HomeMy WebLinkAbout1,193 - November 15, 2022 signedMINUTES OF THE 1,193rd PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, November 15, 2022, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,1931d Public Hearing and Regular Meetings in the Livonia City
Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. Ian Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Members present: Glen Long, Carol Smiley, Sam Caramagno, Ian Wilshaw
Members absent: Wafa Dinaro, David Bongero, Peter Ventura
Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Stephanie Reece, Program Supervisor,
were also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1 PETITION 2022-10-02-20 Clean Express
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2022-
10-02-20 submitted by The Mannik & Smith Group, Inc.
requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 6.07 of the
Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance, as amended, in connection
with a proposal to redevelop the site, including demolishing the
existing commercial building and constructing a new automated
auto wash facility (Clean Express), at 20330 & 20340 Farmington
Road, located on the east side of Farmington Road between
Norfolk Avenue and Eight Mile Road in the Northwest 'Y4 of
Section 3.
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Mr. Taormina: Thank you Mr. Chair. This is a request to construct a new
automated carwash facility. The site is on the east side of
Farmington Road just south of Eight Mile Road. The location is
the former NAPA auto parts store. Current zoning is C-2 (General
Business). The site is made up of two parcels with 166 feet of
frontage on Farmington Road and a combined area of
developable land of about one (1) acre. There's an existing 5,400
square foot building on the property located near the middle of
the site that would be removed. Access, as you can see from the
aerial photograph, is currently provided by two driveways on
Farmington Road. One is on the north side of the site and then
the other on the south side. Approval was granted in 1979 for the
existing auto parts store. NAPA has moved to a new location and
the building is now vacant. To the north are commercial
businesses that front along Farmington Road, zoned C-2
(General Business). Immediately to the south is the Bad Brad's
Barbecue, former G-Subu's Leather Bottle restaurant, also zoned
C-2. To the east is a parking lot for the business to the north,
zoned C-2 and P (Parking), as well as an undeveloped area,
zoned C-2 and N-2 (One Family Residential). Extending further
east are single family homes that are part of the same N-2 zoning
district. And to the west, across Farmington Road, are
commercial properties zoned C-1. The proposed site plan shows
a new carwash building that would measure 32 feet by 123 feet
in overall dimensions, totaling 3,677 square feet. The building, as
you can see from the site plan, is positioned along the north side
of the property. The existing two drive approaches on Farmington
Road would remain. The south approach would accommodate
two-way traffic for both ingress and egress to the site, whereas
the north driveway would be one-way only for vehicles exiting the
carwash facility. Cars would queue in two lanes, which are
located along the south side of the property. We estimate that
each lane could accommodate stacking for approximately nine
cars. At the east end there would be two pay kiosks, one for each
service lane, with automated gates that would control vehicle
access to the carwash. The kiosks would have digital menu
boards and self -serve pay devices that would be covered by
overhead, non -illuminated structural canopies. Just ahead of the
entrance to the facility, the two lanes would taper to form a single
lane and a 12-foot-wide escape lane would be available before
entering the building. Parking with vacuum equipment would be
available in the area between the building and the service lanes.
As vehicles exit the facility at the west end, there would be an
option of either going straight and exiting the site by turning onto
Farmington Road, or vehicles could turn left along a short drive
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aisle that loops back providing access to either the 21-car parking
lot with vacuum service or continue south to the drive aisle where
the two-way approach and the service lanes are located. The
building would be setback 46 feet from the future right -a -way of
Farmington Road. From the east property line, the proposed
building is setback 88 feet. For the side yards, the ordinance
requires minimum building setbacks of 35 feet on one side and
eight (8) feet on the other. In this case, the south side of the
building would be set back 124 feet and the north side 11 feet.
Our determination is that the proposed building complies with all
yard regulations. Looking at the floor plan, you'll see that the north
half of the building would be occupied by the carwash bay, and
the south half would contain the mechanical systems, a
bathroom, and an office. The zoning ordinance requires a total of
20 parking spaces and the plan shows 21 spaces within the
parking lot on the south side of the building. As I mentioned
previously, each one of these parking spaces would have a self -
serve vacuum station that would consist of a built-in waste
receptacle, aluminum vacuum hose, as well as vacuum tools.
