HomeMy WebLinkAbout1,156 - June 23, 2020MINUTES OF THE 1,156t' PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, June 3 the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia
held its 1,15611 Public Hearings and Regular Meeting via Zoom Meeting Software.
Mr. Ian Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Members present: David Bongero Sam Caramagno Glen Long
Betsy McCue Carol Smiley Peter Ventura
Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: None
Mr. Mark
Taormina,
Planning Director,
Scott Miller, Planner
IV, Stephanie Reece,
Program
Supervisor
and Debra Walter,
Clerk -Typist II were
also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETITION 2020-05-02-03 BAI-LYNN MARKET
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2020-
05-02-03 submitted by Bai-Lynn Market Inc. requesting waiver
use approval pursuant to Section 10.03(g) of the City of Livonia
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to utilize a S.D.M. liquor
license (sale of packaged beer and wine) and a S.D.D. liquor
license (sale of packaged spirits over 21 % alcohol) in connection
with a proposed party store (Bai-Lynn Market) at 33286 Six Mile
Road, located on the northeast corner of Six Mile and Farmington
Roads in the Southwest % of Section 10.
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Mr. Taormina: This is a request to allow the sale of packaged alcohol, including
beer, wine, and spirits for consumption off premises in connection
with the operation of a new party store. The location is the Burton
Hollow shopping center, which is at the northeast corner of Six
Mile and Farmington Roads. The zoning map shows the location
of the property, as well as the zoning, which is C-1 (Local
Business). Burton Hollow plaza sits on a parcel that
approximately 4.2 acres in size with over 31,000 square feet of
rentable building area and approximately 17 leasable units. The
main tenants in the plaza include the Secretary of State, Golden
Gift jewelers, as well as Baskin -Robbins. Both the SDM and the
SDD licenses would be transferred to the new location at Burton
Hollow. They are currently being held in escrow at 13950
Merriman Road which is the former Bai-Lynn Market on the east
side of Merriman just north of Schoolcraft. Last year, the property
on Merriman was sold to Speedway, which owns and operates
the gas station and is located on the adjacent corner property.
The former owner of Bai-Lynn retained ownership of the licenses,
placed them in escrow with the Michigan Liquor License Control
Commission with the intent of leasing the unit at the Burton
Hollow Plaza and reactivating those licenses at that new location.
The proposed party store would occupy a unit on the Six Mile side
of the shopping plaza. The unit is located between Pan Pan
Chinese takeout, as well as Papa Johns. It is a smaller unit, at
about 1,357 square feet, 17 Y2 feet in width by a depth of roughly
78 feet. There are angled parking spaces in front of the store
adjacent to Six Mile Road. There are about 23 parking spaces in
total on this side of the plaza. Traffic flow normally operates in
one direction, from west to east. However, the abutting drive aisle
and driveways at either end of the drive aisle are wide enough for
two-way traffic flow with ingress and egress to Six Mile Road.
The zoning ordinance requires that any new SDM license
establishment not be within 500 feet of any existing SDM licensed
business and any new SDD license establishment not be within
1000 feet of any existing SDD licensed business. The difference
between the SDD and the SDM is that the SDM allows for the
sale of beer and wine products, whereas the SDD license allows
for the sale of packaged spirits. There are no active SDM or SDD
licenses within either of these specified separation distances.
The closest party stores or licensed establishments are all
approximately one mile away. This includes the Wine Castle at
the southwest corner of Seven Mile and Farmington,
Showerman's at the northwest corner of Five Mile and Merriman,
and Tweeney's at the northwest corner of Merriman and Seven
Mile. The zoning ordinance specifies that a licensed
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establishment shall not be within 400 feet of a church or school
building. There are no schools or churches located within 400
feet of the proposed party store. No modifications to the building
exterior are planned with this proposal. They would be allowed
one wall sign with a maximum area of one square foot of each
one lineal foot of store frontage. In this case, it would be 17 or 18
square feet that they would be entitled to in terms of signage. The
petitioner has indicated that the hours of operation would be
11:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday and closed on
Sunday's. In terms of parking, Burton Hollow Plaza is required to
have 169 spaces. However, this is an older shopping center. It
has 138 on -site parking spaces, which represents a deficiency of
roughly 18%. Next door at Abbey Flooring there is surplus
parking available. Although it is not very convenient to the
location of the proposed party store, an agreement is in place
between the owners of both properties that allows for the non-
exclusive use of 48 parking spaces on the Abbey Flooring
property by the employees and patrons of Burton Hollow Plaza.
With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: The first item is from the Division of Police, dated May 26, 2020,
which reads as follows: We have reviewed the plans in
connection with Bai-Lynn Market, Inc. requesting waiver use
approval, pursuant to Section 10.03 (g) of the City of Livonia
Zoning Ordinance #543 to utilize an SOM liquor license (sale of
packaged beer and wine) and an SOD liquor license (sale of
packaged spirits over 21 % alcohol). This request is in connection
with the operations of a party store (Bai-Lynn Market) located at
33286 Six Mile Road, within the Burton Hollow Plaza, on the
northeast corner of Six Mile and Farmington Roads in the
southwest quarter of Section 10. Upon review of the plans with
the Chief of Police, parking may be a concern at this location
considering the proximity of other businesses" This letter is
signed by Jeffrey Ronayne, Special Services Bureau. The next
letter is from the Inspection Department, dated June 9, 2020,
which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above -
referenced petition has been reviewed. This Department has no
objections to this petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna,
Director of Inspection. The next letter is from the Finance
Department, dated May 22, 2020, which reads as follows: "1 have
reviewed the address connected with the above noted petition.
As there are no outstanding amounts receivable (general or water
and sewer), 1 have no objections to the proposal." The letter is
signed by Connie Kumpula, Chief Accountant. The next letter is
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from the Treasurer's Department, dated May 26, 2020, which
reads as follows: "In accordance with your request, the
Treasurer's Office has reviewed the name and addresses
connected with the above noted petition. There are no taxes due
at this time, therefore I have no objections to the proposal."The
letter is signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. This is an email from
a resident, Mike Pasick, 32941 Southgate, Livonia, MI, dated
June 10, 2020 and it reads: "As a long-time resident of the Burton
Hollow Woods subdivision, I'm am opposed to any approval of a
liquor license to the Bai-Lynn Market Inc. I am not opposed to the
owner having a party store "without liquor sales" at the proposed
location at 6 & Farmington. I have several concerns: 1. This
location is one mile from the Wine Castle at 7 mile and
Farmington. How many liquor stores do we need in such a close
proximity? 2. This location is less than a half mile and within
walking distance from Stevenson High School. I don't think it is a
good idea tempt or make it any easier for teens to have access
to liquior. Yes, a lot of students have fake Us! 3. A liquor store
is just another target for break-in's or robberies. 4. The potential
for more drinking while driving on our roads. 5. Retailer signs
promoting liquor sales gives our nice conservative community an
undesireable reputation that could detract from home sales in this
area. Please think twice about approving the liquor license." The
next email is from another resident, Lora Weingarden. 32941
Southgate, Livonia, MI, dated June 10, 2020. It reads the same
as the last email I just read. I believe the language of this email
is identical. It is addressed to the City Planning Commission.
