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14; MINUTES OF THE 227TH SPECIAL MEETING AND
PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING C0144ISSION
OFTHE CITY CF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, November 1s 1988 the City Planning Commission of the
City of Livonia held the'22/+h Special Meeting and a public hearing
at the Livonia City Halls 33001 'P ive 'I4ile Road, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr, Charles W. Walker, Chairman, Called the public hearing to order
at 8:40 p.m, with approximately SO interested persons inthe audience.
Members Present: Charles W. Walker Raymond W. Tent Mrs,Mimi Singer
Harry Wrightman Marvin Moser Donald Heusted
Mrs.Myra Chandler John J.W and Donald Pollock
Messrs. Don Hull, Planning Director; John J, Nagy, Asst.Planning
Director; David Perry, Assistant City Attorney; Daniel Andrew, Industrial
Coordinator were also present.
Mr.. Walker announced that the first item on the age[da is Petition
66-10-1-30 by William N. Ponder for Donald E. Green and
Lloyd J. Dunn to rezone property located approximately
210 feet south of Six Mile and approximately 260 feet west of
Middlebelt Road in Section 14 from RUFA to C-2.
MMr, Ponder was present to represent the petitioners in the matter,
Mr, Walker asked why the petition was being made for C-2 zoning and
what plans there were for the use of the property.
Mr, Ponder first introduced the first Mayor of Livonia, Jessie Ziegler,
to the audience and then proceeded to describe the surrounding property,
he stated that there was C-2 to the east and west of the property as
well as north of it. He stated that certainly no one would build a
residence on this parcel inasmuch as it is surrounded with business,
Mr. Walker asked what type of business the petitionersrare in, and'
would this be to expand same,
Mr. Ponder said the petitioners are in the heating and plumbing business,
that the building would be owned by them but leased out, assuring the
Commission that it would be a use consistent with C-2 zoning but does'
not know right now what it would be as there is no prospective tenant,
Mr, Tent asked if the zoning petition is granted, how soon would the
petitionellsbuild,
Mr, Ponder stated that if the zoning petition were granted by the
Commission and Council, which would then have to be put in ordinance
form and adopted, probably taking until January or February 1967
before completion, the petitioners would start building in the spring,
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Mr, Wrightman spoke about the, re3tetiraht business to be built on
Middlebelt Road, south of Six Mile Rod which property abuts the
land here involved and asked Mri Ponder if the parking arrangement
for both businesses couldn+t be worked out together so that
these two projects would not turd intO a hedge-page development
for the area and both could have egress and ingress from and to both
mile roads.
Mr, Ponder said their building would be to the front and parking to
the rear and he would contact Mr. Moy to discuss this.
Mr, Kropf, Mr. Moy's attorney, was in the audience and said that
his client anticipated commencing construction early in the Spring
and he would contact Mr. Ponder on this matter.
Mr. Nagy pointed out on the map that there is a small area of isolated
RIF zoning immediately east of this petition and if the Commission
favorably considers this petition they might on their own motion
consider that isolated parcel to be rezoned to round out the entire
area. This piece is north of Mr. Moy's parcel.
Mr. Walker asked who owns the property.
Mr. Hull said that he did not know at the present time.
Mrs. Chandler asked if the owner wouldn't have anything to say about
rezoning.
Mr. Walker said yes, but this should be looked into and the owner
advised of what they are doing with the entire area,
Mr. Hull stated that if it is the wish of the Commission, the Department
will check into the property for ownership, find out their intent as
far as use of same and how the package fits in in the total development.
Mr. Walker announced that this matter would be taken under advisement.
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Mr„ Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 66-8-1-24 by Gene Harris Jr. requesting to rezone
property located at the southeast corner of Clarita and
Farmington Road in.Section 10 from R-1 to PS
Mr. Robert Thompson, was present as attorney for petitioner. He stated
that Mr, Harris presently occupies a building and carries on an insur'nce
business on Farmington Road, south of Seven Mile Road. He stated that
the property in question is low land, which would require backfill;
there is an unsightly drainage ditch through the property; the depth
is only 100 feet which is 20 feet less than the minimum requirement for
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1110 R-1 zoning; that with the exception of three homes to the south it is
isolated from residential homes; that the property to the north is
PS and to the west is PS and therefore petitioner feels that this strip
of land could also be PS, He further advised the Commission that
petitioner's building would be an insurance office and possibly a legal
office as well; further, that the building would have a residential
appearance and would complement the area,
Mr. Wrightman asked why petitioner had not looked at parcels already
designated for PS zoning in the City.
Mr. Thompson said that when the petitioner purchased his propertyi,
the aforesaid surrounding lands were already PS; that all other property
so zoned was too high; he stated that petitioner needs 280' in length for
the best use of this property.
Mr, Wrightman asked when this property was purchased,
Mr. Harris stated, approximately one year ago.
Mr, Hull stated that the area north of Clarita on the east side of
Farmington Road was zoned PS at least 21 years, that it was true that
the area on the southwest corner of Clarita was zoned within the last
year.
Mr. Tent asked about the property across the street,
Mr, Thompson said it was not long enough.
Mr. Tent stated that he too felt that there was slot of PS zoned
property in the City which is not being used as such; in fact only
42% is being used. He stated that too many persons come in for
zoning change and when same is granted they do not build and he
would therefore rather the petitioner look at another parcel.
