HomeMy WebLinkAbout1,251 -October 13, 2026 signedMINUTES OF THE 1,251st PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING
HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA
On Tuesday, October 13, 2026, the City Planning Commission of the City of
Livonia held its 1,251st Public Hearing and Regular Meetings in the Livonia City
Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan.
Mr. lan Wilshaw, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Members present: Patrick Droze
lan Wilshaw
Members absent: Glen Long
David Bongero Peter Ventura
Sam Caramagno Wafa Dinaro
Mr. Jacob Uhazie, Assistant Planning Director, and Stephanie Reece, Program
Supervisor, were also present.
Chairman Wilshaw informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda
involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City
Council who, in turn, will hold its own public hearing and make the final
determination as to whether a petition is approved or denied. The Planning
Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or
vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City
Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a
petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the
petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City
Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective
seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the
professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their filing. The staff
has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which
the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the
proceedings tonight.
ITEM #1
Mr. Droze,
PETITION 2026-08-01-04 Farrukh Moghul
Acting Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition
2026-08-01-04, submitted by Farrukh Moghul, pursuant to
Section 13.15 of the Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended,
requesting to rezone the property at 15150 Levan Road, from C-
1 (Local Business) to C-2 (General Business), to allow for the
development of an electric vehicle charging lot as the principal
use, located on the east side of Levan Road between Five Mile
Road and Jamison Street in the Northeast'/ of Section 20.
Mr. Uhazie:
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Good evening. Thank you. And this is a request to rezone the
parcel located on the east side of Levan Road between Five and
Jamison, shown here. The existing site zoning is C-1 (Local
business), and the proposal is to change it to C-2 (General
business). The parcel measures 0.29 acres in size, with 100 feet
of frontage on Levan by a depth of about 165 feet. The Future
Land Use Plan does designate this property as Corridor
Commercial, which would correspond with the proposed zoning
classification and use. The reason for the zoning here tonight is
to facilitate development of a paved parking area with public EV
chargers. The zoning ordinance states that electric vehicle
charging stations or ports, as a principal use of the property, shall
be treated as a waiver -use limited to the C-2 and C-3 zoning, and
subject to review and submission of findings by the city planning
commission and approval by the city council pursuant to section
6.26 of the zoning ordinance. There is a little bit of history on this
site. Before the Livonia Vision 21 Master Plan and zoning
ordinance update, this site was zoned OS. As part of that,
everything that was zoned OS has been transferred to C-1
zoning. The site also falls under a consent judgment from 2007,
where the property was split into two. The City of Livonia agreed
to purchase a portion of the site, and then the remainder was
approved for a proposed office building. The building and
supported parking were not built, but the building is shown here,
and the proposed parking is shown on the site plan, shown here
of where it would have gone in the consent judgment. The
surrounding neighborhoods included to the north and east are
vacant parcels zoned C-1. To the south is the pharmacy zoned
C-1 as well, and then west across Levan is the Trinity Health
Hospital campus, which is zoned C-4 (High-rise commercial). The
preliminary plans consist solely of a paved parking lot with two
electric vehicle charging stations. This would accommodate up to
four vehicles charging at one time. These are level three
proposed chargers. There is a transformer located off to the north
of the parking area, and there's also an EV service rack in the
front of parking space labeled four shown here. The site plan
does show 13 total parking spaces, which are double striped, two
of which are barrier free. The charging units are located along
Levan Road. One thing to note, although this is just for the
rezoning, the site plan for the waiver -use if they come back, the
zoning ordinance does require EV charging stations to be at least
10 feet from any public right of way, and the principal use of the
property should be treated as a waiver -use, as I just mentioned.
Access to the parking area would be provided off of the single 24-
foot-wide drive located to the south end of the property shown
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
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here. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Yes, please.
The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated September
4, 2026, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your
request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above
referenced petition. We have no objections to the proposed
rezoning at this time but would like to note the following items:1.
The subject parcel is assigned the address of #15150 Levan
Road. 2. The existing parcels are currently serviced by public
storm sewer and water main. Sanitary sewer is not currently
available to the parcel, so the owner would be required to extend
a sewer to the property for any proposed improvements if
needed. 3. The site plan included with the submittal does not
reflect the current proposed use, so we cannot comment on
impacts to existing utility systems at this time. 4. Any proposed
development will be required to conform to the current version of
the Wayne County Storm Water Ordinance. Storm water reviews
for the site may be completed by either City of Livonia or EGLE,
depending on the outlet chosen for site storm water. 5. If the
project is approved, engineering drawings will need to be
submitted to this department and possibly EGLE for review and
permitting.." The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant
City Engineer. The next letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue
Division, dated September 8, 2026, which reads as follows: "This
office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with the
new construction and use of the property located at the above
referenced address. This division is concerned with future
development of this property in terms of other new construction,
specifically of buildings and proximity to the EV charging parking
lot. If future development of this property does occur, maintaining
Fire department access for suppression efforts in the event of an
EV vehicle fire is also a concern and requirement. Due to the
potential of copious amounts of water utilized in EV fire
application, a fire hydrant location in close proximity is critical.
Consult with a licensed, certified architect regarding fire code. A
further detailed plan review will take place when this division
receives an official plan set" The letter is signed by Brian Kukla,
Fire Marshal. The next letter is from the Division of Police, dated
September 10, 2026, which reads as follows: "1 have reviewed
the plans in connection with the petition. I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Brendan Adams, Sergeant,
Traffic Bureau. The next letter is from the Inspection Department,
dated September 21, 2026, which reads as follows: "Pursuant to
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your request, the above -referenced Petition has been reviewed.
1. Exterior lighting sources shall be designed, constructed,
located, and maintained in a manner that minimizes light trespass
onto neighboring properties and public ways. The light trespass
from a property shall not exceed 0.5-foot-candles at the property
line, measured five (5) feet from the ground. This Department has
no further objections to this Petition." The letter is signed by
Jerome Hanna, Director of Inspection. The next letter is from the
Finance Department, dated September 10, 2026, which reads as
follows: "/ have reviewed the addresses connected with the
above noted petition. As there are no outstanding amounts
receivable, general or water and sewer, I have no objections to
the proposal." The letter is signed by Ermon Sims, Chief
Accountant. The next letter is from the Treasurer's Department,
dated September 4, 2026, which reads as follows: "The owner of
the property is current on the property tax" The letter is signed by
Susie Nash, Treasurer. Mr. Chair, I also received numerous
public comments that have been submitted to you for review to
consider as well. That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, yes, we do. We have received a number of pieces of
communication from nearby residents about this. They are all in
our packet, and some of them are multiple pages in length, so it's
not going to be possible to read those out tonight. But we do have
them here, and we have had a chance to go through those and
read them, just so the folks in our audience know if they're
interested in that. And those will be part of our packet and stay
with this item as it moves along in the process, so thank you, Mr.