She expresses her concerns one through five, just as were
enumerated in the previous email. The next email is from Dianne
Duffy, 17362 Bell Creek Lane, Livonia, MI, dated June 22, 2020
and it reads: "I am writing to protest a proposed party - Bai-Lynn
Market at 33286 Six Mile Road. I do notwant a S.D.M. liquorstore
so close to Burton Hollow Woods residences.1) There is a long-
time liquor store at 7 Mile and Farmington - the Wine Castle 2)
There is very little parking in that whole plaza due to the S.O.S.
offices in addition to the other businesses that are long
established in that area. 3) Stevenson High School is in close
proximity to this proposed establishment. I have been a
residence in this area for over 30 years and I have never wished
that a party store was closer to my home. I really don't think this
type of establishment is of any benefit to our city." That is the
extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director?
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Mr. Bongero: One question for Mark. Do you know of any of the adjoining
businesses, whether they had feedback for or against this
proposal?
Mr. Taormina: I have not heard of any business owners in the immediate vicinity
nor have we received any written correspondence from any of the
business owners in the immediate area. I am not aware of any
objections or support one way or the other.
Mr. Bongero: Okay, thanks.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Bongero.
Ms. Smiley: I had a similar question. I had an occasion to go into Golden Gifts
and talk to the owners, Dave and Bobby, and they are actually in
favor of it. They said it would be good for Pan Pan and for the
pizza store on the other side because they thought they could
make a quick trip in and out of there for pop, beer, wine, or
whatever to go with one of the things they were picking up from
the other two places. Those two places are not really sit down so
they thought that people would be in and out quickly, which they
are. He also said that it would really help that particular shopping
center in that particular place. He anticipated no problem with the
parking. You haven't heard anything about the parking have you,
Mark? He thinks all of those are quick stop and go activities in
that area. Have you heard anything about the parking, Mark?
Mr. Taormina: No. I think everyone is familiar with this shopping plaza and the
parking issues that are really focused around the Secretary of
State because of the high demand for parking, mostly at the end
of the month and the beginning of the month services. The cross -
access and parking agreement between the two property owners,
Abbey Flooring and Design and Burton Hollow Plaza, really
benefits mostly the patrons of the Secretary of State, and maybe
some of the adjoining businesses in the main part of the plaza.
There are a few vacancies in the area along Six Mile Road and
there is not real high demand traffic in this area. Typically, party
stores would generate a similar type of traffic pattern as the carry-
out restaurants I would imagine. A lot of in and out movement
would probably be the case.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you.
Mr. Long: Mark, a couple things. The liquor license can move within the
county. Is that correct? It is not restricted to the city limits
anymore.
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Mr. Taormina: There have been some recent rule changes as it relates to these
licenses. With the SDM, there is a quota but it is rather generous.
SDD licenses can now be transferred intra-county, meaning that
it can move to any community in Wayne County. You will see on
the map that it shows all the licenses in the City of Livonia. There
are 32 licenses, 31 of which are active and the one that we are
dealing with tonight that is in escrow, That would move and we
show the arrow pointing to where it is currently escrowed and
where it would be activated near Six Mile and Farmington. The
32 licenses are two down from what our original quota was, which
was 34. That number can fluctuate because of the change in the
MLCC rules. For example, if this is rejected and the owner wants
to move it to another community or sell it to someone else who
wants to activate it in another community, we would lose that
license forever. The city could accept a license from another
community. No longer is there a cap, other than what the
community decides is appropriate. It is a kind of the wild west of
the liquor licenses with the changes in the MLCC rules.
Mr. Long: Yes, thank you. The other thing to point out is, since you have
this graphic up, the distribution throughout the city. This is kind
of an empty spot within the city if we do decide we want to allow
this. That is not really a question, it is more of a comment, I
guess. I am done. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Long. Anyone else with questions for our
Planning staff?
Ms. Smiley: Did we have any problem with Bai-Lynn, Mark? I should have
asked to check with the Police Department before this, but have
they had any liquor license infractions or anything like that?
Mr. Taormina: I did not check that. I am not sure whether the license information
that is available on the website would show that. As you proceed
with the discussion I can go on to the website and see whether
there are any posted violations from when this store did operate.
Those would be noted on the website.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Any other questions for our Planning staff? I don't see any. Mr.
Konja is here in our audience. I will allow him to talk. Just a
moment. Mr. Ventura?
Mr. Ventura: I didn't realize
I needed to unmute myself. Mr. Taormina,
I would
like to go back
to the parking and
traffic flow issues. The
parking
spaces in front
of this strip store
on Six Mile are angled
spaces.
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They are angled to the northeast and southeast, meaning that if
you enter the parking row from the western most Six Mile access
you can pull into the parking spaces as they are designed.
However, there is also an entrance from Six Mile Road from
westbound Six Mile Road on the western boundary of the
property and many cars pull in there and find that they are, if you
will, going against the grain with respect of the parking spaces.
So, cars end up parked all over the place, across the stripes and
that kind of stuff. If we are going to add another high traffic use
here, I would like to see this owner, before we do, rationalize this
parking. I do frequent both of the fast food restaurants or take
out restaurants there. Parking is a mess. Especially down at that
end of that strip where people are pulling in and picking up food
and departing. They are not there long, but there are cars there
aII over the place. It is not too bad when the weather is good and
you can see where the lines are, but in the winter time and there
is any snow cover or anything else, boy it is all over the place.
Have we had any indication from the owner that he had taken any
steps to correct the situation?
Mr. Taormina: Not in connection with this petition. We have not heard from the
owner of the plaza. We have had many conversations with him
in the past about how to improve the parking at this plaza. Most
of that dealt with reconfiguration of the spaces in the main lot.
Not so much here. I will point out what you just described. The
unit that would be leased for the party store is roughly here if you
can see where the mouse is moving. The way that the
parking... this drive to the west is obvious and allows two-way
traffic because it does serve as a main ingress and egress point
to the shopping center from Six Mile Road. The easterly
driveway, while it is wide enough to function as two-way traffic,
really works against that design. I think what you indicated is that
people pull in here and immediately are going against the grain
of the parking. What this does not show is that there are similar
angled spaces along the building here. It is really designed to
accommodate one-way traffic flow back out to Six Mile here.
Ideally, this driveway would serve as a egress point only for the
plaza and not allow for ingress. That is something that I doubt
the owner of Bai-Lynn has any control over. It is something that
the owner of the mall would have to address as part of this petition
or any future petition.
Mr. Ventura: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: The petitioner is here this evening. Mr. Konja is the applicant for
this petition. You are free to unmute yourself and introduce
yourself.
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Andy Konja, 6365 Bram Ford Drive, West Bloomfield, MI, I would like to re -open
my store at that new location. I have 40 years of experience in
that field. I have done this for a long time and have built a
relationship with my customers. They have become like family.
We know everything about each other. It is a family business,
so it is a small operation. I treat customers like I want to be
treated. When they come in 1 give them a fair honest service.
This is what I do. I have been doing it for a long time.
Hopefully, you guys approve my new location.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Konja. Do we have any questions for our
petitioner?
Ms. Smiley: Why did you pick this location?
Mr. Konja: Why this location? Less competition to be honest with you. The
last 16 years I was on the corner of Merriman and north of
Schoolcraft. We did well there but due to contamination from
the gas station, it wasn't healthy for me or my customers to be
there any longer. They even had readers for the past two years
come in quarterly and take reads and keep track of things
because contamination kept spreading more and more. So,
when we were approached to buy the building and I could not
do anything else with it. I could not sell it to anyone else but
them so we put the license in escrow and started scouting the
areas that could make the best move for myself to run a new
business. I found the Six and Farmington area. There were not
any stores right there. The nearest store is a mile like you said.