Mr. Thompson said that Mr, Harris has his office south of Seven Mile
Road on Farmington, and many of his customers are in this vicinity
which is why he would like to locate in this area,
Mr, Wrightman asked Mr. Harris what transpired when he was looking
for property - did he look for PS or just buy property figuring
on changing the zoning.
Mr. Harris stated that there was no other PS zoning in the area which
he could use, stating that this was the best available piece of
property for his purpose, He further said that'there was commercial
property in the area but it was too high priced, he could not afford
it, that the property on the west side of Farmington Road was already
spoken for when Mr, Harris was purchasing.
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Mr. Tent asked what type of business will be on the property.
Mr. Thompson stated it will -be primarily an insurance office with the
possibility of a law office.
Mr. Tent asked how many tenants he would have.,
Mr. Thompson said Mr. Harris would vacate the office he now has •
and occupy the new building, possibly with one tenant, an attorney,.
Mr. Ziegler advised the Commission that he owns 440' south of the
property in question, there is a 100'ptrtel between his property and
petitioners; he stated that he had spoken to Mr.. Harris and advised him that
he would be in favor of the entire block going PS.. He stated that with
Farmington'Road being widened to five lanes instead of four, and these
lots being 20' x 100' in depth, that residential building would certainly
not be suitable. He stated that the Commission should possibly consider
the entire block for PS zoning,. inasmuch as the property cannot be sold
for anything else,
Mr. Walker stated that Mr.. Ziegler had mentioned there was a piece of
property between his and Mr.. Harris's.
1[0: Mr. Ziegler stated that the owner of that parcel is also interested in
having the zoning changed inasmuch as it could not be sold for residential.
He stated that he had not contacted anyone south of Pickford, only the
block in question which has three houses (which he owns)..
Mts. Singer questioned whether this should be PS or Commercial.
Mr. Hull said that commercial should have a minimum depth of 200 feet,.
He feels that you cannot develop commercial or PS on narrow parcels of
land. As an example, he stated, on the southwest corner of Seven Mile
and Farmington the people make use of the public right-of-way for parking..
He stated there is inadequate setback._
Mrs. Chandler asked if the depth could be obtained.
Mr. Hull stated that they might purchase the vacated land to the east
but another serious problem arises along a mile road; he stated'that
roads are essentially created to carry large volumes of traffic, when
lined with strip commercial or P.S., developments it might cut down on
the traffic carrying potential of those roads., The numerous points of
vehicular ingress and egress on traffic streets cause a dangerous and
hazardous situation. He added that there would have to be a 40 foot
setback to be in conformance with the ordinance,.
Mr. Hull further stated that each PS development should have adequate
location for the building, with off-street parking outside of the public
right-of-way. The development should also be aesthetically pleasing..
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d Mr, Wright man asked if Mr. Ziegler had any prospective tenants for
his parcel.
Mr. Ziegler answered, no, adding that the land is 110' deep plus a
vacated alley.
Mr. Tent asked why Mr. Deremo had not built on his land.
Mr. Hull stated he did not know.
Mr. Tent stated he would like to have that land brought back and rezoned
to its original classification.
Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 66-9-1-25 by William N. Ponder for Felix S. Kubik
requesting to rezone property located on the northwest
corner of Seven Mile Road and Sunset in Section 2from -
R-3 A to P.S.
Mr. Ponder addressed the aidience and Commission, representing Mr, Kubik,
and explained that this was a 171 acre parcel of land; that they want to
rezone the southerly 1300 feet for PS to allow them to put in a con-
valescent home leaving approximately 1/4 mile from the edge of the
ti property; he advised that Mr. Simpson owns the property to the west whict
is also presently zoned for single family residential. He stated that the
City proposes to create a park which will take about 17 acres of Mr.S impson's
and petitioner's combined property.
Mr. Ponder stated that it was pet itioeit's desire to construct
professional medical offices along Seven Mile Road and a convalescent
home to the rear. Mr. Ponder added that on the City's Master Plan they
wish to extend PS, Commercial, etc. for Sr. Citizens Housing and other
projects and feels that this request falls within the scope of the plan.
He stated that this is an ideal location for a convalescent home because
of the access the people would have to the shopping center, transportation
for guests, etc. He has discussed this matter with Mr. Simpson who opposes
this petition because he feels that his property should also be changed
for possible multiple dwellings in the future.
He added that there is a great need for convalescent homes in Livonia;
the one proposed here would have 105 beds; cost approximately $250p00.00;
provide all services; medical needs for all persons; doctor in attendance
at all times. Mr. Ponder added that there are beautiful homes all around
but that the convalescent home he feels will fit right in and will be
beautifully landscaped and an asset to the community.
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Mr. Tent asked if there were any other convalescent homes in the
immediate area,
Mr. Ponder answered, no.
Mr. Tent asked if Mr. Ponder was familiar with Mrs. Grande's, which is
about 12 miles away from this parcel, He advised him that she had a
problem and asked if Mr, Ponder's client would be willing to put up a wall
along residential property linea,
Mr. Ponder replied that this is a requirement of the law and would be
done.
Mr, Tent wanted assurance that he would not plead hardship before the
Zoning Board of Appeals at a later date so as not to have to put up the
wall.
