HomeMy WebLinkAboutPublic Hearing 9-28-2020 - LANG - Caregiver Grow Facility
CITY OF LIVONIA
PUBLIC HEARING
Minutes of Meeting Held on Monday, September 28, 2020
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A Public Hearing of the Council of the City of Livonia was held virtually via ZOOM on Monday
September 28, 2020.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Kathleen McIntyre, President
Vice President Scott Bahr
Jim Jolly
Brandon McCullough
Laura M. Toy
Cathy K. White
MEMBERS ABSENT: Rob Donovic
OTHERS PRESENT: Mark Taormina, Director of Economic Development
Todd Zilincik, City Engineer
Paul Bernier, City Attorney
Sara Kasprowicz, Recording Secretary
The Public Hearing was called to order at 7:35 p.m. with President Kathleen McIntyre
presiding. This item is regarding Petition 2020-07-06-01 submitted by the City Planning
Commission, pursuant to Council Resolution 170-20 and Section 23.01(a) of the Livonia Zoning
Ordinance No. 543, as amended, proposing to amend Sections 2.10 of Article II, 4.12 of Article
IV, 5.15 of Article V, and 16.02 of Article XVI, to define “caregiver grow facility” and regulate the
zoning districts where medical marijuana facilities can operate.
This item will move to the Regular Meeting of October 19, 2020.
The Public Hearing is now open. There were 19 people in the audience.
Bahr: We will start with City Attorney, Paul Bernier, would want to give us an
overview, or Mark? Let’s start with Mark, go ahead Mark.
Taormina: Maybe I could provide, I know Paul has some advice as part of this item, but
why don’t I provide the background on this?
Bahr: Sure.
Taormina: This is a request to amend the referenced Articles of the Zoning Ordinance,
and these amendments will establish regulations for medical marijuana
caregiver grow operations. Currently, there are no local rules that regulate or
govern where these facilities can operate. In Livonia, like most communities,
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rely solely on State law and more specifically, the Michigan Medical Marijuana
Act or the MMMA of 2008. As a result, primary caregivers have been allowed
to establish grow operations inside homes within the City’s single-family
residential zoning districts. Under the authority of MMMA, depending on the
number of patients being used for, or being cared for by a registered primary
caregiver, the legal grow limit can be as high as 72 plants. This includes 12
plants per patient, with up to 5 patients per caregiver, plus the caregiver is
allowed an additional 12 plants for him or herself. In a recent ruling however,
the Supreme Court, Michigan Supreme Court, that is, confirmed that
municipalities do have the authority to regulate caregiver and patient plant
cultivation under the MMMA. The Courts decision now means that Livonia can
establish zoning regulations on medical marijuana cultivation by licensed
caregivers and patients, provided that these rules do not prohibit or penalize
the cultivation of medical marijuana or impose regulations that are reasonable
or in contradiction to MMMA standards. I’ll let Paul tell you what’s considered
reasonable or unreasonable, but we do consider these rules to be very
reasonable. So, what the language amendments do, are number 1, provide a
definition for a caregiver grow facility and that falls under section 2.10,
secondly, they prohibit caregiver grow facilities in all R-1 through R-5 zoning
districts, that’s under Section 4.12, Section 5.15, can similarly prohibit
caregiver grow facilities in all R-U-F zoning districts and then the last
component to these amendments that are before you, is Section 16.02, would
be amended to allow caregiver grow facilities as a permitted use in all M-1,
Light Manufacturing districts. So, Livonia currently has multiple caregiver grow
facilities located in industrial properties, zoned either M-1 or M-2 in buildings
where more than one caregiver operates, each caregiver grow facility
containing up to 72 plants must be in a locked unit with separate means of
access, separate address, as well as separate metering. To date, and these
are according to records and I’ll share a screen briefly with you, to date,
according to records that are maintained by the Inspection Department, the
City has approved or is in the process of reviewing, a total of 61 caregiver
units, located within 23 industrial buildings throughout the community. While
these permits go back to 2015, the vast majority have been established in the
past year, caused mainly by the State allowing caregiver sourced cannabis to
feed the supply that is needed for the adult use retailers in the medical
dispensaries. However, in April, the State’s marijuana regulatory agency
abruptly ended the supply chain of caregiver grown weed to the recreational
market and sales to the medical market are scheduled to terminate on October
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1 which is this Thursday. Notwithstanding this, the City continues to see a
rash in caregiver grow building applications, which to me, is somewhat
baffling. We do not track caregiver grow operations in residential dwellings,
the larger the grow operation inside a home, as you will imagine, the greater
the chance of it being a nuisance and potentially dangerous, since the City is
usually not called for inspections involving changes to the mechanical systems
that are needed to keep these things in operation. Paul can tell you some of
the horror stories we’ve had on this. The caregiver grow operations in
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existence at the time, this, or any other zoning ordinances passed, prohibiting
the use in residential districts will be grandfathered and considered a valid
non-conforming use and hence, allowed to continue. The Planning
Commission is recommending approval of these language amendments, but
with additional conditions related to industrial caregiver grow facilities intended
for reducing the potential for conflicts and nuisances. First, they’re
recommended a minimum separation between caregivers and certain land
uses, included schools, daycare, nurseries, parks, residential and athletic
training facilities. Again, these are requested changes involving only industrial
operations. Secondly, they want to limit caregiver operations in buildings
where there are no uses where caregiver grow business. So, those are the
two changes to the language that’s drafted by the Law Department that the
Planning Commission is recommending. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can
answer any questions, Paul may want to add to this presentation.