I thought this is a better opportunity to open a small shop.
Everyone in the neighborhood knows me. I keep short hours
and I close on Sundays. I am a family man. Money isn't
everything. I like to have my own business. I have been self
employed all my life. I don't know how to do anything else.
What else can I tell you?
Ms. Smiley: That was good. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Smiley. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Long: I wanted to talk about the
hours.
That did
seem like short hours.
Is that the hours you kept
at your
previous
location?
Mr. Konja: Pretty much. 10 to 9 everyday and close on Sundays. Now I
am going to scale it back another hour. I am going to start
opening at 11 to 9. 1 work by myself. I have my wife help me
part-time and my kids come and help me. I usually have one or
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two neighbor kids clean up and do the bottles and stock the
coolers for me. It seems to work for me. It's a good way to
make a living.
Mr. Long: an you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Long. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Taormina: I just want to go back to the question about violations. Looking
at the MLCC website, they posted three violations. One
occurring in 2009, another one occurring in 2010, and then a
third in 2015. All involving the sale to minors with certain
inspections and penalties. That is what the website is showing.
I just wanted to point that out.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Taormina. Mr. Konja, do you have a comment?
Mr. Konja: Yeah, I was going to say that they are usually decoys. We
know our everyday customers. These guys come in and they
look 30 but they are not. They ... some of them have fake ID
and... it is usually a decoy. A normal kid from the neighborhood
would never try because you know everybody. The one's that
are a stranger, you card them because you are suspicious
anyways. These guys that come in are sent by the state or the
city. Never a normal kid. The average kid in the neighborhood,
if he wanted alcohol, he would have to ask someone older, 21
or 22. They will buy him whatever he wants. We have learned
that over the years.
Mr. Wilshaw: We understand. Thank you. Anyone else on this commission
with any questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Bongero: Just one quick question. Are you currently operating any other
businesses or liquor stores?
Mr. Konja: No, sir.
Or.
Bongero: Thank you.
Or.
Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Bongero. Anyone else with questions? If not, we
will go to the audience. Is there anybody in the audience that
wishes to speak for or against this item? If so, you can use the
raise hand button to indicate that you would like to speak. The
folks that have joined us by telephone, you can dial "9 to riase
your hand. Is there anyone in our audience wishing to speak for
or against this petition? I don't see anyone raising their hand.
With that I will go back to our petitioner, Mr. Konja and we always
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like to give the petitioner the last word. Is there anything else you
would like to add?
Mr. Konja: I run a fair honest business and as far as decoys and ID's, I have
a new system now. I have a machine. You run everyone's
license through it as they make a purchase. It shows you their
age right away. The confusing part used to be the 18 and 21 in
the past. Now that it is all 21 it makes it all a lot easier to see one
year instead of thinking about two years and getting them mixed
up, flip flopped.
Mr. Wilshaw: Very good,
thank you, sir.
With that,
are there any other
questions or
concerns for this
petitioner
or otherwise a motion
would be in order.
An approving motion by Smiley, seconded by McCue, failed due to Zack of support.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Smiley, McCue, Bongero
NAYS: Ventura, Caramagno, Long, Wilshaw
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
On a motion by Ventura, seconded by Caramagno, and adopted, it was
#06-27-2020 RESOLVED, Petition 2020-05-02-03 submitted by Bai-Lynn
Market Inc. requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section
10.03(g) of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as
amended, to utilize a S.D.M. liquor license (sale of packaged beer
and wine) and a S.D.D. liquor license (sale of packaged spirits
over 21 % alcohol) in connection with a proposed party store (Bai-
Lynn Market) at 33286 Six Mile Road, located on the northeast
corner of Six Mile and Farmington Roads in the Southwest'Y4 of
Section 10, the Planning Commission does hereby recommend
to the City Council that Petition 2020-05-02-03 be denied for the
following reasons:
That the petitioner has failed to affirmatively show that the
proposed complies with all the general waiver use standards
and requirements as set forth in Section 19.06 of the Zoning
Ordinance #543.
2. That there is no demonstrated need for additional liquor
licenses in this part of the City.
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3. That the available parking for this part of Burton Hollow
Plaza is not adequate to support the anticipated amount of
traffic that a party store would generate.
4. That the petitioner has not sufficiently demonstrated that the
proposed use would be compatible to and in harmony with
the principle use of the subject property as well as other
uses in the surrounding area.
5. That the proposal is contrary to the goals and objectives of
the Zoning Ordinance which, among other things, are
intended to ensure suitability and appropriateness of uses.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Ventura, Caramagno, Long, Wilshaw
NAYS: McCue, Bongero, Smiley
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Wilshaw: The petitioner will have 10 days to appeal the decision in writing
to Council.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the
motion is
carried
and the
foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City
Council
with an
denying resolution.
ITEM #2 PETITION 2020-05-02-04 LIVONIA BUDGET STORAGE
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2020-
05-02-04 submitted by Livonia Budget Storage, L.L.C. requesting
waiver use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(x) of the City of
Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to develop and
operate a climate controlled, indoor self -storage facility at 29150
Seven Mile Road, located on the north side of Seven Mile Road
between Middlebelt Road and Parkville Avenue in the Southwest
% of Section 1.
Mr. Taormina: This request to develop and operate a climate controlled indoor
self -storage facility is at the former Toys R Us property on the
north side of Seven Mile Road just east of Middlebelt. This
property is about 4.7 acres in area and as you can see from the
zoning map, the zoning of the property, as well as surrounding
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the property to the west and the east is C-2 (General Business).
To the north is Perani's Hockey World zoned C-1. There are a
few residential properties bordering the site on the east side.
Climate controlled indoor self -storage facilities require waiver -use
approval under Section 11.03(x) of the Zoning Ordinance. The
development of this property as a toy store dates back to 1969.
The building is roughly 51,500 square feet in gross floor area.
The storage facility would occupy the entire building, which is
mostly one level. Because the structure has adequate ceiling
height, the plan is to add a second level. The new floor would
add about 30,000 square feet to the usable portion of the building,
bringing it to roughly 81,467 square feet. Adapting the building
to the new use is going to require extensive remodeling.
Altogether, there would be approximately 650 storage units of
various sizes on both the lower and upper levels. All units would
have access from the interior of the building. There would be no
exterior roll up doors as part of the plan. A small leasing and
sales office is shown near the main entrance at the southwest
corner of the building. Adjacent to the main entrance on the west
side of the building, the plans show an addition. Measuring about
1,800 square feet. What this will allow for is a drive through drop-
off bay. There are doors shown on both the north and south sides
that would allow vehicles to enter the bay in order to pick-up or
drop-off materials with access to the building and the elevator to
get to the second level. Vehicles could then exit the north side of
the addition. It is really for the convenience of the patrons of the
storage facility. The plans also indicate a possible future addition
located on the north side of the building. We have little to no
information on the expansion, so this is something that would
have to comeback in the future for your consideration. The plans
show substantial changes to the parking layout. This includes the
removal of a significant portion of the parking lot since the amount
of parking there today is not needed to support the use. You can
see the footprint of the building and the possible addition in the
back. All of this created greenspace. If you go to the aerial
photograph, you will see the same building footprint and literally
the entire site is currently paved. Quite a large section of the
asphalt would be removed allowing for greenspace, as well as a
storm water detention basin. There are 14 parking spaces shown
along the west side of the building with an additional 8 spaces
along the front of the building adjacent to Seven Mile Road.