Uhazie. Is there any questions for planning staff from my
colleagues? Nothing. Okay. Is the petitioner here? Feel free to
come forward to the podium. We're going to have some questions
for you, and in the meantime, as you're walking forward, I do want
to explain. I do this for all these types of meetings. What we have
before us tonight is a rezoning request to rezone this property
from C-1 to C-2. It's from a local business zoning classification to
a general business classification, which allows a little bit more
intense use, including automotive -related uses, which is why this
is coming to us for this particular use. Just so you understand how
this process works, we are going to be focused on the zoning
tonight, so you will hear some discussion about the site plan, but
it's going to be fairly limited because the issue that we're trying to
resolve tonight is the zoning itself. The site plan that is before us
is conceptual; it is bound to change. They will have to come back
to us for the detailed site plan. If this moves forward, the process
that the city goes through with these types of requests is: we will
look at the zoning first. We will make our recommendation either
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approving or denying this item. It will then go to city council. City
council has to have a first reading and a second reading. At the
second reading is when they either approve or deny the rezoning
as well. What typically happens, just so you understand, is that
the council will hold the second reading once it gets to that point
to allow the petitioner to start the site plan process. We'll see the
site plan. It'll come here. We'll have a meeting about the site plan.
Again, we'll make a recommendation on that. That will go to city
council, and then city council will rule on both the site plan and
the zoning, usually at the same meeting, at the same time. They
kind of bring those two items together. So hopefully that makes
sense. It's a lot to understand, but again, we're going to be
focused primarily on the zoning issues tonight, but there will be
some, I'm sure, limited discussion about some site plan elements
here. Good evening, sirs. Would you like to introduce yourself
with your name and address, please?
Evan Shimkus, 102 Shore Wood Lane, Howell, Michigan.
Faruk Mogul, 1870 Canterbury Court, Bloomfield, Michigan.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, thank you, Mr. Shimkus and Mr. Mogul, for being here
tonight. What would you like to tell us about your plan for this
property?
Mr. Shimkus: The plan is fairly simple. As you've seen, we would just be
developing the parcel into that proposed parking area, and then
going through the typical site plan review to hash out the details
later. Which sounds like the chargers can't go in that buffer area,
so they move. And just so everybody's aware, that building on
there, we are not proposing to build at all at this current time.
We're just proposing the parking lot with two fast chargers. So I
saw some concerns about noise and lighting. That's all stuff site
plan review... that we would hash out later on.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to tell us before we
get to questioning? Are you all set? All set. Okay, great. Any
questions for the petitioner?
Mr. Droze: Thank you, Mr. Chair. For this particular site, what was it about it
that led you to this use, and what other uses have you been able
to look at as part of looking to develop here?
Mr. Mogul: I had contacted Ready Charging and ChargeX about a couple
properties that I own, and they recommended this one for
developing, and it fit their feasibility requirements.
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Shimkus:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Shimkus:
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Could you speak to that a little bit?
Yeah, it's mainly just traffic data that we pulled, showed that this
was, out of all his properties, the best property for EV charging,
and it showed the most people would utilize this new amenity
here.
And what we're looking at is two chargers, and I guess what are
the extra parking lots or parking spaces for?
Mainly was just for traffic flow, and we were just taking the old site
plan from the building. So, in all actuality, we probably wouldn't
actually do as many stalls unless it was required by you guys
during site plan review to meet any sort of minimum. There were
other talks of you know later on doing...they make these module
bathrooms and vending machine things. So then there could be
a bathroom here at some point as well.
Mr. Droze: Okay, thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Droze. Any other questions?
Mr. Bongero: Jacob this might go to you. This petitioner has offered a
conditional zoning for this.
Mr. Uhazie: That's my understanding.
Mr. Bongero: Okay, can you explain that so everybody understands what that
means?
Mr. Uhazie: So, a conditional zoning or conditional rezoning would be if the
petitioner is open to it, they could voluntarily say that this rezoning
is only valid for whatever these conditions are. In this case, it
would be something along the lines of for EV charger or for their
ownership as an EV charger. So, if it ever changed ownership or
changed use, it would automatically revert back to the from the
C-2 to the C-1.
Mr. Bongero: So, there's a little protection there.
Mr. Uhazie:
Yes, and one of the reasons that this is going through the
rezoning is just because the principal use as an EV charger. They
could do the parking lot in a C-1, but because they're proposing
this as a principal use, it does require to be C-2 at least to install
that.
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Mr. Bongero: Okay, and then with this petitioner, the C-2 is only for an EV lot.
That's it. So they wanted to change the use in the future, it's not
happening, right?
Mr. Uhazie: They would have to go to... if they didn't come to council, it would
automatically revert to a C-1 unless they came back to council
and that they amended the conditional zoning.
Mr. Bongero: Okay. Thanks for clarification. Thanks, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Bongero. Mr. Ventura,
Mr. Ventura: Can you tell us what you think the operating hours are going to
be what your proposed operating hours?
Mr. Shimkus: Typically, a lot of our other sites are 24 hours.
Mr. Ventura: So, you want to have the lights on there. You want to have this
place open 24 hours a day?
Mr. Shimkus:
That is correct. Originally, that is what we would propose, unless
you guys were stating otherwise based off your ordinances for
noise and lighting.
Mr. Ventura: Will the will the electrical capacity here support charging trucks,
over the road trucks?
Mr. Shimkus: Like semi -trucks?
Mr. Ventura: Yeah.
Mr. Shimkus: No, we weren't planning to do semi or bus.
Mr. Ventura: It's not what I asked. Will the electrical capacity here support that?
