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IL MINUTES OF THE 531st REGULAR MEETING
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AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD BY THE CITY
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LIVONIA
On Tuesday, February 10, 1987, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 531st Regular Meeting and Public Hearings in the Livonia City
Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. C. Russ Smith, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. , with
approximately 40 interested persons in the audience.
Members present: C. Russ Smith Herman Kluver Donald Vyhnalek
Sue Sobolewski Michael Soranno Richard Straub
R. Lee Morrow Donna Naidow Jeanne Hildebrandt
Members absent: None
Messrs. John J. Nagy, Planning Director, H. G. Shane, Assistant Planning
Director, and Ralph H. Bakewell, Planner IV, were also present.
Mr. Smith informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves
a rezoning request, this Commission only makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and decide the question.
If a petition involves a waiver of use request and the request is denied, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision to the City Council;
J otherwise the petition is terminated. The Commission holds the only public
hearing on a preliminary plat and/or a vacating petition. Planning Commission
resolutions do not become effective until seven days after tonight.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda is Petition
86-5-1-21 (rehearing) by David W. Schostak for Newburgh/Six Mile Ltd.
Partnership to rezone property located on the northwest corner of Six Mile
and Newburgh Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 7 from C-2 to P.O. , C-4
and C-4II.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in our file from Kenneth Bowden, President of
the Laurel Woods Condo Association stating they have some real
concerns about the rezoning requested by this petition. The
primary concern is the flow of traffic these buildings will
create on Laurel Park Dr.
Mr. Smith: It is my understanding that these are only minor adjustments.
We don't want to have another public hearing regarding the whole
thing. This is bringing it up to meet the Master Plan.
Mr. Nagy: Just a rehearing. We have some adjustments to meet some new
property lines that are being drawn with respect to the
conveyance of property from Schostak to Marriott Inns, for
example, so the previously described districts for the proposed
zoning changes were adjusted necessitating the rehearing but the
terms of the actual usage, the heights of the buildings, the
t arrangements of those buildings on the property are consistent
with the previously approved plan by the Planning Commission and
the City Council and the way the property is actually being
developed today.
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'Mr. Smith: The original plan is intact?
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4Mr. Nagy: That is correct.
Mr. Morrow: What we are doing tonight is not seriously changing the traffic?
Mr. Nagy: No. What we are really doing tonight is changing the zoning of
C-2 district to actually reflect the actual usage of the
property. Back in June or July of 1986, in order to expedite
the development of Laurel Park and to facilitate the development
of Jacobson Stores and Marriott Inn, etc. the developer, in
order to accelerate that, chose to go to the Zoning Board of
Appeals and get variances from the height limitations of C-2
district. He was successful in getting those height variances
and a building permit was issued for Jacobson stores. What we
are doing tonight is adjusting the zoning to actually reflect
the heights of the buildings that were approved. It is a
housekeeping chore only. Whether this zoning goes through
tonight or not the project will go forward.
Mr. Straub: To what body would homeowners' association address their
concerns?
Mr. Smith: We had public hearings in regard to that and all questions were
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4 Mr. Nagy: Those kinds of concern are always part of a rezoning hearing.
The public is concerned. Those concerns should be directed to
the Traffic Commission and Engineering Department.
Petitioner was not present:
Jack Fuller, Laurel Woods: I have heard many comments this evening with respect to
previous hearings as it relates to this rezoning. I moved in
here in October 1985. I received my very first notice, this one
right here, related to this meeting. It was my understanding
when I purchased a condo in Laurel Woods that much of this
property was zoned commercially at, my understanding, a
two-story level. This was a complete shock when I found
buildings going 4 stories, 6 stories, 8 stories, whatever. As a
property owner I am very much concerned. You touched upon some
of these subjects in your conversation already, in particular
the dilemma that we are going to have from a transportation
standpoint - a traffic jam I might say. You talk about street
lights, so on. Yes, street lights will stop traffic. It will
allow traffic to move. It is not going to eliminate congestion.
I am not sure just what emphasis are going to be allowed on
Laurel Park Drive from the area that I guess you would relate to
P0-2, P0, C2 and C-4. All of this traffic coming from
commercial buildings is going to be allowed to pour out on a
residential street. There is going to be a tremendous amount of
congestion. In addition, as a property owner I have a very
serious concern as to what this is going to do to my property at
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some point in time when I would like to sell it because I feel
that the property values are going to depreciate primarily
because of the intense commercialism that is being allowed to be
built up in an area that is primarily residential and in Mr.
Bowden's letter he did relate to roughly 500 units involving the
four condo associations, approximately 1,000 people who have a
substantial investment in their property and they are very much
concerned with respect to what is going to happen to the
property values. Are they going to degenerate to the extent
that we would be fortunate to get our dollar back as opposed to
some reduced value?
Mr. Smith: You understand these things have already been done? All of this
zoning has already been approved. We have had previous
meetings, previous public hearings, and all we are doing now is
realigning the lines of a project that has already been
approved.
Mr. Fuller: What you are saying I am sure is true. God knows where I was
when this was decided. I am not sure. You can correct me if I
am wrong, that this was going to go from two stories to four
stories to six stories to eight stories. I never had that
understanding. I did understand that much of this property was
zoned commercial but not to the extent that I was notified.
