HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 1968-10-15 5437
MINUTES OF THE 198th REGULAR MEETING
AND A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY PLANNING
tO: COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, October 15, 1968, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia,
held its 198th Regular Meeting and a Public Hearing at the Livonia City Hall,
33001 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Charles W. Walker, Chairman, called the Public Hearing to order at approximately
8:30 p.m. with approximately 125 interested persons in the audience.
Members present: Charles U. Walker Raymond W. Tent Harry Wrightman
Donald Heusted Marvin Moser Robert Colomina
Members absent: None
Messrs. John J. Nagy, Assistant Planning Director; Ralph H. Bakewell, Planner III;
David Perry, Assistant City Attorney, Daniel R. Andrew, Industrial Development
Coordinator, were present.
Mr. Wrightman announced the first item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-2-19 by
Joseph Urman requesting to be granted a waiver use permit to fill
in a portion of Parcel 14P1b2b which falls within the flood plain,
located on the north side of Greenland, approximately 150 feet west
of Henry Ruff Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 14.
Mr. Walker stated there is a letter in the file from the Engineering Division
recommending approval of this petition.
Mr. Joseph Urman, 9415 Whitcomb, Detroit 28, petitioner, was present and stated
that if he gives land to the City for a road without getting 60' in the rear the
land will be useless.
Mr. Tent questioned how long Mr. Urman has owned this property and when he pur-
chased it, was the flood plain there.
Mr. Urman stated he has owned the land for about a year and that he discussed it
with the City at the time he bought it. He stated the prior owner had had
difficulties with the City regarding the filling of the property. Mr. Urman stated
he will fill in the land himself and he will allow the City to build the road and
that the City Engineer said it would not interfere with the flood plain.
Mr. Tent stated he is concerned about the flood plain land in the City and that
sometimes it is filled in without the City's knowledge, and questioned if this
would establish a precedent where somebody in the future could fill in flood plain
as long as they only filled to a certain height.
Mr. [.Irightman stated he believes every case has to be considered on its own merit
and in this case the Engineer has drawn out definite lines for filling and is
covered by Enginee:..ing requirements. He stated he believes every case should have
to go through the same procedure.
Mr. Nagy, Assistant Planning Director, stated that this man, by his site plan, will
attemp to perform compensating grading so as not to diminish the overall capacity
of the flood plain area, and that what he fills and what he takes out will be
balanced. He stated the total capacity of the flood plain will remain the same.
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Mr. Wrightman questioned the dedication of property to the City.
LI Mr. Urman stated that if the City builds the road he will dedicate the 60' to them,
and that he has discussed the dedication with Mr. Strasser. He stated he is in
agreement to dedicate the land as soon as he gets the permit to fill in.
Mr. Robert Bennett, 32210 Myrna, questioned the distance from the edge of the
proposed right-of-way to the boundary of the existing flood plain and if he will
have less than a suitable amount of land on which to erect a residence.
Mr. Walker stated that if he dedicates the land to the City and without filling
in he would not have enough land.
Discussion was held regarding the size of the house and the setback required and
Mr. Walker read a letter from the City Engineer regarding the Zoning Board of
Appeals' denial of this request because a 50' setback is required in that zoning
and relating to the filling of a portion of the flood plain creating no problems.
Mr. Bennett questioned where the fill will take place.
Mr. Nagy explained the location of the land proposed to be filled.
Mr. Bennett stated he experienced a flood in the past June and he believes flood
plain area should be guarded by the City. Mr. Bennett stated that if he removes
as much dirt as he fills ht would not be opposed to this petition.
A resident, 29215 Grove, stated he understood that dirt could be moved from one
place to another on your property without a petition and unless this man is actually
displacing some water, why does he need a permit.
Mr. Nagy stated that Mr. Urman is going to do compensating grading for balance
and the City now has an ordinance requiring the petition.
A resident, questioned if the development to the west will add to the volume of
water within the creek.
Mr. Tent stated that the City now has an ordinance prohibiting indiscriminate fillin
of flood plain but in this case the Engineer has stated there will be no problems.
Mr. Kockh, a resident, stated he owns the adjacent parcel #Plela and that the
flood plain on the man's property is lower than the rest of the flood plain and
water stays in there a considerable amount of time. He stated it would be to a
great advantage if it is filled in, at least to the same level of the rest of the
flood plain.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Walker stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-9-1-37 by
Alexander Spiro requesting to rezone property located on the north
side of Five Mile Road, approximately 660 feet west of Harrison Avenue
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13, from RUF and R-7 to P.S.
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Mr. Alexander Spiro, 28550 Five Mile Road, petitioner, was present and stated
that he owns the adjoining P.S. property and has a nursing home on it which he
wishes to expand. He said he has ample space now to increase but to put up the
building he proposes he needs the additional property which will be about 25' of
the adjoining parcel. He stated he hopes to have 180 beds and proposes a
structure similar to Marycrest.
Mr. Urightman questioned if Mr. Spiro has a layout of the proposed home.
Mr. Spiro stated, yes, and submitted a plot plan to the Commission and discussion
was held regarding it.
