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CITY OF LIVONIA
PUBLIC HEARING
Minutes of Meeting Held on Wednesday, January 11, 2017
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A Public Hearing of the Council of the City of Livonia was held at the City Hall
Auditorium on Wednesday, January 11, 2017.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Kathleen E. McIntyre, President
Brandon M. Kritzman, Vice President
Scott Bahr
Maureen Miller Brosnan
Jim Jolly
Brian Meakin
Cathy K. White
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
OTHERS PRESENT: Mark Taormina, Director of Planning
Todd Zilincik, City Engineer
Don Knapp, City Attorney
Bonnie J. Murphy, CER-2300, Certified Electronic Recorder
The Public Hearing was called to order at 7:07 p.m. with President Kathleen McIntyre
presiding. The Public Hearing is in regard to Petition 2016-11-01-07 submitted by the
City of Livonia to rezone the property located on the south side of Five Mile Road
between Farmington Road and Shadyside Street, 33233-33243 Five Mile Road in the
Northwest ¼ of Section 22, from PL (Public Land) to C-1 (Local Business).
The City Clerk has mailed a notice to those persons in the area affected by the
proposed changes, and all other requirements of Ordinance No. 543, the Zoning
Ordinance, have been fulfilled. The public hearing is now open for comments. There
were three people in the audience. Please state your clearly your name and address
before making your comments.
McIntyre: Mr. Taormina?
Taormina: Thank you, Madam President. And this is a request to rezone certain
property located here in the Civic Center Campus. This is the former
Chamber of Commerce Office Building which as everyone knows is
located on the south side of Five Mile Road, just east of Farmington Road
and the area of land that we’re considering this evening is only about
2,600 square feet, it includes 36 feet of frontage on Five Mile by a depth of
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73 feet. The building on the property is about 1,575 square feet in size so
it occupies the majority of the parcel. A little bit about the history on this,
records show that the City acquired the property in the 1970s. It was
zoned C-2 and used as an office in conjunction with a real estate company
at the time that the property was purchased. But after we purchased it in
1974 the City rezoned it to Public Land and for many years after that it
served as the location of Livonia’s Youth Assistance Program. But
following the relocation of the Youth Assistance here to City Hall in the
space that was vacated by the Parks and Recreation Department after it
moved to the Recreation Center, the building was leased to the Livonia
Chamber of Commerce and it served as Livonia’s welcome center, thus
the PL zoning for the past four years has been appropriate given the quasi
public usage that the property has been used for. But now the site is
empty and you received a correspondence from the Mayor several months
ago whereby he requested that you consider rezoning this property to C-1
and that would be our attempt at looking to expand our options for leasing
the building possibly for commercial purposes. The C-1 zoning as
requested would allow the City to market the property for a variety of
commercial uses ranging from general office to retail. The Future Land
Use Plan does currently show the site as Community Service, but if
approved, the C-1 zoning would probably be only for a short term basis as
the City would entertain leasing this property given the fact that we’ll be
taking a closer examination of the Civic Center Land Use Plan as part of
our Comprehensive Master Plan Process scheduled for later this year.
So, with that, I’ll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you.
Bahr: I’ll just confess my mind wandered a little bit while you were talking, Mark,
in your excellent presentation, and you probably said what I’m about to
ask. So when this came before Council a few months back, what is it we
approved, did we approve to have a public hearing?
Taormina: Yes.
Bahr: Okay, so it’s just a process question.
Taormina: Yes. The Council referred the matter to the Planning Commission to hold
a public hearing and thereafter submitted its report and recommendation.
Bahr: Got it, okay. So we hold a public hearing and then it goes on?
Taormina: That’s correct.
Kritzman: Madam Chair?
McIntyre: Yes, Vice President Kritzman.
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Kritzman: I think that this is an important piece of property for the future of Livonia
and taking that look into what the next decades will bring to the Civic
Center Campus. So although I’m not particularly interested in tying this
up on a long term basis but I don’t believe that’s the intention of the
administration and I think it would be helpful for them to have as much
latitude and flexibility as possible in marketing this property. So I would
look forward to offering an approving motion this evening, but prior to
formally doing so I have one question for Mr. Taormina and maybe it’s a
process question for Council, but if I recall the Chamber of Commerce
lease renewal came before us for approval, would any leasing of that
property also come before Council for approval prior to the City making
any long term commitment for the property?