Bernier: If I might, this came up, we had a rash of problems with the caregivers in the
residential neighborhoods. Let me start by saying, nobody’s trying to stop the
legitimate use of marijuana, the legitimate growing for medical marijuana or
the recreational. Its not the intention here at all. The intention is, we have, as
I remember, three different houses that are basically burned to the ground,
putting neighbors at risk and putting our firefighters at risk in these institutions.
There are two different kids of medical marijuana growers that we deal with.
The ones that Mark was talking about in the industrial zone that are doing
things the right way. They are doing things following the law, pulling the proper
permits, making sure the electrical is up to code. Making sure the ventilation
is up to code and making sure things are done properly. We’ve received in the
Inspection Department, many plants and they list right on there, Medical
Marijuana and we know what they are and nobody is trying to stop them, but
we’re making sure that we don’t have a fire safety hazard, we’re making sure
that its not a nuisance. Unfortunately, when Medical Marijuana Act was
passed, we were told in a decision, Ter Beek versus Wyoming, by the
Supreme Court, that we couldn’t do anything to zone where the medical
marijuana was. As a result, we had people growing 72 plants in a R-1 zone
and it’s created a nuisance for everybody involved in that. The smell is terrible
and it’s just a fire hazard. Recently, we got a gift from the Supreme Court in
the derider opinion, where they said, “No, you can zone where the medical
marijuana grow operations are, but you can’t zone them out of existence.” So,
we took a look at it and we talked to the Planning Commission, we talked to
the Fire Department and the Police Department, and the thought process was
that probably the safest place for our residents is in the manufacturing zones,
the M-1 and M-2 zones. So, we took a look at that and we wanted to get this
to Council as quickly as possible, because quite frankly, we want to get the 72
plant grow operation out of the residential neighborhoods. The plan would call
for basically a ban in the residential neighborhoods, R-1 through R-8 and R-
U-F would be banned from those neighborhoods and be placed in the M-1 and
M-2 zoning. As Council is also aware, anything that’s not allowed in a zoning
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district is precluded. So, in other words, the grow operations from the medical
marijuana would be restricted to the M-1 and M-2 zoning. That way, we could
know where they are, to take proper safety precautions on it, both from a
Police and Fire safety precaution and we would eliminate the nuisance and
danger to both the Fire Department, the Police Department and as importantly
or more importantly to our citizens who are stuck living next door to these
places. I think it’s got to be pointed out that this doesn’t stop somebody under
the Recreational Marijuana Act from growing 12 plants at their house. This
does not do that. So, if somebody under the adult-use recreation wants to grow
12 plants at their house, this will not affect them. They have the right to do that
under then Recreational. The entire thing that this is trying to do it to get the
grow of 72 plants out of the residential neighborhood. If you’ve ever been to
one of these houses where they have a grow operation going with 72 plants,
its shocking. We’ve had houses that I’ve been in where the entire house has
been taken over as a grow operation. In most of them, the electrical is not up
to it and the exhaust is not up to it. They are dumping the waste into the sewer
system and we have no idea what’s going to happen in the future. So, the
thought was, let’s get it out of the residents, let’s get it somewhere that we can
deal with it from a safety perspective and that would be the M-1 and M-2.
Bahr: Thank you, Paul, for sharing that, any questions, or comments from Council?
Councilwoman Toy, you are muted so make sure you unmute.
Toy: Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don’t know who this should go to, but as you look at
this then, Paul, I guess I’ll ask you. As you said, this doesn’t preclude anybody
that is a caregiver, the 12 plants in their home or outside, is that correct?