Mr. Walker questioned if Mr. Spiro is in agreement regarding the right-of-way.
Mr. Spiro stated he is in agreement for the 75' but not the rest.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Urightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-38 by
Alexander Spiro requesting to rezone property located on the north-
east corner of Morlock and Middlebelt Road in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 1, from C-1 to P.S.
Mr. Spiro, petitioner, stated there are thirteen lots here, all 20' x 74' , and
since he owns a nursing home on Morlock Avenue he has been concerned about what
might happen to this land with regard to shutting him off so, being concerned, he
purchased the property. He stated he plans no buildings on it but he does have
plans for a 40 bed addition to his present nursing home and the land could be
included in the requirement.
Mr. Wrightman questioned if Mr. Spiro is in the process of purchasing the land.
Mr. Spiro stated he owns three-fourths of it now and there is a letter in the file
from the person who owns it stating he has no objection. Mr. Spiro stated he
bought the land to conserve it.
There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this item,
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-8-2-20 by
Chick-N-Joy Systems, Inc. , requesting to build a carry-out restaurant
on property located on the north side of Five Mile Road between Merri-
man and Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 14.
ML. R. Spoon, 19771 James Couzens, was present representing the petitioner, and
stated the proposal is a 34' x 48' colonial-design building and is a carry-out
system. He stated there will be no provisions for eating in cars, but there will
be a small area of tables for eating inside.
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Mr. Tent stated he feels concern over the fact that it seems as though all the
prime locations in the City are going for small restaurants and there are so
many chicken places being built it looks as though they are in competition with
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gas stations; we have one right after another on mile roads.
Mr. Don Donahoo, 31039 Roycroft, stated he would not like to see this restaurant
go up. He said there is a Burger Chef right behind him now and he has spent many
sleepless nights because of it.
Mr. Tent stated that it is because of conditions like this that the City now has
this ordinance, but at one time if a couple of tables were put into a restaurant
it was no longer a drive-in restaurant. He stated that the Commissioncasked for
an ordinance requiring all restaurants catering food to come before the Board be-
cause the City has so many of the. Mr. Tent said the concern of the Commission
is how many can be supported in the City; that is the purpose of this hearing
tonight and his feeling is that unless this type of business can be controlled
we don't want it.
Mr. Donahoo stated he is in agreement with that.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-3-9 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to vacate that portion
of Elsie Avenue between Berwick and Merriman and that portion of
Barkley Avenue between Berwick and Merriman in the Northeast 1/4 of
Section 22.
Mr. Walker stated there is a letter in the file from Consumers Power regarding
easement maintenance.
Mr. Clemens, Engineer, Consumers Power Company, 11801 Farmington Road, stated they
have no objection to this particular petition because there are no gas mains in-
volved.
Mr. Richard Cram, 15137 Arden, asked the meaning of vacating and who will maintain
the roads after vacation, remove snow, etc. , so people can get in and out of their
garages.
Mr. Walker stated that vacation means the City would relinquish any right to the
property and that the road would be divided right down the center line and would
go to the abutting property owners; the City would remove any evidence of the
existing street and would put the land back in its original form.
Mr. Cram questioned if the people would have to maintain their own road.
Mr. Colomina stated there would be no road.
Mr. Tent stated that they would actually be getting antheycould putof penrope if
and the owner would have to take over that property; up
they wanted to or they could have a private drive along their property line.
Mr. Cram stated that this would entail about a 120' driveway which he would have to
put in.
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Mr. Wrightman stated this is true but some day the City may improve the road
and pave it and the property owners would be assessed for one-half the road
for the full length of their property. He stated the Engineering Division has
stated that because of the many roads of this nature in the City the cost of
maintaining them is too great unless there is a dire need for their service.
We have been advised that these two roads could be eliminated, taxes saved, and
there would not be any burden as far as traffic flow in the area is concerned:
He stated that if they are not vacated, but improved in the future, the people
adjacent to the streets would be assessed for the paving of that street. Mr.
Wrightman suggested that an estimate be made as to which would cost the most;
paving by the City or vacating it and improving it themselves.
Mr. Bob Mains, 14678 Barkley, stated that he has a garage on the back of his
property and believes it would cost him more to put in a driveway and fence than
the cost of hard paving. He stated he is opposed to the City abandoning this
property.
Mrs. Mary Sutter, 14715 Melrose, stated they purchased their home on a corner
because they wanted to be on a corner and if the street is vacated she would
no longer be on the corner and she said they do not want this extra property.
A resident, 14712 Auburndale, questioned if the property could be turned over to
the property owners without tearing out the street.
Mr. Wrightman stated there is no agreementwhere the street has to be removed, but
the City felt that if the people wanted to include the property along with their
present ownership, this would be the best thing to do.
Mr. Walker requested a show of hands of the people who were in favor of the streets
remaining as they are and facing, at a later date, the cost of improving it.
There were 18.
Mr. Walker requested a show of hands of the people who favored vacating the streets
There were 12.
Questions were raised concerning increase in taxes.
A resident, 14678 Auburndale, questioned if a traffic count had been taken on these
streets and is there a figure on how much it costs to maintain these streets.