Mr. Shimkus: No, not without upgrades. It needs...DTE would even right now
just for you know personal use vehicles, we would need to have
DTE come and bring in a new transformer as proposed. So, if we
were to say want to do like bigger trucks, that would be a larger
service, and it's also not something we're pursuing.
Mr. Ventura: Okay, and I guess my last question is: Will this be available to all
brands of automobiles, electric automobiles?
Mr. Shimkus:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Shimkus:
David
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Yes, sir. There will be CCS and NAGS, so all electric vehicles can
charge here.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Ventura. Any other questions for the petitioner at
this time from my colleagues? Nothing else. I'm going to go to the
audience and see if they have anything to say on this item. So, if
you want to just step down for one second, we'll get you back up
after we hear from them.
Okay. Thank you for that. Anyone in the audience wishing to
speak on this item, please come forward to our podium. Good
evening, sir.
Mulligan, and I'm acting as spokesman for Reynolds Ravine Civic
Association. A lot of our neighbors are here this evening. Like on
procedure -wise. I'd like to submit a petition that's been signed by
25 residents here for the record.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Mulligan:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Mulligan:
Yes, you can hand it to Ms. Reece. Okay. I also have a small
version of a poster that I brought today outlining my points. I'd like
to submit that also for the record.
I'd like to ask for two extra minutes, being a spokesman.
Certainly, we'll give you a few extra minutes.
Good evening, Chairman and members of the Planning
Commission. My name is David Mulligan. I live at 15050 Gulfview
Drive in the Reynolds Ravine subdivision. I'm here tonight to urge
this commission to deny petition 2026-08-01-04. This request to
rezone 15150 Levan Road from C-1 to C-2 to build an unattended
24-hour electric vehicle charging lot as a principal use is an illegal
overdevelopment that threatens our community. Livonia has
proudly stood by its family's first motto, but a motto is only as
strong as the foundation beneath it. Our neighborhoods are the
true pillars of the family, serving as the safe, quiet sanctuaries
where our children play and grow; they form an irreplaceable
ecosystem, supported by the essential protection of our police
and fire departments, alongside our local schools, our churches,
and our community events like gatherings at Greenmead, our
neighborhood parks, and our places of worship, where we
connect as human beings. High -intensity, 24-hour commercial
developments do not belong clipped against these spaces. When
we protect our residential neighborhoods from commercial
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encroachment, we aren't just protecting property values. We are
actively defending the very pillars that make Livonia a community
where families can thrive. The proposed rezoning of 15150 Levan
Road directly threatens this exact foundation. Under Section
13.15 of the Livonia Zoning Ordinance, a rezoning request must
be heavily justified and compatible with the surrounding area. All
rezoning must be directly protect neighborhood compatibility,
match the city's master plan, and preserve local residential
character. This property is currently a narrow, quiet green lot. The
developer wants to change it from a C-1 (Local business) to a C-
2 (General business) to build a high -intensity, 24-hour
commercial EV charging hub. Let's be entirely clear about what a
C-2 designation means. It grants unrestricted commercial rights.
A 24-hour unstaffed commercial operation introduces a
permanent nighttime nuisance directly against our backyards.
The proposed lighting and noise barriers will be completely
ineffective at filtering out the continuous disruption to our homes.
This is not the low -impact local businesses intended by our
zoning laws. It's an aggressive commercial encroachment that
puts a developer's profit ahead of our community safety.
Furthermore, this petition is a strategic regulatory leapfrog by
requesting a straight transition to C-2 right now. The developer is
actively trying to bypass the neighborhood site plan scrutiny that
a C-1 development requires. If you grant a C-2 designation
tonight, you give this developer a blank check. They gain
unrestricted commercial rights to build or pivot to a high -intensity
usage by right in the future, such as the 24-hour drive -through or
convenience retail, completely stripping us local residents of any
future public hearings or legal say in what gets constructed
directly up against our property lines. The city has a long historical
precedent of protecting this exact buffer. In 2007, the City of
Livonia allocated $30,000 in public funds to settle a zoning
dispute on this very property to preserve its quiet neighborhood
buffer zone. Reversing course now completely erases that
established legal safety net and misuses past public resources.
A principal use commercial infrastructure utility hub simply does
not belong squeezed into a narrow neighborhood buffer. Do not
allow a procedural leapfrog to strip our subdivision of its of its
voice. For our safety, our master plan, and our neighborhood's
future, I strongly urge the commission to deny petition 2026-08-
01-04. Thank you. My neighbor will now address our serious
environmental and public safety concerns.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Mulligan, for your comments. Good evening,
ma'am.
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Ms. Malec, 36114 Parkhurst Ave., Livonia, MI. Good evening, members of the
Planning Commission. Thank you for having us.
Mr. Wilshaw: Very good. Thank you, Ms. Malec.
Ms. Malec:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Following my neighbor's testimony, I am here to address the
severe environmental infrastructure and public safety threats
posed by Petition 2026-08-01-04. Our primary environmental
concern centers on the catastrophic threat to the Bell Branch
Watershed. Paving over this raw green lot to create a heavy
asphalt parking footprint creates massive, unmitigated
commercial stormwater runoff. Any proposed retention tank
defenses are entirely inadequate for managing high volume flash
rain events on a narrow -sloped parcel. This runoff will drain
directly into Bell Branch Creek, accelerating rapid stream bank
erosion. This directly undermines the historical hard-fought
structural investments made right here by our community and the
city in 2002 during the Bell Branch Stream Bank Stabilization
Project. The first five homeowners at our subdivision's entrance
were personally specially assessed $20,000 each out of pocket
to preserve and stabilize this creek bank, allowing a commercial
developer to swoop in, bypass our transitional buffer, and
degrade that exact same watershed, is an insult to the financial
sacrifices residents have made to protect Livonia's natural
borders. Furthermore, introducing a 24-hour, completely
unattended infrastructure asset creates an activity security
vacuum right next to our community buffer. An unmonitored
charging hub with no storefront, no staff, and dark corners creates
an immediate vector for vandalism, loitering, and property theft.
High voltage charging hubs left dark and unstaffed overnight
invite criminal activity directly adjacent to residential properties
where our children play. A transitional zoning layer is meant to
protect residents, not act as a shield for a developer to inject high -
intensity commercial nuances and security vulnerabilities into a
resident ecosystem. The developer sought multiple extensions to
avoid your vote because they know this plan breaks the fabric of
Livonia ordinances. We thank you and ask you to hold the line
tonight for our environment, our families, our property rights.