This was first time.
Mr. Smith: It takes a while for you to get on tax role. What is the
1 standard Mr. Nagy?
Mr. Nagy: The notification requirement for a change of zoning is 500 feet.
There is also a hearing required for the Zoning Board of
Appeals. When Schostak Brothers took the appeal to the Zoning
Board of Appeals, their requirement is for 300 feet and you are
within 500 feet area but apparently short of 300 foot
requirement so therefore you weren't notified of the hearing by
the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Mr. Fuller: That sounds very complex. I would like to ask one question.
When I first moved here, about a year and a half ago, it was
strictly residential. Now I am not sure what the motivation is
from the standpoint of the City Council of Livonia. They may be
extremely interested as far as tax base is concerned from
standpoint of having an extensive amount of commercial property
as opposed to residential property. If that is going to be the
motivating factor then I am not sure really if we are just going
through a little play on words here. This could be cast in
concrete. I have the feeling this is true. I have some very
serious concerns as a resident living in this particular area.
I happen to be on Board of Laurel Woods. I am speaking as an
individual person who has a serious concern about what is
iv happening. It is probably not appropriate, at this meeting, to
bring up two notices I received today concerning area around
golf course.
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' Mr. Smith: The 24th Sir. I understand and I appreciate your concern.
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Again I have to say this project has already been approved. We
are only realigning the lines of the project. You would probably
be interested in all of the minutes. This has come on for 14
years. The concerns you brought up were brought up during the
first meetings.
Mr. Fuller: There was a very interesting article in Free Press or News
within the last week and they related to various communites,
namely Southfield, Troy, Sterling Heights, Livonia. The same
problem. I happened to move from Southfield to this area when
I saw this happening in Southfield. I saw a tremendous
development of office space with only about 50% occupancy. I
am wondering if we are creating the same kind of monster in this
area.
Mr. Smith: I can't answer that.
Mr. Soranno: I can sympathize with your concerns about traffic. You probably
are going to notice a difference when that is up. That whole
section between Six and Eight Mile Road is skyrocketing. What I
suggest to you, as far as property value, that you may find
yourself pleasantly surprised.
IL Mr. Fuller: I think much of what you are saying is correct. When I first
heard that Jacobson was developing at Six Mile and Newburgh my
first thought was this could have a positive impact on property
value and then when I became more and more aware I began to
think on negative side.
Helen Duce, Aspen Place: We were here at all the meetings and as I remember at that
time we knew about these buildings but I thought height limits
were going to be two and four with possibility of six but we
never heard anything about approval. My one question is that at
that time we had such a big hassle about parking space. If you
are going to raise those buildings, that is going to bring in
more people. Where are they going to get the parking?
Mr. Smith: You remember they are going to have a parking garage.
Mr. Vyhnalek: The final plan was six stories and three stories for parking.
Mrs. Duce: They just had a quick passage so Jacobsons could get started.
Mr. Smith: They had to meet our parking requirements.
Frank Kirby, 18247 University Dr. , President of Wood Condominiums: This property was
previously proposed for rezoning. Mr. DiPonio came in for the
rezoning and there was a great deal of reluctance. He was
determined to make it C-2. As a consideration to C-2 zoning,
there was just one entrance off Newburgh Road into complex.
There were free standing homes on east side of Newburgh. At
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1!: this point in time no particular thought seems to be given to
condo owners. Let me explain to you a condo owner is a person
who owns his home. He does not consider himself an apartment
dweller. He owns a single family unit. His concerns and
desires are the same as the person on the east side of Newburgh.
We that live in these condos-have a feeling that we are not
considered for what we really are -- homeowners, tax payers,
voters, residents that have lived here for 25 - 30 years and had
our own homes when it came time to move into condos. They tell
me there was a site plan approved years ago. I recognize that
nothing we say here tonight is going to change outcome. I guess
the reason I am here tonight there is another development
proposed east of us. I want to, at this time, tell you that we
expect the same consideration in the future developments that
was given to the people on the east side of Newburgh. This berm
serves no reason other than to protect these people on the east
side of Newburgh. We feel that we have the right to expect the
same protection and the same consideration you would give to a
free standing neighborhood.
Mr. Smith Thank you for coming. I think you recall during past public
hearings we spent extra time with condo owners. We do not feel
they are second class citizens. I believe we spent some extra
time to accommodate the condominium landscaping.
1[000 There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
4 Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 86-5-1-21 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-26-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 86-5-1-21 (rehearing) by David W. Schostak for
Newburgh/Six Mile Ltd. Partnership to rezone property located on the
northwest corner of Six Mile and Newburgh Roads in the Southeast 1/4 of
Section 7 from C-2 to P.O. , C-4 and C-4II, the City Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 86-5-1-21 be
approved for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed changes in zoning will provide zoning districts that
accommodate the proposed uses on the subject parcels.
(2) The proposed changes in zoning will assist in the implementation of the
Future Land Use Plan recommendation for the subject land area.