Looking at the design of the building, the exterior materials would
include a combination of masonry and Nichiha fiber cement
siding. I believe the petitioner has samples of the materials. The
exterior, as you can see, would be in three different colors. The
brown is the cement fiber siding, and the white and the gray
colors on the building would be the brick. Windows, as you can
see, would be installed on both sides of the building. The height
of the structure would be 22'-4" overall. There is a dumpster
shown in the southeast corner of the parking lot that would be
fully enclosed with 7'-4" walls on the sides and rear and an access
gate on the front. The walls would be constructed of the same
masonry that would be used in the construction of the building.
We do not have details on the stormwater management system.
It's presumed that it would be underground. In terms of
landscaping, the ordinance requires four (4) full size trees, two
(2) ornamental trees and twenty-six (26) shrubs along
Farmington Road. The plan shows four (4) full size trees, two (2)
ornamental trees and thirty-two (32) shrubs, and thus complies
with the frontage landscape requirements on Farmington Road.
Additionally, greenbelts are required along the sides and the rear
of the property. In this case, the greenbelts shown measure 17
feet in width along the south side of the property, 11 feet on the
north side, and between 11 and 25 feet along the rear. All three
of these areas would contain full size trees that would be planted
in rows. As requested, plants have been added to the north and
rear greenbelts, but not along the south side. In terms of site
lighting, the submitted photometric plan provides detailed
information, including the location and type of light sources and
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the illumination levels. The mounting height of the pole -mounted
lights would be 20 feet above finish grade which is the maximum
the ordinance allows. The lights on the building would be in the
form of wall packs mounted nine feet above the finish grade. The
proposed average illumination levels exceed the zoning
ordinance and should be reduced. Also, the lights should be
turned off or lowered at night after the business hours. In terms
of signage, the building would be allowed one (1) 32 square foot
wall sign on the front of the building and one (1) 30 square foot
ground sign. The plans show one (1) conforming sign on the front
of the building and two (2) additional signs on the south elevation.
The sign on the front measures 20 square feet. On the south side,
the signs measure 52 square feet and t 17-'/2 square feet and
would require approval of the Zoning Board of Appeals. The
monument sign appears to conform with the size requirements.
However, the location of the sign is not shown on the plan, and it
will require a minimum 10-foot setback from the future planned
right-of-way on Farmington road. There is a special requirement
under Section 6.07 of the ordinance that any proposed auto wash
establishment be at least 150 feet from any church, public or
parochial school or playground. There are no schools or
playgrounds or churches within 150 feet of the subject site. With
that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, please.
Mr. Taormina: The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated October 19,
2022, which reads as follows: it, accordance with your request,
the Engineering Division has reviewed the above referenced
petition. We have no objections to the proposed waiver use at this
time. The subject parcels are assigned the addresses of #20330
& 20340 Farmington Road. The legal description provided with
the drawings does not match the legal descriptions on file with
the Assessors office. Most notably, the southerly parcel does not
exclude the west 60 feet of the property for Farmington Road
right-of-way as the Assessor's description does. We would like to
request that should the project receive approval and proceed
forward, that the owner consolidate the parcels and provide a new
overall description for the resultant parcel. The existing parcel is
currently served by public water main, sanitary sewer, but there
is no information on proposed alterations to the services, so we
cannot comment on impacts to the existing systems at this time.
Should the service leads need to be revised, the owner will need
to submit drawings to this department to determine if permits will
be required. Most likely the water service will need to be
upgraded for the proposed use of the property, which would
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require disturbing the Farmington Road pavement to access the
existing main. We are unable to comment on storm sewer and
detention needs at this time, as we do not have detailed utility
information to determine if the site already has storm sewer in
place or not. The Engineers for the project have been in contact
with this Department, and are aware of the requirements, but are
still in the process of preparing detailed drawings for review." The
letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer.
The next letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated
October 31, 2022, which reads as follows: "This office has
reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a request to
construct a commercial building on property located at the above
referenced address. We have no objections to this proposal with
the following stipulations: Access around building shall be
provided for emergency vehicles with a minimum vertical
clearance of thirteen feet six inches, a turning radius of fifty-three
feet wall to wall and an inside turning radius of twenty-nine feet
six inches. This stipulation is referring to fire suppression
operations. A further detailed plan review will take place when
this division receives an official plan set." The letter is signed by
Brian Kukla, Fire Marshal. The next letter is from the Division of
Police, dated October 19, 2022, which reads as follows: "I have
reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. I have no
objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Scott
Sczepanski, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The next letter is from the
Inspection Department, dated November 1, 2022, which reads as
follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above referenced Petition
has been reviewed. 1. A variance from the Zoning Board of
Appeals would be required for the excess signage proposed.