Mr. Ponder stated that this was no problem - they would comply with the
requirement.
Mr. Ponder added that if Mr. Simpson came in now his land might be
changed to multiple dwellings also,
Mr. Hull reminded him that the wall would be required whether multiple
dwelling or residential.
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Mr. Ward asked how this was to be zoned in the Master Plan,
Mr. Hull stated that it was to'be'neither commercial nor PS, but was
to be residential, 80' frontage, 9,600 square foot lot area; further
stating tht the density would be higher than that of the adjacent land.
Mr. Ward stated that Mr. Ponder felt that this falls within the scope
of the City's Master Study, Since the Master Plan actually left this
residential, he asked Mr, Ponder how he could feel this way.
Mr. Ponder stated that there is slot of PS , Commercial and Industrial
land on the study which will be studied from'time to time and changed
as the Commission feels it best for the City, adding that the people
as well should be considered for changes in certain other areas where
they feel it would benefit the City.
Mr. John Moore, of 19620 Flamingo, presented a petition with 100 signa-
tures requesting that the Commission deny this ratter. He stated that
the residents feel that they are being hemmed in with shopping centers,
industry to the north,etc, ani , owning nice homes, they do not want any
further zoning changes but wish this land to remain residential. This
petition is submitted in behalf of Hillcrest Gardens Civic Association.
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Mr. Richard Doliner, 459 Wimpole, Rochester, stated that Sunset is not a
street, that when they moved in they were promised a street by the '
builder when it could be built; later they were told it would cost $2,500.00
for a small section; that they would have to sign a statement that they
are willing to pay, etc. He further states that the property is landlocked
and that Sunset is a name on a piece of paper, not a street.
At this point there was a general discussion about this matter; Mr. Ponder
was asked if he would work out an agreement to dedicate a portion of the
road.
Mr. Ponder stated that if this petition was approved, he would consider
putting the street through and the people abutting would have access to
same. But, he did not feel it fair to ask him to give up the land if this
petition is not approved.
Mr. Walker asked if this street is shown on the Master Thoroughfare Plan,
Mr. Hull said it is not, that this is what is called a paper street and the
Master Thoroughfare Plan only shows major streets. In the past, people
could develop subdivisions without improvements but now this could not
happen, to install a subdivision nowmeans all improvements as well.
Mr. Tent stated that they would only need an additional 30 feet to open
up the road since 1/2 is already dedicated.
Mr. Walker stated that he felt a very important situation was being
discussed at this meeting,
Mr. Hull stated that a subdivision could be worked out to open the road.
A solution can only be worked out if a person wants to subdivide the
property. Otherwise all they have is a half street.
Mr. H. T. Rork, 19520 Flamingo, in the Hillcrest Gardens Subdivision,
stated that all the property owners in the subdivision had donated 30 feet
for this road and the petitioner hereshould dedicate the other 30 feet.
They would like to see the road opened up.
Mr. Wrightman asked if the Fetitioner would be inclined to dedicate the
30 feet.
Mr. Ponder stated that the property is 300 feet wide; it would beimpossible
to do what is asked and develop for single family homes; the land would
have to lay idle. He suggested that he would give the 30 feet to open
Sunset Boulevard so people could use the street if his client can have
PS zoning - that way Sunset could be paved.
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Mr. Tent asked if Mr. Ponder's client owns the property.
Mr. Ponder replied, yes.
Mr. Tent asked if, in the event they did not approve PS, would the
property owner and the others get together and work out a good subdivision
for this property.
Mr. Ponder felt this would not work out.
Mr. Hull stated that he did not concur with Mr. Ponder that there is
no solution to develop the land into residential homes.
Mr. Ponder stated that a convalescent home would be better looking and
more aesthetic if he were living in the homes to the east than if each
lot there had 3 lots back up to it.
Mxs. Chandler asked if the owner was planning to run the convalescent home
or have someone else do it.
Mr. Ponder stated that the owners are in this business; they own and
operate another convalescent home.
Mr. Walker asked if Mr. Ponder's client would consider dedication and
construction of a street in conjunction with approval of this petition
rather than putting a street in the center of the land.
Mr. Ponder stated there would be no problem of dedication if they get the
requested use.
Mr. Simpson stated that he has owned the property to the east for 20 years;
has tried to sell at one time; had approved use of 60' lots which was
arbitrarily changed to 80' lots; came to City Hall, asked five times why
this was done but was never given a chance to talk. He stated that
Mr. McNamara had advised the Clerk to notify him when this matter came
before the floor but this was never done, the next thing he knew it had
gcne through the entire procedure; he is now opposed to one strip being
approved to PS unless the entire parcel, including his, is changed.
Mr. Walker asked if he would go residential.
Mr. Simpson answered, yes.
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° Mr, Walker asked what he would consider the best use.
Mr, Simpson replied that as it is now he cannot do anything with it
and no one will buy it.
Mr. Walker asked Mr. Simpson if he would be willing to go into a
package deal on this mattes
Mr. Simpson answered, yes.
Mr. Rork stated that there had been a plan to develop homes opening
streets to the east. This had been approved.-
Mr. Simpson stated that when lot size was changed to 80' lots, the
builders dropped the development.