(3) The proposed changes in zoning are compatible to and in harmony with
the surrounding zoning in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
tMr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
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Airs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 85-10-1-31
4 (rehearing) by Suad Shatara to rezone property located on the east side of
Newburgh Road, south of Ann Arbor Trail in Section 32 from RUF to R-7.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in the file from the Engineering Division
stating Newburgh Road has not been dedicated to its fullest
extent (60 ft.) adjacent to the subject parcel in accordance
with the City's Master Thoroughfare Plan. In addition, if the
site is developed as a multiple-dwelling area, there are no City
storm sewers readily available to service the site.
The petitioner was not present.
James Hollowell, 26825 Ann Arbor Tr. : I want to state my feelings that I think a
multiple dwelling there would ruin the character of the
neighborhood. We already have a new development on the west
side of Newburgh Road - apartments - and it is a non-fenced
area. I get a fair amount of traffic through my yard because of
school facilities and I feel that to put multiple dwellings in
this area would create more traffic and ruin the character of
the neighborhood.
Mr. Morrow: Has the petitioner contacted you?
ILMr. Hollowell: No, he has not.
Neil Sudendorf, 9116 Newburgh: Like the other gentleman said it is all RUF, both
sides, with the exception of the American Legion Hall. Why
change it? I have many traffic problems with the school much
less apartment complexes. I would like to see it remain RUF.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 85-10-1-31 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Soranno, seconded by Mrs. Sobolewski and unanimously
approved, it was
#2-27-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 85-10-1-31 (rehearing) by Suad Shatara to rezone
property located on the east side of Newburgh Road, south of Ann Arbor
Trail in Section 32 from RUF to R-7, the City Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 85-10-1-31 be denied for
the following- reasons:
(1) The proposed change of zoning is not in the best interests of the City
of Livonia because it represents spot zoning which is contrary to good
land use and zoning practice.
(2) The proposed change of zoning would provide for uses that are prevalent
in the area since two similar but larger multi-family projects were
approved in the area last year.
(3) The proposed change of zoning will not promote an orderly and logical
development of the lands along Newburgh Road as envisioned by the
Future Land Use Plan.
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(4) The proposed change of zoning would not be a comprehensive solution to
the development of land in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 86-12-1-53
by Michael Southers to rezone property located on the east side of
Middlebelt, south of Terrence Avenue in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 13
from C-1 to C-2.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in the file from the, Engineering Division
stating they have no objection to this proposal. There is also
a letter in the file from James Kline stating his opposition to
this petition.
Michael Southers, 18555 Bainbridge: I would like to add a couple of things. The
reason I am asking for this change, I am planning to put in a
restaurant and I would like to have a submarine sandwich shop.
I would like to have seating. People at lunch time like to have
a place to go and sit down. Correct me if I am wrong, but with
the C-1 use I could still have a sandwich shop. I just want to
put seats in there.
IL Mr. Morrow: I can appreciate where you are coming from but this is spot
zoning within a C-1 district. That is what we are talking about
here tonight. I cannot support this on the basis of spot zoning
and set a precedent. The proposed use is a waiver in C-2.
Mr. Southers: Could I still apply to operate a submarine sandwich shop?
Mr. Morrow: In a C-1 you could have a take out food restaurant but no seats.
Whether or not you could appeal that I do not know. We go to
Zoning Board of Appeals to get out of hardship.
Mr. Soranno: Is this the only center you have explored?
Mr. Southers: I have explored others but all other centers have exclusive
rights to pizza or the rent is more than I can afford.
Perry Sutfin, 29366 Terrence: I am strongly against this. We have one sub shop
already there and I am tired of picking up rubbbish. I think
changing it to C-2 is putting your foot in the door.
Mrs. Opalinski, 29100 Terrence: The people who owned property when it was P.S.
requested C-2. They were denied and the owner had come up to me
after meeting and he said he didnt think C-2 would go through
but he wanted C-1 so that is why he asked for C-2. I don't know
if it is the same owner or not. It is not what he proposed.
Mr. Smith: He will have to live up to plans. It is coming along.
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5 Mrs. Opalinski: The whole thing is they tell you one thing and then they come
back with something else but I am against restaurant in that
area.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 86-12-1-53 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mr. Kluver and unanimously approved,
it was
#2-28-87 RESOLVED, that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 86-12-1-53 by Michael Southers to rezone property
located on the east side of Middlebelt, south of Terrence Avenue in the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 13 from C-1 to C-2, the City Planning Commission
does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 86-12-1-53 be
denied for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed change of zoning represents spot zoning which is contrary
to good planning practice.
(2) The proposed change of zoning would invite similar petitions for a
change in zoning on adjoining property to the C-2 classification and
thus erode the local commercial character of the shopping center.
liP0 (3) The proposed change of zoning would provide for uses which are not in
character with the surrounding uses in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, •notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 86-12-1-54
by the City Planning Commission pursuant to Section 23.01(b) of Zoning
Ordinance #543 to rezone property located on the west side of Farmington
Road, north of Myrna Drive in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 16 from P.S. to
R-3.
Mr. Nagy: There is a letter in the file from the Engineering Division
stating they have no objection to this proposal.
