approximately 850 feet north of Five Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13. Mr. Arkin was present. Mr. Hull stated that from a physical examination of the site, it will require considerable amount of fill. Mr. Whitehead asked whether there will be any conflict between noise of Drive-In and convalescence home. Mr. Arkin stated he thought the traffic noise would reach home well before noise from Drive-In. In addition the convalescence home is sot back off of road considerable distance. Mr. Tent c-^7tioned how control of traffic would be handled within drive-in. Referred to cars coming into drive-in and circle,.: around building and out into road again. Mr. Arkin stated Roycroft is the prime entrance and there is movement there. Mr. Tent suggested another drive-in that controlled this problem by place . nt of cars and aisles. 4372 Mr. William Lindhout, Architect, stated considering the 60' set back of the building, it created a tight condition for cars under the canopy. or. Pollock asked whether there would be music through a loud speaker and ders taken from cars over speakers. Mr. Arkin stated he did not intend to have music. Planning a seven months operation. Mr. Tent questioned fencing and landscaping. Mr. Lindhout stated there is an existing fence on the north boundary line. A protection wall is not required on the east but there is a warehouse wall. Mr. Arkin stated he did not plan to have loud speakers for orders from cars. Reaching for sales to family rather than just drink and school trade. Mr. Hull pointed out that Roycroft is a residential street. Suggested no traffic on Roycroft and turning building so that ingress and egress is onto Middlebelt Road. Mr. Lindhout stated that plan abides by ordinance and that in order to do what Mr. Hull suggests, there is a problem of the canopy. Mr. Walker stated he thought it would be better to have Middlebelt access because Roycroft is a dead end street and it dead ends into school property. Also Roycroft is an unimproved street. Mr. Ward questioned 60, set back. Mr. Walker stated that was cone to assure parking. The canopy is considered part of the building because it is a permanett attachment and a supported structure. Mr. Walker suggested petitioner get together with Mr. Hull and come up with plan that will keep traffic off of Roycroft and control the circular traffic through the property. Mr. Whitehead asked how many A & W Restaurants are located in Livonia now. Mr. Arkin stated there is just one other one. No one else was present wishing to be heard either in favor of or opposed to petit ion as presented. ivir. Walker announced that Petition M-337 would be taken under advisement. Upon a motion duly made by Mr.Tent, seconded by Mr. Wrightman and unanimously adopted, it was #1-6-65 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn the Public Hearing held on Tuesday, January 5, 1965 at approximately 10:45 p.m.. Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the Public Heating is adjeurned. CITY PLANNING CO la SSION "41116-)r.:411: Whitehead, : a�►, Whitehead, Se. reta-ry ATT • LU, z,e}eedzti Charles W. Walker, Chairman