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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1988-11-22 10409 MINUTES OF THE 569th REGULAR MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA On Tuesday, November 22, 1988, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held its 569th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings in the Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Donald Vyhnalek, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. , with approximately 35 intersted persons in the audience. Members present: Donald Vyhnalek Herman Kluver Sue Sobolewski R. Lee Morrow James C. McCann Jack Engebretson Raymond W. Tent William LaPine* Brenda Lee Fandrei** Members absent: None Messrs. John J. Nagy, Planning Director and Ralph H. Bakewell, Planner IV, were also present. Mr. Vyhnalek informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves a rezoning request, this Commission only makes a recommendation to the City Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and decide the question. If a petition involves a waiver of use request and the request is denied, the petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision to the City Council; otherwise the petition is terminated. The Commission holds the only public hearing on a preliminary plat and/or a vacating petition. Planning Commission resolutions do not become effective until seven days after tonight. The Planning Commission has reviewed the petitions upon their filing and have been furnished by the staff with approving and denying resolutions. The Commission may use them or not use them depending upon the outcome of the hearing tonight. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda is Petition 88-10-1-30 by the City Planning Commission to rezone property located at the northeast corner of Six Mile Road and Haggerty Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 7 from C-2 to P.S. Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area. Mr. Nagy: We have received a letter from our Engineering Department which states there are no City maintained water mains or sanitary sewers available to service the subject site. Mr. Tent: I just have one question. Is the property presently owned by Mr. Hesano? Mr. Nagy: Yes, Mr. Hesano is the owner of record and he is in the audience this evening and he will appear before the Planning Commission to make some comments. Mr. Morrow: The only comment I would like to make, this comes before us at the request of the City Council, Resolution #824-88, to again study this particular parcel as it relates to zoning. That is the reason for us bringing it here tonight. `r. Edward Hesano, 27460 Beacon Square: I am the owner of this property. 10410 Mr. Vyhnalek: How long have you owned the property subject to this rezoning petition? Mr. Hesano: Approximately ten years. I bought it to use and then we had a recession and I backed off. In fact, I sold a going business so I could devote full time to the project and at this time I have not been able to develop the project as I wanted and a few years back I had it sold to Mobile Oil if they could have put a service station there. After some time they decided not to pursue it. About six months ago I put a "For Sale Commercial" sign up and had numerous calls. Mr. Nagy will attest to that, and the people who called didn't call back because the City of Livonia didn't favorably react to whatever they wanted to do and that could be anything from a deli, service station, restaurant, party store, you name it. They just don't seem to want anything there that is commercial. Mr. Morrow: I guess I would like to ask Mr. Hesano, I don't recall studying too many proposals for this particular site in C-2 so I don't know how you can say the City didn't want anything in there. Mr. Hesano: What I am saying, people have come down to the City Hall and asked about their particular proposed project and come back to me and say we haven't been favorably reacted to. I don't know who they spoke to at the City Hall or where they go. Mr. Morrow: I don't know either. We have C-2 property and it probably could be developed. Mr. Hesano: I understand what you are saying. I can only go by what they say. I say go down to the City and you can find out rather than me telling you something and there be a discrepency in what the City will actually support. Sometimes they don't even get back to me, but I have had a few who do call back and say they don't want the service station, etc. In fact, Mobil had an option and they refused to exercise the option because they felt it would not pass. Mr. Morrow: A couple of the items you mentioned are waiver uses and are not permitted within that classification so they would have to come forward with a waiver use request. I guess I just want to go on record to say if there were attempts to develop that property within the C-2 zoning classification, I have not seen anything in the last few years. I want to preclude the thought that the City is disuading people from using this property as it is zoned. Mr. Kluver: Just to amplify Mr. Morrow's comments, as a member of this Commission since 1971, the only petition I recall for that piece of property was petition that you yourself placed before us in 1979 and that was for a party store and I do believe we saw the same major problems as far as public utility service to service that particular site. Mr. Hesano: The services are there now because of Manufacturers Bank. We were going to bring them in at the time I proposed to build. I sold a business to go into this place. Mr. Kluver: The point I am making again is the only petition which has ever been before this Commission was the one you proposed to us. *4111I ` 10411 Mr. Hesano: I don't know how far Mobil Oil got with theirs. I know they lost money. They gave me option money and they lost it because it could not be approved. Mr. McCann: What is your intention? It is my understanding you are objecting to `4.a. this proposed change of zoning? Mr. Hesano: Yes, I would like to sell it real quick. I would like to get my money out of the property. If you change the zoning, I am sure I would not get as much money out of it plus what difference would it really make. It is still going to be a single story building. I would like to see a nice office building there too. Mr. McCann: You are not intending to do anything with the property as far as developing it? Mr. Hesano: I now have to sell it because of what I wanted to do, the cost is too much for me right now. Mr. Vyhnalek: The reason the Planning Commission wants P.S. , professional service zoning, is we feel that a developer could put something in there that would be compatible to the rest of the area. We don't think we want a deli or a service station with those beautiful buildings along Six Mile and Haggerty. That is why the Council asked us and we are leaning towards changing the zoning to professional service. We feel it can be sold and a reasonably attractive one story office building could be built in that area. Mr. Hesano: I don't feel I can get monetarily what the property is worth if the property is rezoned. As commercial property it is worth more and it has been commercial these number of years. Mr. Tent: Mr. Hesano, of course you realize when you bought that property ten years ago you didn't pay for it what the land is worth today. Mr. Hesano: Absolutely. I also understand my money has been sitting in that property and has not appreciated unless I get more money for my property than I originally paid for it. Mr. Tent: We are trying to help you now because with our Master Plan the Commission can encourage the development of that particular area. The P.S. zoning would be more compatible and we feel by going through this particular change, you should realize something from this property. Mr. Hesano: You are not servicing the people living in that area. Any commercial use is going to service the people in those offices and houses. Mr. Tent: A lot of the buildings in that area will have service oriented operations within themselves. This all relates to developing the property. Mr. Hesano: I have buyers today if it remains commercially zoned. Mr. Tent: I don't want to belabor this but the fact remains as both of my collegues have indicated, and they have been on the Commission quite a while, they have seen what is proposed so all these buyers should put up or shut up. 10412 Mr. Hesano: It wasn't put up for sale until Mobil came to me. I had every intention of opening my business there. I thought I could put a nice food and beverage store there. A very classy operation. That is why it was never put up for sale until recently. I could have constructed a Quick Pik or a 7-Eleven type store, that's not what I wanted. That is why I have not gone and pursued it. I don't think that is what you want and I don't think that is what should be there. I think what you want is a nice classy business. That is what I had in mind. I can put in a convenience store but that is not what I presented to Commission when I came here ten years ago and I don't want to go back on that. Mr. Tent: Just in conclusion, for all the liquor stores we have here and party stores, we could have one big party in Livonia so you would just be adding to the concerns I have. Mr. Morrow: This property has come before us a couple of times before for rezoning purposes and again, the Council has requested we look at it. I have been on record that I support P.S. zoning for that particular corner because I feel it is compatible in that area. On that basis I just think the proper zoning for that corner is a P.S. classification. Mr. Hesano: I don't feel you are servicing the people but that is my opinion. There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 88-10-1-30 closed. On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mr. Kluver and unanimously adopted, it was 'to. #11-213-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 22, 1988 on Petition 88-10-1-30 by the City Planning Commission to rezone property located at the northeast corner of Six Mile Road and Haggerty Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 7 from C-2 to P.S. , the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 88-10-1-30 be approved for the following reasons: 1) The proposed change of zoning will provide for uses that are the most compatible to the surrounding uses in the area. 2) The proposed change of zoning will be consistent with adjacent and surrounding zoning in the area. 3) The P.S. zoning district will provide for uses that will complement the Manufacturers Bank office facility located adjacent to the subject property. FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 88-10-1-31 by Allan N. Mendelssohn, M.D. to rezone property located on the north side of Plymouth Road, west of Newburgh in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 30 from RUF to R-9. 10413 Mr. Vyhnalek: Mr. Mendelssohn had submitted his petition for a R-9 zoning classification, which would allow a two-story building, and he really wanted between three and four stories, which is classified as R-9I so this petition was withdrawn. The City Planning Commission could not cancel the public hearing because it was advertised in the paper but we ‘'► will not have the public hearing. It is terminated at this point and rescheduled for December 20th. I am sorry for the inconvenience but he brought in the plans and they were not in accordance with the proposed zoning. You will be notified, if you were notified on this, you will be notified of the public hearing on the 20th. I am very sorry and we do apologize. Thank you very much. *7:18 Mr. LaPine entered meeting at this time. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 88-10-1-32 by Owen J. Cummings for Associated Diversified Investors requesting to rezone property located on the west side of Stark Road, north of Schoolcraft Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 21 from R-2 to P. Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area. Mr. Nagy: We have a letter in our file from the Engineering Department stating they have no objections to this proposal. Owen Cummings, 33900 Schoolcraft, petitioner: We are the property owners immediately south of the proposed rezoning area. Just to give you a little background, our law offices have been located in this building immediately to the south of the subject property since 1973. We were previously located on Five Mile Road near Inkster in Livonia. Initially when we constructed this building here it was primarily a multi-use ''r' professional office with various uses. The parking didn't become a problem until the law firm that I am in actually occupied the entire building. The nature of our law practice has changed, because it has become more litigation oriented, and as a result parking has become a large problem now for about the last four years. Because we are litigation oriented we have a number of depositions with other attorneys coming in and witnesses coming in and court reporters coming in and it has really taxed the parking that was originally there for the building. As a result we purchased the property immediately to the north and we are proposing to have that zoned parking to accomodate our building. Originally I went to the ZBA under provisions of your zoning code to allow us parking up to 50 feet of adjacent land use and in affect the ZBA said they would prefer to see entire parcel rezoned parking. They tabled our petition and asked that I ask the Planning Commission for rezoning. The Master Plan for the City calls for professional service zoning for the entire parcel right up to the school property and directly south from the line that would be the western most edge of the proposed rezoning area down to Schoolcraft. Professional service for the entire area has been on the Master Plan. There is a building located on the property right now occupied by Mr. and Mrs. Morgan who have owned the property since before we built in 1971 and they are there and they would like to stay there but they recognize it would not be compatible to the zoning. Mr. Morgan had open heart surgery a couple of years ago and they are reluctant to move but they know they have to move. Their one request was that they could stay there as long as it was agreeable to the City but they would move whenever necessary. We saw don't propose to have a mixed use of the property. Our total use would be parking. I think, however, as a consideration to them, we said they could stay there as long as the City allows them to. 10414 Mr. Vyhnalek: As I remember from last week's study you were only going to have parking on lower 50 feet. Mr. Cummings: That was originally when we went to the ZBA because that was all the distance that was permitted. We would propose the entire parcel for parking. Mr. Vyhnalek: Are there any plans in the future for a another building on the site? Mr. Cummings: No. Mr. LaPine: Mr. Cummings, your proposal is, as I understand it, for the whole property to be changed to the parking classification. Are you then going to demolish the building and pave the whole area? Mr. Cummings: We would pave a good portion of the area and yes, we would remove the building. I indicated to the Morgans that we would keep the house as long for them as possible. I am talking a year. Mr. laPine: Is your ultimate decision going to be to pave the whole area? Mr. Cummings: To pave a substantial part. Mr. LaPine: I don't want a substantial part. If you are going to pave, I want to see the whole thing paved at one time. Mr. Cummings: It will be paved, except for those areas bermed or landscaped. Mr. LaPine: I now understand. Mr. McCann: With regard to the what the Chairman asked you regarding the 50 foot extension into the subject area, the plan we saw, you are going to keep the house for the next year or two so until that time you are going to pave 50 feet into it and turn that into parking? Mr. Cummings: No. It would have to be in conjunction with the whole area. Mr. McCann: You are not going to park there at all until next year? Mr. Cummings: We have had cars parked there temporarily. Mr. McCann: What are they parked on? Mr. Cummings: Gravel. When we went to the ZBA we asked for permission to park there on a temporary basis and they suggested we put gravel in there. Mr. McCann: You are using access driveway of the home? Mr. Cummings: Yes, the driveway area. Mr. McCann: That is what you would do for next year? Mr. Cummings: No we will prepare plans for the full development of the property. Mr. McCann: You would demolish the house? 10415 Mr. Cummings: Yes, or move it. Mr. Vyhnalek: Mr. Nagy, if this petition did pass through us and the City Council, he would have one year to put asphalt down? Mr. Nagy: Yes, that is correct. Mr. Tent: Mr. Cummings, the original petition as submitted showed that you intended to use 44 feet of south residential lot but I am confused now as to what you are talking about. Is the proposal just rezoning the 44 feet or the entire property which is 165 x 243? If you were to get the zoning change, would you develop that entire piece? Mr. Vyhnalek: Mr. Cummings is rezoning the entire area. Is that right Mr. Nagy? Mr. Nagy: Yes. Mr. Cummings: Yes, that is correct. Mr. Tent: I would like to see something in writing where we could analyze this. Come up with some drawings. We are all asking questions and there could be some misunderstanding. Mr. Cummings: The entire area would be for parking. The reason you see what you see is the ZBA requested that I immediately get a petition into you folks and rather than going back to engineers and say redo the drawings, I made a promise to them that I would get it in within 30 days. Mr. McDonald said we wouldn't have to redo the drawings as long as everyone clearly understood we would be using the entire area for parking. N. Mr. Tent: Would you be willing to work with the Planning Department staff on the drawings? Mr. Cummings: Yes. Mr. Vyhnalek: Mr. Tent, we are really concerned about zoning tonight and once it is rezoned, he will have to come back with site plans. Mr. Tent: We are not just rezoning this 44 feet? Mr. Nagy: The entire parcel is up for rezoning and the legal description covers the entire area and he does have to have site plan approval. Mr. Morrow: The only comment I would make is that I kind of go along with Mr. Tent because it is kind of going fairly deep into a residential area. Even though I don't say we have to have a true site plan, I would like to see a concept of what he intends to do. Mr. Cummings: There is parking immediately to the west of the proposed rezoned area. We would really be butting up to the present parking on south side and also on the west side. To the north it is right-of-way until you get to the school access drive. I would be more than agreeable to have a schematic proposal into you folks. It was just suggested by the ZBA that I get a petition before you people with `..- some dispatch. Now 10416 Mr. Engebretson: I simply want to make a point Mr. Cummings, that given the fact that you aren't planning to do anything until next construction season, I get the impression that you are not particularly concerned if we put this issue aside for a couple of weeks to make sure we understand precisely what you are trying to do? Mr. Cummings: I would have no problem with that. Mr. Kluver: Basically I want to make the same point Mr. Engebretson has brought out. Construction season is behind us and you could put together a plan and identify the whole program so we could take the kind of action that would support you. Mr. Cummings: If I could give you a sketch plan would that be agreeable? Mr. Vyhnalek: Yes it would. Joan Lovasz, 14100 Stark: We live across the street from them. It is not compatible to what we want. We would like less building on this street. We have too much now. Mr. Vyhnalek: It is just going to be a parking lot. Mrs. Lovasz: Yes but it is going deeper and deeper and taking away less houses. Eugene Lovasz: I would like to add the only thing that bothers me is that they are not only incorporating it as a parking lot but the size of property is rather excessive. Later on who is to say he will not come before the Commission again and want to build another building there? To say he is going to park cars there now is fine but who is to say he �•. will not put another building in there? 'rr,. Mr. Vyhnalek: He will have to come before us and Council and have the property rezoned. With this proposed zoning change he is limited to parking only. Mr. Lovasz: We have enjoyed this area. It is a shame to have him start encroaching on our area. The area along Schoolcraft should be professional service not residential area down Stark Road. If he wants to do it anyways he should have gone west of office not north down Stark Road. Mr. Morrow: I would like to respond to his question. We are studying it and we haven't passed anything. You asked a question as to what is to prevent him from coming in and putting up a building. If he should prevail with the parking zoning, that classification precludes any building. It can only be used for parking. He would have to come back and rezone it. P is just for parking. Mr. Lovasz: Like I say, the size of lot is large enough to slip a building in. Dorothy O'Day, 14050 Stark: I do not want parking, building, or anything else on that street. We have enough. I have lived there since 1955 and I intend to stay there the rest of my life. I don't want to move and I keep my property up and I don't want that parking lot there. �- Kathleen Dobson, 14116 Stark Road: We have been there since 1965. In that period of time we have had Livonia Family Y, Eddie Edgar Arena, all these �.. P.S. buildings going in. When we moved in there it was a rural area. We have really gone along with the progress but I think you have reached the limit when you ask us to have a parking lot for 10417 public building looking out our windows. I think you have just gone too far. I think we need to take a look at this. I understand there was availability for him to go west on Schoolcraft but he chose not to do that. If you put a parking lot there you are asking for trouble. The kids will be coming through from school and wrecking cars. You are inviting trouble by putting a parking lot that close to a junior high. That particular age group is a problem. I really think you are inviting trouble. Fred Dobson, 14116 Stark: I am opposed to it for namely the same reasons everyone else is. Mr. LaPine: Do you own the property or do you have a contingency to buy the property if you get the zoning? Mr. Cummings: We own the property. Mr. LaPine: How long have you owned the property? Mr. Cummings: About one year. We are buying on a land contract. The Morgans still live there. Mr. LaPine: The building that you are in now, are there all lawyers in that office? Mr. Cummings: Yes. Mr. LaPine: John Nagy, when that building was constructed they were required x number of parking spots for so many square foot of building. How `... have we created a parking problem there now? Has something changed where we have created a parking problem now where we didn't have a v., problem before. Mr. Nagy: At the time that property was rezoned and the site plan submitted, the site plan was in full compliance with the off-street parking requirements. Apparently what has happened is the peculiar needs that his tenants have placed upon the property are