Mr. Walker stated that unfortunately the commission does not have the answers to
all of these questions this evening, but the Engineering Division does since they
have been studying the City in sections and these streets fall into a large sec-
tion of the City which has been under study by the Engineer.
Mr. Tent stated that the hearing tonight is being held for the purpose of getting
opinions from the effected people and indications as to whether the vacation of
these streets should be pursued by the Commission.
Mr. Nagy indicated there would probably be a 10 - 20 percent increase in taxes.
Mr; Perry stated that there was an increase of $400 in assessment the amount of
increased tax would probably be a $30 a year maximum,
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Mr. Robert Bennett suggested that a report be obtained from the Engineering
Division and the Tax Assessor covering these questions.
Mr. John McDonald, 14677 Auburndale, questioned the possibility of relocating a
telephone pole that is on his property.
Mr. Bob Mains, 14673 Auburndale; Mr, R. Cram, 15137 Arden, and Mr. Robert, 14712
Auburndale, requested to be notified of further meetings regarding this vacation
petition.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Urightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-3-10 by
The City Planning Commission on its own motion to vacate either
Clarita Avenue between Stamford and Farmington or that portion of
Pickford Avenue between Stamford and Farmington in the Northeast
1/4 of Section 22.
Mr. Walker stated there are letters in the file from Detroit Edison and Consumers
Power requesting to maintain easements for their utilities if these streets are
vacated.
Mr. Mike Sutter, 33590 Clarita, stated his objections to this petition and stated
he mould like to keep the street open.
Mr. Tent stated that the Commission decided that Clarita will not be touched at
all; that that portion has been deleted from this petition.
Mr. William Hanniagan, 18371 Irving, stated his objection to this petition be-
cause if Pickford is cut off and Irving left and not being a through street, he
will be closed off.
Mr. Nagy stated that the Commission's desire now is to vacate Pickford only be-
tween Myron and Filmore and that the balance of the street remain to provide access
into Filmore.
Discussion was held regarding the condition of the streets and the cost of the
maintenance of them and the fact that both schools in the area use Pickford on
their bus routes.
Mrs. Freda Naples, 18510 Irving and Mr. Al Davidson, 18493 Farmington Road,
requested to be notified of further meetings regarding this item.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this petition.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Urightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 63-9-7-4 by the
City Planning Commission, pursuant to a request from the Industrial
Development Coordinator to amend Part I of the Master Plan, the Master
Thoroughfare Plan, so as to provide a north/south street between the
Industrial Road and Glendale Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 27.
There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this petition.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
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IL Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-9-6-9 by
the City Planning Commission, pursuant to City Council Resolution
#747-68 to amend Section 11.03(h) of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance, to provide for the waiving by the City Council of the
1,000 feet of distance required between Class "C" liquor licensed
establishments.
There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement..
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-31 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located on the north side of Dover Avenue between Linville Avenue
and Parent in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32, from RUF to R-1.
There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Brightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-33 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located south of Seven Mile Road, approximately 380 feet west of
Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 10, from C-2 and
R-3 to C-l.
Mr. Walker stated that this involves a case that went to the Zoning Board of
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Appeals.
A resident on Stamford Avenue, stated she is happy to see that the City is doing
something about extending the depth of the commercial zoning in this area..
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Urightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-32 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located between Greenland Road and Puritan Avenue, west of Henry
Ruff Road, in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 14, from RUF to R-4.
Mr. Robert Sverid, 30510 Puritan, stated that he has attempted to have one lot
split to allow him to build
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Mr. Tent questioned if Mr. Sverid is trying to sell the back half of his lot.
Mr. Sverid stated, no, he wants to build ail-Lorne on it for himself.
Mr. Tent questioned if Mr. Sverid was attracted by the half-acre lots in the
Iiie area when he purchased the lot.
Mr. Sverid stated he liked the area because of the frontage and trees.
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IL; Mr. Tent stated there is a lot of land on Six Mile which are depth lots where
they could do the same thing; the frontage could be commercial and the inter-
section residential. He stated the civic association there kept the lots at
80' and fought encroachment. He stated the idea of the area is to give the
people large lots.
Mr. Sverid stated that a precedent has been set inasmuch as homes are being built
on lots where they have obtained permission from the Zoning Board of appeals.
Mr. Tent stated they would have to prove a hardship before they could do that and
by keeping the lots large we will bring in better homes.
Mr. H. L. Koch, 12685 Monte Vista, Detroit, owner of lots Plclb and Plcla, stated
that almost every person in Bell Creek Estates has been contacted and the majority
of the property owners in this area do not wish their property to be split. A
petition containing 106 signatures was submitted to the Commission. He stated
further that if this is granted and goes into effect he believes it will be an
injustice to the property owners.
Mr. Sverid questioned if Mr. Koch had recently split lots in this area.
Mr. Koch stated, yes, but they are all over one-half acre.
Mr. Tent questioned Mr. Koch if he had deteriorated the lot size in any respect.
Mr. Koch replied, no, he has not.
Mr. Tent asked if he had conformed to the half-acre requirement.