Combined, there would be 22 parking spaces. The Zoning
Ordinance does not specify the minimum required parking, so this
is something that we would rely on the applicant to provide the
adequate amount of parking. They have other similar uses so we
would rely on their experience in these type of developments.to
make sure there is adequate parking. In our experience, these
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are very low traffic generators. Access beyond the front of the
building would be restricted. If you look closely at this plan, you
will see a red line. Which is a decorative fence along the front of
the property. There would a controlled gate at this location with
direct access to the drop-off bay or vehicles could by-pass that
and go to the main parking lot. Exiting the property, a similar
controlled gate would be located here with direct egress to Seven
Mile Road. Looking at the design, and I will point out to the
commissioners that we do have new information. When we
viewed this at the study meeting a couple weeks ago, there were
several questions regarding what was going to happen to the
truck well in the back. The note on the plans state that it would
be removed. There is a large non -conforming pylon sign and
there is a note on the plan indicating that it would be removed.
There would be a new ground sign, along with an illustration of
what that sign would look like. Also, we have more topographic
information related to the design on the storm water management
basin and a more detailed landscaping plan that was submitted.
Looking at the building itself... also new are these renderings
which give you a much better understanding of what the building
would look like. That feature in the front, that tower, is where the
sales and leasing office would be located. You can see the
glazing. Brick would be used along the front of the building and
then a lot of the block that currently exists along the west and
north sides would be painted to match the proposed brick face
that would go on the front of the building. There are other
features including additional windows being added to the front as
well as the accent line across the Seven Mile Road part of the
building. Going back to the landscape plan, additional trees are
shown here along the detention basin. More shrubs and flowers
shown along the front of the property, as well as additional trees.
They have provided additional information regarding
landscaping. The other requested information was what is going
to happen to the dumpster. Details on the dumpster, they have
provided a profiled view that it would be a masonry enclosed
dumpster on the property. It is located in the northwest corner of
the parking lot that would serve the main building. With that, Mr.
Chairman, I can read out the departmental correspondence. I will
note that while sitting here I did receive an email. I will start with
th at.
Mr. Wilshaw: That is fine.
Or.
Taormina: We received an email this evening from T. Nelpu, 19127
Parkville, Livonia, MI and it reads: "Dear City Planning, I am not
in favour of any climate controlled storage in and around my
property. The reasons. 1. They are not secured 2. Not sure
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what is getting stored at this facility 3. Reduces residents
property value 4. Increases traffic and noise. Please reconsider
before approving this petition." The first item of internal
correspondence is from the Engineering Division, dated May 22,
2020, which reads as follows: "in accordance with your request,
the Engineering Division has reviewed the above referenced
petition. We have no objections to the proposed project at this
time. The legal description submitted by the owner appears to be
correct, and should be used for the parcel should the request be
approved. The parcel is assigned the address of #29150 Seven
Mile Road. The proposed development is currently serviced by
public water main, sanitary and storm sewers. The submitted
drawing does not indicate any utility connections, so we do not
have any knowledge of impacts to the existing systems at this
time .It should be noted that should the project move forward the
proposed construction will be required to meet the Wayne County
Stormwater Ordinance, including detention requirements, and
permits may be needed from the Wayne County Department of
Public Services for any work within the Seven Mile Road right-of-
way. A full review of the proposed development will be completed
when plans are submitted for permitting. " The letter is signed by
David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer. The next letter is
from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated May 20, 2020,
which reads as follows: "This office has reviewed the site plan
submitted in connection with a request to develop and operate a
climate controlled, indoor self -storage facility on property located
at the above referenced address. We have no objections to this
proposal with the following stipulations: 1. Fire Department
access roads shall be designed and maintained to support the
imposed loads of fire apparatus and provide an adequate all-
weather driving surface. 2. Any curves or corner of streets shall
accommodate emergency vehicles with a turning radius of fifty-
three feet wall to wall and an inside turning radius of twenty-nine
feet six inches. 3. Fire lanes shall be provided for all buildings that
are set back more than 150 feet from a public road or exceed 30
feet in height and are set back over 50 feet from a public road. 4.
A fire access road shall be provided with not less than 20 feet of
unobstructed width and have a minimum of 13 feet 6 inches of
vertical clearance in accordance to 18.2.3.4.1.1 and 18.2.3.4.1.2
of NFPA 1, 2015. 5. Fire Department Access shall be maintained
in accordance with Chapter 18, Fire Department Access and
Water Supply, NFPA 1, 2015." The letter is signed by Greg
Thomas, Fire Marshal. The next letter is from the Division of
Police, dated June 12, 2020, which reads as follows: "1 have
reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. 1 have no
objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Scott
Sczepanski, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The next letter is from the
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Inspection Department, dated June 9, 2020, which reads as
follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above referenced Petition
has been reviewed. 1. The existing parking lot needs to be
repaired or replaced as necessary. 2. All parking spaces are
required to be 10' x 20' and double striped. This Department has
no further objections to this Petition." The letter is signed by
Jerome Hanna, Director of Inspection. The next letter is from the
Finance Department, dated May 22, 2020, which reads as
follows: "I have reviewed the addresses connected with the
above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Connie Kumpula, Chief
Accountant. The next letter is from the Treasurer's Department,
dated May 26, 2020, which reads as follows: "In accordance with
your request, the Treasurer's Office has reviewed the address
connected with the above noted petition. At this time, there are
no outstanding amounts receivable for taxes. Therefore, 1 have
no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Lynda
Scheel, Treasurer. That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director?
Mr. Bongero: Just one question. Mark, just to be clear. On the truck wells,
those are going to be taken out during phase I of the construction,
right? It says future, but those are coming out during the initial
renovation.
Mr. Taormina: I would expect that as part of the initial plan, but I am going to
allow the architect to address that. My guess is that is necessary
in order to accomplish what they want to with the design of the
building. We will let Rick address that.
Mr. Bongero: Thank you.
Jr
Wilshaw: Any other questions for our Planning staff?
Ms. Smiley: Do we have any idea how many big storage units we have in
Livonia?
Mr. Taormina: We have not done an inventory. There are several. The indoor
climate -controlled units are fewer than there are of the standard
non -climate -controlled facilities, which you see predominately in
our industrial corridor. There is one that is still under construction
on Schoolcraft at the old bowling alley site. That one and now
this one, and there is one other on Merriman Road that I can think
of. The majority of the others are not climate controlled.
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Ms. Smiley: The ones at Eight Mile and Grand River, that is not climate
controlled is it?
Mr. Taormina: I think that might be a combination. I think they may have a few
units that could be, but a large number of them are not.
Ms. Smiley: We have a few of the climate -controlled ones.
Mr. Taormina: Fewer,
Ms. Smiley: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Smiley. Any other questions for our Planning
staff? If not, Mr. Grysko, and his architect Rick are both here with
us. You are welcome to introduce yourselves along with your
name and address and any additional information you would like
to provide about your petition.
Brandon Grysko, Fausone Bohn, 41700 Six Mile Road, Northville, MI, my client,
Livonia Budget Storage is over at the old Toys R Us at 29150
Seven Mile Road. We thank the commissioners for having us
back. We thought the study session was good and productive. I
think as you can see from the conceptual plans that we have
seriously taken that feedback and tried to put together a good
concept for you guys. I am sitting here with Jerry Ruggirello.