such that the parking is inadequate based upon our standards. I think it is a unique situation. Mr. LaPine: Maybe the problem is he has outgrown the building. Mr. Nagy: I think that is the motivation behind this request. Mr. McCann: The property just to the west of your property, have you ever negotiated for that piece of property? Mr. Cummings: Yes, I own that property. Mr. McCann: What would be the problem of turning that into parking? It seems to me it would be just as suitable. Mr. Cummings: The problem with that is the present parcel we have up for rezoning is more suitable in that it already has parking on two sides and it is an extension of the use that surrounds it for the most part. It `.. is just more compatible with the use of the building itself. It would be an extension of our present parking lot. Now Mr. McCann: Does the drawing pretty much characterize the building location and building next to the location as well? 10418 Mr. Cummings: Yes. Mr. McCann: It appears to me either way you would have to remove a home. '''+ Mr. Cummings: Either way we would have to remove a home. We would have parking right next to residential property for the Schoolcraft site. With this request it is only an extension of parking where parking is already on each side to the south and west. If we were to go to the west, we would be introducing parking up to this gentleman's residential property line. (Mr. Cummings pointed this out on map) Mr. Tent: I have to agree with Mr. LaPine when he indicated this building has overgrown its needs and Mr. Nagy indicated this is a peculiar situation. Now this must prevail throughout the City. Are they in violation with their parking as it stands now Mr. Nagy? Mr. Nagy: They have made use of this residentially zoned area for off-street parking and they have been notified that it is not permissible. The residential zoning of the subject site does not permit off-street parking for the adjacent property. With respect to their existing use at the time it was submitted for site plan approval it fully complied with the P.S. zoning district regulations and still does. They are not in violation. Mr. Tent: To accommodate those cars when they park in the off-street parking area on the subject lot, they are in violation of the zoning ordinance? Mr. Nagy: They are in violation when using the subject site for off-street r... parking. Residential zoning that is in existence on this property does not permit that it be used for off-street parking for office Now purposes. Mr. Tent: Where he is parking cars now it is illegal and we are trying to circumvent that now by providing some additional space. So really going on Schoolcraft, the R-2, do you have other uses for that property? Are you going to put a building up there? You own that property now. Is that why you are not using that for parking? Mr. Cummings: We have no plans for extension of our office building in the R-2 right now. The people who own that property were people we knew. The husband was transferred to North Carolina. They came to us and asked us if we would purchase the property and we said we would. We have renters in there right now. We have no plans right now to extend our building. Mr. Tent: I am sure that when you purchased the property you must have purchased it with the intent to develop it. Your intent to develop that piece of property would be another commercial building? I mean whether it is five years from now or two years from now. Mr. Cummings: That is quite possible. Mr. Tent: You would prefer to have parking in the back? Mr. Cummings: I believe it would be much more logical to have parking expanded where it already occurs. Now Mr. Tent: Even if it is infringing into the residential neighborhood? 10419 Mr. Cummings: When we purchased the property the Master Plan called for the entire parcel as being professional service. That is why we bought that particular piece of property. That is why we are here tonight. It did not call for professional service west of where we are. Mr. Tent: Mr. Nagy, is that correct? Mr. Nagy: He has made an accurate statement. Mrs. Sobolewski: Mr. Cummings, how many parking spaces do you believe you will get out of that lot? Mr. Cummings: I believe we need possibly 30 to 50 parking spaces depending on how much land is devoted to landscaping. Mrs. Sobolewski: That will make a total of how many? Mr. Cummings: I would imagine about 112 to 115 parking spaces total between the two lots. Mrs. Sobolewski: When you were to the ZBA did you have a plan that you presented to them? Mr. Cummings: Yes just for the additional 15 to 20 parking spaces. The ZBA looked at that plan and said what is the overflow that causes the parking problems? It was then decided to pursue the rezoning of the entire piece of property and get the problem solved. Mrs. Sobolewski: I think a study could be done on this. I think a nice parking area could be made with good berming. Mr. Cummings: I did go to the Building Department and requested permission to park ,tow cars on the property while the rezoning petition is in progress and Mr. Fegan permitted that. There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 88-10-1-32 closed. Mr. Kluver: I would like to table this petition until our study meeting of November 29, 1988 and at that meeting I would like to have from Mr. Cummings a total number of fixed parking requirements. How many employees he has in the building with the exact number of spots he must have in order to park those employees' cars and from that we can measure that against the existing ordinance requirements. I want to know exactly how many parking spots you have to have. Mr. Vyhnalek: Mr. Kluver, I think we asked him for a sketch. Mr. Kluver: That's fine but I also want to know how many people and how many cars he has to park. On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mr. McCann and unanimously adopted, it was #11-214-88: RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 22, 1988 on Petition 88-10-1-32 by Owen J. Cummings for Associated Diversified Investors requesting to rezone property located on the west side of Stark Road, north of Schoolcraft Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 21 from R-2 to P. , the City Planning Commission does hereby table Petition 88-10-1-32 to the study meeting of November 29, 1988. 10420 Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 88-10-1-33 by Kenneth Neumann for Duke Associates requesting to rezone property located on the east side of Haggerty Road north of Six Mile Road in the Now Southwest 1/4 of Section 7 from R-5C and P.L. to P.O. and from P.L. to P.O.III. Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area. Mr. Nagy: We have a letter in our file from the Engineering Department stating there are no storm sewers available to service the site in question. On-site detention of storm water runoff would be required. If the rezoning proposals are approved, it will be necessary for the petitioner to provide this office with anticipated sanitary sewer flows for the development. This information would be required in order to analyze the impact on the downstream sanitary sewer systems. We also have a letter in our file from Maureen W. Vollmer, President of Gold Manor Community Association stating she is against this rezoning because Livonia has been developed as a residential city with zoning to provide industrial, commercial and public land and is known for its good city services and good schools. She finds it hard to believe another developer is coming in with additional office space considering the amount that is under construction now. She urges the Commission and the City Council to vote no on this rezoning and suggests that impact studies be done so we will still be proud of Livonia in the 1990's and want to maintain our homes in this area. Charles Tangora, 32900 Five Mile Road: I represent the petitioner in this case. Tonight we are planning on putting on presentation of the proposed rezoning. For that we have Kenneth Neumann who is the architect and who has been before the Planning Commission and the City Council on numerous occasions in the past. Namely, I think you will remember him from the Victor project. Also the petitioner, Duke Associates retained Kenneth Neuman for their first project and we have people here from Reid, Cool & Michalski, who have made a traffic study and will make several comments on the traffic analysis and finally with us is Ernest Maddox, General Manager of Duke Associates. I think most of the commissioners are familiar with Duke Associates. They are the developer of the office buildings on the north end of Schoolcraft College, and they have experienced very good results in leasing those buildings. Their anticipation of this particular project is that at the time the first building on this development would come on stream, approximately two years from now, their second building will be constructed only when the first building is leased. Within six months of full lease the second building will start construction so as far as they are concerned, it is a good leasing market. There are studies here by Cushman-Wakefield, which is a well-known broker. Their involvement is, not as a developer but involved with marketing building and preparing impact studies. We found their study shows there is a need in 1990 and 1991 for additional office space. I am going to turn this over to Ken Neumann. We will be available after Mr. Neumann and the gentleman from Reid, Cool & Michalski to answer questions. Mr. Maddox is available for any comments you have too. 10421 Mr. Morrow: I just want to ask Mr. Tangora a couple of questions. Because we are dealing with public land at this site and we see the petition is brought forward by Duke, part of this land, as I recall, was part of a request by Republic Airlines to purchase it at one time for a reservation center. Is that true Mr. Tangora? Mr. Tangora: Yes. Mr. Morrow: That was precluded for what reason from sale? Mr. Tangora: Evidently Northwest, which at that time was Republic Airlines, and I was involved with that petition, that company had to relocate their reservation center within a very short period of time. They had picked out a site in the City of Romulus and they felt Romulus was not the place to be. They had to find a site and they picked out a site in Livonia at Schoolcraft College. Unfortunately Schoolcraft College, because it was brought to them with a short decision making time, had not done any study at that time with regard to disposing of surplus land and their Board of Trustees turned them down. Consequently, then Republic went across the street. It was their second choice. Mr. Morrow: The key thing was the Board of Trustees had not made a study and had not made a decision. I suppose it was the Board of Trustees decision so in my notes and the paper I saw there was no reference to any board action. I guess I want to be comfortable that the Board of Trustees has decided that this is surplus property and that this rezoning request is properly before us. Is that a safe 1 assumption? `,. Mr. Tangora: That is my understanding. Mr. Maddox is here and he can give you a first hand analysis. Mr. Morrow: I would like to know is that unanimous or a split type of vote by the college trustees? I just want to make sure we are studying a valid petition, as far as I am concerned. Because it is public land, I would like to see something from the college saying it is surplus land. Ernest Maddox, General Manager of Duke Associates: A letter from the Schoolcraft College Board of Trustees dated October 31, 1988 accompanied the original application. Mr. Morrow: It was official board action? Mr. Maddox: Yes it was. Mr. Morrow: Was it totally supported by