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City of Livonia, Zoning Board of Appeals Page 1 of 18 March 20, 2012
MEMBERS PRESENT: Matt Henzi, Chairman
Craig Pastor, Vice Chairman
Toni Aloe
Sam Caramagno
Ed Duggan
Betsy McCue
MEMBERS ABSENT: Robert Sills
OTHERS PRESENT: Michael Fisher, Assistant City Attorney
Scott Kearfott, City Inspector
Helen Mininni, Court Reporter
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. Chairman Henzi then explained the Rules
of Procedure to those interested parties. Each petitioner must give their name and
address and declare hardship for appeal. Appeals of the Zoning Board's decisions are
made to the Wayne County Circuit Court. The Chairman advised the audience that
appeals can be filed within 21 days of the date tonight’s minutes are approved. The
decision of the Zoning Board shall become final within five (5) calendar days following
the hearing and the applicant shall be mailed a copy of the decision. There are four
decisions the Board can make: to deny, to grant, to grant as modified by the Board, or
to table for further information. Each petitioner may ask to be heard by a full seven (7)
member Board. Six (6) members were present this evening. The Chairman asked if
anyone wished to be heard by a full Board and no one wished to do so. The Secretary
then read the Agenda and Legal Notice to each appeal, and each petitioner indicated
their presence. Appeals came up for hearing after due legal notice was given to all
interested parties within 300 feet, petitioners and City Departments. There were 6
persons present in the audience.
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APPEAL CASE NO. 2012-03-08: Infinity Acquisitions, LLC, 37785 Pembroke, Livonia,
MI 48152, seeking to construct a single family dwelling upon property, resulting in
deficient front yard setback.
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
CITY OF LIVONIA
MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEETING HELD MARCH 20, 2012
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Front Yard Setback
Required: 25.00 ft.
Proposed: 18.34 ft.
Deficient: 6.66 ft.
The property is located on the south side of Curtis Court (18072) between Curtis
Avenue and the cul-de-sac.
Aloe: Mr. Chair, I will be stepping down on the first case.
Henzi: Okay. Scott, anything to add to this case?
Kearfott: Not at this time.
Henzi: Any questions for the Inspection Department? Hearing none, will the Petitioner
please come forward?
Petitioner: Good evening, everyone.
Henzi: Good evening.
Petitioner: For the record, Enrico Soave, for the Petitioner, 37771 Seven Mile Road,
Suite C, Livonia, 48152. Just a few remarks, Mr. Chair. When this was first brought to
my attention across my desk and looking at the preliminary site plan, I had a hard time
understanding why this required a variance whatsoever in order to proceed for a
building permit. But then that squiggly line as you go towards the back of unit 9, which
is also in the rear of unit 8 and unit 10, there’s a floodplain in the back which almost
comes out say in the middle of unit 9 as it goes closer to Curtis Court. And, as you may
know, you can’t build within the floodplain. So, with half the building envelope shrinking
and you have to deal with cul-de-sac frontage, which pushes that building envelope
further back as compared to its adjacent units 10 and 8, you’re dealing with a very
restricted building envelope. This house as proposed is under lot coverage. This house
is being built on units 10 and units 11. It’s only a 1,900 sq. ft. colonial, which most of
the houses there are actually bigger than that whether they’re ranches – I don’t believe
there’s any ranches there, but most of them are colonials or larger first- floor master or
cape cods. Also, there is no surprise why this unit 9 is the last one to be built upon or
one of the last vacant lots here in Curtis Creek Condominium because of uniqueness
idiosyncrasies especially as it relates to unit 9. This is the last lot in the subdivision, as I
believe the other one there that is vacant is sold. And for the Board’s information, my
client, the Petitioner wasn’t the developer of Curtis Creek Condominium; he bought the
remaining five lots in the subdivision so I think the developer knew this problem or
should have known this problem at least by their engineer going into this. It was
approved by the City of Livonia Engineering Department and it has a severe deficiency
on this which hopefully this Board can actually resolve that and allow a house to be built
on it because in my view or interpretation this is an unbuildable lot as it stands now
without any variance or relief this Board may grant tonight.
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Henzi: Do you want to tell us about the building materials?
Petitioner: The building materials, I’m not sure if every Board member has had a chance
or opportunity to drive through there, it’s the exact same house which is a four-bedroom
colonial. There’s two under construction, unit 10 and unit 11. They are both under
construction, one is bricked and one is sold without being bricked, the same exact
house.