Mr. Koch stated he actually increased it.
Mr. William Laakso, 30542 Puritan, questioned why, if this area is RUF, there are
six lots which have been split and are existing under the half-acre restriction.
Mr. Urightman suggested that perhaps they were split before the zoning; prior to
1950.
Mr. Laakso stated he feels the precedent was set when these six lots were split
and made under one-half acre.
Mr. Tent stated the precedent is RUF and the more small lots you have, the more
homes and the more children and the higher the taxes. He stated we are trying
to keep the character of the neighborhood as it is.
Mr. Sverid stated that Lot 56 was split after the ordinance.
Mr. Tent stated that this must have been done through the Zoning Board of Appeals
as a hardship.
Mr. Walker stated that we have a master plan which specifies the use of land in the
City regarding size of lots and it is the duty of the Commission to uphold that.
He stated that the Commission made these designations and if they are wrong some-
thing should be done about the map, not as individual cases but as what is good
for the City as a whole.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item.
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Mr. Walker stated the time will be taken under advisement.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Colomina, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-120-68 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby adjourn
the Public Hearing held on Tuesday, October 15, 1968, at approx-
imately 11: 20 p.m.
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Mr. Walker, Chairman, called the 193th regular Meeting to order at approximately
11: 35 p.m. with approximately the same number of people present as were present
for the public hearing.
Mr. Wrightman announced the first item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-2-9 by
Joseph Urman requesting to be granted a waiver use permit to fill
in a portion of parcel 14P1b2b which falls within the flood plain,
located on the north side of Greenland, approximately 150 feet west
of Henry Ruff Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 14.
On a motion duly made by Mr. tlrightman, seconded by Mr. Colomina, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-121-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-7-2-19 as submitted by Joseph
Urman requesting to be granted a waiver use permit to fill in
a portion of parcel 14P1b2b which falls within the flood plain,
located on the north side of Greenland, approximately 150 feet
west of Henry Ruff Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 14, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition 68-7-2-19 be approved subject to adherence to
Grading Plan # , for the following reason:
(1) This grading and filling operation will not diminish the
area and water-holding capacity of the flood plain, and
will cause no problems.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was
sent to proc.erty owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City
Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Tent stated that he is favor of this, but he thinks the stipulation should be
made that a Quit Claim Deed be obtained and the petition not processed through
the Council until the Deed is executed.
Mr. Urightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-9-1-37 by
Alexander Spiro requesting to rezone property located on the
north side of Five Mile Road, approximately 660 feet west of
Harrison Avenue in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13, from RUF
and R-7 to P.S.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated this item will taken under advisement.
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Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-9-1-38 by
Alexander Spiro requesting to rezone property located on the north-
east corner of Morlock and Middlebelt Road in the Northwest 1/4 of
Section 1, from C-1 to P.S.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated this item will be taken under advisement,
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-8-2-20 by
Chick-N-Joy Systems, Inc. , requesting to build a car,y-out restaurant
on property located on the north side of Five Mile Road between Merri-
man and Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 14.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Heusted, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-122-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-8-2-20 as sumbitted by Chick-N-
Joy Systems, Inc. , requesting to build a carry-out restaurant
on property located on the north side of Five Mile Road between
Merriman and Middlebelt Road in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 14,
the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition 68-8-2-20 be denied for the following reasons:
(1) The relationship of this facility to the existing and
proposed commercial development could adversely effect it,
(2) The proposed use would not be in harmony and appropriate
with the orderly development of the surrounding area.
(3) The location and size of the proposed use, the nature and
intensity of the principal use and accessory uses, the site
layout and its relationship to streets giving access, shall
be such that the traffic to and from the use and assembly
of persons in conjunction with the use, will be hazardous
and inconvenient to the area and could conflict with the
heavy traffic volume of the area.
(4) The location of the building and its accessories will be
such that the proposed use could have a detrimental effect
upon the neighboring property and the neighboring area in
general. It may impair the value of the neighboring property
and discourage the appropriate development and use of the
adjacent land or building.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice the above hearing was sent to
property owners within 500 feet, petitioner and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the motion carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-3-9 by
Ilie The City Planning Commission on its own motion to vacate that
portion of Elsie Avenue between Berwick and Merriman and that
portion of Barkley Avenue between Berwick and Merriman in the
Northeast 1/4 of Section 22.
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Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated this item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-3-10 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to vacate either
Clarita Avenue between Stamford and Farmington or that portion
of Pickford Avenue between Stamford and Farmington in the North-
east 1/4 of Section 9.
Mr. Walker stated this item will be taken under advisement.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-9-7-4 by
the City Planning Commission pursuant to a request from the Industrial
Development Coordinator to amend Part I of the Master Plan, the
Master Thoroughfare Plan, so as to provide a north/south street
between the Industrial Road and Glendale Avenue in the Northwest
1/4 of Section 27.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Colomina, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-123-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-9-7-4 as submitted by the City
Planning Commission pursuant to a request from the Industrial
Development Coordinator to amend Part of the Master Plan, the
Master Thoroughfare Plan, so as to provide a north/south street
between the Industrial Road and Glendale Avenue in the North-
west 1/4 of Section 27 described as follows:
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"The east 60 feet of the west 950 feet of the south 898
feet of the north 2,113 feet of the Northwest 1/4 of Section
27, City of Livonia, Wayne County, ,Michigan (known as West-
more Avenue)."