Separate permits are required for all signs. This Department has
no further objections to this Petition." This letter is signed by
Jerome Hanna, Director of Inspection. The next letter is from the
Finance Department, dated October 25, 2022, which reads as
follows: "1 have reviewed the addresses connected with the
above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Connie Kumpula, Chief
Accountant. The next letter is from the Treasurer's Department,
dated October 19, 2022, which reads as follows: `In accordance
with your request, the Treasurer's Office has reviewed the
address connected with the above noted petition. At this time,
there are no outstanding amounts receivable for taxes.
Therefore, 1 have no objections to the proposal." The letter is
signed by Lynda Scheel, Treasurer. Lastly is an email we
received from Ewa Kedzierska, 20310 Mayfield, Livonia, MI that
reads: "Unfortunately I cannot attend the Public Hearing on
Tuesday Nov 15th in person and am writing instead. l am in
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opposition to Petition 202240-20 as the area where The Mannik
group wishes to construct an automated auto wash facility is
currently surrounded by professional and retail buildings, as well
as a smart new restaurant. 1 believe a car wash is not in keeping
within this part of Farmington Road. There is already a car wash
not a mile away at 9 Mile/Farmington, granted this is not Llvonia!
Thank you. "That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: All right, thank you, Mr. Taormina. Is there any questions for
planning staff? If not our petitioners in the audience, you're
welcome to come up to one of our podiums so our vast audience
can hear you and make your presentation. We'll ask that you start
with your name and address for our record.
Kyle Wrentmore, Mannik &Smith, 1160. Dublin Road, Columbus, Ohio.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, thank you, and what would you like to tell us about your
proposal?
Mr. Wrentmore: So, as you guys can see, not a lot has changed from the site plan
perspective from last meeting, from the study session. I know
some of the main updates we had were landscape as far as the
site plan. Mark noted that there was... it sounded like some
additional screening on the south that was not added that may
have been requested. We can certainly fill in additional shrubs in
between those mature trees, as well. Main questions from last
meeting that came up were related to some of the building
material, as well as screening for the rooftop units. Starting with
the building material, the quick brick was a question... we've
learned a little bit about what quick brick is the last couple of
weeks. So, this is actually a structural concrete brick system
that's... so traditional brick, obviously where there's rebar
requirements, things like that, throughout, this acts as the
structural wall as well as the finish. So, I think there was confusion
on if there was like a fake brick kind of put on the face of the
building, which is not the case. So, you can see a couple different
samples we have as far as color and what those entail. Then the
sample for the I'm just gonna say fake wood facade, that you can
see in some of the renderings that's attached, which is to, you
know, the two by fours behind it and mounted on. There is some
details in the packet regarding the parapet and how that... those
details are, you know, shown obviously, in that rendering you
have right there as well. So that's the only rooftop units we have
as far as mechanical equipment that is screened. So, I believe
that addresses a couple of those questions. There was I think
from an operation standpoint, I don't believe there's any
outstanding items we discussed last meeting. Some of the
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comments that staff had, we do plan to consolidate the lots and
comply with that. As far as signage, I think based on the
recommendation of this body we will likely just adhere to the
zoning code and not request a variance for that. That just has to
work out with the you know the final architectural drawings and
details there. So, again, we plan to adhere to the zoning code for
the building signage and the monument sign as well in that
placement. Trying to think what else. Mark mentioned storm
sewer and utilities. That will come during the final engineering
review, coordinating with that office. Likely we will try to reuse the
sanitary service, depending on the depth and the quality and the
condition of that water as well and size, but again, it all depends
on the condition. It's an old site, and in the depths there, storm
sewer will be handled, the tension and water quality will be
handled on the ground with approval from the Engineering
Department on that system. I think that's all I have. Do you have
anything to add Dennis? Okay. I'm happy to answer, try to answer
any other questions you guys might have.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Well, thank you, Mr. Wrentmore. That's an excellent presentation.