Taormina: I’ll pass that over to Don.
Knapp: Yes.
Kritzman: So, with that I think we would have the authority at that point to take a
pass on something if we felt that it was tying the property up for longer
than we wanted it to, so given that we have that ultimate say, Mr. Knapp?
Knapp: Just to sort of add onto that, we’re aware what the adjacent tenant’s lease
term is, so at this point, you know, if we were to lease it tomorrow it
wouldn’t be for any longer than the Sam’s Place lease would be.
Kritzman: Correct, and I think that’s understood and I think that’s right. I think
Council understands that that’s the intention of the administration, so with
that I would offer the approving resolution.
McIntyre: Mr. Meakin.
Meakin: Thank you, Madam President. I have a few issues with this proposal. As
the Planning Director mentioned, it’s 2,600 square feet of property that
has been on our campus for a long time and my colleague mentioned that
it doesn’t fit into our long term goals for the campus. I do not believe the
City should be in the retail office business. There are professionals that
handle that, we don’t have the staffing to take care of that and be
responsible for managing such a property. We have other properties on
our campus such as the courthouse that are far more viable to rent out to
the public but we haven’t done that yet. It just doesn’t meet our long term
goals for the campus and I don’t think it’s appropriate that we should be
spending time on something that we might be getting a few hundred
dollars a month for rent,. We shouldn’t be in that business, we should
leave that to the private industry. I just don’t think that this is a good idea
for a short term problem to solve for a few months rent, it doesn’t help us
in the long run, so I’m going to offer a denying resolution as well.
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Bahr: Madam President.
McIntyre: Yes, Mr. Bahr.
Bahr: Yes, through the Chair to Mr. Taormina, so if we were to go through with
this and we go through the Master Planning Process at present and in that
part of the Master Plan to improve the Civic Campus, we would then have
to go through and rezone it back at that time, to Public Land, is that true?
Taormina: Not necessarily. We wouldn’t have to adjust the zoning at the time the
Future Land Use Plan is adopted if there’s a difference. If there’s a
conflict between what the Future Land Use Plan and the Master Plan
recommends for this site and the zoning that’s in place at that time, the
Master Plan is nonbinding. But yes, it would be important in the future that
if we follow that Master Plan, that any recommended change of land use,
that the zoning be consistent with that recommended change of land use.
Bahr: So, as the City is the owner of the property, it’s up to the City to make that
happen?
Taormina: Correct.
Bahr: My only other comment would be, and I appreciate Mr. Meakin’s
comments, he raises a good point, but I guess I’d just put the question out
there, just thinking out loud, I wonder taking into consideration how
collecting money from this is any different than collecting money from the
other places in the City where we are bringing in income, collecting rent
from other facilities, Parks and Rec, there’s other facilities where we are
taking in income so I’m just thinking out loud, wondering how this is
different, I’m just going to put that question out there.
McIntyre: Mr. Jolly.
Jolly: Thank you, Madam President. How long is Sam’s Place lease, how long
of a period are you talking about here?
Taormina: 2020, I think.
Knapp: That sounds about right, I think it’s about three years.
Jolly: So potentially we’re talking about leasing the property then for up to three
years?
Taormina: Right.
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Jolly: Thank you.
Brosnan: Madam Chair.
McIntyre: Yes.
Brosnan: Through the Chair to Mr. Taormina, and there’s nothing in the Public Land
zoning classification that allows us the flexibility to provide relief for that
property other than rezoning?
Taormina: No, not that I can think of. No, there’s no, you know, really the uses
intended for the PL zoning are by large all community service, public
venue related, so no. And I think, in discussing this matter with the Law
Department, and in particular Mr. Fisher, part of the motivation for making
sure that the zoning is appropriate for the use if it should be leased to a
private entity is this being consistent with the approach that we take with
respect to the school district because that has been an issue. As they go
to lease their facilities that are now available, we maintained that those
properties should be appropriately zoned for the type of commercial
enterprises that they’re bringing in to them, so we want to maintain that
consistency.