Please deny petition 2026-08-01-04, And remember, families
first. Thank you.
Thank you for your presentation, Ms. Malec. Anyone else wishing
to speak on this item? No one else wishing to come up. All right.
I'm going to go back to the petitioner. You can feel free to come
forward to our podium. There's one more person that would like
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to speak. I guess. We'll go ahead and let her speak. There we go.
Hi. Good evening, ma'am.
Cecilia Coffey, 15099 Woodside Drive, Livonia, MI. I am especially impacted
because this is right behind my house. One of the big concerns
is this piece of property that will all be cemented in, and that was
going to increase more stormwater and increase the flow of water
down the creek, and the creek where I live is very deep, and the
water flow during rain is very fast. His property is eroded, all the
edges. It's dangerous for children, and especially in high rain and
more water, it all goes down the creek and destroys the neighbors
who live on the creek, who have lost a tremendous amount of
property. One of our neighbors has lost his property up to his
deck. It's awful, and so increasing this, not even stopping that flow
of water is a crime. It's a crime to the citizens of Reynolds Ravine,
and I've lived there 30 years, and I've seen the property diminish
in size through the years. It's much smaller than it used to be
because it's continually eroding, and it's formed large caverns
around the edges. Dangerous for children, it's very deep, and it
just causes more insult to this already damaged area that my
neighbors have had to suffer, and so I'm here just to tell you to
not consider this. It's dangerous. His property has eroded so
much now, and this isn't going to make it any better. So, I give
you my heart and soul about this, and I hope you reconsider not
doing this because it's not safe for Reynolds Ravine or our
neighborhood. Oh, and the lights too -light all night, trafficking
bathrooms. I mean, this is not a place for the residents of
Reynolds Ravine for their safety but thank you very much.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Ms. Coffey. I appreciate your comments. There's one
more neighbor there. Good evening, ma'am.
Janice Prokopenko, 36126 Parkhurst, Livonia, MI. I guess. I really would like you
to stop this development. I am two doors from Cecilia. I've lived
in Reynolds Ravine 38 years. I was upset when they extended
the car wash, and there's a huge light also. So now I'm hearing
voices, people talking, and the light is very strong. If there's more
lights going on, I can't imagine what it would look like. I have lost
six feet entirely. The deer just goes straight down diagonally from
my property. I've lost six feet, and the property goes like this. And
I'm the one that gets it the most, most of the erosion, so I just
hope you have good wisdom doing this. Thank you so much.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you for your thoughts. Appreciate that. Thank you. Anyone
else wishing to speak on this item? If not, I am going to close the
public hearing. If the petitioner would like to come forward and
Mr. Shimkus:
Mr. Shimkus:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Shimkus:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
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speak to anything that they've heard so far before we make our
decision, they're free to come forward and have the last word.
Welcome back. Anything else that you'd like to say on this item?
Yeah, I just wanted to address some of the comments to hopefully
help get a better understanding of the project and the effects of it
in regard to like security and things, I totally understand with the
residents, and I actually side with them on that. There would be
cameras at some point just to monitor that area, kind of like the
parking lot I'm assuming has cameras for the medical center
behind the other residents' homes, and as well as like stormwater
and things of that nature, we're also going to have to combat the
stormwater. I'm assuming at some point during plan review, and
just to all the residents, you know, we'll do stormwater
calculations. I'm sure there's stormwater calculations and soil
erosion permits and things that would have to be looked at by
your engineering team at the City of Livonia, so yeah, this is
purely just the zoning. So we just bring it back to that item, and
since we are in that commercial corridor, and this being honestly
a smaller development than the ones that I'm seeing in that area,
we just would like to bring it to that zoning and then go from there.
Any more questions for me as well? I can try to answer them.
Let me see if my colleagues have any additional questions for
you. Any additional questions for our petitioner this time?
So, if this were to be approved with a restriction on hours from
say 6 a.m. to 8 p.m. what would that do to your business plan?
We could look into it, but I don't imagine it would be detrimental
to the project. I think we would still be open to doing the project if
that was the case. It's definitely not the case for us, we would like
to keep them operational as long as we meet your guys' noise,
you know, noise ordinance and lighting.
Okay, thank you. One other question.
Of course.
Mr. Uhazie, how far is this proposed development from the
Reynolds Ravines subdivision at its closest point? You know,
I can probably measure it here. Just a second.
Mr. Wilshaw: We have tools for that.
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Mr. Uhazie: The rear property line, is about 120 feet from the nearest
residential, where the proposed parking lot would be would
probably be around just over 200 feet, give or take, without having
a detailed site plan.
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Shimkus:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay, thank you. I guess I do have...well, in consideration, no, I
don't. Okay, I'm good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
It's your floor. If there's anything else you want to say, feel free. If
not, if there's anything else from any of my colleagues,
Just one thing I know was touched on earlier by Mr. Bongero, but
this might be a good time to, if you guys have any more detail on
the proposed conditional rezoning that they have offered to as a
that they are open to participating in, subject to city council
approval, where it would be rezoned to C-2 for their use only, but
they could probably give you more details of what they're
proposing.
Yeah, I guess we were just curious if the commission would be
comfortable incorporating that as a condition upon approval
tonight and then going through the normal process from there.
But basically, yeah, that the parcel would be used for the C-2 use
of EV charging, and then any other uses in C-2 would not be a
part of our project in the future.
Okay, so you're comfortable with if this was not successful as an
EV charging parking lot, and someone else wanted to use this for
another C-2 use, whatever that may be, you're comfortable with
not allowing that and having this property revert back to C-1
zoning. Is that what you're saying?
Mr. Shimkus: Correct.
Mr. Mogul: If it doesn't work as EV, we can't use it for anything else, whatever
the other uses are under that zoning.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay.
Mr. Mogul: And as far as a couple of the residents mentioned, lighting and
pollution from the lighting, I was on the board of a mosque in
Rochester Hills, and we went through this and we made the
lights...basically put timers on them and motion sensors and
infrared sensors to only put them on. And Rochester Hills made
us put -I don't know what kind of bulb it was, but it was a special
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bulb that, so to say, you know, the dimmer -it's like that that goes
on, and they made it directionally away because we have a
subdivision right next to our mosque, literally up against the
property, just like this, and I was proposing that kind of lighting,
where when there's people there, then you leave it on, and then
when there's not there, then you just have two or three lights on
to minimize the light pollution from all the lights being on.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay.