I think you hit most of the bullet points that I had on my notes as
far as things that we wanted to make sure that you followed up
on, so
I'll
go to my fellow Commissioners and see if there's any
questions for you. Ms. Smiley?
Ms. Smiley:
Thank you, Mr. Chair. There's a carwash at Nine and Gill now
there's another one...I didn't realize there was also one at Nine
and Farmington, but you said you kind of did a study and there's
enough. I mean...
(Someone speaking from their seat in audience)
Mr. Wilshaw:
Can we ask you to come up? Sorry. That way our TV audience
can hear you as well. All right.
Dennis Miller,
4200 Big Beaver, Suite 300, Troy, Michigan. I'm the consultant for
the for the carwash. Thank you. We talked about the one Eight
Mile and Gill, right? I didn't know... Nine Mile and Farmington, I
didn't know that was up there, but that's Farmington
Hills... Farmington, I guess or Farmington Hills. So, there's plenty
of room because we talked last time,
I think the closest wash in
Livonia is three or four miles away. So, there's a lot of room for a
carwash for the population too you know. I think the three
mile ... 65,000 people in that trade area. So, there's a lot of room
for carwashes for sure.
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S. Smiley: Okay, and then my other... you have no kind of a awning or cover
over where the vacuum cleaners are, do you?
Mr. Miller: No, ma'am. No.
Ms. Smiley: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: an you, Ms. Smiley. Any other questions for our petitioner?
Mr. Caramagno: I have a question for Mark. Mark, did you say that you thought the
lighting was excessive?
Mr. Taormina: Yes. Comparing the photometric plan to the City's lighting
standards, and I apologize that this was not discussed at the
study meeting, the maximum average illumination level for
parking lot areas in the parking lot is three (3) foot-candles,
whereas the ordinance limits the maximum average to one (1)
foot-candle. We recognize that these plans always have some
variation in the illumination levels, depending on the type of lights
and their placement, the overall average would be too high based
on what the ordinance limits it to. The other issue I think we
should address this evening is how long those lights remain on
after the close of business. As you recall at the study meeting,
the Petitioner indicated that the vacuums would be available after
hours, and if I understood correctly, 24-hours. If it's the intent to
keep the parking lot illuminated at times when the business is
closed, I think this is something that should be addressed. At a
minimum, the lights should be lowered or turned off after business
hours, and maybe even the vacuums turned off as well.
Mr. Caramagno: Do you think the standards are what they've got listed...so its
three times what we would normally like to see in a parking lot. A
parking lot where there's no activity other than parking your car,
there could be activity here people cleaning their cars. Do you
think there's room to meet in the middle on something like that?
Mr. Taormina: We can work with their lighting consultant or their engineers to
make adjustments to the lighting plan. I don't think that three (3)
foot-candles as compared to one (1) translates necessarily to
three (3) times the illumination level. The fact that the maximum
average is limited to one (1) and the plan shows an average of
three (3) doesn't mean three (3) times the amount of lighting. But
certainly, there is room to work with them on this. Again, the other
question which I think is equally important is what time are the
lights on and off during the operation?
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Mr, Caramagno: I would think that, you know, your primary focus here is daylight
hours washing cars, and even the business hours till eight o'clock
at night and most of the year that works out fine in the evening
like now it's a couple two or three hours of daylight or nighttime.
So, I think that something needs to give on that. It doesn't need
to look like daylight as you drive up Farmington Road here for a
carwash to light the whole world up there, in my opinion.
Or. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Caramagno. Any other questions?
Or. Long: Thank you. I actually just have more of a curiosity question. I
mean, so you know, we're Michigan and we get bad weather and
cold and everything like that. How...I know at the study session,
you talked about how you have really good drying machines, but
how do you prevent ice buildup at the exit of the carwash?
Or, Wrentmore: So, the concrete pad of the exit is I think there's a heated... it's
heated. So, 20 foot ... the first 20 foot is a heated pad.
Mr. Long: Okay. It's a different color on the rendering, right?
Mr. Wrentmore: Yeah, I believe so.
Mr. Long: Yeah, okay. So that's kind of like the gray part. That makes sense.
Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Long. Any other questions for our petitioner from
anyone? Okay, there is no one else in the audience to come
forward and speak to this item. So, if there is no additional
questions, I'll give a little moment if anybody thinks of anything
else. If there's no additional questions a motion would be an order
On a motion by Smiley, seconded by Long, and unanimously adopted, it was
#11-55-2022 RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on November 15, 2022, on
Petition 2022-10-02-20 submitted by The Mannik & Smith Group,
Inc. requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 6.07 of
the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance, as amended, in
connection with a proposal to redevelop the site, including
demolishing the existing commercial building and constructing a
new automated auto wash facility (Clean Express), at 20330 &
20340 Farmington Road, located on the east side of Farmington
Road between Norfolk Avenue and Eight Mile Road in the
Northwest'/4 of Section 3, the Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 2022-10-02-20 be
approved subject to the following conditions:
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1. That the Site Plan identified as C200, dated November 10,
2022, prepared by the Mannik Smith Group. is hereby
approved and shall be adhered to.
2. All parking spaces, except the required handicapped
spaces, shall be doubled striped at ten feet (10') wide by
twenty feet (20') in length.
3. That the hours of operation shall be limited to the following:
Monday thru Saturday from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and
Sunday from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
4. That the Landscape Plan identified as L100, dated
November 10, 2022, prepared by the Mannik Smith Group,
is hereby approved and shall be adhered to, except that the
final landscape plan details shall be approved by the
Planning Department.
5. That all disturbed lawn areas, including road rights -of -way,
shall be sodded in lieu of hydroseeding.
6. That underground sprinklers are to be provided for all
landscaped and sodded areas and all planted materials
shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Inspection
Department and thereafter permanently maintained in a
healthy condition.
7. That the Elevation Plan identified as A2-1, dated July 21,
2022, prepared by SBA Studios, is hereby approved and
shall be adhered to.
8. That the three walls of the trash dumpster area shall be
constructed out of the same brick used in the construction
of the building or in the event a poured wall is substituted,
the wall's design, texture and color shall match that of the
building. The enclosure gates shall be of solid panel steel
construction or durable, long-lasting solid panel fiberglass.
9. That all rooftop mechanical equipment shall be concealed
from public view on all sides by screening that shall be of a
compatible character, material and color to other exterior
materials on the building.
10. That all light fixtures shall not exceed twenty (20) feet in
height and shall be aimed and shielded to minimize stray
light from trespassing across property lines and glaring onto
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adjacent roadways. In addition, the lighting plan shall be
modified such that the maximum level of illumination for the
average of the site shall be as specified in Section
7.22(2)(B) of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance, and
the exterior lights shall either be turned off or dimmed after
business hours.
11. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for
review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals.
12. That no LED light band or exposed neon shall be permitted
on this site including, but not limited to, the building or
around the windows.
13. That unless approved by the proper local authority, any type
of exterior advertising, such as promotional flags, streamers
or sponsor vehicles designed to attract the attention of
passing motorists, shall be prohibited.
14. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and,
15. Pursuant to Section 13.13 of the Livonia Vision 21 Zoning
Ordinance, this approval is valid for a period of one year only
from the date of approval by City Council, and unless a
building permit is obtained, this approval shall be null and
void at the expiration of said period.
FURTHER RESOLVED, That notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 13.13 of
Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the
motion
is carried and
the foregoing
resolution
adoptedI It will goon to City
Council with
an approving
resolution.
ITEM #2 APPROVAL OF 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION
SCHEDULE
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the 2023 Planning Commission Schedule.
Jr,
Wilshaw: All right, we
were
presented with
a schedule for
meeting dates
next year. I
don't
know if there's
any changes or
corrections or
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additions to that schedule from anyone. I think we're all ok with it.
So, if that's fine, I think we can safely just receive and file that and
we will move on to item number three on our agenda.
Ms. Smiley: We don't have to vote formally?
Mr. Wilshaw: Just receive and file is fine.
ITEM #3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,192"d Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Mr. Caramagno, Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,192"d Public Hearing and Regular Meeting
held on October 25, 2022.
On a motion by Long ,seconded by Smiley ,and unanimously adopted, it was
#11-56-2022 RESOLVED, That the Minutes of 1,192"d Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on October
521 2022, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Long, Smiley, Caramagno, Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Dinaro, Bongero, Ventura
ABSTAIN: None
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,193rd Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on November 15, 2022, was adjourned at 7:34
ATTEST:
Ian Wilshaw, Chairman
CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
Secretary