Mr. Walker announced that this matter would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda would be
Petition 66-9-1-27 by the City Planning Commission
requesting to rezone property located east of Osmus approx-
imately 350 feet south of Eight Mile Road in Section 3
from RUFA to M-L.
Mr. Walker asked if there were any property owners interested in this
matter .
Mr. Spencer, owner of lot #30a2, stated that he is opposed to this
petition unless he is assured that Mr. Bucci is going to purchase his
property as well as the other lots involved in this petition. He said
he offered him a fair price and has never heard anything, and the
matter is already before Council.
Mr. Paulson of the North Central Civic Association presented a petition
to the Commission objecting to the Bucci petition, and spot industrial
zoning, and asked that this go on record in opposition to same.
Mr. Robert Hastings, 20220 Parker, also objected to the petition. He
further reminded the Commission that this encroaches on residential
zoning and asked about the people across the street, south, west and
east of the property and what consideration was to be given them; he added
that the Commission had promised this would never happen to them and had
promised them a wall which they now say cannot be built.
Mrs, Sullivan presented to the Commission an additional petition with
560 signatures, objecting to the petition.
Mr. Andrew was asked if he knew why Mr. Bucci or a representative was
not present.
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1: Mr, Andrew said no one was present; that the Rocwall Company had
renewed the option on lots 29a1 and 42 to February 1st, 1967; that
petitioner intended to purchase lots 30a1 and 30a2 if the zoning petition
was successful,
Mrs. Chandler stated that she did not feel this matter should be
discussed any further without a representative for Mr, Bucci, or
Mr. Bucci, being present to answer questions.
Mr, Walker stated that Rocwall contacted Mr. Spencer, who offered
a fair selling price, and asked if petitioner will be prepared to
go back to Mr. Spencer if the petition is acted upon favorably by
Council,.
Mr. Andrew stated that he felt that price has nothing to do with the
zoning petition; that price is a matter between Mr. Bucci and
Mr, Spencer; the City should not be interested in price.
Mrs. Chandler again stated that Mr. Bucci or a representative should be
present to speak in his behalf.
Mr. Walker stated that petitioner was not concerned about the development
until he got the entire parcel of land. As far as being hesitant about
acquiring the balance of the land, Mr. Walker suggested that possibly
(101 the Commission should ask the Council not to act on its previous re-
commendation on Bucci's petition until they know what is going to happen
here. He added that he did not feel Mr. Spencer should have been put
in this position.
Mr. Sullivan stated that one minor point that the Commission is not
taking into consideration is that property owners all the way down to
Middlebelt had voted against this,
Mrs. Sullivan asked if Mr. Isaacson is going to be left there, that he
is north, next to Mr. Spencer; that with all the zoning made industrial
he is just left sitting there.
Mr, Walker stated that the Commission cannot get involved in the
business of seeing that land is sold.
Mrs, Sullivan requested a copy of these minutes.
Mrs. Chandler requested a copy of the minutes of Mrs. Sullivan's Civic
Association but was refused but was advised that their meetings were
open to the public. Mrs, Chandler then requested that the Commission
be notified when their meetings are to be held,
Mr. Walker advised that this item would be taken under advisement.
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Mr. Walker announced that the next item on theagenda is Petition 66-9-1-29
by James E. Mies, attorney for Byron B. and Lillita M.Lewis
requesting to rezone property located on the south side of Six
Mile Road approximately 450 feet east of Oporto in Section 14
from RUFA to P.S. -
Mr. Mies was present in behalf of the petitioners.
He explained theuses surrounding the property in question; the property to
the west is residential; there is a boarding kennel; Louise Street would
be cut in across the street; a proposed location for a Calvary Church;
and he stated that the purpose of their request is for a medical, dental
clinic to be constructed by Dr. Zadeh, who is presently located on Six Mile
Road west of Inkster Road, He advised the Commission that Dr. Zadeh needs
larger quarters with larger parking area; he would build a ranch type
building and proceeded to show the Commission a sketch of the type of
building proposed, stating that Dr. Zadeh's bulling would be larger.
Mr. Mies further stated that they would prefer a few buildings rather than
one, something like the professional village located south of Plymouth
Road on Farmington Road, which would be spaced adequately and give
aesthetic quality.
Mr. Mies further advised the Commission that the Doctor's patients are
from this general area.
Mr. Mies also advised that it was his feeling that this would fit in
the general neighborhood as there is C-2 to the east, their's would be
a lesser category than C-2 which could be a buffer between the house
to the west and the commercial zoning.
Er. Mies added that the parcel is 196' wide, whichis the size they need;
that he did not feel that there would be a traffic problem. He stated
that the proposed building would be 6,000 square feet, feeling that they
are not limited as there is ample space.
Mr. Wrightman asked when he would start to build.
Mr. Mies answered, as soon as possible.
Mr. Wrightman wanted to know if building would be delayed once the
petition is approved.
Mr. Mies stated that after it is finally passed, the plans made and
approved, they would be ready.
Mr. Tent asked if he would be ready to give a rendering for approval of
the architecture.
Mr. Mies answered, yes; the architect is making a sketch to be approved
by the petitioner and the Commission.
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Mr. Mies stated that the building was originally to face Six Mile Road
but since they would like to develop and use the property along the lines
of a professional village, its position might be altered.