Henzi: Okay. The only question I think I have is could you build any other model and be
compliant on this lot?
Petitioner: As the Board would know, colonial has the smallest footprint of any house. A
ranch would just make it bigger, the first-floor master would only make it bigger and this
is 1,900 sq. ft. And you’re dealing with potential restrictions with the actual master
deed, which I didn’t see any restrictions on lots with the actual sizes of houses in there,
but you also want to keep in conformity and harmony with the rest of the neighborhood
as well.
Henzi: I did think of one more. I have driven by the subdivision many, many times and
it seems like all of a sudden now there’s some activity, which is great because it was a
pretty empty development for a long time. When has the activity happened? Has this
all been within the --
Petitioner: In the past eight months.
Henzi: Okay.
Petitioner: There hasn’t been – the acquisition didn’t occur probably until 7 months ago
and now there’s only one house that’s available, which is this unit 9 that’s before you
tonight.
Henzi: It must be unit - it’s either 7 or 11. I can’t remember. The one that’s sold.
Petitioner: That’s the one that’s still vacant; correct?
Henzi: Yeah.
Petitioner: Yeah, that’s sold.
Henzi: Has there been a contract to construct an identical model colonial on that lot as
well?
Petitioner: I don’t know.
Henzi: Okay. Is that your client’s lot or no?
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Petitioner: Correct.
Henzi: It is.
Petitioner: The remaining properties are my client’s lots. This is the last one that is
available for sale and the reason why he’s asking for the petition now rather than later
because he wants to close out that subdivision and no matter what house, we would
have built there and it would require a variance. So, he is being proactive in seeking a
variance now rather than after the fact.
Henzi: Okay. Any questions for the Petitioner?
Pastor: Mr. Chair.
Henzi: Mr. Pastor.
Pastor: Your garage here is 27 ft, 27 ft 8 inches deep. Is there any way of pushing that
back a couple feet to help with this situation?
Petitioner: Pardon my ignorance, but I don’t follow you. It appears to be 20 ft. deep to
the west side; correct?
Pastor: My plan shows it --
Petitioner: Are you looking at the building plans or site plans?
Pastor: I’m looking at the building plan.
Petitioner: I was going by the site plan.
Pastor: No, I only have the building plan.
Petitioner: It’s 20 ft. deep.
Pastor: Do I have a different building plan then?
Petitioner: I’m looking at the foundation plan, yes.
Pastor: It says 27.8 inches?
Henzi: 27, yeah.
Pastor: All of ours say 27.8.
Petitioner: Unless someone switched the building plan, but I have the building plans in
front of me, and it reads –
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Pastor: Look at page 3 of 10. I’m not sure what page you’re on. Look at the garage.
Petitioner: Yeah, that’s the depth – you’re actually taking part of the house with that if
you’re looking at that dimension.
Pastor: I understand, but the depth of the garage is 27.8 inches. Is there any way of
decreasing that a little bit? I’m not talking about a lot, but a little bit to help with the
situation. I understand that there is probably a 4, and maybe even a 5 ft. wall where
that bathroom is. I can’t tell, it doesn’t give me a dimension there so I can’t tell exactly
what it is.
Petitioner: As it reads to this plan and the site plan, I respectfully disagree with that
because I’m looking at the actual – I have a two-car garage and the actual depth is 20
ft. from outside corner to outside corner on the site plan that would be at the western
side of the garage.
Pastor: Yeah, you’re taking the outside wall of that.
Petitioner: Correct.
Pastor: But it also jogs in a couple of feet twice, now it’s 4.5, right there. So it’s actually
– well, its probably 22 ft. deep to get a car in there. Okay. I see. That answered my
question.
Henzi: Any other questions? Hearing none, is there anyone in the audience who wants
to speak for or against this project? If so, come on up to the table. I see no one wants
to speak on this topic. Are there letters on this case?
Caramagno: No, no letters.
Henzi: Is there anything you would like to say in closing, Mr. Soave?
Petitioner: I have nothing further to add. Thank you.
Henzi: Okay, thank you. I will close the public portion of the case and begin the
Board’s comments with Mrs. McCue.
McCue: To me, I think the challenge of the flood zone goes without saying. I get that
all the way around. So I would be inclined to go along with the plan.