And, having given proper notice of such hearing as required by
Act 285 of the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931 as amended, the
City Planning Commission does hereby adopt said amendment as
part of the Master Thoroughfare Plan, Part I of the Master Plan
of the City of Livonia, which is incorporated herein by reference,
the same having been adopted by resolution of the City Planning
Commission, with all amendments thereto, and further that this
amendment shall be filed with the City Council , City Clerk and
the City Planning Commission; and a certified copy shall also
be forwarded to the Wayne County Register of Deeds for recording.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declardd the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
#10-124-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-9-6-9 as submitted by the City
Planning Commission, pursuant to City Council Resolution No. 747-
68 to amend Section 11.03(h) of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning
Ordinance, to provide for the waiving by the City Council of the
1,000 feet of distance required between Class "C" liquor licensed
establishment, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend
to the City Council that Petition 68-9-6-9 be denied for the follow-
ing reason:
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(1) The calibre and quality of development will not be
enhanced by an increase in Class "C" liquor licensed
establishments within our City.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above public hearing
was published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer
under date of September 25, 1968 and notice of such hearing
was sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Michigan Bell Telephone
Company and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-31 by
the City Planning Commisson on its own motion to rezone property
located on the north side of Dover Avenue between Linville Ave-
nue and Parent in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32, from RUF to
R-1.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Heusted, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-125-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-7-1-31 as submitted by the City
Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property located
on the north side of Dover Avenue between Linville Avenue and
Parent in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 32, from RUF to R-1, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council
that Petition 68-7-1-31 be approved for the following reasons:
IL; (1) This is to rectify an error in the Zoning Map.
(2) This will permit the use of lots that have been subdivided.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer,
under date of September 25, 1968 and notice of such hearing was
sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Consumers Power Company,
Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone
Company and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Servicd.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-33 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located south of Seven Mile Road, approximately 33O feet west
of Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9, from C-2
and R-3 to C-1.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Colomina, and unanimously
adopted, it was
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#10-126-68 RESOLVED that, pursuaht to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-7-1-33 as submitted by the
City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located eouth of Seven Mile Road, approximately 380 feet west
of Farmington Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 9, from
C-2 and R-3 to C-1, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 68-7-1-33 be
approved for the following reasons:
(1) There is a need to logically expand the depth of
commercial development in this area to make it more
usable.
(2) It is virtually impossible to develop commercial property
on the existing zoning in the area and conform to the
Ordinance requirements.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under
date of September 25, 1968 and notice of such hearing was sent
to the Detorit Edison Company, Consumers Power Company, Chesa-
peake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company
and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-7-1-32 by
the City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located between Greenland Road and Puritan Avenue, west of Henry
Ruff Road, in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 14, from RUF to R-4.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-127-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-7-1-32 as submitted by the
City Planning Commission on its own motion to rezone property
located between Greenland Road and Puritan Avenue, west of
Henry Ruff Road, in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 14, from RUF
to R-4, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to
the City Council that Petition 68-7-1-32 be denied for the
following reasons:
(1) This zoning would not be compatible to the overall
zoning pattern of the area.
(2) The reduction of standards in this area would encourage
the further division of land which would not be in har-
mony with the overall land use pattern' of the area.
ILW FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer,
under date of September 25, 1968 and notice of such hearing was
sent to the Detroit Edison Company, Consumers Power Company,
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Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone
Company and City Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolutLon
is adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-8-1-36 by
Thomas E. George to rezone property located on Middlebelt between
Broadmoor and Sunnydale in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13,
from RUF to C-2.
Mr. Patrick Duggan, representing the petitioner, stated he would like to emphasize
that Mr. George is a long time resident of Livonia do because of the widening of
the road this property is not suitable for esidential use and also because there
is existing commercial near it. He stated the value of residential property is
increasing but this particular piece is no because of its location. Mr. Duggan
stated that he could not frankly state tonight what they have in mind for this
property, but they cannot find a prospective buyer when it is zoned residential
and are asking for rezoning so the owner can use his property.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Urightman, it was
#10-128-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
October 15, 1968 on Petition 68-8-1-36 as submitted by Thomas
E. George to rezone property located on Middlebelt between
Broadmoor and Sunnydale in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 13,
from RUF to C-2, the City Planning Commission does hereby
ILO recommend to the City Council that Petition 68-8-1-36 be
denied for the following reasons:
(1) The encroachment of commercial zoning along mile roads
interferes with their primary funcition of carrying
large volumes of traffic and tends to cause a hazardous
condition due to numerous points of vehicular ingress
and egress.
(2) This would constitute spot zoning because this proposed
petition does not relate to any existing zoning or land
use pattern in the area.
(3) This proposed rezoning would constitute an encroachment
into an existing residential neighborhood.
(4) There are great quantities of vacant commercially zoned
land within the City.