Mrs. Chandler asked Mr. Hull if he thought 169' width would be sufficient
for a professional village.
Mr. Hull stated he believes is is possible.
Mr. Wrightman asked if petitioner had investigated any other PS property
already in existence in the City.
Mr. Mies replied yes, he did not know how many parcels he had looked
into but most PS is not this big and he wants this parcel because of its
size and the Doctor resides very near it.
Mr. Joseph Barfield, 29950 Munger, who owns property to the west of this
parcel stated that he could not see why this should abut residential zoning;
that there is other acreage available. He wished to go on record as an
objector.
Mr. Dalessandro, 29970 Munger, also objected to this petition.
Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition 66-10-2-19
by Harper Cunningham requesting to be granted a waiver use
permit to operate a Class C liquor license establishment on
parcel 32J located on the south side of Plymouth Road
approximately 670 feet east of Levan Road in the Northeast
1/4 of Section 32.
Mr, Cunningham was present and showed a sketch of the proposed building.
Mr,. Walker asked if this would be a special type of bar,
Mr. Cunningham said it would not be a shot and beer joint; he added
that this facility will have an upstairs for meetings; room for banquets;
and would hold about 80 people at the most upstairs; downstairs would
hold about 90 people; there would be adequate parking space; the building
would cost approximately $50,000.00 to build.
Mr-. Tent asked if the building would be as that on the sketch,
Mr. Cunningham stated there might be a few changes, such as in the gable,
and stated he would bring in his architectural plans for approval by the
Commission.
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Mr. Cunningham was asked if he would come in to ask for rezoning of C-2
at the rear of the property and he said he will use approximately
340 feet and will let the rear portion sit until he can see what is done
with the RtF zoning next to it.
Mr. Tent asked if he would dedicate 27 feet to the City.
Mr. Cunningham stated that he has a setback of 60 feet from the center
line of the road and the building setback is an additional 60 feet; there
will be some parking in the front and some in the rear.
Mr. Tent again asked if he would dedicate the 27-foot right-of-way.
Mr. Cunningham stated that it has already been done, about fourteen years
ago.
Mr. Don Leeder, of 35898 Leon presented a petition to the Commission
signed by all property owners in the area. The petition was read into the
record. It was also noted that this petition was signed in opposition to
the prior zoning petition, not against this waiver use request. Mr. Leeder
stated that he felt that strip zoning would effect the overall use of the
surrounding property which is mainly residential zoning. He stated that
the real estate developer assured them that this would not happen.
Mr. Hull stated that this is not in any way applicable to this petition
as the property has the zoning and the petition is only for a waiver use.
Mr. Leeder stated that this is felt to be a stepping stone and if the
petition is granted petitioner will come in and ask for the waiver use
on the rest of the property.
Mr. Hull advised the audience that the petitioner could come in and
build any commercial establishments.
Mr. Leeder asked the Planning Commission to outline just what is the
general over-all use of this strip along there and what would ultimately
happen there.
Mr. Hull stated that the reason why the Commission has not acted on the
original petition is that it has not had an opportunity to study the land
zoned commercial in this aea; the department is now in the process of making
this study and hopes to have an over-all plan for the area ready
at some future date..
Mr. Tent asked Mr. Leeder if he objects to the establishment proposed
here or to the use of the property; ' if Mr. Cunningham were to utilize the
property for this type of operation, as shown on the sketch, would the
residents be agreeable to this or are they against bars in general.
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Mr. Leeder stated that he is still afraid the rear will be used for parking;
but he was advised that there is nothing that can be done with the back at
the present time. He stated that he felt that a bar would devaluate the
property surrounding it and that he would never buy next to a bar and raise
his family in sucha neighborhood. He asked if all parking requirements
were met including parking for the banquet room.
Mr. Hull answered, yes; that it must meet the requirements of the
ordinance.
Mr. Walker stated that petitioner originally petitioned for front 1/2 of
the property to build and the rear for parking; that this was turned
down. He added that the present petition meets with all requirements.
Mr. Cunningham stated that after the last meeting he had discussed the
rezoning with the people in the audience at which time they said he
should sell them the back 100 feet of it; however, this he knew the
Planning Commission would not approve; he added that, kiddingly, he
asked how much they would pay and a lady said $100.00; Mr. Cunningham
asked her, per foot? - she said, per lot. He told her that this could
not be done.
r:r, Tent asked the audience what would a reasonable distance from the
back of the property be that they would agree with.
Mr. Leeder stated that he cannot speak for all the people living there.
Mr, Walker stated that only the front portion of this property is being
considered here and advised the audience that their comments would all
be taken into consideration and that a study would be made by the Planning
Department as to what treatment will be given to this land.
Mr. Walker advised that this matter would be taken under advisement,
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda would be petition
66-9-7-11 by the City Planning Commission to determine
whether or not to amend Part I of the Master Plan of the
City of Livonia, the Master Thoroughfare Plan, by removing
all interior roads in the South 1/2 of Section 27,
Mr, Walker asked if there was anyone in the audience wishing to be heard
on this matter. There was no one,
Mr„ Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement.
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Mr. Walker stated that the next item on the agenda was petition 66-9-7-12
by the City Planning Commission to determine whether or not
to amend Part I of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia,
the Master Thoroughfare Plan, to provide for an east-west
road between Farmington Road and Merriman Road in the
north 1/2 of Section 27.