Pamela Bacon: I just want to tell you that I think it is an excellent idea and
it will be real nice.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 86-12-1-54 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Hildebrandt, seconded by Mr. Kluver, and unanimously
approved, it was
#2-29-87 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 86-12-1-54 by the City Planning Commission pursuant to
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Section 23.01(b) of Zoning Ordinance #543 to rezone property located on the
west side of Farmington Road, north of Myrna Drive in the Southeast 1/4 of
4 Section 16 from P.S. to R-3, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 86-12-1-54 be approved for the
following reasons:
(1) The proposed change of zoning is compatible to and in harmony with the
surrounding zoning in the area.
(2) The proposed change of zoning will provide a zoning district which
reflects the existing residential use of the property.
(3) The proposed change of zoning is supported by the Future Land Use Plan
which recommends low density residential land use for the subject area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 87-1-2-1 by
Malak Associated, Inc. , requesting waiver use approval to construct an auto repair
facility on the east side of Middlebelt, north of Plymouth Road in the Southeast 1/4
liof Section 25.
Mr. Nagy: We have a letter in our file from the Engineering Division
stating they note that Middlebelt Road has not been dedicated to
' its fullest extent (60 feet) adjacent to the subject site in
accordance with the City's Master Thoroughfare Plan. In
addition, there are no City maintained sanitary sewers or storm
sewers readily available to service the site.
Charles Tangora, representing Petitioner: The petitioner, who is actually Auto
Village, has picked this site after a lot of study. The concept
is very new but in other parts of the country has been proven to
be successful. As you can see it is right next to the Cadillac
plant and across from the Ford plant, a possible source of
business. We feel the type of operation they are going to have
is strictly auto service, no retail. One of the things that
we have asked for in the petition is a 60 feet setback in M-1
district for two reasons, it gives us a better visibility to the
traffic that drives up and down Middlebelt and also moves it
towards the west 40 feet from residential development. The type
of usage is auto service, tune up, possibly a muffler shop,
install tires. Things in that nature. No retail type of store
where you have people coming and and buying things. I would
like to have Mr. Malak come forward just to review the site plan
and rendering. They have developed this after driving around
the country.
Mr. Smith: Did you hear anything that would surprise you in the letter from
Engineering Division?
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Mr. Tangora: No sir.
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John Malek, 24725 W. 12 Mile, Architect for Developer: As Mr. Tangora has mentioned
earlier, this is a concept that has been developed, and
I hopefully will be repeated in this state. The concept will not
only fit into your community but in other places in the state.
We have tried to dress the building up. We have added a more
residential look so it can fit into residential area. We have
tried to control this site so users would offer a clean and well
maintained parking lot and operation. We have a fenced in
location which will be shielded from residential area by a 6
foot high wall. We are setting back approximately 300 feet from
Middlebelt and there is a building that will shield any parking
that will occur overnight. We have attempted to try to offer
Livonia landscaping in accordance with the ordinances and we
believe that the use in this particular zoning is appropriate to
the zoning. If you have any additional questions, we will be
happy to answer them at this time.
Mr. Morrow: Do you have any interest in property to south?
Mr. Malek: The developer or owner only owns that portion that crosses
between the lines.
Mr. Morrow: Do you have option to purchase.
Mr. Malek: There is a purchase agreement in effect on that property.
Mr. Soranno: I have mixed feelings about this property. A couple of
questions that maybe you could answer. I believe in the auto
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parts, in your previous concepts, you included a transmission
shop. Could you do that also.
Mr. Malek: I think we have to separate the two proposals That was to be
constructed in a commercial area. This particular automobile
center is being developed to house service types of operation.
At this time we are opening up to batteries, tune ups, etc.
Purely for service.
Mr. Soranno: Briefly describe your storage of parts.
Mr. Malek: We do have space on site between two buildings. This area is
shielded from traffic and residential area. In addition we are
also looking for some area behind buildings.
Mr. Soranno: What about storage of overnight vehicles? Would that be in
back?
Mr. Malek: The area that is fenced would allow for overnight storage (Mr.
Malek pointed out area on map).
Mr. Soranno: Do you know the distance between the nearest resident to
easterly part of building?
t Mr. Nagy: 195 feet - depth of lot. Corner of building to back of lot line
is approximately 70 feet.
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1[Mr. Soranno: One of the things I was thinking about is rather than ask for a
waiver, why couldn't you just use some of this from the back and
put it in front?
Mr. Malek: The site has been studied. The rectangular parcel of land will
support only a rectangular building. We have to offer something
for the tenant to keep them alive.
Mr. Morrow: Should zoning be approved and you should go forward with project
and you do back up to residential area, what would be your hours
of operation?
Mr. Malek: We are not requesting a change of zoning. It is my
understanding that zoning is appropriate.
Mr. Morrow: What would your hours of operation be?
Mr. Malek: I would assume the hours would be the hours that are established
by other businesses.
Mr. Smith: Would I be right if I said they would be shopping center hours?
Mr. Malek: Possibly.
Laurie Schwartz, 11903 Haller: I am directly behind proposed building. I am very
li: much opposed to it because I feel there is very little privacy.
All we have is our woods to keep us from Middlebelt. A 6 foot
wall is not a pretty sight to see. We are concerned with
the automotive nature of it. There are already two automotive
repair facilities on Middlebelt. They are not always that busy.