Brosnan: And then back to the issue of the Master Plan, we’ve spoken about this at
a number of other opportunities and venues, when do we see that process
wrapping up?
Taormina: I would hope that initiating the process within the coming months would
provide I think a schedule, timeframe, that we could complete it by,
hopefully by the end of the year or early next year. I guess that really
depends on the final scope of services that are going to be part of the
process and what kind of timeframe is laid out by the consultant,
whenever that consultant is selected. And as you know the process of just
selecting a consultant is going to take a few months of negotiating a final
contract. So once that’s completed and we actually kick off the actual
work, I’m guessing it’s a six to eight month process, maybe even a ten
month process but that’s just an early projection on my part.
Brosnan: My thought is that the value in having this property as Public Land in the
long run may be greater than the short term gain that we get in leasing the
property. And I do think that while the Master Plan, as you’ve indicated, is
not a document that obligates us to use property a certain way, Livonia
has been fairly true to its Master Plan historically and that’s one of the
things I appreciate and I think many of the people who come to develop
businesses and develop property here appreciate. So, my original
inclination and I will continue to give this thought but my original inclination
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is that we ought to let the Master Plan play out and see what the
recommendation is for that property following that and then take up the
issue of rezoning. I think this is a critical piece of property and as we go
about our continued development of the Civic Center area and we may
find that this is an integral part that we need to do that and do it at its
fullest and highest benefit to the community. Thank you.
McIntyre: Vice President Kritzman.
Kritzman: Thank you, Madam Chair. I just have a couple of points to touch on that
were just mentioned. One, the Master Plan item falls under two
committees, one which is mine, is the Strategic Planning Committee and
the other one there’s a component of it that falls under the Committee of
the Whole. The Administration has drafted a draft version of the RFP, it is
actually waiting on us setting a Council committee meeting which we’re
looking to try to do in the next two weeks. At that point we’re hoping to get
some direction whether we pursue it through Council, through the
Administration, through the stakeholder committee to get some clarity
there and then we’ll start to move forward issuing the RFP, getting that
process started there. I for one am still very hopeful this will be wrapped
up before the end of the year. But touching on that, as far as the
Chamber of Commerce building goes, at this point we don’t know what the
long term plan for that place is and until that Master Plan process is
executed, we don’t have any definitive intention for that area and I think if
we have a chance for the next three and a half years to recoup some
money from that, it’s at least worth looking at and considering. So in my
mind this rezoning is something that is not necessarily going to obligate us
in any one direction, but offers the opportunity to potentially recoup some
of the money that we are currently losing on that property. The rent rate of
the Chamber of Commerce was $1,640 per month, if you multiply that on
a monthly basis over say roughly three, three and a half years, not
counting the full 2016 or the full 2020, that brings us close to $70,000. and
right now the City of Livonia is responsible for paying the utility bills on that
property, and if we were able to lease it out, the lessee would be
responsible for those. So at this point it’s not just sitting there empty, it’s
actually costing us money to protect the investment that we have in it
already and to keep the water running at a minimum. So it’s not
necessarily certain that we’re going to lease this out to anyone, and
certainly we would want to be very careful in what type of business and
who we’re going to lease it to because it is in such close proximity to the
City. But I see it at this point as an opportunity at the very least that’s
worth exploring.
White: Madam Chair.
McIntyre: Yes.
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White: Through the Chair to Mark, Mark, the Master Plan at this point, does it
have any ideas for that piece of property?
Taormina: No. Again, well, the current Future Land Use map does identify this area
as community service, so that’s all we have really at this point. The
upcoming effort of updating the Master Plan, creating a new Master Plan,
we could see a completely different suggested land use for this portion of
the Civic Center property. That’s going to be an engaging discussion, I’m
sure, at some point along the way.
White: I just wondered if there were preliminary discussions or thoughts about
that. Thank you.
McIntyre: Anyone else? Anyone in the audience? All right, then we’ll close this
public hearing. And this item will be on the regular meeting set for
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January 30.
As there were no further questions or comments, the Public Hearing was declared
closed at 7:24 p.m.
SUSAN M. NASH, CITY CLERK