the board? Mr. Maddox: I don't know their vote. We have been in contact with the board over the last several months to go over the application and program. They are totally knowledgable of this petition. Mr. Morrow: That clears up my concerns. Mr. Kenneth Neumann, Neuman, Smith & Associates, 26877 Northwestern Hwy. , `"' Southfield: I have some drawings here. (Mr. Neumann displayed drawings). This drawing indicates the property in question. The property is approximately 38 acres in size and although, we are not here on the 10422 question of site plan approval, we thought it was appropriate to show the intent of what Duke sees for this piece of property. The development plan therefore, is a general plan that outlines our notions about property development and also the request for changing the zoning as a consequence of that plan. The property happens to sit adjacent to Schoolcraft College. The bottom edge of the site fir. sits approximately one-quarter of the distance from Six Mile to Seven Mile and the site diagram indicates that proximity, which in fact is like the diagram on the wall. The notion has been to develop the site with a different characteristic towards that portion of property which is related to Haggerty Road from that portion which is related to the expressway. The notion that we have developed is consistent with the other development because of the relationship to the expressway, that buildings of a taller nature are appropriate for the expressway and because of that fact we have said that, the portion which is closest to the expressway, we would like to ask in our request for rezoning from P.L. zoning to P.0.III, to allow buildings up to the maximum of 12 stories in height. For that portion which is close to Haggerty Road for P.O. zoning that would allow buildings up to a maximum of 4 stories. The site itself indicates a potential road to be developed into the site which would feed from Haggerty Road. I think it is important to state we think this is a unique piece of property and one which is appropriate for this kind of zoning because this site is located between Six Mile and Seven Mile Roads and where we have two interchanges on the expressway. It is very unusual in the world to find what Livonia has, which is a development pattern generated by three expressways. There is no place else, that I know of, in the metropolitan area that has such a major intersection in relationship to an expressway. In fact, the traffic study will suggest that the majority of traffic to the site will be coming to and from the site from the expressway system so as to be as little of an impact on any of the adjacent road system. Carl Kleitch is here with the traffic study. This plan is essentially what we would like to see on the site. We have a model which indicates the character of this development. The height of the buildings are a consequence, we believe, of the relationship to the expressway and are a consequence of the fact there is a large portion of the site developed in green space. These buildings will have in their character, when developed, a relationship to the buildings Duke is building on the opposite side of the campus. (Mr. Neumann showed aerial photos) I thought it was appropriate to show this because I think, it is logical when a highway like this is developed within a City, there will be a need for having developments along it. We think if there is any location within the City, that this is the place for this kind of development. One of the letters that was read this evening, there was a question about impact of this proposed development. Yes, there would be additional services required by this type of development. This development would also produce somewhere in the area of a million to one and a half million dollars in taxes when the project is completed. There will be money coming to City to compensate for those types of needs. Lastly, let me say that the development is not seen to be something that would happen overnight. Each of these buildings will take a minimum of one and a half years to build and at least one to one and a half years to lease so we are looking at a long term project. Duke wouldn't be considering this if they didn't feel there was a need for it and that the buildings would not be leased. It is their intent to 10423 develop the major road system through the site. We believe that the impacts of this project are minimal. We are aware there is no storm drainage system and we will have to detain water. This plan can accommodate the holding of storm water. We believe those kinds of technical problems can be dealt with and are dealt with as part of the plan. Mr. Vyhnalek: This project will take how many years? Mr. Neumann: Eight to ten years. Mr. Vyhnalek: I have in our notes here that says that the City of Livonia added 455,000 square feet of new office space in 1988, nearly doubling its Class A space. The new office space reduced occupancy levels from 80% in 1987 to 56.6% at the present time. What we have now and what we have on board it looks like they are not leasing it out. Do you agree with that Mr. Neumann? Mr. Neumann: I would like to turn over this matter of leasing to Mr. Maddox. I might tell you their existing building has been leasing very well and it is their understanding based upon their track record to date, they should still be able to complete the leasing of their first phase project. Mr. Tent: Mr. Neumann, I want to question you on two things you said. You see money isn't everything. You indicated we would get two million dollars in tax revenue. Is that correct? Mr. Neumann: I said probably between a million and a million and a half. 'Nu. Mr. Tent: We had a similar situation with the racetrack. The City got a lot of money out of that but we had horrendous traffic problems and we still do. So money doesn't really solve the problems that we are looking at. You indicated a leasing arrangement with the college. There was a study made in the Detroit News or Free Press two months ago covering metropolitan Detroit area, Wayne, Oakland and surrounding counties. It indicated we have an oversaturation of office complexes and buildings in Detroit, in Novi, all over and they can't lease the buildings so what they are doing, they are going ahead and allowing tenants to stay in a lease free just to keep the buildings occupied. Now you are talking about bringing in a building here with one million square feet. We also have almost three million worth of square footage in existing and proposed buildings in Victor complex. My big concern here is what magic words are you going to use to get tenants to fill these buildings when the article said they will not get any relief from this over supply of buildings for many, many years. I would like to clear the air on this. Mr. Neumann: I would like to go on record and say I don't believe I said the money from the taxes would solve all the problems in the world. What I said was there would be services that would be required because of the size of this project. We may need additional police personnel because of the project. There will be an impact upon the community that will require money for services. Mr. Tent: We are going to eat up that money to provide the services. 10424 Mr. Neumann: I believe there will be excess money from the taxes that will take care of the issue of additional monies required for those specific services. The second thing I would like to say in regard to the office market is our firm works with a great number of developers all across the local metropolitan area and we are dealing with a series of developers from outside the metropolitan area, all large `o. scale national developers who have come to Detroit metropolitan area because they see this as a strong market place. We have many new projects starting by some of the most sophisticated developers in the nation and that leaves me to believe they all realize there is money to be made. These projects can be built. They can be filled up and I think, if there is any firm that is conservative in this world, Duke is one of those. They will not build this project if they cannot make it work. Mr. Tent: We don't want to have empty buildings in the City. Anything I would approve of I want to make sure it is usable and viable and good for the community. Mr. Neumann: The last study I have seen indicates, I think, Duke was 26th largest developer in United States and they have millions and millions of dollars worth of developments across the central part of the country. They are the kind of owners who retain ownership. They are in it for the long term. They have demonstrated in their buildings along Seven Mile Road that they have built quality products. I would like to turn this meeting over to Ernie Maddox. Mr. Tent: Mr. Maddox, the study I referred to two months ago is, if you people are really that good, are you going to run everyone else out of the business because you are going to corner the market. What is wrong with the study that was made two months ago where they indicated an excess of office space and they can't give it away? Mr. Maddox: There are studies that show all kinds of things. There was a study made by Cushman-Wakefield that showed 27% vacancy. On the way in tonight WJR was talking about Economic Growth Council and they said metropolitan Detroit area went from 8 to 10% to 2% last year. The problem with any study is when it is taken. A new building comes on. The day it comes on the vacancy rate goes up drastically. There are wild swings. We think probably the stable vacancy rate on I-275 is 12 to 14%. In terms of our building, we generally allow approximately 18 months to lease a building. We will have this one leased in 11 months. Those have been tenants of all sizes. The letter that Mr. Nagy read talking about slowness of construction, we are actually ahead of construction on our second building. Mr. Tent: What is the vacancy rate on Seven Mile? Mr. Maddox: This is on our new building. The one that is not done as yet. We have two leases signed in that building. Mr. Tent: What is the vacancy rate on the building you have completed now? 10425 Mr. Maddox: 60 to 65%. By the end of the year it should be 95% leased. We are leasing about 10% a month. Mr. Engebretson: I have several questions. Mr. Neumann referred to the fact that in his estimation most of the traffic that would be generated by ,ftiv this development would quickly get on the freeway and go away. What percentage of the tenants that you see coming into these buildings would be coming from other areas than Livonia? Mr. Maddox: I think in our existing building only 2 of 16 tenants come from Livonia. The rest have come from outside of the metropolitan area. A number of companies have small offices in two or three locations and have combined them and increased the office area. The market in Detroit is very strong in terms of people moving to Detroit and setting up headquarters. Mr. Engebretson: Mr. Neumann also referred to the projected estimate of the tax dollars that would be generated by this property so obviously you have some idea of the construction value? Mr. Maddox: I didn't do that on basis of construction value. That is a business I don't know a lot about. Basically our historical experience is between $1.00 to $1.50 per square foot is what property tax rate will be. **8:27 Brenda Lee Fandrei entered meeting at this time. Mr. Engebretson: I am also interested in your projected use of Fox Drive which is a very narrow street and which I presume is a City street. *ft'' Mr. Maddox: No, Fox Drive is a private road. It will be widened and paved. We don't have complete engineering plans done as yet, but the anticipation is where Fox Drive meets Six Mile it will be a Boulevard which will extend about 500 to 600 feet north . The Six Mile interchange will be widened. We have made plans for a potential traffic light. Fox Drive would be built to good quality standards, probably City standards. Mr. Engebretson: It sounds like you are including the cost of doing all of those improvements in your costs. Mr. Maddox: That is correct. Mr. Engebretson: Can you confirm the benefits to Schoolcraft College as reported in the Livonia Observer? Which was I believe to be $250,000 per year. Mr. Maddox: That is approximately the number. The number may actually exceed that. Mr. Engebretson: How does that work? Mr. Maddox: Schoolcraft College would have to answer that more directly than I could. I believe they are prohibited from selling property based on their public status. They have done a lot of legal research so what �... we are proposing to do is enter into a long term lease agreement for approximately 75 years. We pay them for the use of that land. As we build it we will pay them considerably more and the number quoted in the paper. 