I do not know that they would do all that great a business
there. Haller Street is already being used as a test track. We
are afraid that this facility will also come around corner and
use our street. We are concerned about the trash. We feel
closed in. I am very much opposed and I know my neighbors are
though they couldn't be here with me tonight.
Mr. Vyhnalek: What was the noise level during the summer with the kids playing
minature golf?
Ms. Schwartz: We hear it a few times but all we had to do was call them. We
really don't hear the noise. The trees really do help us.
There is a lot of crime especially with Wonderland. People cut
through woods after doing some robbery at Wonderland mall.
Mr. Kluver: I look upon this as an area where the vision of the City was
defined as M-1 zoning industrial belt. I look upon that as an
area where we have traditional M-1 and look upon it as a
traditional development. Now is the time when we should have
prudent use of that area and this project does not support this
type of use.
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Mr. Morrow: This is one of the petitions where you anguish. I agree with
Mr. Kluver but I am sure we are not going to have minature golf
there forever and I am going to vote in favor of granting this
waiver.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 87-1-2-1 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek and seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt, it was
#2-30-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 87-1-2-1 by Malak Associated, Inc. , requesting waiver
use approval to construct an auto repair facility on the east side of
Middlebelt, north of Plymouth Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25, the
City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 87-1-2-1 be approved subject to the granting of variances with
respect to front yard setback and landscaping requirements by the Zoning
Board of Appeals and the following conditions:
(1) That the Site Plan, including building elevations, marked project 8622
dated 1-7-87 prepared by Malak Waitkus Associated, Inc. , Architects
which is hereby approved shall be adhered to.
(2) That the landscaping shown on the approved Site Plan shall be installed
prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy and thereafter
permanently maintained in a healthy condition.
3 (3) That retail sales is prohibited, except as an accessory to an auto
repair facility.
for the following reasons:
(1) That all waiver use standards and requirements set forth in Section
16.11 and 19.06 of Zoning Ordinance #543 have been complied with.
(2) That the subject site has the capacity to accommodate the proposed use.
3) That the proposed use is compatible to and in harmony with the
surrounding uses in the area.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hildebrandt, Soranno, Morrow, Sobolewski, Straub, Naidow,
Vyhnalek, Smith
NAYS: Kluver
ABSENT: None
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
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On a motion duly made by Mrs. Hildebrandt and seconded by Mrs. Sobolewski, it was
. #2-31-87 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby determine to waive
the provisions of Section 10 of Article VI of the Planning Commission Rules
_ of Procedures requesting the seven day period concerning effectiveness of
Planning Commission resolutions in connection with Petition 87-1-2-1 by
Malak Associated, Inc. requesting waiver use approval to construct an auto
repair facility on the east side of Middlebelt, north of Plymouth Road in
the Southeast 1/4 of Section 25.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hildebrandt, Soranno, Morrow, Sobolewski, Straub, Naidow,
Vyhnalek, Smith
NAYS: Kluver
ABSENT: None
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 87-1-2-2 by
Harold Thomas Nursery requesting waiver use approval to utilize property
located on the west side of Middlebelt Road, south of Five Mile Road in
Section 23 for the rental of Ryder Trucks.
Mr. Nagy::4
IL There is a letter in our file from the Engineering Division
stating they have no objections to this proposal. We also have
a letter in our file from homeowner Kenneth Morden of 29426
Linda Ave. stating he is opposed to this petition. We also have
a letter from homeowner Kathryn E. Nell of 29438 Linda stating
she does not support this petition.
Larry Thomas, 14925 Middlebelt: We had Ryder trucks for three years and we parked
them in my shop. We have red trucks and yellow trucks. Ours
are a little bit bigger.
Mr. Smith: How many trucks do you own?
Mr. Thomas: All together we have 30. We keep two or three Ryder trucks
during week but on big holiday weekends we have eight or more.
We shuttle them back and forth. They are in back not out front
where you can see them.
Mr. Smith: You have 30 trucks?
Mr. Thomas: Not all of them are Ryder trucks.
Mr. Soranno: Are trucks used for your business.
Mr. Thomas: We use them in spring. I used to rent them for my own use in
Mr. Soranno:
spring. We use two or three ourselves in spring.
The remainder? It is another business for you?
Mr. Thomas:
1 Yes.
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Mrs. James Purkiss, 29552 Linda: We have been suffering from dirt and filth from the
nursery and no trees and I am sure he knows that. However, we
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are talking trucks tonight. Everyone knows the traffic on
Middlebelt. It is bad enough to have all the trucks. We have
to expand but we don't have to have yellow Ryder trucks setting
out in front of the nursery and backing in and out. It is
getting so we can't sit in our yards. It is too noisy. We are
retired and we don't need this harassment. I can't understand
what Ryder trucks has to do with a nursery. I can understand
the big red trucks, which are beautiful and I really don't
object to them. I think something should be done. Mayor
Brashear said Livonia would be a beautiful city. I hope you
folks will do something about this.
Mrs. Milek, 29464 Linda: Our back yard is adjacent to lot. We moved here in 1959.