(5) This proposed zoning is in conflict with the Planning
Commission's Master Plan for commercial developc.ent.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under
date of September 25, 1968 and notice of such hearing was sent
to the Detroit Edison Company, Consumers Power Company, Chesapeake
ILW & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell Telephone Company and City
Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Walker, Tent, Wrightman, Heusted, Colomina
NAYS: Moser
ABSENT: None
Mr. Tent stated that Mr. Duggan knows the Commission's feeling regarding specu-
lative type zoning. Mr. Tent stated he admires Mr. Duggan's honesty in stating
he has nothing in mind for the use of the property and for that reason he recom-
mended denial of this at this time, but at such a time as he comes with an
establishment for a C-2 area he will be believed because this time he told the
truth.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is a letter dated 8/1/68
from Joseph Slatkin requesting a one-year extension for Country
Homes Estates Subdivision #4 located in the Southeast 1/4 of Sec-
tion 8.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Heusted, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-129-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a request dated 8/1/68 from Joseph
Slatkin requesting a one-year extension on the preliminary plat
for Country Homes Estates Subdivision #4 located in the South-
east 1/4 of Section 8, the City Planning Commission does hereby
grant said request subject to all the conditions previously im-
posed on the development, for the following reasons:
(1) The concept for development has not changed.
(2) The preliminary plat is consistent with the plan
previously approved by the Commission.
Section 6.07 (2) Subdivision Rules and Regulations states "The tentative approval
shall be valid for a period of one (1) year only from the date of the approving
resolution unless the subdivider applies for and obtains an extension of such
period.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. t•lrightman announced the next item on the agenda is a request for a one-year
extension of Judson Gardens Subdivision No. 4 located in the North-
east 1/4 of Section 17.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Colomina, seconded by Mr. Tent, and unanimously
adopted, it was
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#10-130-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a request dated 4/11/68 from L. R.
Schrader requesting a one-year extension on the preliminary plat
for Judson Gardens Subdivision No, 4 located in the Northeast 1/4
of Section 17, the City Planning Commission does hereby grant said
request subject to all the conditions previously imposed on the
development, for the following reasons:
(1) The development concept has not changed.
(2) The plan conforms to all the Ordinance requirements of
the City.
Section 6.07 (2) Subdivision Rules and Regulations stated "The tentative approval
shall be valid for a period of one (1) year only from the date of the approving
resolution unless the subdivision applies for and obtains an extension of such
period."
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. t lrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-2-6-3
(portion covering Section 11.03) only by the City Planning Commission
on its own motion to amend Section 4.05, 4.06, 4.10, 11.03 and 18.06
of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning Ordinance.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-131-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
March 19, 1968 on Petition 68-2-6-3 as submitted by the City Planning
Commission on its own motion to amend Sections 4.05, 4.06, 4.10, 11.03
and 18.06 of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning Ordinance and amendments to
Sections 4.10 and 18.06 having been approved on March 19, 1968 and
amendments to Sections 4.05 and 4.06 having been approved on July 23,
1968, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that the final portion of Petition 68-2-6-3 be approved;
specifically that
Section 11.03 be amended to read as follows:
Section 11.03 (a) Gasoline Service Stations: To add sentences (11) and (12).
11. No additional or new gas stations shall be constructed, installed or
operated within a radius of one-thousand-three-hundred (1300) feet of
any presently existing gas station or car wash facility dispensing
gasoline.
12. Outdoor storage of rubbish and junked equipment or parts shall be
prohibited unless such rubbish, etc. is stored behind the principle
building in an obscure location that is enclosed with a masonary
screen wall. When such screening is provided, such rubbish, etc. shall
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never be stacked or heaped higher than the height of the screening
110 wall.
Section 11.03 (k) Trampoline or tumbling rebound centers:
Delete all of this paragraph.
Section 11.03 (1) Amend title of paragraph to read:
1. Open-air sales, display and/or rental of utility trailers and travel
(vacation type) trailers up to twenty (20) feet in length designed
to be towed by an automobile (not including house trailers) provided
that ...
Section 11.03 (m) Amend to read:
(m) Certain additional open-air business uses as herein specified:
(1) Retail sales of plant materials not grown on site and sales of
lawn furniture, playground equipment and other home garden supplies.
Such business shall not be located within 200 feet of any intersection
of two or more major thoroughfares as indicated on the Master Thorough-
fare Plan.
(2) Recreational space providing children's amusement park, shuffleboard
miniature golf, and other similar recreation, when part of a planned
development. All such recreation space shall be adequately fenced on
all sides with a four (4) foot fence. Such uses shall not be located
closer than three hundred (300) feet of any existing residence as
measured from any existing residence to the closest point on the property
to be so used; provided, however, that this restriction may be waived
by the written consent of seventy-five (75) percent or more of the owners
of such residences filed with the City Clerk. Such uses shall not be
located within 200 feet of any intersection of two or more major
thoroughfares as indicated on the Master Thoroughfare Plan.