Henzi: Mr. Duggan.
Duggan: Yes, I too, will be in support. You are restricted by the floodplain. I think the
plans look great. I think it will add to the neighborhood so I absolutely will be in support.
Henzi: Mr. Pastor.
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Pastor: I also will be in support. It’s nice that this neighborhood is getting built out. So, I
can support this.
Henzi: Mr. Caramagno.
Caramagno: I will be in support as well. The lot coverage is much smaller than what’s
allowed there. Clearly the problem is the floodplain and it’s good to see the lot’s getting
filled up and lived in I suppose, so I am in support.
Henzi: Yes, I agree with the other members. To me this was probably the most visible
floodplain deficiency and that’s a hardship that wasn’t the Petitioner’s doing so I’m also
happy to see this development coming along. It’s a nice subdivision and it looks a lot
better full than it did with only two homes built. The floor is open for a motion.
Upon Motion by Duggan, supported by Pastor, it was:
RESOLVED, APPEAL CASE NO. 2012-03-08: Infinity Acquisitions, LLC, 37785
Pembroke, Livonia, MI 48152, seeking to construct a single family dwelling upon
property, resulting in deficient front yard setback.
Front Yard Setback
Required: 25.00 ft.
Proposed: 18.34 ft.
Deficient: 6.66 ft.
The property is located on the south side of Curtis Court (18072) between Curtis
Avenue and the cul-de-sac, be granted for the following reasons and findings of facts:
1. The uniqueness requirement is met because of the restrictions created by
the floodplains located in the rear yard.
2. Denial of the variance would have severe consequences for the Petitioner
because there is no other way for the home to be built on the property.
3. The variance is fair in light of its effect on the neighboring properties and
in the spirit of the Zoning Ordinance because there have been no letters
objecting to the project and it has the support of the neighborhood.
4. The Board received no letters of approval and no letters of objection from
neighboring property owners.
5. The granting of this variance will not adversely affect the purpose or
objective of the Master Plan because the property is classified “Low-
density Residential” under the Master Plan, and the proposed variance is
not inconsistent with that classification.
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FURTHER, This variance be granted with the following conditions.
1. That the home be built as presented to the Board.
2. That the home be built within 18 months.
3. That the home be built in compliance of Council Resolution 181-02.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Duggan, Pastor, Caramagno, McCue, Henzi
NAYS: None
ABSTAIN: Aloe
ABSENT: Sills
Henzi: The variance is granted with those three conditions, build it as presented, build it
within 18 months and then build it according to the Council Resolution regarding the
neighborhood, amount of brick, et cetera, all those particular requirements. Thank you.
Good luck.
City of Livonia, Zoning Board of Appeals Page 8 of 18 March 20, 2012
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APPEAL CASE NO. 2012-03-09: Jeffrey Street, 15650 Ingram, Livonia, MI 48154,
seeking to construct a detached garage while maintaining an attached garage,
resulting in excess number of garages, total garage area and excess detached
garage height.
Number of Garages Garage Area Garage Height
Allowed: One Allowed: 720 sq. ft. Allowed: 16 ft.
Proposed: Two Proposed: 1395 sq. ft. Proposed: 22 ft.
Excess: One Existing: 675 sq. ft Excess: 6 ft.
Excess: 720 sq. ft.
The property is located on the east side of Ingram (15650) between Five Mile and East
Myrna Ave.
Henzi: Mr. Kearfott, anything to add on this case?
Kearfott: Not at this time.
Henzi: Any questions for the Inspection Department? Hearing none, will the Petitioners
please come forward? Good evening.
Street: Good evening, my name is Jeff Street. I live at 15650 Ingram. My wife, Lynn
Street, is also here tonight. So, I am asking for a variance to allow an accessory
building to be put up. I am in an RUF area. I understand that that’s a pretty wide
variety of sizes of lots and this is a full acre lot so I believe it’s at the higher end of the
RUF. Although the building exceeds the detached, the total lot coverage is still well
under what is allowed by almost 50%. Hopefully, I caused much less controversy than
the goats. Prior to submitting my request, I did speak to all of my adjacent neighbors. I
received support from all of them, there were no complaints, no concerns voiced to me
about putting the building up. And finally on the one block of Ingram between Five Mile
and Myrna, they are all acre lots on both sides of the street. There are 10 homes that
have accessory buildings in excess of the zoning requirement. Of those 10, five of them
have a second floor or a loft as part of it. I am in a two-story house, I believe the intent
on the lot plan was to keep the building in line with the house that from the street I think
the house will more than cover that building.