Bernier: The caregiver grow operation of medical marijuana would be out of the
residential neighborhoods. That wouldn’t stop a person under the Recreational
Marijuana from having 12 plants being grown, no. It would stop the 72-plant
grower.
Toy: So that would be in the house or outside, correct, outside as well?
Bernier: Under the Recreational Marijuana Act, you can grow it outside if you take
certain precautions, I hesitate to get into legal implications on that but if you
comply with the Recreational Marijuana Act, if you comply and do it legally,
this will have absolutely no affect on you, if you are doing the recreational
marijuana. This is designed only with one thing in mind. The medical marijuana
grow operation because as Council knows, the City has opted out of those
things that we can opt out of, the only thing we cannot opt out on is the medical
marijuana, but now we can at least zone it into a proper zoning area.
Toy: I know that other areas across the state had some of these facilities listed them
as green zones, we’re not particularly asking for green zones for these grow
houses in the M-1 or M-2s?
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Bernier: No, we’re not asking for a particular zone. We just want to restrict the same
one, there are conditions that as Mark was saying that the Planning
Commission wanted to add to it as to distances from certain facilities, which
makes a lot of sense, while most of the M-1 zoning is not close to residential,
there are some that are. You couldn’t be within, I believe, is 300 feet from the
grow operation to the residential neighborhood, which is a small limitation in
the M-1 and there’s a few other limitations in there. The other limitation that
the Planning Commission thought was important, was that it be in a single-use
building. Mark and I talked about this and Mike Fisher and I talked about this
at great length today, that does not mean you can only have one grow
operation in a building, that means you can have a warehouse with multiple
grow operation, providing they follow the law and they have the individual lots
and everything else but that can be the only thing in there, in other words,
somebody couldn’t move into a building that is making auto parts and take
over half of the building and then make a grow operation in the other half of it.
A lot of the people don’t want to deal with the smell that’s involved and the
problems that are created maybe because of it. So, it would be a single-use
facility.
Toy: If I may, just lastly, that is only a grow facility in those places, that was not at
a dispensary, any kind of cafeteria kind of thing or anything else, correct?
Bernier: The City of Livonia has opted out of everything that we are allowed to opt out
of, the only thing that this would provide is to change the rules as it pertains to
the medical marijuana grow operation and put it into the M-1 and M-2 zoning,
that is all it would do.
Toy: Thank you very much and thank you, Mr. Chair.
Bahr: You’re welcome, Councilman McCullough, go ahead.
McCullough: Thank you, Mr. Chair. From the Chair to Paul, I think this would be good for
you, so, can we do any limitations? If its an M-1, can we enact any façade
limitations? I know with M-1 there is a façade and signage and that kind of
stuff is probably already limited, but is there anything, you know, so you have
limitations on that kind of visual in these areas.
Bernier: Again, this is, Councilmember McCullough, these are grow operations, not
dispensaries, as a general rule, nobody that’s in the grow business is gonna
want the public to know they are in the grow business to begin with, so the
chance are, they’re going to have a sign that says “Weed Are Us” is pretty
slim, because its only a grow operation. The zoning, the façade and everything
would be whatever is normally our zoning laws, would apply.
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McCullough: Especially at M-1. If something does pop up, “Weeds Are Us” I’m going to
come in and talk to you about that.
Bahr: Ok, any other questions from the Council? Seeing none at this point, we’ll go
to the audience. Audience, again, if you would like to speak, you can hit the
raise hand button on ZOOM or if you’re on the phone, you can hit *9. We’ll
keep our eye out for you here. When you do speak, we ask that you state your
name and address for the record before speaking. So, it is open to anyone
that would like to speak at this time. I’ll just repeat one more time, if anyone
from the audience would like to speak, you may do so at this time. We do have
one hand up from Donny Lucaj, give us a moment here, I think you are
unmuted, Donny.
Lucaj: Yes, Donny Lucaj, 36950 Fox Glen. I just had a question, a quick question
about these proposed ordinances or rules. Are those posted currently on your
website, on the City website, where would I be able to obtain a copy of those
rules?
Bahr: Mark or Paul, do you know if, for sure?
Taormina: Yeah, so the actual language is not posted on the website, but we can certainly
make that available to you or any other interested party. All you would need
to do, Mr. Lucaj, is send an email to planning@ci.livonia.mi.us and request the
draft language and we’ll be happy to send that out to you.
Bahr: Mark, does planning@livonia.org work too for an email address or not?