10426 Mr. Engebretson: I would like to ask Mr. Nagy to get information on that relative to specifics of the agreement and in addition, clarify the exact position of the Board of Trustees relative to this action. Mr. Maddox, assume the total development was completed, what would you 4w estimate the daytime population of that development to be in terms of the people? Mr. Maddox: The best estimate I would have is the number of cars, which is a little over 4,000. It is anticipated that would probably equal the population. Mr. Engebretson: So you would assume each person would arrive in their own car? Mr. Neumann: In developments of this size although you require parking for one car for 200 square feet for general office space, we found in projects of this size when you have multiplicity of tenants, there will not be the same number of people within the project that the auto count calls for. We may have 4,000 cars but I believe we would never have more than 3,000 people on site at one time. The basis of one person for every 200 square feet is a very high occupancy number for project like this. Mr. Kluver: Mr. Maddox, you alluded to square footage. We are looking at a zoning situation but obviously square footage also comes into play. You alluded to the fact that square footage in these types of developments seemed to float. We have some numbers that we have just had made available to us and I would like to make comments regarding those. On the freeway corridor, present buildings and buildings under construction total 2,111,122 square feet. Of those buildings 69% of that number are vacant. Roughly 1,456,000 square �► feet is vacant. Also, we have proposed and approved an additional 983,000 square feet to be constructed on the I-275 Corridor. Looking at your project, it will have a tremendous impact on the area. When this project was started initially, with Duke & Associates and Schoolcraft College, I wanted to know what the total time period to complete this development would be? Mr. Maddox: We are based in Indianapolis. When we first came to Detroit we did a lot of study. At the time we looked at Detroit we were in Cincinnati and Indianapolis. We looked at this site in Detroit and finally made a choice to come here. When we started talking to Schoolcraft College we were only talking initially about property to the north. Schoolcraft did their study and came to the conclusion that they had surplus property and they could turn it into a long term financial stability for them and then began discussions with us. When did that happen? I suppose six months ago. We were well aware of everything under construction. I am sure in your report you have a couple of buildings in that total that won't be done for a few months. Mr. Kluver: Possibly there is one that may never get done. The point I am getting at is I am looking at a major project. We are not just looking at an office building, we are looking at an office park when this project is completed. Once the project is completed it would equal what we already have built on the corridor. What I have in my r.. mind, as a layman is, you have spent six months putting this 10427 together and gathering information along with building up incremental data to support your project. You have a very well detailed traffic study. Coupled with this is the primary services to the area. In particular the water system, sanitary and storm sewers. There has been a major problem with water pressure in the northwest section of Livonia. I question the impact this project would place on these services. I guess, the problem I have is the impact it is going to have on the City and throughout the City. We are going through logistics and all the numbers but there is also an impact that we never put a dollar value on and that is quality of life and what does this mean to us? Will it do anything to our quality of life in Livonia? Livonia has a rather unique situation. It is possibly the hotest development area in the country and will continue to be that way but, that doesn't preclude the prudent use of the land. I am looking at a lot of material here and I don't think that I can intelligently talk about it. You have spent six months putting it together. I have no idea how it was assimilated. It is going to take considerable time for that information to filter down to the laymen. I speak for myself, not for the balance of the Commission. This proposed project is a city in itself to some degree. Mr. Maddox: We spent a lot longer than six months studying the market. This is a community and that is what Duke does. Mr. Kluver: I congratulate you on your project on Seven Mile. It is outstanding. Mr. Maddox: We have a very long term interest in our projects. We do it fairly carefully. We do it slowly. We tested the market at Seven Mile and found it to be a very good market and we feel the time is right to begin this project. I think the quality of life in Livonia would be 'rr. improved. It will be changed and in the change some people will not like it as much as what they had. A project like this pays its own way. Mr. Kluver: I appreciate that and that is good. You have spent six months so far and I have spent an hour and 55 minutes. This is a major, major project and I appreciate what you say. Possibly some of it is right. Possibly some of it will happen and possibly some of it will not happen. The traffic consultant can give us an impression. It is a zoning situation now and the magnitude of this project, you are coming in with is approximately one million square feet. Mr. Tent: I would like to echo Mr. Kluver's sentiments. I agree with you 100% so you have another Commissioner here who agrees with you. Mr. LaPine: I want to get something clear in my mind. The lease agreement you have with Schoolcraft College is as you build the buildings and develop the parcel then you pay Schoolcraft College x number of dollars. You don't pay them for the whole parcel at the onset? If you get the zoning now, you are not going to pay Schoolcraft College right away. You pay them as you develop the land, is that correct? Mr. Maddox: When we reach our agreement, at that point we begin to pay them minimum base payment and it immediately goes on the tax rolls. As we develop the land, we pay them a higher rate. r.. Mr. LaPine: The next question. After 75 years what happens? 10428 Mr. Maddox: Schoolcraft becomes the owner of everything we built. Carl Kleitch, Traffic Engineer with Reid, Cool & Michalski: Let me briefly go through the procedure that I used for the traffic analysis. As Mr. ,r Neumann has indicated this is the site from a traffic point of view. There are two interchanges, Six Mile Road and Seven Mile Road and we believe the majority of the traffic will make use of those streets. We feel that the intersection that will be impacted the most will be Haggerty and Six Mile Road and that was the focus of our report. We believe approximately 30% of the traffic to the site and from the site will travel through that intersection. What we did was to gather the existing traffic volume at that intersection on November 15 for the morning peak hours of 7:15 to 8:15 and the afternoon peak hours. We began our study by getting what the existing traffic volume was. We did a manual count on the turning movements. How many drive through, how many turn left and how many turn right. With that base information for morning peak hours and afternoon peak hours, we increased it all a blanket 5%. That was to take into account other developments in the area so we just put a blanket 5% increase on existing traffic. Our third step was to add traffic generated by this site. That's the proposed new development, and we used the ultimate development, slightly over 1,000,000 gross square feet for an office building and determined what morning peak and afternoon peak hour traffic would be. Those figures are for the a.m. entering trips 1,306 and for the exiting trips it would be 1,160. These figures are based on current information provided in Trip Generation Manual published by the Institute of Transportation. We have existing traffic increased by 5%. The capacity analysis results are for the morning peak hours, the capacity analysis relates to the amount of delay an average vehicle would expect. The Now level of service in the morning would be D. An average delay of 34 seconds per vehicle. That is acceptable. A through D is acceptable. For the p.m. average delay would be approximately 24 seconds which is level C. In both cases the level of service would be acceptable. To achieve that we had to propose some changes. We pointed out two areas that are available to make changes. One is adding laneage and the other is changing signal time. We found there was no need to add lanes but signal operation would have to be changed. In particular the left turn phase for east and west bound traffic would be required to be changed. We would maintain the 70 second cycle that is currently there. We also looked at driveway movements in and out of the site and found that deceleration lanes would be required to ease movement into the site. Our projected distribution is 55% of the traffic will use the Six Mile driveway and of that traffic 40% is going in or out to east and 15% going to west. The remaining 45% will use the Haggerty driveway. The breakdown there is 30% to and from the north and 15% to south. Basically our conclusion is that with signal modification and with the addition of a left turn lane and a small modification in allotment of green time we could achieve a level service of D in the morning and a level of service of C in the afternoon, which are acceptable. Mr. Vyhnalek: You indicated that 40% of the traffic would go east on Six Mile. Do you recommend a light there? 