Jerry Ruggirello, Livonia Budget Storage, 29150 Seven Mile Road, Livonia, MI, I
am here to answer any questions that I can address to the
commission.
Mr. Grysko: I do have a couple of points that I would like to make before we
continue on with this. The first being on the que from Mr.
Taormina and that he put this up in front of you is that I believe
this is a nice piece of architecture that you don't see everywhere
along Seven Mile Road, in particular when you compare it with
what is there right now. I think this is definitely something
desirable that the community should get behind and support. I
am particularly befuddled by the resident that feels this will
decrease property values, with the existing building with a sort of
beat up looking parking lot. If anything, I would be concerned
about that sitting vacant and decreasing property values. I also
took issue with the thought that perhaps this would not be a
secure facility, when in reality there is a point of entry. The units
themselves, you don't access them from the exterior. You just
access them from the interior and in addition to that we have
shown you a security fence along the outside perimeter and a
gate off the entrance off of Seven Mile Road. Along the east side
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there is a masonry wall. I believe this is going to be a secure
facility. As far as concerns go about increasing traffic and noise,
I don't particularly find merit with that. This, with a small number
of parking spaces, it is probably not something you are going to
see a heavy influx of traffic. Certainly not during any type of
overnight hours. Particularly because the Livonia Ordinance
limits the hours of operation here, so I don't see that being a
concern. Not when people are home with their families, at which
point it is getting to the time where the ordinance says you can't
be in operation anyways. With that, I would like Rick to jump on.
Rick D'Alessandro is here from Whiteman to describe some of
the additions and modifications to the conceptual plans.
Rick D'Alessandro, 1607 Willow Woods Lane, Lansing, MI, and to address the
question about truck dock, that would be removed as part of the
Phase I or the remodeling of the building. The greenspace would
be installed to replace the parking and the truck well. The
detention area follows the Vision 21 that had possible drive-thru
of the site and a water feature. The detention pond is where the
water feature would be, and you can see the greenspace and the
way the parking is arranged is a possibility of a drive-thru of the
site. The pylon sign was a ... there was a question if that was
coming down at the working session and as was mentioned. It is
coming down. The dimensions are shown per the Ordinance.
The new sign would comply with the size requirements as well as
the location on the property. As Brandon said, the red line that
Mark had mentioned is a control point. Maybe Jerry can speak
to hours of operation, but the controls the flow of traffic in and out
of the property. If anyone tries to come in after hours that does
not have access, they have an opportunity to get back out with
drive-thru where it says greenspace there. That is a drive-thru
with marking. Traffic control is a good feature here. As Brandon
had mentioned, the site is fenced and there are security features
around the building. There are cameras in the building and
around the building. The building is monitored for any activity
inside or outside the building. Again, Jerry may speak to that if
he wishes. It is going to be a very secure facility by the very
nature of it. They want their patrons to feel safe in the building
and their materials are safe. Thank you. Other things that came
up in the working session, the dumpster enclosure. Mark
mentioned that. We just had a wall section to show that it is
masonry to match the existing building. Right now, as proposed,
it is a painted structure. It is closer to the portion of the building
that is painted. It is remote to the sites because of the
landscaping as well. It is not really as visible from the Seven Mile
side or even the Middlebelt side. We feel that will be a
compliment to the site. The landscaping will definitely be a
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compliment to the site. Right now, the landscaping that is there
now is overgrown and is quite minimal. I think as Mark
mentioned, a lot more greenspace. It is going to go to about 50%
greenspace actually. Well exceeding the minimum requirements
that the city has. The landscaping will be a good enhancement
for neighborhood and an enhancement for the area, and certainly
for the facility. As far as the exterior of building, that was
graciously described. It is meant to be an improvement for the
building itself. The building right now is just a white painted
building with EIFS system on it. The brick on it is more in context
with the buildings in Livonia. The tower is meant to be, in
essence, a way finding measure, so people know where to enter
the building. It ques them where to come into the parking. The
parking will be marked and the entrance and exits will be marked
as you can see on this diagram. It is something you can see from
the road. It is not ambiguous where you are to come into the
building. I think those are the highlights. As was mentioned, the
drive-thru was to minimize some of the what might be seen as a
long-term traffic of some kind. If someone has a larger vehicle
and they are unloading it. The encouragement is they are going
into the drive-thru bay. Certainly, it would be more convenient to
off load your things in a climate -controlled environment and get
them into the building. The truck is under cover and then you
drive right back out. In terms of larger vehicles on the property,
the visuals are meant to be minimized with this addition. There
are control points and there are no roll up doors or roll up entry
doors other than passage doors around the building beyond the
control point of the drive-thru. If people come during operation
hours, they do have access to the building without going through
that, but it is limited. They wouldn't be bringing large items in and
out and having some level of cover. I think that covers the high
points that we went over in the working session. If there are other
questions, I would be happy to take them at this point.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. D'Alessandro, you have certainly covered the
architecture of this building thoroughly and I think you have done
a lot to address the issues that we brought to you attention
through the study process. I think you have a done a really nice
job and appreciate the updates. Is there anyone on the
commission that wishes to ask any questions of our petitioner?
As.
Smiley: I do have a question for them. You're not going to run any offices
out of here? There is no conference room or people are storing
medical supplies and then they have a conference room where
they go to do their work. They pick up their supplies and then go
to ... it isn't that kind of operation is it?
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Mr, Grysko: This is not a shared office type of situation. This is indoor self -
storage. People who choose to have storage will be able to
access their storage room, but there is not office space so to
speak. The office that is shown will be for ... for example, maybe
an employee of the Livonia Budget Storage to operate out of, but
not for the general public or patrons.
Ms. Smiley: I want to compliment you. It is...l really like what you have done
with the property. I appreciate anytime we can eliminate a bunch
of blacktop and put in greenspace. You have done some
beautiful work with the landscaping. My other question is how do
you know what people are storing? Is it safe and that it isn't
hazardous or explosive?
Mr. Grysko: This is a matter that will be addressed through contracts between
the parties. There will be a contract for both the protection of the
community and the liability protection of the business itself and
other patrons of the facility that are going to prohibit things that
are not desirable, such as hazardous materials and things of that
nature. In addition to that, I think regulations are going to play a
part in that as well. That is going to limit what can be done there.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Smiley. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Ventura: I don't really have a question for the petitioner. I would like to just
make everyone aware that this petitioner brought this project to a
focus meeting in the Mayor's office some month's ago and at the
beginning there was a good deal of EIFS and other materials on
the exterior of the building. At that time the Planning
Commissioners and Council folks and other City Departments
that attended the meeting made it clear that we would like to see
some different materials on the outside of the building. Looking
at the product that the petitioner brought to us tonight, it is
substantially improved and I want to compliment the petitioner
and the architect on finding solutions that really present a much
much upgraded property from the one that we saw. I think it is a
really excellent solution for what could be a very problematic site
in the city. I simply want to extend my compliments to the
architect, the petitioner, and to thank them for their
responsiveness to the input that they have been given by all the
folks that have had something to say about this. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Ventura.
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Mr. Bongero: A question
for
the
petitioner. I also agree that the
building is
great. On
the
east
side of the building, it looks like
it might be
four feet apart
from
the car wash and there is like a
fence that
closes up ....
there is
an alleyway and there is a utility
pole. Who
owns that?
Is
that
just an easement or ... someone
has a "No
Trespassing" sign on the fence. It says there is 24-hour
surveillance. Do you own that or the car wash?