Our living room and den are in back and all we see are these
great big yellow trucks. We love our back yard and all we see
are these Rider yellow trucks. I don't think we should have to
live with this. Before it was beautiful with evergreens and
trees so then he moved the evergreens over to the Taco Place and
puts in Ryder trucks. What is next? Thank you.
Mrs. Geistert, 29610 Linda: I live in the second house from nursery. We get all the
noise and dirt. There are piles of dirt all around. I wish
someone would go and look at his property in back. It is a
complete contrast to front. With all the trucks you have there
already, Ryder rental trucks is one more thing to contend with.
I can't take a nap in the afternoon. There are mornings when we
are woke up early Saturday and Sunday mornings. Who needs Ryder
rental trucks too.
Mrs. Sobolewski: Give me an example of how many Ryder trucks you see during week?
Mrs. Geistert: 5 or 6. But to be honest, sometimes they are parked by the
piles of dirt. There was supposed to be a greenbelt. I haven't
had much cooperation when I have asked him to do other things.
He has even yelled "get off my property." The whole nature of
it has changed. I don't know if any of you have come and looked
at it from the back.
Mr. Thomas: One comment. Bill McDonald recommended putting the dirt up.
Mr. Vhynalek: Why do you chose the south end instead of the north end for
Ryder trucks? Why don't you put them next to Taco Bell?
Mr. Thomas: For the last 15 years we have had our driveway on that side and
I cannot afford to change the driveway.
Mrs. Hildebrandt: Question for Donna. Did you state there was supposed to be a
greenbelt.
Mrs. Geistert: There was supposed to be a greenbelt along Beatrice side.
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Mr. Thomas: We meet every recommendation that the Zoning Board gave us and
it was inspected by Bill McDonald.
Mrs. Hildebrandt: You stated Bill McDonald told you to put the pile of dirt there?
Mr. Thomas: Yes, it would be a good barrier.
Ruth Walker, 29568 Linda: I have not lived there as long as some people. I moved in
there ten years ago and when I moved in Harold Thomas Nursery
was there and I thought it was an addition to the rest of my
back yard because you could not see the ground level of nursery.
Now the grade level is much higher. You see the trucks coming.
I can look in that way and I still can see. There is a big
difference in my yard and it is much more dirtier. I put glass
in porch but all my neighbors complain about the dirt. When we
sit in living room this is what we see. It has changed in ten
years. I don't know whose fault it is. Pretty soon the kids
can ski off this. If I were in business I would like to try and
help my neighbors enjoy their scenery. It just seems to me
there should be a better rapport here.
Theodore Milek, 29464 Linda: I am related to the other lady who was here. We share
the same bed together. She is my wife. I just want to say a
picture is worth 10,000 words. I invite this Board, and you
Larry Thomas, to come to my house and see what we see every day
looking out the window towards the property with these huge
yellow trucks. These trucks are twice as high as the trucks he
uses for his nursery. In addition to this I would like to find
out for sure just exactly what this petition is for. Does that
include the 20 foot high stack of wooden pallets you have
stacked up there?
Mr. Smith: No.
Mr. Milek: He has them piled in southwest corner, about 20 feet high. That
is another ugly sight. What are you going to do with this Mr.
Thomas?
Mr. Thomas: I hope to use them.
Mr. Milek: When the original Mr. Thomas was there it was a beautiful place
It appears that since Larry has taken over, things have taken a
turn for the worse. I am opposed.
Mrs. Sobolewski: If he moved the trucks to any other location on the spot, would
that satisfy you?
Mr. Milek: : I think you hit the nail on the head. I would like to sit down
with him about moving. If he could consider an outsider's view.
Would you want to do that Mr. Thomas?
10; Mr. Thomas: We have been in front of City Council. I have done everything I
was suppose to do.
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Mr. Milek: I am opposed to that.
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Mr. Vyhnalek: You said you could move them to center of property. Could you
point that out.
Mr. Thomas pointed area out on map.
Mr. Vynnalek: How far from where you are now?
Mr. Nagy: North by 200 feet.
Mr. Morrow: Harold Thomas Nursery was here before I moved in and I am sure
he has a prosperous business and what we are faced with tonight
is Ryder trucks being rented on Middlebelt Road. There is
another request for Ryder trucks on Plymouth. I voted against
that one on Plymouth. The only difference between that petition
and this petition, this petition is even more closer to
residential area and for that reason I can't support petition
but I respect Mr. Thomas' right to request it.
Phil Pepera, 29536 Linda: I oppose this petition and agree with Mrs. Purkiss and Ted
and the others.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 87-1-2-2 closed.
ILOn a motion duly made by Mrs. Hildebrandt and seconded by Mrs. Sobolewski, it was
#2-32-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 87-1-2-2 by Harold Thomas Nursery requesting waiver
use approval to utilize property located on the west side of Middlebelt
Road, south of Five Mile Road in Section 23 for the rental of Ryder Trucks,
the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 87-1-2-2 be denied for the following reasons:
(1) That the petitioner has failed to affirmatively show that the proposed
use is in compliance with all of the general standards set forth in
Section 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance #543.
(2) That the proposed use is incompatible with the adjacent residential
uses in the area.