(3) Carnivals may be allowed for periods not normally to exceed two (2)
weeks, however, they may request an optional time extension of up
to two (2) weeks from the Bureau of Inspection_
Section 11.03 (o) New paragraph:
(o) Diagnostic automobile repair such as motor and electrical tune-up,
replacement of shock absorbers, brakes, mufflers, exhaust and tail-
pipes, and other similar light repairs subject to the following: All
repair work must be carried out within an enclosed building and no
outdoor storage of scrap or junk cars, spare parts or dismantled cars
shall be permitted.
Diagnostic automobile repair shall not permit such heavy repairs as
motor or drive train rebuilding, bumping, painting or spraying.
Section 11.03 (p) New paragraph:
(p) Ambulance services, local and suburban bus terminal and taxi cab
terminals when exterior design, appearance, and location of any pro-
posed building, structure or premises; and the location and design of
any proposed parking facility or loading and unloading area to be used
for above uses is consistent with the spirit, intent and purpose of
this ordinance.
for the following reasons:
(1) There is a need for this type of legislation to control
the quantity of gas stations with our City.
(2) The City has a serious problem with an over-abundance of
service stations becoming a liability to the City when
they are vacated.
(3) This is a necessary tool in the hands of the City to regulate
its orderly growth and development and to help effectuate the
Master Plan of the City.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under
date of February 28, 1968, and notice of such hearing was sent to
the Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company,
Michigan Bell Telephone Company, Consumers Power Company and City
Departments as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is a request dated September
14, 1968 from Kenneth Morris requesting to amend Petition 68-4-1-16
from Kenneth Morris requesting to amend Petition 68-4-1-16 by deleting
proposed R-8 and C-2 zonings from petition.
Mr. Walker stated that a meeting had been held with the petitioner for purpose
of determining what plans he has for this area and it was agreed that his petition
be amended to delete the R-8 and C-2 zoning from it so that the petition be amended
to delete the R-8 and C-2 zoning from it so that the petition before the Commission
tonight would be only for uses that would apply to C-1 and P. S. zonings, the
uses under the C-2 and R-8 now not being excluded.
On a motion duly made by Mr. tlrightman, seconded by Mr. Heusted, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#10-132-68 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a request dated 9/14/68 from Kenneth
Morris requesting to amend Petition 68-4-1-16 by deleting proposed
tip: R-8 and C-2 zonings from above stated Petition, the City Planning
Commission does hereby determine that this request is granted and
Petition 68-4-1-16 is hereby amended to request a change of zoning
from RUF to C-1 and P.S.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, stated the motion carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
Mr. Wrightman announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 68-4-1-16, as
amended, by Kenneth Morris for E. David Auer requesting to rezone
property located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 33, from RUF to C-1
and P.S.
Mr. Jerome Papler, 9024 Laurel, stated that even with the dropping of C-2 and R-8
there are still problems and the arguments originally listed still stand. He
stated these objections are related to traffic problems which will be created and
that since the hardware store and food store are still planned the people of the
area object because they don't feel there is a need for this type of development.
They realize, he stated, that some type of commercial will have to go in on Wayne
Road, but they would prefer a small business, not one the scope of this proposal.
Mr. Walker stated there is commercial on the southeast corner and on the west
side of Mayne Road and that the balance of the land is RUF. He questioned if the
people would support development of that type -- residential development on one-
tor half acre lots.
Mr. Papler stated they would favor residential zoning, not necessarily half-acre
lots, but residential zoning would not bring increased traffic where commercial
would.
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Mr. Tent stated that if the zoning is granted the Commission would not have site
plan approval.
Mr. Nagy stated that the Commission would because they have it on anything over
five acres.
Mr. Tent stated if the P.S. is two acres and the commercial three acres, the
Commission would not have site plan approval at all.
Mr. Morris stated they are dedicating 60' of property to the City to cover the
widening of these two streets to eliminate the problem of traffic and when it is
developed the situation should be better than it is now.
Mr. Tent questioned Mr. Morris as to whether or not he still owns the proposed
R-8 property and what are his intentions for that property.
Mr. Morris stated he sincerely does not know, but homes had been mentioned. He
said that even if they had the zoning for apartments they wouldn't put apartments
in right now.
Mr. Tent stated he would like to see the complete area development plan showing
what is proposed for commercial and residential.
Mr. Morris stated he couldn't ask his client to amend his petition to include
housing now, that they have been wating for four months and he requested that
the petition be either approved or denied.
Mr. Tent stated he would like to dispose of this tonight; that nothing would be
gained by waiting and that he was under the impression that this property was
under option.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by M. Colomina, it was
RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
June 1, 1968 on Petition 68-4-1-16 as submitted by Kenneth
Morris for E. David Auer, (said petition having been amended on
October 15, 1968 to delete the proposed R-8 and C-2 zonings) re-
questing to rezone property located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 33,
from RUF to C-1 and P.S. , the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 63-4-1-16, as amended, be
denied for the following reasons:
(1) There is an excessive quantity of commercial development
in this sector of the City.
(2) It will conflict with the stability of the adjacent
residential neighborhoods.
(3) It will substantially conflict with the traffic carrying
capacity of Wayne Road.