Mr. Mogul: Yeah. And as far as the water runoff, I'm sure EGLE will have a
whole bunch of things that they're going to make us do to prevent
any further damage to or any further erosion on this project.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. Yeah, as you heard from the residents, those are certainly
the main concerns that were expressed. So, I'm glad that you're
addressing those.
Mr. Uhazie: I just also want to reiterate while we're discussing the parking lots,
that this was part of that consent decree. That, as the petitioner
mentioned, this is an existing site plan. So that parking lot, by the
consent decree, is allowed. Like if they weren't coming for the EV
charger, they could build that site. They could utilize this site plan
without going through planning. They would still have to follow all
the EGLE regulations, but that parking lot has been approved by
consent and judgment in the past.
Mr. Wilshaw: But that would be a C-1 use at that point.
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Mogul:
Mr. Wilshaw:
But just saying, as far as the environmental standards are
concerned, okay, they'd still have to adhere to those. But it has
been approved in the past as far as that site plan and consent
judgment process.
To piggyback on the comment, that would add a lot more
concrete and covered area with the building, and that's already
been approved, and the parking lot. This is, I think, 25 or 30
percent of covered area of what was approved back then.
All right. Thank you for those comments. Anything else from my
colleagues? If not, thank you for coming this evening. We're going
to see if there's a motion now. Is there a motion on this item?
On a motion by Bongero, seconded by Droze, and adopted, it was
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RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on October 13, 2026, on
Petition 2026-08-01-04, submitted by Farrukh Moghul, pursuant
to Section 13.15 of the Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended,
requesting to rezone the property at 15150 Levan Road, from C-
1 (Local Business) to C-2 (General Business), to allow for the
development of an electric vehicle charging lot as the principal
use, located on the east side of Levan Road between Five Mile
Road and Jamison Street in the Northeast'/ of Section 20, the
Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City
Council that Petition 2026-08-01-04 be approved subject to the
following conditions:
1. That the proposed change of zoning to C-2 would be
compatible to and in harmony with the surrounding zoning
and land uses in the area.
2. That the property involved in this request would be in full
compliance with C-2 District regulations.
3. The rezoning is consistent with the Future Land Use for the
properties.
4. That the proposed change of zoning to C-2 would cause the
zoning of the property to more accurately correspond to the
use and size of the property.
5. The proposed zoning change represents a reasonable and
logical plan for the subject property that adheres to sound
land use planning principles; and
6. The Petitioner has voluntarily offered a conditional zoning
agreement pursuant to MCL 125.3405 of the Michigan
Zoning Enabling Act, Act 110 of 2006, as amended, which
includes a Statement of Conditions limiting the use and
development of the subject property; and
7. The Statement of Conditions shall be considered a condition
of the rezoning and shall govern the use and development
of the subject property in accordance with the terms and
conditions contained therein.
FURTHER RESOLVED, That notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 13.13 and
13.15 of the Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended.
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A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Droze:
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Droze, Bongero, Wilshaw
Ventura
Caramagno, Dinaro, Long
None
Is there any discussion?
Number six, the petitioner has voluntarily offered a conditional
zoning agreement. My question, Mr. Uhazie, can we require a
conditional zoning agreement?
We cannot require a conditional rezoning.
Which means that they can change their mind at any time.
They've offered this and they can withdraw.
Well, once they agree to it with council and council approves it,
then they're locked into it.
But we're not at council,
Correct?
So, between now and council, they could withdraw that?
Correct?
Okay. So, there's no way really to bind that.
Not until council approves. Correct.
Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Mr. Ventura. Yeah, that's a legal requirement that
conditional zoning agreements have to be voluntarily entered into
by the petitioner. We can't oblige them to do that. Thank you. Any
other questions or comments on the motion, Mr. Droze?
Mr. Chair, just maybe as a question for Mr. Uhazie, because this
would be a waiver -use this would come back to us, correct? And
that's the time that we could bring back some of the things about
the lighting and lighting hours
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Mr. Uhazie: That would probably be the more appropriate time to discuss
those in detail.
Mr. Droze: Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #2 PETITION 2026-09-02-24 Infinity Acquisitions, LLC
Mr. Droze, Acting Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda Petition 2026-
09-02-24, submitted by Infinity Acquisitions, LLC, requesting
waiver use approval under Sections 3.16 and 6.58 of the Livonia
Zoning Ordinance, as amended, to operate an outdoor storage
facility in connection with a special trades contractor at 34426
Rosati Avenue, located on the north side of Rosati Avenue in the
southwest'/ of Section 28.
Mr. Uhazie: Thank you. This is a request to operate a special trade
contractor's yard with outdoor storage. The location is on Rosati
Drive, within the Rosati Industrial Park subdivision, located on the
west side of Stark Road, just south of the CSX Railroad. The
industrial park is a platted industrial park, zoned M-1. It consists
of 16 individual lots, including one devoted solely to the purpose
of stormwater management. The site in question totals 23,959
square feet, or about 0.55 acres. As I mentioned, it is part of the
industrial park and surrounded by other industrial parcels. The
closest residential district is roughly 275 feet to the south, and
then the closest home is about 400 feet away. The proposal
includes an industrial building which is under construction. You
can see here, which measures 70 feet by 87 feet, with a gross
floor area of about 6,000 square feet. Under the proposed site
plan, vehicles would enter along the west of the property line,
across with access to the rear of the property. The zoning
ordinance does require that the lot be enclosed with a fence for
special contractor yards. Landscaping in the front yard is
required, and the outside stacking of and stockpiling material
shall not exceed eight feet in height. The petitioners site plan
does show that the outdoor storage would consist of, along the
northern property line, there would be an above ground fuel
station, and then storage for small dump trucks, pickup trucks,
and trailer storage. And then along the eastern property line,
shown here, would be light and heavy equipment. And then
exterior storage along the north and west parts of the building
would be additional equipment, pallets of salt, landscaping
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
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material, topsoil, mulch, and the entire site would be surrounded
by a proposed six-foot black aluminum fence with a wooden gate
that opens and closes. Parking requires one space for each 500
square feet of use. Based on the size of the building, nine parking
spaces are required. As I mentioned, there would be a gate that
restricts access to the rear of the site, And the building under
construction is made out of a combination of face brick and
precast concrete panels. The building's height does have a height
of 26' 8". Along with this, there is an existing dumpster on site
shown in the northeast corner of the site plan. It is enclosed and
has solid panel gate. Excuse me, solid material gates that open
and close. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the
departmental correspondence.