10429 Mr. Kleitch: Yes we do. I don't believe it will be needed for the early stages but at the end. Mr. Kluver: If this facility was completed based on your study, then among the Ntar conclusions is that Haggerty Road south of Six Mile would not have to be widened. It would remain a two lane road? Mr. Kleitch: We did not study the roadway link between intersections. Mr. Kluver: Why wouldn't you study the link? Haggerty Road today is the link between, Five, Six, Seven and Eight Mile Roads when you have problems on the expressway. What about Six Mile west? Would you leave that two lanes? Mr. Kleitch: Yes. Mr. Kluver: There is an exit ramp off 275 that goes to Six Mile. Fox Road is probably 150 yards to the west of the light? Mr. Kleitch: It is relatively close. Mr. Kluver: The morning rating was D at peak time. Would you say with your analysis and your study there wouldn't be any stack up of cars back along the freeway exit ramp to Six Mile? Mr. Kleitch: Obviously there is going to be some impact. Mr. Kluver: In your conclusion you can't tell me what that impact is? Mr. Kleitch: Not at this time. I don't believe there will be a problem. Mr. LaPine: Mr. Kluver brought up a number of points I was going to bring up. This study you took is that impact study based just on your project or on other projects in that area? Mr. Kleitch: The steps they took was to add 5% increase in traffic at that intersection to take into account other developments in the area. Mr. LaPine: The other developments are the Jonna project? We haven't talked about the impact the Shenkman property might have on Seven Mile and Haggerty. The study you made was limited to what impact the traffic would have strictly on your project instead of all the other projects going in there. I can't help but believe we are going to have backups. All you have to do is go to Troy. On Big Beaver and I-75 getting off that exit in the morning they are backed up a mile to a mile and a half. Mr. Kleitch: We did try to take into account through use of the 5% factor other uses in the area. Mr. LaPine: It is going to be more than 5%. I get the impression that your people assume that most of the traffic is going to come along the expressway. People who are coming from the north, they are not all going to be coming in on the expressway. The only people coming from the east would be people that live on the east side like Grosse Pointe. Anyone coming from the north, it would be more logical for them to use surface roads. 10430 Mr. Kleitch: We included people coming from the west like Plymouth and Ann Arbor who would come from M-14 to I-275. Mr. LaPine: Did this study also include the Schoolcraft College? How many students go there? How many cars are parked in Schoolcraft College ,' parking lot? Mr. Kleitch: Yes it did. The existing count we took did take into account all the traffic that is currently there. Mr. LaPine: You haven't projected what will happen when these other projects are done? Mrs. Fandrei: The students going to and from Schoolcraft College aren't all going at the same hours as people exiting from this project. Mr. Kleitch: Yes. We identify the peak hour that is currently in operation out there and to that peak hour we add the peak trips that would be generated. Mrs. Fandrei: What would the peak hour be for the Schoolcraft College students? Mr. Kleitch: I am not sure. Mrs. Fandrei: You don't know what the peak hours are for students there in the afternoon? How do you come up with 5%? Mr. Kleitch: We don't know exactly what the peak hour is so we go out in morning between 7:00 and 9:00 and we count 15 minute intervals and we find �o. the peak 60 minutes. Same thing in the afternoon. It is very rare that peak hours don't occur during those four hour periods. Mrs. Fandrei: Most of the projects are on the Livonia border. Have you considered prospective developments on the Northville border along Haggerty Road? Mr. Kleitch: We did apply a 5% factor. I am reading that you are communicating that the 5% factor is too low. We could certainly adopt a different factor and work that into our analysis. Mrs. Fandrei: How do you come up with 5%? Mr. Kleitch: It is hard to know all the projects so we try a blanket factor. Mr. Engebretson: You said in your opening remarks that this traffic study that you were referring to, that a copy would be made available to us. Can you tell us when that will be made available to us? Mr. Kleitch: You are welcome to them at any time. Mr. Engrebretson: I would appreciate having one. I feel at a tremendous disadvantage to try and deal with the mass of numbers being discussed. They are all starting to blend together in my mind. I think we very much need to have a copy of that and I think we can, in turn, offer you perhaps a copy of a report that may enable you to Num. do a more scientific study of the impact of the other projects in 10431 the areas that are under development or approved for development. You will find that the numbers I am talking about exceed the size of your development by several times and I for one believe that judging this petition in all respects such as traffic, impact on City, I impact on quality of life, etc. The project cannot be considered in isolation because it is part of a much bigger picture and I would suggest the Planning Department can make available to you detailed information with respect to these other things we are concerned about. I think you need to know this other data. You are the expert and obviously you deal with standard methods of taking statistics and developing conclusions. We need to see that too. I would like to inquire about one point, the morning trips into the facility. Would you mind repeating that? Mr. Kleitch: The figure for entering trips in the morning is 1,306. Mr. Engebretson: I would like to go back to Mr. Neumann's comments about population of the facility. He indicated it would be approximately 3,000 people vs 4,000 cars. They made an estimate based on the number of parking spaces. I believe it is safe to assume that the vast majority of these people would be arriving around 8:30 a.m. , plus or minus one-half an hour, so based on those facts, this building is going to be half leased or I am misunderstanding something. Perhaps you can straighten me out. Mr. Kleitch: That number represents the arrival rate of one hour. Other trips, not quite at this high level will be arriving prior to and after the peak hour we suggested. Office buildings will have salesmen and other people arriving at different times. `r. Mr. Engebretson: I guess you are the expert but those of us who live in the area and use those surface streets find it incredibly difficult to enter Haggerty Road during the day. I tried that out during the middle of the day and I am telling you it was difficult and I felt there were some risks and in addition coming to Six Mile I estimated 25 cars in front of me looking to make a left turn. I agree with Mr. LaPine that the people coming from the north are likely to use service streets and I guess this leads to another concern of mine about traffic. There are going to be people shortcutting down half mile roads through residential neighborhood streets so I think the point is we can't settle any of this here tonight. I think we need a lot of information. I believe it would be a serious error for us to consider this petition in isolation. We need to consider this petition in relation to the entire City of Livonia and especially to the two square mile area. I would appreciate having the information requested and I would ask you in return to take what we can give to you to review the things we feel so strongly about. Mr. Kleitch: I would welcome that additional information. We will provide Mr. Nagy a copy of our report tomorrow. We found in our analysis that the afternoon traffic operation of Six Mile and Haggerty was operating at a very congested level. This was in our analysis. We think even today a timing change may be necessary. You are right there are times when there is congestion out there now but, we believe that the congestion can be overcome. Mr. Kluver: You have made other studies along this area, have you not? What other studies have you made within the I-275 corridor and how recently? 10432 Mr. Kleitch: The Blain traffic study, the Jonna project traffic study. Mr. Kluver: That was in last 2 1/2 years? Mr. Kleitch: Yes. \r. Mr. Kluver: Did you consolidate some of that data from the Jonna and Blain studies, which projects are across the street from this proposed development, and marry that data into this traffic study? Is that shown in this analysis? Mr. Kleitch: No. We did not have time to incorporate all those numbers. We felt this is an accurate study given the assumption of the 5% increase. Mr. Kluver: The 5% increase encompasses the Jonna project and Blain project? Mr. Kleitch: Yes. Mr. LaPine: Are you saying the only thing you considered was Six Mile and Haggerty. That is the only thing you really studied. Mr. Kleitch: In this report - yes. Mr. Tent: The thing that bothers me is you don't have the time. We don't have the time either. We want to have all the facts before us. This is a public hearing. I resent the fact that you didn't come prepared and it bothers me because you are expecting an answer from us tonight and half of the documents we would like to look at aren't here and I agree with Mr. Engebretson and Mr. Kluver, we are talking _..New about the quality of life in the City of Livonia. We want to look at everything and we want people coming before us to present all the facts. Mona Emerson, 18850 Levan: I am concerned about the traffic that will be coming into our neighborhood. The developer tells us all these figures. They don't live in my house and every single time a building opens, the traffic on my street has doubled. Now this project is coming. I think that has to be addressed. Mr. Neumann, I am not trying to be rude to him but he tells us he has ideas of what is good for Livonia. I am Livonia. I am a part of this community. Mr. Neumann hasn't knocked on my door. He hasn't asked me what's good for me. I don't think this development is good for me or my property value. We have to look at Southfield. We have to look at Troy. We can see what has happened in Southfield. We also know in Southfield there has been a tremendous decrease in property values. Is this what we want in Livonia? Do we want flight from this City? What will we be left with? Twelve-story buildings, eight-story buildings where nobody wants to live in our City. We have to take these kinds of things into consideration. We do know there is a vacancy rate. We also know every time an office building goes up, someone leaves another office building and moves over. Fifty years from now Livonia could be another Detroit. We don't have much property left and I think it is very, very, very important we think of the future. I would like to think maybe my children would want to buy a house in Livonia. This has been a good community. It is a good community. `o.