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Grysko, do you have an answer for that.
Mr. Grysko: Mr. D'Alessandro, do you care to weigh in on that?
Mr. D'Alessandro: I don't have the survey in front of me, but if on the colored site
plan that Mark had up, the property line is indicated. I have seen
the sign that you are indicating, but for four feet. I don't have a
measurable drawing up right now to know. From the plan that I
am looking at, the building is offset about three feet from the
property line. I would have to investigate to give you an definitive
answer whether that is our property or whether that is the car
wash property. Again, I don't have a measured drawing up right
now or a survey, but it does appear to be about three feet from
the property line to face of the building. That may be the subject
parcel that we are talking about.
Mr. Bongero:
There
is literally a gate.
A section
of chain link that is
attached... it
abuts
each building and
there is a
No Trespassing"
sign on R.
Mr. D'Alessandro: Yeah, I have
seen that sign.
In reality it may be
a
little bit of
both properties
is my guess.
Again, I don't have
a
measured
drawing up. The car wash may be in a similar position where they
have a slight offset from their property line to their building. I
wouldn't expect it to be right on the property line. So, the two
combined parcels is what forms that four or five feet of space.
Again, we can get a definitive answer to you if that is...
Mr. Bongero: It's
not critical.
There is a utility pole like right in
the
middle
of the
two
buildings
with power lines coming through.
It is
kind of
odd.
Mr. D'Alessandro: That is probably on the property Tine. Without having a survey,
I would guess it is on the property line. Assuming that the three
or four feet on either side of the property to a building location.
The bottom line is I guess we wouldn't be disturbing that if that is
the question.
Mr. Bongero: Yeah.
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Mr. D'Alessandro: Unless that is something you desired, that it went
underground...
Mr. Bongero: No, no. I just wanted to know if you had any plans for it, because
there is a utility pole with power on it. It is literally two feet off the
building.
Mr. D'Alessandro: Yeah, there we go. You can see where the building lines are
and again, I would expect that it probably belongs to both parcels.
It probably is a utility easement because of the pole location is
my guess.
Mr. Bongero: I have never seen anything like that. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. D'Alessandro. Thank you, Mr. Bongero. Thank
you, Mr. Taormina. Do we have any other questions for our
petitioners from any of the commissioners? I don't see any from
the commissioners, is there anybody in the audience that wishes
to speak for or against this item? If you do, please click the raise
hand button on your Zoom. If you are dialed in by telephone,
please dial '9 to raise your hand so we can see that you would
like to speak. We have one person that would like to speak. We
will allow them to speak. Here we go. You will just need to
unmute yourself and introduce yourself with your name and
address for the record. This is LME. Unfortunately, we do not
hear your audio. LME is ... needs to unmute themselves so we
can hear them. We see you have unmuted. We are still unable
to hear you. Well, we will leave you there to work on your audio
issues and get yourself unmuted so we can hear you. Is there
anyone else wishing to speak on this item? I don't see anyone
else raising their hand. We will give LME one more chance to
speak.
Mr. Taormina: Mr. Chairman, if I may. I know that they are having technical
difficulties but if they don't succeed shortly they could also use
the chat function and maybe if they have a question or comment
that they would like to make they could convey that using the chat
function.
Mr. Wilshaw: That is a good point. At the bottom of the screen there is chat
button. You can click that and send a chat message to us. We
will read your comment and pass that along if it is a question or
comment. There is also the other opportunity of being able to
address the City Council if this moves forward to that venue as
well. There will be plenty of opportunity to speak, but if we have
a resident who would like to make a comment, they can do that
via the chat if they cannot speak. While we wait for that, if there
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anyone else wishing to speak on this item or anyone on the
commission that would like to address any other questions to our
petitioner? I see no other questions and no comments. We will
go to Mr. Grysko and Mr. Ruggirello or Mr. D'Alessandro. We like
to give you one last comment if there is anything you would like
to say before we move forward with this item?
Mr. Grysko: We just want to say that we appreciate the commissioner's
consideration on this project. We appreciate all the good
feedback we got during the study meeting. We appreciate
working with Mr. Taormina and the administration, and hopefully
this project will move forward and be a success for the area.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank
you, sir.
If
there are
no other questions or comments, a
motion
would be
in
order.
On a motion by Long, seconded by McCue, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-28-2020 RESOLVED, Petition 2020-05-02-04 submitted by Livonia
Budget Storage, L.L.C. requesting waiver use approval pursuant
to Section 11.03(x) of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543,
as amended, to develop and operate a climate controlled, indoor
self -storage facility at 29150 Seven Mile Road, located on the
north side of Seven Mile Road between Middlebelt Road and
Parkville Avenue in the Southwest'/4 of Section 1, the Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 2020-05-02-04 be approved for the following reasons:
1. That the Site Plan marked C200 prepared by Wightman,
dated June 16, 2020, as revised, is hereby approved and
shall be adhered to.
2. That the Landscape Plan marked L100 prepared by
Wightman, dated June 16, 2020, as revised, is hereby
approved and shall be adhered to.
3. That all disturbed lawn areas, including road rights -of -way,
shall be sodded in lieu of hydroseeding, except for the large
open green space north of the building. This area, which
includes the site's detention area and the area designated
as "Future Addition" on the site plan, can be hydroseeded,
but shall be watered and maintained to the satisfaction of
the city.
4. That underground sprinklers are to be provided for all
landscaped and sodded areas and all planted materials
shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Inspection
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Department and thereafter permanently maintained in a
healthy condition.
5. That the Exterior Building Elevation an marked A101
prepared by Wightman, dated June 10, 2020, as revised, is
hereby approved and shall be adhered to.
6. That all rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material, and color to other exterior
materials on the building.
7. That this site shall meet either the City of Livonia or the
Wayne County Storm Water Management Ordinance,
whichever applies, and shall secure any required permits,
including soil erosion and sedimentation control permits.
8. The use of the self -storage facility shall be limited to the
storage of personal and business items only, and no unit
designed or intended for storage purposes shall be used for
operating a business or recreational activity including, but
not limited to, repairs, manufacturing, assembly, personal
service, hobby, retail or office.
9. Outdoor storage of vehicles or equipment, including work
trailers and trucks, is strictly prohibited.
10. That there shall be no outdoor storage of disabled or
inoperative equipment and vehicles, scrap material, debris,
or other similar items.
11. There shall be no storage of flammable, explosive,
radioactiveI hazardous, toxic, or volatile substances within
the self -storage buildings or upon the premises.
12. No overnight occupancy is permitted anywhere on the site,
including the interior storage units.
13. That the hours of operation for the indoor climate controlled
self -storage facility shall be limited to 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
14. The entire building and property shall have a camera
security system in place and key code access.
15. That all light fixtures shall not exceed twenty feet (20') in
height and shall be aimed and shielded to minimize stray
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ligHI trespassing across property lines and glaring into
adjacent roadways.
16. That any facilities for the outdoor storage of refuse shall be
screened by means of an enclosure constructed of masonry
walls. The enclosure gates shall be of solid panel steel
construction or durable, long-lasting solid panel fiberglass.
The trash dumpster area shall always be maintained and
when not in use closed.
17. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition.
18. No window signs shall be allowed.
19. That no LED light band or exposed neon shall be permitted
on this site including, but not limited to, the building or
around the windows.
20. That unless approved by the proper local authority, any type
of exterior advertising, such as promotional flags, streamers
or sponsor vehicles designed to attract the attention of
passing motorists, shall be prohibited.
21. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and
22. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of one year only from the date of approval by City
Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this
approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said
period.
FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Taormina has his hand up.
Mr. Taormina: I am going to see if we can get LME to speak. He did send an
email and he asked the question, "Dear Livonia Planning, Sorry
my Zoom settings did not work and the chat feature was disable.
My question to the applicant is simply to ask for a description of
the green space. Thank you, Larry Elkus." I believe that is LME
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as shown here.
I will
try to unmute
him
again,
but I don't think
that it is going to
work.
His question
was
about
greenspace.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, so he is looking to find out what the nature of the
greenspace is? What is going to be there?
Mr. Taormina: I think that is accurate.
Mr. Wilshaw: That is a good question. Mr. Grysko, or any of your
representatives? Would you like to describe the greenspace for
this request?
Mr. Ruggirello: The site plan shows the areas delineated for the greenspace. I
am not sure if the question is ... the detention area itself will be ... a
lot of that will be dictated by Wayne County Storm Water Review.
We don't know how large or the dimensions of that pond base
until the review occurs. The remaining areas of greenspace are
along Seven Mile Road and will be planted with deciduous trees.
We showed some samples of the plantings. All the areas that are
in the parking lot islands will be sodded and irrigated. I think if the
question goes to the north of the building itself, I think that
probably an area that if we could seed that, hydroseed that, or ... I
don't know if that would be something if the Planning Commission
would show some consideration there, I don't think that is an
area ... that area ... you would probably need some golf course
quality sprinklers to irrigate something that large. It is really out
of sight. We would maintain it and we would commit to
maintaining it. We would mow it as necessary. That area is
about... it is quite a large area in there. I will be reserved for a
potential future addition. We understand that we would have to
come back before all of the governing bodies before anything was
done in there, but it is largely dedicated to open space.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay.
Mr. Ruggirello: Does that answer the question?
Mr. Wilshaw: It does, thank you. Our concern, and the concern of the resident
is when you have landscape areas such as the area in the back
of the building, we want to make sure it is in an attractive
condition. It is abutting and adjacent to residential neighborhoods
to the east. We don't want it to become a waste land of weeds
and something unattractive or something that would attract
rodents and things like that.
Mr. Ruggirello: That is totally understandable. Mr. Taormina?
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Mr. Taormina: I think he raises a good question. As the motion currently reads,
that area would require to be sodded and irrigated. Given the
size and the potential to be developed, and again that would
require a similar type of review like we are going through right
now, but maybe consideration should be given to allowing that
area to be seeded, and maintained appropriately. Right now, it is
just parking lot. I inspected the site today. The wall that exists
between the residential and the non- residential along the east
property line is in very good condition. The motion as it stands
right now would require this area to be sodded. To his point,
would the commission be willing to consider the option to seed
that area? It can be done in a wildflower condition or something
of that nature, to allow that area to go dormant for a period of time
until it is developed, or it could be mowed. One way or another.
Mr. Wilshaw: That would be the decision of the maker of the motion if they
would be willing to forego sodding for the rear area. Certainly, I
would think that the front area would still want to be sodded and
irrigated. Mr. Long, it is your choice.
Mr. Long: So willing.
Mr. Wilshaw: You are looking to allow for hydroseed or other similar application
in the rear of the unit but continue to have sod and irrigation in
the front.
Mr. Long: At the discretion of the Planning Department.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, sounds good. The supporter of that motion is okay with
that?
Ms. McCue: Agreed.
Mr. Wilshaw: Excellent. Wonderful. Are there any other questions or
comments on the motion? We will give LME one more chance to
unmute themselves and speak. I believe it is the same person,
but in the event that they are still here and joined to the meeting,
if they would like to speak, we will give him one chance. We see
they have unmuted themselves, but we still cannot hear them.
So, unfortunately, we cannot hear from this person, but I hope we
have addressed your question. We do appreciate you attending
the meeting tonight and sending the email through Mr. Taormina
with your question.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
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ITEM #3 PETITION 2020-05-08-03 SOAVE HOMES
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2020-
05-08-03 submitted by Soave Homes requesting approval of all
plans required by Sections 18.47 and 18.58 of the City of Livonia
Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, in connection with a
proposal to renovate the exterior fagade of the building located at
15195 Farmington Road, located on the west side of Farmington
Road between Lyndon Avenue and Five Mile Road in the
Northeast '% of Section 21.
Mr. Taormina: This is a request to renovate an existing office building located on
Farmington Road, just south of Five Mile. The zoning of the
property is C-2 (General Business). Abutting the site to the north
and to the west are similar zoned commercial properties.
Immediately to the south is the Livonia Board of Education
Administration offices. This building was built in 1947 and in the
early 1970's it was expanded and remodeled. It is a two-story
building containing roughly 9,000 square feet of floor space.
Currently, the interior is divided into several leasable office units,
most of which are currently unoccupied. The plans show that the
interior of the building would be completely gutted. The ceiling
height would be increased for improved functionality and over half
of the first floor would be converted into rentable retail suites,
totaling about 2,400 square feet. The balance of the first floor
and then remaining second floor would remain as office.
Because of the zoning, C-2, this property could be made available
for retail and in fact, the plans do show these retail suites. Each
space has a little over 1,000 square feet. When we look at the
parking of the site, for most general office uses, the required
parking is one space for every 200 feet of usable floor area. With
offices, this building would require 36 parking spaces, but with
portions of the first floor being converted to retail, the required
parking is computed a little differently and requires a little more
parking. As a result, the minimum parking when you factor in the
retail spaces would be 42 spaces. The site plan shows 29 spaces
which results in a deficiency of 13 spaces. As we discussed at
the study meeting, this site shares parking with the adjoining
properties and it is not anticipated that there would be any parking
problems. There is additional parking available to west of the
property, as well as to the north. You can see that the property
line crosses over a row of parking spaces that are share with the
New York Deli property. The petitioner has submitted an updated
rendering which shows the new color tones. As you can see,
mostly greys. Light and dark greys. A combination of materials
including hardy plank siding, cultured stone, and brick. It will be
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either thin brick or full faced brick. That is still to be determined.
But to just go over some of these materials... this is the south
elevation facing the school property. This is the east elevation
which faces Farmington Road. The lighter colored pattern on the
building would be the composite material including the Hardie
plank. The siding shown here, is also the same composite or
Hardie plank, but instead of panels, it is horizontal siding. You
can see the cultured stone located on the front of the building.
You have some sconces and some canopies that are shown
here. You will notice the metal features on top of the building,
adding to the aesthetics of the building. If you look closely at the
building, this is all brick. They identify it as thin brick veneer I
think, as was indicated at the meeting. Until they know whether
or not there is a brick ledge available, they are not sure whether
that would be a thin brick or full faced brick material. On the sides
of the building that are less visible on the north and west, the
block that is on the building currently would be repainted. If you
go back to this, you can see you have a lot of stucco or EIFS.
This metal clad system that is kind of suspended on the upper
level would be removed. It is quite a change when you look at
this building, what it is today to what it would become. This being
the same elevation as what I just illustrated on the photo. With
that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated May 22,
2020, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your request,
the Engineering Division has reviewed the above referenced
petition. We have no objections to the proposed project at this
time. The existing parcel is assigned the address of #15195
Farmington Road. The existing parcel is currently serviced by
public water main, sanitary sewer and storm sewer. The
information submitted does not show proposed alterations for the
utility services, so it does not appear that there will be any impacts
to the existing systems .it should be noted that should the
developer need to do any work within the Farmington Road right-
of-way, permits will need to be obtained from the Wayne County
Department of Public Services. " The letter is signed by David W.
Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer. The next letter is from the
Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated June 5, 2020, which reads
as follows: "This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in
connection with a request to renovate the exterior fagade of the
commercial building on property located at the above referenced
address. We have no objections to this proposal." The letter is
signed by Greg Thomas, Fire Marshal. The next letter is from the
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Division of Police, dated June 9, 2020, which reads as follows: "I
have reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. 1 have no
objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Scott
Sczepanski, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The next letter is from the
Inspection Department, dated June 9, 2020, which reads as
follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above referenced Petition
has been reviewed. 1. Both men and women restrooms are
required unless an occupant load of less than 15 persons. This
will be addressed at the time of plan review if this project moves
forward. This Department has no further objections to this
Petition.." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna, Director of
Inspection. The next letter is from the Finance Department, dated
May 22, 2020, which reads as follows: "I have reviewed the
address connected with the above noted petition. As there are no
outstanding amounts receivable (general or water and sewer), /
have no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by
Connie Kumpula, Chief Accountant. That is the extent of the
correspondence. The next letter is from the Treasurer's
Department, dated May 26, 2020, which reads as follows: "In
accordance with your request, the Treasurer's Office has
reviewed the name and addresses connected with the above
noted petition. There are no taxes due at this time, therefore 1
have no objections to the proposal. " The letter is signed by Lynda
Scheel, Treasurer.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? I don't hear
any. We do have the petitioner here this evening, Mr. Boskovich.
We have you on here twice. I am not sure which one is you. If
you could please raise your hand, I will get you joined. There you
are. We will let you unmute yourself. Welcome to the meeting.
Just start with your name and address. We are going to have one
of these nights where there is no audio. We are not hearing you
Mr. Boskovich. I see you muting and unmuting, but... not
speaking. You may want to dial into the meeting via telephone.
At least get the audio working that way. Just as a suggestion. Is
there anyone else representing the petitioner tonight that would
like to speak? If so, raise your hand. If you are attending by
phone, dial `9. 1 think it is only the petitioner left at this point.
While he is working on getting his audio issues sorted out, are
there any questions of the commission for Mr. Taormina
regarding the petition? Everyone is silent today.
Mr. Caramagno: I just had a question for Mark. I know you mentioned the brick
and you feel that the brick application is good being that close to
the road and that close to the ground. You feel that is sufficient
and not in need of any reinforced stone or anything?
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Mr. Taormina: I wish Mr. Boskovich was available so we could defer this
question to him. The think brick applications that we are seeing
today are much more substantive, if you will, than what we have
seen in the past. In fact, we have successfully used the think
brick and cultured stone on many commercial properties. I am
not worried one way or the other. While we don't have the details
on what that think brick would look like, I will point out that the
owner of this building makes a living partially as a mason. I don't
have any doubt in my mind that it would be done right. I think you
have seen many applications that they have done throughout the
community. I am confident that it will appear very nice.
Mr. Caramagno: Thank you.
Mr. Bongero: Mr. Boskovich is
texting me.
He is
having a lot of problems. He
said they are more than likely
going
to use full brick. If the footing
is there, they are
going to full
brick
the building.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay.
Mr. Bongero: He can't get on for whatever reason.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, thank you for those relayed comments. Any other
comments from anyone else on the commission? Is there
anybody in the audience that wishes to speak for or against this
item?
Mr. Taormina: Mr. Boskovich, if you hear me, you can navigate to the audio part
at the bottom of your screen and if you click on that, it should give
you an option of changing your microphone option. Just a
suggestion.
Mr. Wilshaw: Jon, as Mr. Taormina just mentioned, down in the lower portion
of your Zoom control by the mute button is the option to change
your audio settings. You can change your microphone to a
different source. Got you muting and unmuting, but no audio.
Well commission, in the absence of our petitioner being able to
speak with us, I will leave it with the commission to decide what
they would like to do in terms of proceeding on this petition
because we would certainly like to give some type of resolution if
we can to this petition.
Mr. Ventura: I was not present for the study session on this property. Based
on my review of the materials in our packets for tonight and the
fact that this building appears to be undergoing a complete
renovation... is that Mr. Bosko?
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Mr. Boskovich, 37771 West Seven Mile Road, Livonia, MI, from what I can
catch... bad feedback on my end.
Mr. Wilshaw: I think he just hung himself up. It is going to be one of those night.
Mr. Ventura: If I may continue.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, Mr. Ventura.
Mr. Ventura: I was just going to say that I would be in favor of moving forward
with this petition. I think it is a tremendous improvement on this
property. That is a totally obsolete building and it appears that he
is going to do substantial renovations and modernizing. It will be
a good addition to the Civic Center area and community.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, I agree. It is a very attractive building from what I have seen.
We will see if Mr. Boskovich can get himself back on the line. Not
looking too good. So, again I will go back to the commission. If
we would like to move forward we can, otherwise we are going to
run out of meeting pretty quickly.
On a motion by Long, seconded by Ventura, and unanimously adopted, it was
#06-29-2020 RESOLVED, Petition 2020-05-08-03 submitted by Soave Homes
requesting approval of all plans required by Sections 18.47 and
18.58 of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended,
in connection with a proposal to renovate the exterior fagade of
the building located at 15195 Farmington Road, located on the
west side of Farmington Road between Lyndon Avenue and Five
Mile Road in the Northeast '/ of Section 21, the Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 2020-05-08-03 be approved for the following reasons:
That the Site Plan identified as Sheet No. SD.101 prepared
by G.A.V. Associates, Inc. as received by the Planning
Commission on May 20, 2020, is hereby approved, and shall
be adhered to.
2. Barrier free parking shall be provided at the direction of the
Inspection Department.
3. That any plans for the outdoor storage of refuse shall first be
approved by the Planning and Inspection Departments, and
shall be screened by means of an enclosure constructed of
masonry walls with solid panel steel or fiberglass gates
which shall be properly maintained and, when not in use,
kept closed.
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4. That the Exterior Elevations Plans identified as Sheet No.
A.201 and Sheet No. A.202 prepared by G.A.V. Associates,
Inc. as received by the Planning Commission on May 20,
2020, are hereby approved, and shall be adhered to.
5. That all rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material and color to other exterior
materials on the building.
6. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for
review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals.
7. That no LED light band or exposed neon shall be permitted
on this site including, but not limited to, the building or
around the windows.
8. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and
9. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning
Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a
period of one year from the date of approval by City Council,
and unless a building permit is obtained, this approval shall
be null and void at the expiration of said period.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,1551h Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,155'h Public Hearings and Regular Meeting
held on April 14, 2020.
On a motion by Long, seconded by McCue , and unanimously adopted, it was
#06=30-2020 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,15511 Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on April 14,
2020, are hereby approved.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Long, McCue, Smiley, Ventura, Caramagno,
Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
ITEM #5 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 412th Special Regular Meeting
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 412th Special Meeting held on June 9, 2020.
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by Long , and unanimously adopted, it was
t06-31-2020 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of the 412th Special Meeting held by
the Planning Commission on June 9, 2020, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Long, McCue, Bongero, Smiley, Caramagno,
Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Ventura
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adoptedI
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,156ih Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on June 23, 2020, was adjourned a# 8:54 p.m.
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