Yes, please.
The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated September
28, 2026, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your
request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above
referenced petition. We have no objections to the proposed
waiver use at this time, but would like to note the following
items.-1. The subject parcel is assigned the address of #34426
Rosati Drive. If additional addresses are required, the owner will
need to contact this department once approvals have been
granted. 2. The existing parcel is currently serviced by public
sanitary sewer, water main and storm sewer. There is no
information on proposed usage, but we do not believe there will
be any adverse effects on the existing systems." The letter is
signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City Engineer. The next
letter is from the Division of Police, dated September 24, 2026,
which reads as follows: "1 have reviewed the plans in connection
with the petition. I have no objections to the proposal." The letter
is signed by Brendan Adams, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The next
letter is from the Inspection Department, dated October 6, 2026,
which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above -
referenced Petition has been reviewed. This Department has no
objections to this Petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna,
Director of Inspection. The next letter is from the Finance
Department, dated September 28, 2026, which reads as follows:
"1 have reviewed the addresses connected with the above noted
petition. As there are no outstanding amounts receivable, general
or water and sewer, I have no objections to the proposal." The
letter is signed by Ermon Sims, Chief Accountant. The next letter
is from the Treasurer's Department, dated September 22, 2026,
which reads as follows: "The owner of the property is current on
Mr. Wilshaw:
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the property tax." The letter is signed by Susie Nash, Treasurer.
That is the extent of the correspondence.
Alright, thank you, Mr. Uhazie. Any questions for staff? No
questions. Petitioner is here. Good evening, sir.
Infinity Homes and Company, 42400 Grand River, Novi, MI, Suite
112. Just before I kind of just give you a quick rundown, is that
the revised site plan that we sent last week? You know, at the
study meeting week. Yes. Oh, it is okay. All right. I guess right
there. So, basically, as I indicated last week, we're primarily a real
estate development company. We specialize in multifamily,
single-family home production, and home building. In the last
couple years, we recently acquired a landscaping business. So,
that kind of like supplements a lot of the apartments and office
buildings that we own, in addition to our neighborhoods that we
build, and this is just going to kind of complement it. We already
were in the process of trying to build a storage facility for our
business. Over the years, you can imagine you start to
accumulate a lot of small equipment, heavy equipment. Now with
the landscaping business, there's other equipment that we have
as well. So, this kind of is going to serve as a hub for us. As I
mentioned again last week, this isn't like a nine to five operation.
Our people typically will come here on most days, and it's
seasonal too, right? So, but we'll have like our internal staff that
will be coming to and from. There won't be any employees based
out of here. For the landscaping side of it, they'll come start in the
morning, usually around seven a.m. They'll pick up their stuff for
the day, leave, come back, drop off, and then from our real estate
development company, there could be days where people aren't
there at all, and there could be days where people are coming
there just picking up whatever equipment there is. But as
indicated on the site plan, as mentioned, there will be a sliding
gate in front for security and for privacy, and we are looking to
probably store...obviously, you see the dumpster enclosure in the
northwest corner, filed by all like the vehicles, we have a few
small dump trucks. There's a couple like when I say heavy
equipment, there's like a small loader and like some skid steers
and stuff that we use. We have a few dump trucks as well. There's
going to be a small fuel station. It's probably over embellished in
the picture, but for... in the center of it, there's going to be a fueling
station there as needed. And then around the building, we're
looking to put a couple storage racks on the north facing the
railroad tracks. There's going to be a couple on the side. So, with
that being said, I'm happy to answer any questions you guys
have. It kind of gives you a quick, brief rundown. But we see it as
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Soave:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Soave:
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kind of non -intrusive in the fact that one, we're backing up to the
railroad tracks, and this isn't like I said for the most part there
won't be any employees here. All parking will be limited to inside
the perimeter, the premises inside the secured gate.
All right, thank you, Mr. Soave. Any questions for the petitioner?
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, the building itself, is like a combination
of office and warehouse. What do you anticipate will happen in
that? Is it really just more like for storage, or do you expect to
have any staff? Because I'm just kind of thinking about the
parking spaces and how we square the space number you have
versus what the use is going to be?
Parking is always a challenge, but again, as I mentioned, it's not
a concern to me because we don't really have...there's office
space in the front, but it's going to be unfinished. We're eventually
going to build like a mezzanine above that for pretty much
additional storage. But again, if...I would say if we have anybody
here during the day in the next three years, five years, I'd be
surprised because it's not that...the building's really not big
enough. By the time you think...you have 6,000, 7000 feet, and
you start okay, I have all the space now, and you start putting
stuff in it. It's not really that big of a space, so that's where we're
finding out. You know, we're finding out now as you start planning
ahead.
Okay, and then at the study session, I think you mentioned, I'll
call it like bulk materials, like maybe gravel, wood chips, that sort
of thing. Are you planning on having that on site?
It's temporary. If we have like certain jobs we're doing, it might be
there in the back for a period of time. But again, this isn't going to
be like a nursery where you know storing plants and stuff and it's
not big enough. First and foremost, that's not really our business
either. So, to answer your question, if there is, it'll be limited. And
if we have like jobs we're doing, they may come back because
they need somewhere to stockpile it. But this will not be a you
know full like landscaping business. That's probably like, really on
the scale of our business, that's probably like 10% of our
business.
Mr. Droze: Okay.
Mr. Soave: So, there's the landscaping business is made up about maybe
eight to 10 employees. Some of them carpool during the day, so
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Soave:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Soave:
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you might see like three guys drive a one car, for example. So,
and then it's really like a third of the staff, so we probably have
like three, four cars any given day.
Okay, and then Mr. Uhazie mentioned it'll be a aluminum fence
around. Could you talk about like is that like vertical slats or what
is that going to look like? We don't really have a...