Taormina: I think, or is it Livonia.org or gov, I’m going to ask Casey.
O’Neil: .gov
Bahr: Ok, so just make it a little easier on you and you can send it to
planning@livonia.gov, we’re all still getting used to that improvement. Mr.
Lucaj, do you have any other questions or comments?
Lucaj: That was my only question, thank you, I appreciate it.
Bahr: Thank you, anyone else from the audience? I’ll give it about ten more seconds.
Ok, I don’t see anyone else from the audience wishing to speak, so for this
one, this also is an ordinance change, so that would be a first reading situation,
correct? So, this item will be on our agenda for the Regular meeting scheduled
for October 19, 2020. As we talked about at the last item, this is also one that
would require a first and a second reading so the process from here would be
at that meeting, if someone were to offer a first reading, then it would move
forward and two weeks later, it would be on a Council agenda again, at that
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point, it would be an opportunity for a second reading, at that point, we would
take a vote.
Taormina: Mr. Chairman, if I may?
Bahr: Yes, Mark.
Taormina: Can we get clarification, does the resolution being offered include the
language recommended by the Planning Commission? I’m guessing that. We
have not provided you with specific language.
Bahr: Actually, now that you mention it Mark, I think, and sorry, I’m double-checking
my notes here, I think the proper next step is to refer this back to the Planning
Commission, correct? Not to put on the agenda for and ordinance change? It
would go back to you, either with a referral to Law Department to draft the
ordinance, or as you suggested, we could go straight to first reading at the
next available Regular meeting, but we just want to make sure that we know,
we have direction to include that language recommended by the Planning
Commission.
Bernier: It was the recommendation by the Law Department, quite frankly, after we sat
down and talked with Mark and Mike Fisher and myself. From the Law
Department perspective, we actually like the additions that the Planning
Commission came up with in addition to ours, which was talking about the
distances from some different buildings and making it a single-use building.
Bahr: So, we still need to ask for language to be prepared or I thought that had been
prepared, I thought that’s what we had in our packets to review tonight? Is the
next step, Paul, to ask for language to be prepared, or is the next step to put
this on for a first reading?
Bernier: We can put it on for a first reading as long as we know which route the Council
probably wants to go on. If Council gave us a direction, it seemed to be that
they are going to accept the wording, the additional wording of the Planning
Commission, then we could put it on for a first reading and if Council likes it,
they can do the first reading if there was a motion for it at that time.
Bahr: Ok, Council, any thoughts on that direction? Go ahead, Kathleen.
McIntyre: I support that direction. Cathy White has her hand up too.
Bahr: Oh, I’m sorry, go ahead, Cathy.
White: Thank you. I know Paul mentioned there was some urgency on this so that we
don’t get anymore in residential districts, so I’m wondering if we the
recommendation is also to invoke the emergency clause and give it a second
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reading at the same meeting. Is there that level of urgency, I guess that
question would be to the City Attorney.
Bernier: The problem we have, as Ms. White knows, is that we want to restrict non-
conforming use. We want to restrict people from saying, “I was here before the
ordinance was passed.” Obviously, when the decision came out, we rushed to
get this in front of Council, of course, COVID slowed everything down, which
put us to the end of September now. It would be the recommendation of the
Law Department that we use the wordings in the additional conditions that the
Planning Commission put in and do an emergency reading so we don’t have
any emergency cause, but of course, that’s up to Council, so we don’t get
anymore grow operations within the residential zone in the meantime.
White: I would definitely support that because of the safety hazards we’ve had in
residential districts.
Bernier: The way it would work, obviously, is if we put in the wording, as I believe, if I
could read the Council correctly the way it would go, we would have the
wording with the additional requirements from the Planning Commission, we
would submit that language as the new ordinance and we would also as that
it be done on the emergency provision. So Council, not to tell Council how to
do it, but we would do a first reading, there would be a vote to invoke the
emergency clause, and if that passed, then we would have a second reading
and it would become the ordinance upon publication.
Bahr: Cathy, are you all set?
White: I’m all set, thank you.
Bahr: All right, President McIntyre, go ahead, you’re muted, you need to unmute.
McIntyre: I’d be very supportive of that approach and I’d like to thank our colleague
Councilmember White for raising that issue, thank you.
Bahr: So what I’m hearing then, is that we move forward with the recommended
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language and we put that on the agenda for the October 19 meeting for
consideration for first reading at that time and possibly second reading for
emergency clause. So, with that, I think we can bring the public hearing to a
close.
As there were no further questions or comments, the Public Hearing was declared
closed at 8:00 p.m.