(3) That the proposed use will cause additional traffic to and from the
site such that it will overburden the site and the adjacent major
thoroughfare.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Hildebrandt, Soranno, Morrow, Sobolewski, Straub, Naidow, Smith
NAYS: Kluver, Vyhnalek
ABSENT: None
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El Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Petition 86-12-6-4
by the City Planning Commission pursuant to Section 23.02(b) of Zoning
Ordinance #543 to amend Section 2.08(10) and (11) by amending the
definitions regarding mobile homes.
There was no one present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Petition 86-12-6-4 closed.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek, seconded by Mr. Morrow, and unanimously
approved, it was
#2-33-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Petition 86-12-6-4 by the City Planning Commission pursuant to
Section 23.02(b) of Zoning Ordinance #543 to amend Section 2.08(10) and
(11) by amending the definitions regarding mobile homes, the City Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition
86-12-6-4 be approved for the following reason:
(1) The proposed amendment will bring the City of Livonia's Zoning
Ordinance into compliance with State Law with respect to the
definitions of terms relating to Mobile Homes and Mobile Home
developments.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was given in accordance
with the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
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Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
Mrs. Naidow, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda is Preliminary Plat for
Mayflower Estates Subdivision proposed to be located on the east side of
Gill Road, north of Seven Mile Road in the Southeast 1/4 of Section 4.
Mr. Nagy: We have a letter in our file from the Engineering Division
stating there appears to be no problems connected with this
proposal. We also have a letter in the file from the Fire
Division stating they have no objections to this development and
a letter from the Wayne County Office of Public Services stating
the project does not access a county right-of-way and therefore
their office has no interest in this development.
John Mahn, Agent for Mayflower Development: I have nothing to add.
Mr. Smith: We have one question from the preliminary study. The house that
is already located on subdivision plot and how it is shaped and
is there someone living in there now?
Mr. Mahn: They put close to $60,000 into home. They are going to
refurbish home.
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'Mr. Smith: Would house look out of place there? I understand front of
house faces Gill Road. Have they already remodeled the face of
the house.
Mr. Mahn: The house itself is quite old and it is build on southern
plantation type of house. The front yard would be first lot.
Mr. Smith: Is there a door facing subdivision street?
Mr. Mahn: Yes.
Mr. Smith: Is door well done?
Mr. Mahn: They haven't touched exterior yet.
Mr. Smith: It came up that maybe it would look out of place. Do you think
so?
Mr. Mahn: The Mayflower Development Company doesn't think so. There was
some thought that the house would be less in value but other
than that the people who bought it said they would match in
color, sort of earth tone.
Mr. Vyhnalek: You mean that house is going to face to west and next house is
going to face north so they will be looking right into the side
of their house.
IL Mr. Mahn: Lot 9 and 10 go together.
Mr. Nagy: Why create two lots, when one larger lot is all that is needed?
Mr. Mahn: I did not make that up.
Mr. Vyhnalek: Can you change that? Can we make that a provision.
Mr. Nagy: Absolutely, the preliminary plat can be changed to make one
larger lot.
Victor Moccia, 34374 Fonville: I enjoy the trees but I know we can't hold up
progress. My personal opinion I like the property the way it
is. We have a serious problem with water pressure in that area.
During summer I cannot do more than one thing at a time. There
may be some serious problems with the addition of 12 more homes.
Mr. Smith: I think the Engineering Department will handle that.
Mr. Moccia: They are welcome to come to my house and see there is a problem
with the water.
to Mr. Smith: You should call the Water Department. This will not affect your
water.
Mr. Nagy: I would urge you to talk to the Water Department.
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ILRobert Labadie, 19509 Norwich: I have two questions. What kind of house will be
built on property. Is it the same type of homes that are there?
The second question, what will happen to the trees? Will the
builder try to preserve trees?
Mr. Smith: I'm sure the answer to that is positive.
Bill Russo, Builder, 35345 W. Seven Mile Road: The proposed houses that are going in
subdivision will be approximately 1600 square feet. Prices will
start $110,000 - $150,000 . Any developer that knows his
business will keep the trees. They will be brick homes.
Mr. Morrow: What is zoning district?
Mr. Nagy: R-3.
There was no one else present wishing to be heard regarding this item and Mr. Smith,
Chairman, declared the public hearing on Preliminary Plat for Mayflower Estates
Subdivision closed.
Mr. Morrow: I offer approving resolution provided when final plat comes back
lots 9 and 10 which contain existing home be revised to show one
larger lot.
IL Mr. Kluver: I would also suggest in final plat significant number of trees
be tagged so they would remain and construction would be
monitored by Inspection Department.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Morrow, seconded by Mr. Soranno and unanimously adopted,
it was
#2-34-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held on February
10, 1987 on Preliminary Plat for Mayflower Estates Subdivision proposed to
be located on the east side of Gill Road, north of Seven Mile Road in the
Southeast 1/4 of Section 4, the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Preliminary Plat for Mayflower Estates
Subdivision be approved for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed preliminary plat complies with all applicable Ordinances
and the Subdivision Rules and Regulations of the City of Livonia.
(2) The proposed preliminary plat provides a reasonable solution to the
development of the subject land.
AND, that to the extent possible all existing trees located outside of home
building sites and roadways are to be preserved.