FURTHER RESOLVED THAT, notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under
date of May 26, 1968, and notice of such heaeipg waa sent to the
Detroit Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan
Bell Telephone Company and Consumers Power Company and City Depart-
ments as listed in the Proof of Service.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Colomina, Tent
NAYS: Heusted, Moser, Walker, Wrightman
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the foregoing resolution not adopted for lack of
support.
Mr. Tent stated his reasons for this action now is because of running into this
in other parts of the City and if these people are sincere in developing this
sector he would like to see the residential and commercial development plan
together.
Mr. Moser stated he would like to take the matter under advisement until the
entire plan can be restudied and that the Commission has to have some satisfaction
as to what they are going to put in if they don't have site plan approval, and it
is questionable as to whether the Commission has this approval.
Mr. Wrightman stated he would like to see some control gained by site plan approval
and if the Commission does not have it he agrees with Mr. Tent regarding parcels
of land left open for future development because you never know what is going into
them. He stated he believed it should be voted on one way or another.
Mr. Tent stated he could only see a problem later on because the other piece of
property will come back as 2-8. He stated if the petitioner is sincere about
developing commercial and residential than we have something, but the question is
still "what happens to the rest of the property?"
Mr. Moser stated there is nothing to commit him to plans for the balance of the
property, only the part that is under petition tonight, and they are not ready to
develop the other piece of property now.
Discussion was held regarding whether or not the Commission will have site plan
approval on this petition.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Wrightman, seconded by Mr. Heusted, it was
RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
6/11/68 on Petition 68-4-1-16 as submitted by Kenneth Morris for
E. David Auer (said petition having been :mended requesting to
rezone property located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 33, from
RUF to C-1 and P.S. , the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 68-4-1-16, as amended,
be approved for the following reasons:
(1) There is a need for this type of development in this
sector of the City.
(2) The service area for this sector of the City extends beyond
the City boundaries and it is possible that a substantial
quantity of bu^iness can be obtained from the residents of
Westland.
(3) It is consistent with the overall recommendations of the
Master Commercial Plan for our City.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above public hearing was
published in the official newspaper, the Livonia Observer, under
date of 5/26/68, and notice of such hearing was sent to the Detroit
Edison Company, Chesapeake & Ohio Railway Company, Michigan Bell
Telephone Company and Consumers Power Company and City Departments
as listed in the Proof of Service.
Mr. Tent questioned if Mr. Tlrightman is satisfied that the Commission has site
plan approval.
Mr. Wrightman stated he is satisfied that the Commission has site plan approval
for nine-tenths of the property involved and that the P.S. is incidental.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Tent, seconded by Mr. Moser, it was
RESOLVED that, pursuant to a public hearing having been held on
6/11/68 on Petition 68-4-1-16 as sumbitted by Kenneth Morris for
E. David Auer (said petition having been amended on October 15,
1968 to delete the proposed R-8 and C-2 zoning) requesting to re-
zone property located in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 33, from RUF
to C-i and P.S. , the City Planning Commission does hereby determine
to table Petition 68-4-1-16.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Tent, Moser, Colomina
NAYS: Heusted, Wrightman, Walker
ABSENT: None
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Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the foregoing resolution not adopted for lack of
support, and declared the item under advisement.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, and unanimously
,adopted, it was
#11-133-68 RESOLVED that, whereas, Myra L. Chandler has diligently served on the
City Planning Commission for three years and has unselfishly given of
her time and talents to help make Livonia a better City in which to
live, work and play; and
WHEREAS, in the course of such service she has offered constructive
suggestions and ideas to implement the effectiveness of the Planning
Commission; and
WHEREAS, she has withstood public pressure to make unbiased judgements
for the betterment of the entire City; and
WHEREAS, her dedication and spirit of fairness will be an example for
all public officials and public servants,
Now, therefore, be it resolved that the City of Livonia Planning
Commission and Planning Director take this means to express their
sincere appreciation and heartfelt thanks to Myra L. Chandler for a
well done.
M r.Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution is
adopted.
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1110 On a motion duly made by Mr. Walker, seconded by Mr. Wrightman, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#11-134-68 RESOLVED that; whereas, Donald C. Pollock has diligently served
on the City Planning Commission for four years and has unselfishly
given of his time and talents to help make Livonia a better City
in which to live, work and play; and
Whereas, in the course of such service he has offered constructive
suggestions and ideas to implement the effectiveness of the Plan-
ning Commission; and
Whereas, he has withstood public pressure to make unbiased judgments
for the betterment of the entire City; and
Whereas, his dedication and spirit of fairness will be an example
for all public officials and public servants,
Now, therfore, be it resolved that the City of Livonia Planning
Commission and Planning Director take this means to express their
sincere appreciation and heartfelt thanks to Donald C. Pollock
for a job well done.
Mr. Walker, Chairman, declared the motion carried and the foregoing resolution
is adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Colomina, seconded by Mr. Moser, and unanimously
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adopted, the City Planning Commission adjourned its 199th Regular Meeting held on
October 15, 1968 at approximately 12: 55 a.m.
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
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Harry Ur tman, cretary
ATTEST:
Charle W. Walker, Chairman