Mr. Wrightman asked the Industrial Coordinator what the purpose of this
petition is.
Mr. Andrew stated that it was to open interior land and possibly service
a future incinerator and sanitary land fill area; he further stated that
Scans Associates and Cast Forge Company had been contacted for access to
Farmington and Merriman Road, respectively, and both have agreed to cooperate
in this matter.
Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda was petition 66-9-6-I1
by the Planning Commission to determine whether or not to
amend Section 18.35(5) of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning
Ordinance to provide for one (1) parking space for each three
(3) beds rather than each two (2) beds.
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Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken underadvisement, there
being no one wishing to be heard on same.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Pollock, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, the
following resolution was unanimously adopted:
#11-162-66 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby
adjourn the public hearing held on Tuesday, November 1,
1966 at approximately 11:15 p.m.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, called the 227th Special Meeting to order at '
approximately 11:35 p.m. with approximately 20 people in the audience.
Mr. Walker announced that the first item on the agenda was Petition
No. 66-10-1-30 by W illian N. Ponder for Donald E. Green and
Lloyd J. Dunn to rezone property located approximately 210 feet
south of Six Mile and approximately 260 feet west of Middlebelt
Road in Section 14 from RUFA to C-2.
Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement.
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Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda was Petition
66-8-1-24 by Gene Harris, Jr. requesting to rezone property
located at the southeast corner of Clarita and Farmington
Road in Section 10 from R-1 to P.S.
Mr. Walker advised that this matter would be taken under advisement;
he stated that this and the adjoining parcels should be studied further;
and the P. S. property across the street (owned by Mr. Deremo) has not been
built on and might possibly be studied for reclassification to its
original zoning.
Mr, Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda was
Petition 66-9-1-25 by William N. Ponder for FeLix S.Kubik
requesting to rezone property located at the northwest
corner of Seven Mile Road and Sunset in Section 2 from
R-3-A to P.S.
Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda was
Petition 66-9-1-27 by the City Planning Commission to
rezone property located east of Osmus approximately 350 feet
south of Eight Mile Road in Section 3 from RUFA to M-L
Mr. Walker stated that this matter would be taken under advisement,
the reason being that a representative was not here to answer questions
and the Commission wants to find out if petitioner intends to take an
option on the property as was the intent under his original petition.
Mr. Ward stated that Rocwall is probably waiting to see what the Council
is going to doand feels if the major part of the parcel is approved
he will purchase the property.
Mr. Tent stated that Rocwall should have already tied Spencer into
the package.
Mr, Hull felt that the entire matter should be tied up at this meeting.
Mr. Walker advised that this matter is taken under advisement.
Mr, Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 66-9-1-29 by James E. Mies, attorney for Byron B, and
Lillian M. Lewis, requesting to rezone property located on the
south side of Six Mile Road approximately 450 feet east of
Oporto in Section 14 from RUFA to P.S.
Mr, Tent asked if Dr. Zadeh has an option on this property.
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: Mr. Mies stated that he had entered into a purchase agreement;
the owners are Mr. and Mrs. Lewis.
Mr. Wrightman asked if Mr. Mies felt certain that the Doctor would
proceed with the building quickly.
Mr. Mies was confident he will proceed as soon as plans are made.
Motion by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mrs. Chandler, was made to
approve this petition.
Mr. Hull advised that if this petition is approved now they will not
need site plan approval.
Mr, Tent stated it should be tabled for further study; .th,ht petitioner
should come in with site plan, etc.
Mr, Walker agreed with this.
Mr. Mies stated he would have the Doctor's architect get in touch with
Mr. Hull regarding the layout and submit what i.. necessary; they will
do everything the Commission requires and get them whatever information
they may want.
ILMr. Wrightman requested permission to withdraw his motion to approve
the petition.
Mrs. Chandler requested permission to withdraw her action in seconding
the motion.
Permission was granted and the Chairman stated that this matter was
taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 66-10-2-19 by Harper Cunningham requesting to be
granted a waiver use permit to operate a Class C liquor
license establishment on parcel 32J located on the south
side ofPlymouth Road approximately 670 feet east of Levan Road
in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 32.
Mr. Walker suggested that this petition be approved to cover only
petitioner's C-2 property.
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Mr. Tent stated he would like to have Mr. Cunningham agree that the
architecture of the structure will conform to the sketch brought in
at the meeting.
Mr. Hull stated he would rather have Mr. Cunningham submit his plans
ILfor approval to the Commission at the time he will build.
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On motion by Mrs. Chandler, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, the following
resolution was unanimously adopted:
#11-163-66 RESOLVED that pursuant to a public hearing having been
held on Novenber 1, 1966 on Petition 66-10-2-19 as
submitted by Harper H. Cunningham requesting to be
granted a waiver use permit to erect and operate a
Class C liquor license cocktail lounge on that portion
of parcel 32J owned by him and presently zoned C-2,
located approximately 660 feet east of Levan Road in
Section 32, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 66-10-2-19
be approved, subject to architectural approval by the
Planning Commission, for the following reasons:
(1) the petition meets the waiver use requirements
of Ordinance ##543;
(2) the zoning is proper to accommodate this type of
use;
(3) petitioner's site plan indicates that the proposed
development can adequately be accommodated on the
existing site;
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above public hearing
was sent to property owners within 500 feet; petitioner
and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr, Walker declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mr. Tent asked Mr. Hull if this area could be studied for the residents
in the area.