Henzi: Can you tell us a little bit about the plan, construction meaning is this a
prefabricated structure?
Petitioner: No, it will be built from scratch. When I filed the request, I asked, did I have
to have detailed, and they said no. My plan is to have detailed architectural drawings
created in line with the concept that is presented in the plan. I expect it to be a 2 x 6
wood structure framed, typical framing, to be vinyl sided to match the house. There is a
possibility there is some remaining brick on the lot from the house that a portion of the
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front of that building could maintain a brick similar to the house. The intent is that the
building will be fully insulated and heated.
Henzi: You have a rendering in our packet, is this what it is going to look like? And
then can you go into some detail as to why you need this. And let me preface that by
saying that we get a lot of garage cases and we hear all kinds of detail and we’re
looking for as much detail as possible about why you need it. And we acknowledge that
this a very large lot and that you have extra yard equipment et cetera than a smaller lot
might have, but there wasn’t much detail in the application about exactly what you plan
to be doing in this structure.
Petitioner: All of your documentations said garage, although it looks like a garage my
intent is not to use it as a garage it is to be used as a hobby shop. It has always been
my dream to be able to build that consistent with the usage - in the neighborhood there
are accessory buildings. My intent is to put my workshop in that building and use it for
that. I am retired. It is not a business. There is no commercial traffic coming forward
and back there. There are no hazardous materials. It’s not a garage repair type of
activity where there is material left around in the building. Mr. Kearfott was in the yard
this evening. I think he would verify that the yard is very well maintained and I expect it
to stay that way.
Henzi: What is your hobby?
Petitioner: I build furniture.
Henzi: Okay. Will you use it for anything else; for example, storing boats, watercraft,
anything?
Petitioner: No, I expect to store some lawn equipment on the second floor, snow blower
in the season, that kind of stuff. There’s no boats or other vehicles to be stored there.
Henzi: I think the last question I have for you; hopefully is, why the excess height, that
is a relatively rare request that we see.
Petitioner: For the type of work I am requesting the ability to put a 9 to 10 ft. ceiling on
the first floor to give me the room needed to move material, to turn sheets of plywood or
boards around that I can’t do in an 8 ft. ceiling. That extra height then pushes the
second floor to have a minimal center tunnel down the second floor to be able to walk
there to use for storage.
Henzi: Okay. Any questions for the Petitioner?
Pastor: Mr. Chair.
Henzi: Mr. Pastor.
Pastor: What kind of storage do you plan on doing in the second floor?
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Petitioner: As I said, it might some yard chairs and patio furniture in the winter, snow
blowers, that kind of stuff. It would also be used for lumber storage.
Pastor: How tall is your upstairs?
Petitioner: On my current home?
Pastor: On this, you don’t have any height dimensions on this.
Petitioner: I don’t have the detail because I don’t have the detail of the upper floor truss
to be built. The goal is to be able to have a 6-1/2 ft. clearance to be able to walk there.
Pastor: So, how do we come up with 22 ft. proposed height?
Petitioner: That was an estimate based on a 10 ft. ceiling on the main floor and then a
truss room above that for 6-1/2 ft. above.
Pastor: I thought you said you were going to have this heated and, obviously, you have
high-powered tools you need regular service out there?
Petitioner: We will need electric service there as well, yes.
Pastor: 100 amp, 200 amp service?
Petitioner: We would probably request in the building permit 100 amp service. I am -
about 80 amps would be maximum usage at any time.
Pastor: That will be all for right now.
Henzi: Any other questions?
Aloe: Mr. Chair.
Henzi: Mrs. Aloe.
Aloe: Mr. Kearfott, what is the height of the house, the existing house that’s there? It
say’s one and-a-half stories, do we get a height with that?
Petitioner: I’m sorry, I don’t have that information, but I can tell you although it said one
and-a-half, there is a full second story. It is a two-story home.
Aloe: What would you estimate the height of your home is?
Petitioner: Probably pretty close to 22 to 25.
Aloe: Okay, thank you.
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Kearfott: 35 ft. is the restriction for a house, R-1 through R-5.
Petitioner: I know it’s not that high.
Aloe: 35 ft., my God, what would that be?