I mean, right now we have slated to put a six-foot aluminum high
fence, and the front's going to have like a sliding gate, as you see,
kind of where it's indicated on the site plan. Yeah, that'll be more
of a wood front, so it'll be decorative. I mean, right now the place
isn't up...it looks like a building under construction. It's been that
way for months because we've been waiting on utilities for DTE
to connect the power for the last six months. So once that's done,
the approach will be done, and we'll finish off. We're hoping to
landscape and get everything done by the end of the season.
Okay, and that's going to be an automated gate that'll close once
people pass through.
Correct. The employees will have like access cards. You know,
they'll be given out to certain employees, so not each employee
is going to have an access card. So, they have an access card,
swipe their card. Gate will open up. Gate will close.
Mr. Droze: Okay. Alright. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Drose. Any other questions for our petitioner? All
right. Anybody in the audience wishing to speak on this item? We
do have one person coming forward.
Ron Emling, on behalf of well, I start with my address, 24800 Five Mile Road,
Redford, Michigan 48239. I'm the current owner of 34430 and
34437 and 34422 on both sides of Mr. Soave. We had developers
rights here when I bought this development. We were nearing the
end of development. It is an association. Everybody there that's
built the buildings are kind of personal. They spend a million plus
in each one of their buildings. They're keeping the properties nice
and in order. We've had many, many opportunities to bring
landscapers in over there, and we deny them. They're just too
something where in the neighborhood where they're saying what
Mr. Soave is saying. We're not going to bring this in, and before
you know, the yard's full of stuff. They're bringing trucks and
trailers right now. He's operating out of the business right now
without a C of 0, which isn't really nothing to do with this, what
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the meeting's about today, I'm trying to get into that matter right
now. How he's working on that building right now without a C of
O. So, I would like to either table it, or well, on behalf of Ray
Zigmont, who's an owner, Jeff Perry Hill, Dan Cohen, myself, and
Phil Monseur are all saying no at this time. As far as this, what
he's requesting. He's operating out of the lot across the street,
which is his dad's lot, doing landscaping out of there. He's got
bulk supplies over there. He's saying one thing and doing
another. I'm just saying. So at this point, I want to table it, or I wish
to table it, or just deny it completely, the request. It's just not going
to fit in the community over there. And I talked to Mr. Rosati today,
Enrico, who I bought it from, and he says it's not what his dream
was for his development either. So, we just want to bring that to
the table as well. He couldn't make it tonight because of his age,
but yeah, that's some concerns we're having over there. And I
didn't, I'm not in there all the time. I'm in here a couple of days a
week because I got other developments I'm doing. So I'll see
what's going on over there. But I think it's part of the new
construction that's going on. So I'm not really paying that close
attention, but then I start getting phone calls from owners saying,
"Hey, we got we got concerns. What's going on down here? The
building's a mess. It's under construction, and he's working a full-
blown business out there, and he's got employees parking down
the street, and he's saying that it's not happening, but this is
what's happening. So, I don't like that. It's just talking on both
sides of his mouth, and it's not a good start into coming into our
development. So, with that said, I won't bother you more.
Mr. Wilshaw: Well, thank you for your comments, Mr. Emling. Appreciate that.
Mr. Emiling: Yep.
Mr. Wilshaw: Anyone else wishing to speak on this item? Do we have one more
person coming forward?
David Ingram, 6386 Weed Road, Plymouth, Michigan. I also own two other
buildings on Rosati, east of the proposed building here tonight,
I've got a good relationship with Rino. You know we've done
things back and forth. My concern prior to this evening was the
storage on the side of the building. I think it's opening a Pandora's
box that you're going to allow storage on the side of a building
with pallet racking. When I heard it was only eight feet, I have a
little less concern. But especially if it's behind the fence, you
know, a solid fence or something. But you know, I own two other
buildings in Livonia, and I've never seen you guys allow side
storage at a building, in general, you know, it's a light industrial
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area. It's at the end of a dead-end street, but I think you're kind of
opening up a little bit of a Pandoras box to allow that to happen
behind the building, fenced in, no problem whatsoever.
Everybody's doing a little bit of that on the street already, so that's
all I have to add to this.
Mr. Wilshaw: I appreciate that, Mr. Ingram. Thank you for speaking. Anyone
else wishing to speak on this item? I don't see anyone else
wishing to speak. Mr. Soave. Is there anything else that you
would like to tell us?
Mr. Soave:
Yeah, just a couple. Just to touch on a couple things. When the
building's done. We don't have staff fully occupied in this building.
I'm not really sure what he's talking about. He has his facts mixed
up, but we don't have a C of 0 yet. We're waiting on DTE.
Building's been made aware of it. We don't have power there, so
obviously you can't operate a building if you don't have power. As
far as like an intrusive use, I'm sure as you know as the
commission knows, Ron who was just up here, I think he owns a
building next door. You know, if it's an intrusive use, we have a
medical marijuana facility. They're growing marijuana next door.
Every time our people pull up there, all you smell is weed. So,
which to me disgusts me, and then going to the north, you smell
weed in the air. You also have, if you guys know or not, you have
the scent of dead bodies being burned in the crematorium across
from us, where this is emitting black smoke in the air. So, not to
water it down, this is a heavy industrial area. think our, like I said,
we're not here operating any employees. So, I hope you guys
take that into consideration. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: All right, thank you, Mr. Soave. Any questions from my
colleagues? Any comments? If not, Mr. Uhazie, I do have a
question about the outdoor racking. It does seem a little...1 don't
recall ever approving outdoor rack systems like this. Is this
something that we have in other sites?
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Wilshaw:
I do not recall approving any specifically in the association with
the special trades contractor. I'm not aware of any offhand.
Okay, those are my thoughts too. I can't think of any time that
that's ever been allowed. Usually that's an indoor type thing.
Okay, all right. Just wanted to ask that. If there's no other
comments or questions from my colleagues, I will close the public
hearing, and a motion is in order.
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On a motion by Ventura, seconded by Bongero, and unanimously adopted, it was
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RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on October 13, 2026, on
Petition 2026-09-02-24, submitted by Infinity Acquisitions, LLC,
requesting waiver use approval under Sections 3.16 and 6.58 of
the Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended, to operate an
outdoor storage facility in connection with a special trades
contractor at 34426 Rosati Avenue, located on the north side of
Rosati Avenue in the southwest '/4 of Section 28, the Planning
Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that
Petition 2026-09-02-24 be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. That the Site Plan received on October 6, 2026 by Infinity
Homes & Co. is hereby approved and shall be adhered to.