Mr. Hull advised the Commission that the Planning Department is
trying to get a study made of this area; he further stated that the
petition on the balance of the property owned by Mr. Harper should
be held pending the completion of the aforesaid study.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 66-9-7-11 by the City Planning Commission to deter-
mine whether or'not to amend Part I of the Master Plan of the
City of Livonia, the Master Thoroughfare Plan, by'removing
all interior roads in the South 1/2 of Section 27.
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On motion by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Moser, the following resolution
was unanimously adopted:
#11-164-66 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been
held on November 1, 1966 on Petition 66-9-7-11 as submitted
by the City Planning Commission on its own motion to determine
whether or 'not to amend Part I of the Master Plan of the City
of Livonia, the Master Thoroughfare Plan, to provide for the
removal of all interior roads within the South 1/2 of
Section 27, such interior roads identified as McKinney,
Bile, Capital, if extended in an easterly direction;
Wadsworth, if extended in an easterly direction; Hubbard,
if extended in a southerly direction; and Berwick, if
extended in a northerly direction, for the following
reason:
(1) the proposed large scale development in this area will
negate the need for an interior road system;
AND, having given proper notice of such hearing'as required
by Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended;
the City Planning Commission does hereby adopt said amend-
meet as part of the Master Thoroughfare Plan, Part I of the
Master Plan of the City of Livonia, which is incorporated
herein by reference, the same having been adopted by resolu-
tion of the City Planning Commission,with all amendments there-
to, and further that this amendment shall be filed with the
City Council, City Clerk, and the City Planning Commission;
and a certified copy shall also be forwarded to the Wayne
County Register of Deeds for recording.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the resolution
adopted.
Mi. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition
66-9-7-12 by the City Planning Commission to determine whether
or not to amend Part I of the Master Plan of the City of
Livonia, the Master Thoroughfare Plan, to provide for an
east-west road between Farmington Road and Merriman Road
in the north 1/2 of Section 27.
On motion by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Ward, the following
resolution was unanimously adopted:
#11-165-66 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been
held on November 1, 1966 on Petition 66-9-7-12 as submitted
by the City Planning Commission on its own motion and pursuant
to a request from the Industrial Development Commission as
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set out in resolution 142-6-66, to determine
whether or not to amend Part I of the Master Plan of the
City of Livonia, the Master Thoroughfare Plan, to provide
for an east-west road between Farmington Road and Merriman
Road in the North 1/2 of Section 27, the proposed east-
west road to be located approximately 900-1200 feet south
of Schoolcraft Road, for the following reason:
(1) there is a need for provision for an interior industrial
road system in this sector of the industrial belt;
AND, having given proper notice of such hearing'as required'
by Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended,
the City Planning Commission does hereby adopt said amend-
ment as part of the Master Thoroughfare Plan, Part I of the
Master Plan of the City of Livonia, which is incorporated
herein by reference, the same having been adopted by resolu-
tion of the City Planning Commission, with all amendments
thereto, and further that this amendment shall be filed
with the City Council, City Clerk and the City Planning
Commission; and a certified copy shall also be forwarded
to the Wayne County Register of Deeds for recording.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the resolution
adopted.
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition
66-9-6-11 by the City Planning Commission to determine
whether or not to amend Section 18.38(5) of Ordinance
No. 543, the Zoning Ordinance, by providing for one (1)
parking space for each three (3) beds rather than two
(2) beds
On motion by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Moser, the following resolution
was unanimously adopted:
#11-166-66 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been
held on November 1, 1966 on Petition 66-9-6-11 as submitted
by the City Planning Commission on its own motion to
determine whether or not to amend Section 18.34(5) of '
Ordinance No. 543, the City of Leonia Zoning Ordinance,
as amended, to provide for one (1) parking space for each
three (3) beds in lieu of each two (2) beds, the City
Planning Commission does hereby recommend that Petition
66-9-6-11 be approved for the following reasons:
(1) the present ordinance requires a parking ratio that is
unreasonable and requires land to be paved that can be
better used for landscaping and outdoor recreation
facilities;
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FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above public hearing
was published in the official newspaper, the Livonian '
Observer and City Post, under date of October 12, 1966,
and notice of such hearing was sent to the Detroit
Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company,
Michigan Bell Telephone Company and Consumers Power
Company, City Departments as listed in the Proof of
Service,
Mr. Walker declared the motion carried and the resolution adopted.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 65-12-1-40 by Joseph B. Monaco requesting to
rezone property located at the northeast corner of
Farmington Road and Lyndon Avenue in Section 22 from RUF
to P.S. for construction'of a nursing home, convalescent home
or a professional center, or a high rise office building.