Kearfott: Well, if you had two stories plus, you know, if you had a 12/12 roof, it can get
pretty high up there.
Aloe: Okay, thank you.
Pastor: Mr. Chair.
Henzi: Mr. Pastor.
Pastor: Give us a little more detail on what kind of machinery that you’re having in this
– if this is only a machine shop, why do we have two garage doors?
Petitioner: That was the style – I mean, I need - it could be done with one garage door.
I do need that room to move things in and out, a wide door, so it could be done with one
as opposed to two. The type of machinery that’s in there, there’s a table saw, band
saw, jointers, planers, that type of standard woodworking equipment.
Pastor: Yes, but this is a large building, a table saw does not take up – I mean, it takes
up some room, but --
Petitioner: My current workshop is in my basement. My goal is to get it out of there
because of the dust that is created even though I have pretty high efficiency dust
collection and air filters in there, it still does generate dust. The space allocated in the
basement is exactly the space that I am asking for in this garage. So, the workshop
does consume that much floor space.
Pastor: Including the upstairs?
Petitioner: No.
Pastor: So, you’re adding for the upstairs?
Petitioner: I am adding the ability to have some storage for garden, you know, patio
furniture, and that from wintertime.
Pastor: This is a large shop for a wood shop. I happen to be in the construction
industry and I know that.
Petitioner: I have a picture of my current shop on phone if you care to see it, but that is
the size of the shop that is in the basement at this time.
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Mrs. Street: I can vouch for that.
Pastor: That will be all for right at this moment.
Henzi: Mr. Street, do you plan to have a hard surface leading back to the garage?
Petitioner: No, the intent would be there would be a short apron 4 to 6 ft. in front of the
building, but no hard walkway between the buildings.
Henzi: What kind of equipment do you use to take care of your lawn; like for instance,
riding lawnmower, et cetera. And can you tell us a little bit about that and then where
you’re going to put that kind of stuff.
Petitioner: My father-in-law lives across the street from us, that equipment, the tractor is
stored in his accessory building.
Henzi: Okay. Scott, I have a question for you. I think it’s two doors down from Mr.
Street’s house, I think it’s 15928, I’m not certain, but there is a pretty large white, what
appears to be block barn-looking structure.
Petitioner: There are two other buildings that are larger than that one on the block.
Henzi: I’m not surprised, but my question was do you have any idea how old that is and
would it predate the ordinance?
Kearfott: I do not know how old that is. I did look up in the history file cases that came
before the Zoning Board and there is actually quite a few in that general area,
Auburndale, Ingram, and Myrna that do have excess number of accessory buildings and
excess square footage.
Henzi: Do you have any idea --
Kearfott: But I don’t know the one that you are talking about, that you are addressing?
Henzi: You don’t remember the white one?
Kearfott: No.
Henzi: Mr. Street, do you have any idea what size that building is?
Petitioner: That building, yeah, I know which one - the building that you’re talking about.
That building is about 20 x 28, I think. The footprint is probably just a little bit smaller.
I’m guessing that that is certainly in excess of 16 ft. in height though that’s a pretty tall
building.
Henzi: Yeah, okay. That’s my guess, too. Thank you, any other questions?
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Pastor: Mr. Chair.
Henzi: Mr. Pastor.
Pastor: Going back to the hard surface, if you aren’t having a hard surface back there,
how are you getting all your material back there?
Petitioner: Carry it or with a tractor. Most of my material comes in as, you know, a
board, a piece of lumber.
Pastor: Well, you were talking about plywood earlier.
Petitioner: Or a sheet of plywood. So, I would carry it or I would put it on –
Pastor: You’re not going to drive a vehicle back there, or you’re not going to get a bulk
delivery of 30 sheets of whatever and --
Petitioner: No, I don’t. I go and buy a few sheets of plywood at a time and I would
carry it or put it on a cart to go back there.
Pastor: Okay, thank you.
Petitioner: I don’t – when I say I build furniture, I build a few pieces a year. I don’t have
that much material flow in and out of the facility
Henzi: Is it something that you build for family and friends?
Petitioner: Family and friends, it’s not a business. There is no commercial – I don’t
charge them. It’s just something that I enjoy doing.
Henzi: Any other questions?
Fisher: Mr. Chair, can I just ask a question?
Henzi: Mr. Fisher.
Fisher: Do you have a motor home or some kind of vehicle like that on the back of your
property?