• There are joggers jogging on our streets at night time. There are 10433 women walking in the morning. I think that is pretty special that I can go out and walk in my City at 10:00 at night if I want to do that. We have to consider those kinds of elements. I appreciate this Planning Commission thinking and asking those kinds of questions. Nothing has changed. I got on the phone asking people have you changed your mind about development. No one wanted the k., Shenkman proposal. Everyone said the same thing. We don't want this for our City. In this corporate race for development what are we losing? I hope we will consider what Livonia might be in the future. He talked about traffic. He addressed all kinds of questions and there are so many things I could think of to say. I read an article that said Livonia and some other communities had to start looking at themselves if they wanted to continue to be desirable places to live. It said Livonia was already on the border and it would have to watch itself carefully or we could lose valuable population. Just recently we received nationwide recognition for a stress free City to live in. My brother who lives in Florida read this and was quite impressed. Sally Raphael had it on her radio show. Is this what we want to lose. I like Livonia but we are not going to have it if we continue to let every developer build what he thinks is best for us. Susan Pitts, 36393 Dardenella: I would like to go on record that I oppose this project. It would negatively impact the quality of life in this area. Even though I-275 could be considered a natural barrier between this project and rest of the residential community, I feel there would be enough spill over into our area to make this area no longer a desirable residential area. Roy McPhail, 36476 Bennett: I am totally opposed to this project. First of all 44111. these developers are here to make a profit. They come up with a 12-story building, a 8-story building and a 4-story garage. Now they know this will probably never pass. If it does pass, they have plans and if it doesn't pass, they will lower their standards. I have seen it with other major developments. I have seen it with the Shenkman property. I was here with the conception of Laurel Park. Laurel Park started out with two major tenants which never developed. It has Jacobson. It was supposed to have been below ground and now it is all above ground. The major impact is the traffic in this area. He is talking about a 5% increase. Look at Six Mile. Look at the three major housing developments on Six Mile. Nobody has said anything about this traffic. I don't believe this area can hold any more traffic than what it is supported right now. We have Six Mile and Seven Mile, all two lane roads. I think if you look at all the other projects in this area, if they are now only 35% to 45% complete, what happens when they are filled up. Look at Laurel Park. That is not fully developed yet. What happens when it opens up. The developers are talking about people coming from other areas other than Livonia. What is this going to contribute to the life and welfare of people in Livonia? I am totally opposed to this and I hope you consider the impact on people living in Livonia. Mr. Morrow: We spent a lot of time tonight on the viability of this project. I am convinced these people would not be here tonight if they hadn't done extensive study. I think the larger thing we have to consider •r.. here tonight is we are talking about zoning. A tremendous impact in 10434 zoning. Our charge is to find out if that is appropriate zoning in that corner and are we well served with what is already there or on books. Does Livonia really need this particular project even though the traffic could absorb it at 99% occupancy. As Mr. Kluver indicated this is a major project, one that cannot be resolved in a couple of hours. I guess the bottom line is do we need this " .• intensive zoning in addition to what we already have on the books? Mr. McCann: I have listened tonight very closely to the petitioner and what his intentions are to do with this project. He proposes a very nice looking project. However, the comments from the board, the comments from the audience and my own feelings with regard to this section are with the amount of expansion going on in the northwest section of Livonia, it would not be something that is feasible at this time to even start considering it and it is my understanding the board is looking to table this. It is not my objection to table it to get more information, my objection is to send a signal out to the people that we are not at some future point going to see this as being a feasible project in the near future. I think we can't use that much development in the near future. Mr. Engebretson: I would like to add to the comments made by Mr. Morrow and Mr. McCann. I agree with both of them. I don't think there is any question about the concern we have whether this is proper zoning. I am concerned we may be well upon our way of developing a Livonia version of Detroit's Ren Center where we put our desirable buildings into a small section of our City. I am really concerned about this. I think this matter cannot be settled in a two or three hour public hearing. That would be a hasty decision. I this this matter needs to be tabled. I think there is to be no misunderstanding as to signals. I think we need to verify that our feelings are correct. I have at least a dozen questions I would like to discuss with the Chief of Police, the Fire Chief, DPW and other department heads and I think we need to put this matter on the table allowing each commissioner an opportunity to formulate their questions. Let's move with caution. What we are doing is going to set the quality of life in Livonia going into the 21st century. I think Mrs. Emerson made some extremely valid points with respect to quality of life, stress free environment, the fact that a woman can go out jogging and walking alone without carrying a weapon or having an attack dog along as a companion. I think we need to make it very clear where we are coming from and get on with our business tonight and put this matter off until a future meeting. Mr. Tent: The fact is about the message Mr. McCann said. I too want to deliver a strong message and I want us to do our homework. I want to make sure that whatever we come up with they understand why we are opposed. We should not be too hasty to turn it down today and it materializes at some other point. I say let's do our homework. Mrs. Fandrei: I agree with my fellow commissioners. We need more information. We need more time to study it but at the same time I remember not too long ago when we were facing residents of the area and we were facing other proposals for development in the area and one of the 10435 things we felt strongly about was that developments should be on the west side of 275. That is where this proposal is. If we are going to have future developments in Livonia, to me this is the site that should be considered. I am giving the signal to our petitioner I don't think this is totally negative. I think the density is a little bit overbearing but at the same time I do feel this is the Nor location that should be considered for this type of development. Mr. LaPine: I will take an opposite view of my fellow commissioner who just spoke. I don't believe that just because it is along that corridor it should necessarily be rezoned to what the petitioner is requesting. I can understand the benefit to Schoolcraft College. It is good for them. In 75 years they will come up with a large complex of buildings. I think the basic thing here is how much office space do we want in Livonia? Just because it is along 275 doesn't mean it has to be an office complex. I believe he has come in with a fine complex. I think we have to consider people who live in the area. We were here first. You are causing problems to the people who live in that area. Any time any development of this magnitude comes in it causes problems. This talk about tax dollars. We could hire policemen today and we would still have to hire more police. With this project all we will do is catch up. I think this project is way too big and maybe in the future if all these other projects go ahead and we need additional office complexes, maybe at that time the City will feel we need it. It is my understanding the Mayor has negotiated with Mr. Shenkman. Mr. Shenkman has taken us to court. I think maybe what we should do is table this, study it some more but I don't want any signals going out in support. If I had to vote on it tonight I would turn it down. Until such time as we have something to go by, I don't think we should go along with rsio, any more high rise office complexes. There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 88-10-1-33 closed. Mr. Engebretson: I think we should table this item with no specific date in order to give the petitioners time to get us all the information that we asked for and to enable us to make a more informed decision. On a motion duly made by Mr. Engebretson, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was #11-215-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 22, 1988, on Petition 88-10-1-33 by Kenneth Neumann for Duke Associates requesting to rezone property located on the east side of Haggerty north of Six Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 7 from R-5C and P.L. to P.O. and from P.L. to P.0.III, the City Planning Commission does hereby table Petition 88-10-1-33. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 88-9-3-6 by Anthony Vettraino of Steve Petix Beverly Hills to vacate a portion of a 20 foot wide public alley located south of Grand River Avenue between `'► Antago and Rensellor in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 1. 10436 Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area. Mr. Nagy: We have a letter in our file from the Engineering Department stating if the above section of alley were to be vacated, it is recommended that a full width easement be retained over the same area in order '04111, to accommodate an existing sanitary sewer system. Further, according to their records there are at least two separate ownerships east of the alley being considered in this petition. Therefore, it appears that the alley at the rear of Lots 19 through 26 should be retained as a public alley with an appropriate public turnaround area being created at the westerly end thereof adjacent to the proposed vacated alley. We also have a letter in our file from Detroit Edison stating they have no objections to the proposal provided easements are reserved the full width of the existing alleys to protect their existing equipment. Also in our file is a letter from C. R. Charest on behalf of Drs. Frank McDevitt and Robert Koprince who maintain medical offices at 27513 Grand River Avenue. He states his clients wish to object to the proposal because of the fact they use the alley to access Antago Street so they can exit onto westbound Grand River Avenue. he states the alley is regularly used by their patients and business invitees of the Ever-Seven Building, which is contiguous to the doctors' property and vacating this property would create an inconvenience to many parties. Mr. McCann: Mr. Nagy, according to that letter by the doctors. My understanding was that alley was just going to be turned into a parking lot or used as part of a parking lot? Nov Mr. Nagy: It will become a private driveway for access to their off-street parking lot. Mr. McCann: Would you remind me of the purpose behind this. Mr. Nagy: The request really originated by the Zoning Board of Appeals. At the time that board examined the request on the part of the site plan petitioner when he appeared before their board to build on the intervening property between the alley and Grand River. Your property owner there chose to build at a zero setback line in conformance with established buildings along the area. In order to meet his off-street parking requirements across the alley, the Zoning Board of Appeals in their examination of the overall area made the suggestion that perhaps the alley should be investigated to determine whether or not it is needed for public purposes. We reviewed property owner's request to initiate this vacating action. It appears to me it will remain as an alley. I really think, after examining area and comments made by other property owners in the area, the City would be better served to retain the alley. Mr. McCann: You are recommending it not be vacated at this time and they go back to Zoning Board of Appeals and get a variance? r.. 10437 Mr. Nagy: They have been successful in getting the variance. The ZBA have granted them all their appeals. They can certainly go back to board and say we have looked at it and have had a hearing before the Planning Commission and notified the neighboring area and it was concluded after studying matter, not to vacate. New Mr. McCann: That would create no hardship to anyone? Mr. Nagy: You're right. No hardship to anyone. Mr. LaPine: Mr. Nagy, from looking at the maps of the area, the alley is already vacated from Inkster to Rensellor? Then we have a portion that is not vacated plus the portion we have here this evening and cross Antago it is not vacated and it is vacated again west of Rensellor except for a small