Mr. Walker stated that this item would be taken under advisement.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, announced that the next item on the agenda is
Petition 66-7-1-18 by Forest Lawrence requesting to rezone
property located approximately 160 feet north of Five
Mile Road approximately 600 feet east of Middlebelt Road
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13 from RTF to P for
additional parking space
On motion by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Pollock, the following resdution
was adopted:
#11-167-66 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been
held on September 6, 1966 on Petition 66-7-1-18 as sub-
mitted by Forest Lawrence requesting to rezone property
located approximately 160 feet north of Five Mile Road
approximately 600 feet east of Middlebelt Road in the
Southwest 1/4'of Section 13 from RUF to P for additional
parking space, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 66-7-1-18
be approved for the following reasons:
(1) it is a logical extension of the existing zoning;
(2) the proposed rezoning can be related to an overall
plan of the area and will not be in conflict with
existing development;
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above public hearing
was published in the official newspaper, the Livonian
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Observer and City Post, under date of August 17, 1966, and
notice of such hearing was sent to the Dettoit Edison
Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan
Bell Telephone Company, Consumers Power Company,
petitioner and City Departments as listed in the Proof
of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES : Tent, Wrightman, Moser, Walker, Pollock, Ward, Heusted,
Singer
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Chandler
The Chairman declared the motion carried and the resolution adopted.
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda was the rescinding
of resolution #9-148-66 regarding the approval of the
final plat for Baloh Subdivision
On motion by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Tent, the following resolution
was unanimously adopted:
#11-168-66 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission hereby
rescinds its resolution #9-148-66 adopted September 6,
1966 inasmuch as the financial obligations due from
Baloh Subdivision to the City by virtue of Council
Resolution 456-65 have not been met.
Mr. Walker declared the motion carried and the resolution adopted.
Mr. Walker stated that the next item to come on the agenda is a
resolution to be adopted regarding the partial platting of two
previously approved preliminary subdivision plats, Judson Gardens
Subdivision and Renwick Park Subdivision..
Mr. Hull explained that the builders had come to the Planning Depart-
ment with this request.
The Commission had a general discussion on this matter, the numbering
of the subdivis ions, etc;
On motion by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Ward, the following
resolution was unanimously adopted:
#11-169a-66 RESOLVED, that pursuant to the request of Rodney
Kropf dated October 21, 1966, 'in behalf of the owners
of Judson Gardens Subdivision, the City Planning
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Commission does hereby approve the amended
preliminary plat of Judson Gardens Subdivision
for the following reason:
(1) the partial proposed plat is in substantial
conformity to a portion of the previously
approved preliminary plat.
#11-169b-66 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the request of Rodney
Kropf dated October 21, 1966, in behalf of the
owners of Renwick Park Subdivision, the City Planning
Commission does hereby approve the amended preliminary
plat for Renwick Park Subdivision for the following
reason:
(1) the partial proposed plat is in substantial
conformity to a portion ofthe previously
approved preliminary plat.
Mr. Walker declared the motion carried and the resolutions adopted.
Mr. Walker announced that the next item on the agenda is Petition
66-4-7-6 by the City Planning Commission requesting to
amend Part I of the Master Plan of the City of Livonia,
the Master Thoroughfare Plan, by modifying the right-of
way width of Wayne Road from Plymouth Road north to the
Chesapeake & Ohio Railroad in Section 28 to 86 feet from
120 feet.
Mr. Dougherty, President of the Livonia National Bank was present.
Mr. W rightman asked him if they are seriously planning to construct a
bank in accordance with the site plan submitted.
Mr. Dougherty stated they had already entered into an"agreement for_
construction of the building and hope to begin work on it in the
very near future, that is 30 to 60 days.
On motion by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Moser, the following resolution
was unanimously adopted:
#11-170-66 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having
been held on May 10, 1966 on Petition 66-4-7-6 as
submitted by the City Planning Commission to determine
whether or not to athend Part 1 of the Master Plan"of
the City of Livonia, the Master Thoroughfare Plan,
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by modifying the right-of-way width of Wayne Road
from Plymouth Road north to the Chesapeake & Ohio
Railroad in Section 28 from 120 feet to 86 feet for the
following reason:
(1) this action will not seriously interfere with the
industrial development of that area;
AND, having given proper notice of such hearing as'
required by Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan,
1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission does
hereby adopt said'amendment as part of the Master
Thoroughfare Plan, Part I of the Master Plan of the
City of Livonia, whichis incorporated herein by
reference, the same having been adopted by resolution of
the City Planning Commission, with all amendments there-
to, and further that this amendment shall be filed with
the City Council, City Clerk, and the City Planning
Commission; and a certified copy shall also be forwarded
to the Wayne County Register of Deeds for recording.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the resolution
adopted.
Mr. Hull stated that after this is done, Wayne Road can be eliminated
but can never be increased.
Mr. Tent asked Mr. Dougherty what type of building they are planning
for this location.
Mr. Dougherty stated it was a two-story structure with an exterior'
of glazed brick; the investment would be between $225,000 and $250,000.
Mr. Pollock stated that during the study of this item he was opposed
to reducing Wayne Road because of its possible need in that area but
was advised by Mr. Andrew that the reduction from 120 feet to 86 feet
would not seriously interfere with the industrial development in that
area. He would like this to be one of the reasons for recommending
approval.
Mr. Hull agreed to this.
Mr. Walker stated that the next item on the agenda was the election
of officers; he advised that this matter would be tabled to the
next meeting.
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On motion by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Heusted, and unanimously
adopted, the City Planning Commission adjourned the 227th Special
Meeting held November 1, 1966 at approximately 12:15 p.m.
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