Petitioner: We used to store the motor home in the back. That is now stored off site,
has been for several years now. So, you may see a previous Google image, Google
map or image that shows a motor home there, it hasn’t been stored on the lot for
several years.
Fisher: And your intention is not to bring it back.
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Petitioner: Not to bring it back.
Henzi: Did you have your home constructed?
Petitioner: Yes, we did.
Henzi: That’s a fairly recent build.
Petitioner: 1988, and then there was a second floor dormer put on in about in 19 – we
were talking about that earlier today, 1998, 1999.
Henzi: And who is going to build the structure?
Petitioner: TBD at this point. We will get a commercial builder to put it up.
Henzi: Okay. Any other questions? Hearing none, is there anyone in the audience who
wants to speak for or against this project? If so, come on up.
I see no one coming forward. Are there letters?
Caramagno: Yes. William Zombory [15571 Ingram] writes an approval (letter was read)
[15571, 15670, 15928 all in Ingram Ave.]. We have an approval from Ken Lundberg
[15570 Ingram] and an approval from Eileen (& Thomas) Walsh [15610 Ingram].
Henzi: Mr. Street, is there anything you would like to say in closing?
Petitioner: Nothing else, I realize it is a large building, and I think the lot can support it. I
think it has been demonstrated by – there’s several other large buildings in that
neighborhood and I don’t believe it’s affected the value or the aesthetic look of the
neighborhood. I think it can fit in there very well.
Henzi: Thank you. I will close the public portion of the case and begin the Board’s
comments with Mr. Duggan.
Duggan: You are asking for a large area, I mean, you asked for 720 in excess, but if
you need that much room, if your basement is already a similar length and that’s the
amount you need. You do have a big property, so I do think you can support it and I will
be in support.
Henzi: Mr. Pastor.
Pastor: You have done a beautiful job on these plans. I’m not really convinced about
the upstairs; the size is a little bit large. You’re not storing any equipment in there other
than your woodworking equipment. I don’t know that I can support this because my fear
is when you move someone is going to use that for an apartment. It is going to be fully
heated it is going to have the same amount of power. We didn’t talk about facilities for
restrooms or anything.
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Petitioner: My intent is not to have water. I do not need water to the building and that
would also then mean no sewer, so the intent is not to have a restroom in the building.
Pastor: But nevertheless, I am not fully comfortable with this. At this particular second,
I am not in support but I could change my mind.
Henzi: Mr. Caramagno.
Caramagno: I think it’s a good-looking piece here. I figured you had hot rods or
snowmobiles or motorcycles or something when I first saw it. But everybody has their
own little hobby and yours just happens to be woodworking. Matt asked the question
earlier about the other buildings on the street and the size of them and to be quite
honest with you driving down that street if you’re not looking for big outbuildings in the
back, you don’t even see them. They don’t even impact the neighborhood at all. It’s an
acre lot. This is a very nice and classy design. I like it and I am going to be in support
of it. You mentioned you might put some brick on the front of it.
Petitioner: I think that is a possibility. There is some remaining brick to at least put a
ribbon on the front.
Caramagno: That certainly does something for me. I’d like to see a ribbon on it and I
think it would only make it look that much better. You already have a good looking
property, good looking home. I can’t see you doing anything that would hurt that and
you mentioned that you were going to put an apron on the front of the building. We
didn’t talk about size, but I see you have got to have something out there.
Petitioner: It would be a small landing spot maybe in the 6 ft. range or something like
that.
Caramagno: So at this point, I am in support.
Henzi: Mrs. Aloe.
Aloe: Well, it is a large building and I am struggling with it. I think when Petitioners
come in and they name and diagram all these things they want to store in a building, the
tendency is more to say, yeah, they need it. They’ve got the boat, they’ve got the snow
– you know, you see it all in the building, but like Mr. Pastor stated that the fear is what’s
going to happen when you leave? That’s another issue with it. I agree, I mean, your lot
supports it. It’s consistent with other buildings in the area. So, I somewhat can support
it, I guess that’s what I can say.
Henzi: Mrs. McCue.
McCue: I found it really original, very attractive. I like it a lot, very nice. I again just like
they had said, the lot definitely supports it. With the information that the others around
you also have similar types of structure, I think when you’re talking about not having it
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plumbed it, makes more sense to me and we can kind of deviate from the concern that
somebody is going to move into the upstairs there. It’s not going to happen.