FURTHER RESOLVED that, notice of the above hearing was sent to abutting
property owners, proprietor, City departments as listed in the Proof of
Service and copies of the plat together with notice have been sent to the
Building Department, Superintendent of Schools, Fire Department, Police
Department and Parks and Recreation Department.
} Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
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Mr. Smith announced that the public hearing portion of the meeting is concluded and
4 the Commission will proceed with the regular meeting agenda.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Vyhnalek, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-35-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to the provisions of Act 285 of the Public Acts of
Michigan, 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission, having held a
Public Hearing on January 27, 1987 for the purpose of amending Part VII of
the Master Plan of the City of Livonia, the Future Land Use Plan, the same
is hereby amended by changing the designation of property located on the
north side of Seven Mile Road between I-275 and Newburgh from medium
density residential to office, for the following reasons:
(1) The proposed land use designation will encourage uses that are
compatible with surrounding existing and proposed development in the
area.
(2) The proposed land use designation of general office complies with the
locational characteristics of office use as found in the Planning
Commission's adopted Goals and Policies for development.
(3) The proposed amendment to the Future Land Use Plan is in keeping with
the developing character of lands along the I-275 Freeway corridor.
f AND, having given proper notice of such hearing as required by Act 285 of
the Public Acts of Michigan, 1931, as amended, the City Planning Commission
does hereby adopt said amendment as part of the Future Land Use Plan of the
City of Livonia which is incorporated herein by reference, the same having
been adopted by resolution of the City Planning Commission with all
amendments thereto, and further that this amendment shall be filed with the
City Council, City Clerk and the City Planning Commission and a certified
copy shall also be forwarded to the Register of Deeds for the County of
Wayne for recording.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Straub, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-36-87 RESOLVED that, pursuant to Section 23.01(b) of Zoning Ordinance #543, the
City Planning Commission does hereby establish and order that a public
hearing be held to determine whether or not to rezone property located on
the south side of Grand River Avenue west of Inkster Road in the Northeast
1/4 of Section 1 from RUF to P.
FURTHER that, notice of the above hearing shall be given in accordance with
the provisions of Section 23.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
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4100 On a motion duly made by Mrs. Hildebrandt, seconded by Mr. Vyhnalek, and unanimously
to adopted, it was
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#2-37-87 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby approve the Final
Plat for Canterbury Estates Subdivision proposed to be located on the east
side of Shadyside Avenue, north of Seven Mile Road in the Southwest 1/4 of
Section 3 for the following reasons:
(1) The Final Plat is drawn in conformance with the previously approved
Preliminary Plat.
(2) All financial obligations imposed upon the proprietor by the City have
been complied with.
(3) The Department of Engineering and Building recommends approval of the
Final Plat.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Naidow, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-38-87 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 530th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings
CO held by the City Planning Commission on January 27, 1987 are approved.
ILMr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Soranno, seconded by Mr. Straub, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-39-87 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the
City Council that Petition 86-12-8-64 by Aldo Liberatore requesting
approval of all plans required by Section 18.47 of Zoning Ordinance #543 in
connection with a proposal to construct an office building on the south
side of Seven Mile Road between Middlebelt and Inkster Roads in Section 12,
be approved subject to the following conditions:
(1) That Site Plan #86-355, Sheet 1 prepared by Melonio and Ugorcak, Inc.
is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
(2) That Building Plan #86-355, Sheets 2 & 3 prepared by Melonio and
Ugorcak, Inc. is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
(3) That Landscape Plan #86-355, Sheet 1 prepared by Melonio and Ugorcak,
Inc. is hereby approved and shall be installed on site prior to
building occupancy.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
4 On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 531st Regular Meeting
and Public Hearings was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Donna J. Naidow, Secretary
ATTEST:
C. Russ Smith, Chairman
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(2) All financial obligations imposed upon the proprietor by the City have
been complied with.
(3) The Department of Engineering and Building recommends approval of the
Final Plat.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mrs. Naidow, seconded by Mrs. Hildebrandt, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-38-87 RESOLVED that, the minutes of the 530th Regular Meeting and Public Hearings
held by the City Planning Commission on January 27, 1987 are approved.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made by Mr. Soranno, seconded by Mr. Straub, and unanimously
adopted, it was
#2-39-87 RESOLVED that, the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the
City Council that Petition 86-12-8-64 by Aldo Liberatore requesting
approval of all plans required by Section 18.47 of Zoning Ordinance #543 in
connection with a proposal to construct an office building on the south
side of Seven Mile Road between Middlebelt and Inkster Roads in Section 12,
be approved subject to the following conditions:
(1) That Site Plan #86-355, Sheet 1 prepared by Melonio and Ugorcak, Inc.
is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
(2) That Building Plan #86-355, Sheets 2 & 3 prepared by Melonio and
Ugorcak, Inc. is hereby approved and shall be adhered to;
(3) That Landscape Plan #86-355, Sheet 1 prepared by Melonio and Ugorcak,
Inc. is hereby approved and shall be installed on site prior to
building occupancy.
Mr. Smith, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 531st Regular Meeting
and Public Hearings was adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
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Donna J. Naidow, ecretary
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ATTEST:
C. Russ Smith, Chairman
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