strip. Mr. Nagy: That is correct. Mr. LaPine: If we were going to vacate, why didn't we do that all the way down from Rensellor to this parcel? I don't see what we are accomplishing by vacating. You might as well leave it the way it is and let the people have access. I don't think it is going to accomplish what the Zoning Board wants. Clarence Charest, 14600 Farmington Road: I like the comments that I have heard. It is very rare that I appear before this board and they have the same ideas I have. I would like to bring up one thing to your attention. Grand River does not show that the center median is a boulevard there and that is primarily the problem the doctors have. On Antago going north there is an access to the westbound traffic on r., Grand River with an island they can cut through. Without the alley they have to go on Rensellor and then east. There is a substantial difference. I think your records would show some years ago the previous owner tried to vacate the alley and it was denied at that time. We do use it and it has been used by them for 33 years and they would like to continue to use it. Mr. Morrow: To go along with what I hear here I have been convinced that as long as the public is served by this alley, we should not vacate it. We vacate them when there is no longer a need by the public. I am convinced the public would still require use of the alley for ingress and egress. I support not vacating. Ron Mathis, President of Ever-Seven Sports, 27531 Grand River: I don't want to break the tide. We are also opposed to vacation of the alley. Number one we get along very well with the doctors next door, we cooperate with each other and we use each others parking lots. On the same token that alley is used by people who use our building to exit our building to go on to either Antago or Rensellor. We were here for the same thing three or four years ago. I am just here to express our opposition to this vacating. There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 88-9-3-6 closed. 10438 On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mr. Kluver and unanimously adopted, it was #11-216-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 22, 1988 on Petition 88-9-3-6 by Anthony Vettraino of Steve Petix Beverly Hills to vacate a portion of a 20 foot wide public alley located �► south of Grand River Avenue between Antago and Rensellor in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 1, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 88-9-3-6 be denied for the following reasons: 1) The subject alley is needed for public access to the several abutting properties. 2) Vacating the subject alley would not guarantee unobstructed public use of the right-of-way. 3) Public right-of-way should be vacated only when it can be demonstrated that it is no longer needed to serve public purposes. FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 12.08.030 of the Livonia Code of Ordinances. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 88-10-3-10 by the City Planning Commission to vacate a portion of right-of-way on Norfolk between Mayfield and Hubbard in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 3. o.. Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area. Mr. Nagy: We have a letter in our file from the Engineering Department stating they have no objections to the proposal. We also have a letter in our file from Detroit Edison stating they have no objection to the proposal provided easements are reserved the full width of the existing Right-of-Way to protect their existing equipment. There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 88-10-3-10 closed. On a motion duly made Mr. LaPine, seconded by Mr. Kluver and unanimously approved, it was #11-217-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 22, 1988 on Petition 88-10-3-10 by the City Planning Commission to vacate a portion of right-of-way on Norfolk between Mayfield and Hubbard in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 3, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 88-10-3-10 be approved subject to the retention of a full width easement to protect public utilities, for the following reasons: 1) The subject right-of-way is not needed for public access purposes. Now 2) The subject right-of-way can best be utilized for private development purposes. 10439 3) No City department or public utility has objected to the proposed vacating provided a full width easement is retained. FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 12.08.030 of the Livonia Code of Ordinances. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. Mr. McCann, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 88-10-3-11 by the City Planning Commission to vacate a portion of Schoolcraft Road between Eckles and I-96 in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 19. Mr. Bakewell presented a map showing the property under petition plus the existing zoning of the surrounding area. Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in our file from Detroit Edison stating they have no objection to the proposal provided easements are reserved the full width of the existing road to protect our existing equipment. There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 88-10-3-11 closed. On a motion duly made by Mr. LaPine, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously approved, it was #11-218-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 22, 1988 on Petition 88-10-3-11 by the City Planning Commission to `a. vacate a portion of Schoolcraft Road between Eckles and I-96 in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 19, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 88-10-3-11 be approved for the following reasons: 1) The subject right-of-way is not needed for public roadway purposes. 2) The subject right-of-way can best be utilized in conjunction with the development of the adjacent private property. 3) The proposed vacating will insure that the subject right-of-way area is placed back on the City's tax rolls. 4) No City department or public utility has objected to the proposed vacating. FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 12.08.030 of the Livonia Code of Ordinances. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. I Mr. Kluver: I would like the staff to write a letter to John DelSignore 1- regarding meeting the site plan requirements. yr 10440 Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, announced that the public hearing portion of the meeting is concluded and the Commission would proceed with items pending before it. On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent and seconded by Mr. McCann, it was #11-219-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on October 18, 1988 on Petition 88-9-1-25 by K. M. Phillipou and John Dalfonsi requesting to rezone property located on the north side of Ann Arbor Trail, west of Wayne Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32 and the Southwest 1/4 of Section 33 from RUF to R-7, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend that Petition 88-9-1-25 be denied for the following reasons: 1) That the proposed change of zoning represents spot zoning in the area which is contrary to good land use planning. 2) That the proposed change of zoning is incompatible to and not in harmony with the surrounding uses in the area. 3) That the proposed change of zoning represents an encroachment of multiple family type zoning in a single family residential neighborhood. 4) That there are no public utilities available to serve the subject site. FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended. '41111. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Kluver, Tent, McCann, Morrow, Sobolewski, Engebretson, Vyhnalek NAYS: LaPine, Fandrei ABSENT: None Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made by Mr. Engebretson, seconded by Mr. McCann and unanimously adopted, it was #11-220-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on November 1, 1988 on Petition 88-9-2-47 by Mt. Hope Memorial Gardens requesting waiver use approval to erect a pole barn within a cemetery located on the east side of Middlebelt Road, north of Six Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 12, the City Planning Commission does hereby continue to table Petition 88-9-2-47. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver, seconded by Mr. Tent and unanimously adopted, it was `. 10441 #11-221-88 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, the City Planning Commission does hereby establish and order that a public hearing be held to determine whether or not to rezone property located on the south side of Schoolcraft, east of Farmington Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 27 from C-2 to RE. AND THAT, notice of the above hearing shall be given in accordance with the provisions of Section 23.06 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made by Mr. McCann and seconded by Mr. LaPine, it was #11-222-88 RESOLVED that approval of the minutes of the 568th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings held by the City Planning Commission on November 1, 1988 be tabled until next regular meeting. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Tent, McCann, Morrow, Sobolewski, Engebretson, LaPine, Fandrei NAYS: None ABSTAIN: Kluver, Vyhnalek ABSENT: None Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. `r.. On a motion duly made by Mr. Kluver and seconded by Mr. Morrow, it was #11-223-88 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 88-10-8-28 by Bob Evans Farms, Inc. requesting approval of all plans required by Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543 in connection with a proposal to construct a new office building located on the south side of Plymouth Road at Laurel Avenue in Section 33 subject to the following conditions: 1) That Site and Landscape Plan for Bob Evans dated 11-21-88 prepared by Bob Evans, Inc. is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 2) That the Building Plan for Bob Evans dated 11-21-88 prepared by Bob Evans, Inc. is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 3) That the new landscaping be installed on site prior to building occupancy and thereafter maintained in a healthy condition. 4) There shall not be any more than 12 trucks on site at one time. A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following: AYES: Kluver, Tent, McCann, Morrow, Sobolewski, Engebretson, Fandrei NAYS: LaPine ABSENT: None 'vu. 10442 Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mrs. Fandrei and unanimously adopted, it was #12-224-88 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve Petition 88-11-8-30 by Jerry Knoppow requesting approval of all plans required by Section 18.58 of Zoning Ordinance #543 in connection with a proposal to construct an addition to an existing retail sales building located on the south side of Plymouth Road between Stark and Farmington Road in Section 33 subject to the following conditions: 1) That Site Plan 880406, Sheet 2 dated 11-18-88 by Basil George Heath, Architect is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 2) That Building Plan 880406, Sheet 1 dated 11-18-88 by Basil George Heath, Architect is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 3) That the landscaping shown on Sheet 2 is hereby approved with the added condition that a sprinkler system be provided for the front landscaped area of the building. Mr. Vyhnalek, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 569th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings held on November 22, 1988 was adjourned at 10:45 p.m. vow CITY PLANNING COMMISSION J:mes C. McCann, Secretary ATTEST: �, •� , Do :ld Vyhnale.f Chairman f jg