Petitioner: Right.
McCue: So, I would be in support.
Petitioner: Thank you.
Henzi: The main problem I have with it is the garage height because I just don’t, I don’t
have the plans, I don’t have support for 22 ft. and to me on these big garage cases the
height is the most significant. But overall this is extremely large; however, and I don’t
like to grant large garages like this; however, I’m looking for outbuildings as I drive up
and down that street and they are everywhere. Multiple outbuildings and large ones
and the neighbor two doors down has got one that’s definitely greater than 16 ft. in
height and definitely greater than what would be otherwise allowed and is conspicuous
because there is nothing blocking it because of the way that that lot exists which I don’t
think is going to happen here because it is going to go behind the home. I don’t think
people are ever going to notice.
Petitioner: It will be behind the home in line with it and Mr. Kearfott can tell you on the
lot line closest to the building is a very large row of pine trees that if you’re coming up
from the road that would block that view.
Henzi: Yes. It is an eclectic street with varying home styles and it’s a very large lot so
I’d like to chop something off the garage height a few feet, but other than that I think I
can live with the request. Take note, we have some consternation because typically
people come in and want to store three snow mobiles, two classic cars, all sorts of
things and the discussion centers around wouldn’t it look better inside than out and this
is quite different. But given – in my opinion what trumps everything is the fact that
almost every neighbor – I shouldn’t say almost every – many of your neighbors has
structures that are this big or close to it. So, the floor is open for a motion.
Upon Motion by Caramagno, supported by Duggan, it was:
RESOLVED, APPEAL CASE NO. 2012-03-09: Jeffrey Street, 15650 Ingram, Livonia,
MI 48154, seeking to construct a detached garage while maintaining an attached
garage, resulting in excess number of garages, total garage area and excess
detached garage height.
Number of Garages Garage Area Garage Height
Allowed: One Allowed: 720 sq. ft. Allowed: 16 ft.
Proposed: Two Proposed: 1395 sq. ft. Proposed: 22 ft.
Excess: One Existing: 675 sq. ft Excess: 6 ft.
Excess: 720 sq. ft.
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The property is located on the east side of Ingram (15650) between Five Mile and East
Myrna Ave., be granted for the following reasons and findings of facts:
1. The uniqueness requirement is met because the Petitioner would like to
have a place to do his woodworking outside of his basement in his home.
2. Denial of the variance would have severe consequences for the Petitioner
because he would have to continue to do his hobby in his basement,
which creates a lot of dust throughout the home.
3. The variance is fair in light of its effect on the neighboring properties and
in the spirit of the Zoning Ordinance because this is a neighborhood of
very large lots and there are no neighbor complaints and there are many
other accessory buildings on these properties.
4. The Board received (3) three letters of approval and no letters of objection
from neighboring property owners.
5. The granting of this variance will not adversely affect the purpose or
objective of the Master Plan because the property is classified “Low-
density Residential” under the Master Plan, and the proposed variance is
not inconsistent with that classification.
FURTHER, This variance be granted with the following conditions.
1. That the building be built as presented tonight, including removal of the
shed.
2. That it match the house in terms of siding.
3. That there is an approach to the garage with apron in front of the garage.
4. That some brick be put on the front of the garage that faces Ingram.
5. That electric service not exceeding 100 amps is permitted in the building.
6. That no plumbing and no running water may be installed in the building.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Caramagno, Duggan, Aloe, McCue
NAYS: Pastor, Henzi
ABSENT: Sills
Henzi: The variance is granted. I will read you the conditions. You have got to build it
as presented. You have to match the vinyl siding to the home. You have got to
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construct the concrete apron as described tonight, brick on the front. As discussed 100
amp service and then no plumbing. Good luck to you.
Mrs. Street: Can I just ask a question. You said brick on the front. Do you just mean
trim?
Henzi: An apron.
Mrs. Street: You don’t mean the whole front?
Henzi: No, I think he was referencing as what was described tonight.
Mrs. Street: Because that’s right out my bedroom window and I really don’t like the
brick.
Henzi: No.
Mrs. Street: Just trim.
Petitioner: Yes.
Mrs. Street: Okay.
Petitioner: Thank you.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting adjourned at
7:45 p.m.
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SAM CARAMAGNO, Secretary
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MATTHEW HENZI, Chairman
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