2. That a detailed landscape plan shall be submitted to the
satisfaction of the Planning Director.
3. That all landscaped and sodded areas shall be permanently
maintained in a healthy condition.
4. That the dumpster enclosure gates shall be of solid panel
steel construction or durable, long-lasting solid panel
fiberglass and maintained and when not in use closed at all
times.
5. That all light fixtures shall not exceed twenty feet (20') in
height and shall be aimed and shielded so as to minimize
stray light trespassing across property lines and glaring into
adjacent roadways.
6. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition,
and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for
review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals.
7. That the visitor and employee parking spaces shown on the
site plan shall be double striped, including the provision of
barrier free parking, and all regular parking spaces shall be
ten feet (10') wide by twenty feet (20') in length, as required.
8. That the outdoor storage of trailers, cranes, commercial
vehicles, contractors' equipment and materials shall be
limited to the designated locations as shown on the above
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referenced Site Plan and shall be maintained in an orderly
manner; and
9. That there shall be no outdoor storage of disabled or
inoperative equipment and vehicles, scrap material, debris
or other similar items.
FURTHER RESOLVED, That notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 13.13 of the
Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go onto City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #3 PETITION 2026-09-02-25 36555 Amrhein LLC
Mr. Droze, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda Petition
2026-09-02-25 submitted by 36555 Amrhein LLC, requesting
waiver use approval under Section 3.16 of the Livonia Zoning
Ordinance, as amended, to operate a truck and trailer storage
facility at 36555 Amrhein Road, located on the south side of
Amrhein Road between Levan Road and Globe Street in the
northwest of Section 29.
Mr. Uhazie:
Thank you. This is a request to operate the outdoor truck and
trailer storage facility on several parts of this parcel, or these two
parcels in question. The location is on the south side of Amhrein
between Globe and Levan. The total site size is about 13 acres
with 677 feet of frontage along Amhrein Road by a depth of 326
feet. The existing zoning is M-1. The site does have a large
existing industrial building measuring about 140,000 square feet
in size. The property includes existing paved parking to the east,
drive aisles, loading and maneuvering areas, and access to
Amhrein shown here on the existing aerial. The western portion
of the overall site consists primarily of open land for parking that
is not paved. The site is situated within an established industrial
area and is surrounded by properties designated for
manufacturing industrial uses. North across Amhrein is an
asphalt mixing plant located within the M-2 zoning district. To the
south and west consists of various industrial uses that are located
within the M-1 district. And then to the east is the Roush Engine
facilities, zoned M-2, as well. The ordinance does require that
truck stops, truck and trailer rental, and/or storage facilities and
vehicle tow yards are treated as a waiver -use in the M-1 district.
Mr. Wilshaw:
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And then, if you give me a second to bring this up, okay. So, this
is a little confusing, but I will walk through it. There are two parcels
as part of this petition, and then as part of it is a connection with
a lot split and recombination. So, this is the zoomed -in site plan,
showing the three different uses. To the right is the existing
industrial building shown here, and parcel one is the eastern half,
and then the western portion here is parcel two. Parcel one is
proposed to be split into parcel A and B. Parcel A would be the
existing industrial building, which would be about seven acres in
size, and it would include the industrial building along with the
parking to the east, and be occupied by Beaver Aerospace.
Parcel B would be five acres in the center of the proposal. It would
contain no buildings. They would add an additional drive, so the
existing drive aisle is shown here, and then they are proposing
additional drive aisle here for access to parcel B. The new drive
aisle would provide access directly to Amhrein, and the proposed
use is for leasing of truck and trailer storage, and the site plan
shows it would fit up to 55 tractor trailers. Parcel two is 1.8 acres
in size, all the way to the west. It shows parking for 44 tractor
trailers. And it would be leased by Roush Performance. Access
would be provided via a new 15-foot drive connecting to the
south. There is a proposed fence shown here where the two
colors meet, separating parcel two from the rest of the site. There
are no other improvements proposed on this site as part of this
petition. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can read out the departmental
correspondence.
Yes, please.
The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated September
28, 2026, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your
request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above
referenced petition. We have no objections to the proposed
waiver use at this time, but would like to note the following items:
1. The subject parcels are currently assigned the addresses of
#36555 Amrhein Road and #12318 Globe Road. The parcels are
in the process of being combined and split into a new
configuration. Once that is complete, the proposed storage lot will
be located on a parcel with the address of #36663 Amrhein Road.
If additional addresses are required, the owner will need to
contact this department once approvals have been granted. 2.
The existing parcel is currently serviced by public sanitary sewer,
water main and storm sewer. We do not believe there will be any
adverse effects on the existing systems with the proposed usage.
3. Should the owner decide to pave the existing gravel storage
lot, the owner/developer will need to submit engineering drawings
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to this department for permitting. All new paved areas will need
to conform to the current Waye County Storm Water Ordinance."
The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Assistant City
Engineer. The next letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue
Division, dated October 6, 2026, which reads as follows: "This
office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with the
new construction and use of the property located at the above
referenced address. Quality of plan set submitted was low,
difficulty deciphering landmarks and intent of use of this property.
Plan Property Descriptions were difficult to read and interpret.
Concerns listed below: 1. Will the existing building be utilized and
what will its use entail and/or what are the contents within the
structure? If building is sprinkled and monitored by an alarm
company, bring up to current code and maintain operations and
certifications of the systems. 2. Truck and trailer storage — How
long will a truck and/or trailer remain on site? Will the trailers
contain cargo as part of the storage? Lithium -ion batteries may
not be stored in trailers. 3. Fire department access roads — If
storage areas are not paved, what provisions are being made to
support the weight of fire apparatus in the event of a fire or
emergency access is required. Code supports Fire Department
Access Roads. 4. Need clarity on accessibility for emergency
vehicles to various parts of this property. 5. "Proposed Fence" —
Any access points (gated) or strictly separation of areas? 6. Fire
hydrant location(s)? A further detailed plan review will take place
when this division receives an official plan set." The letter is
signed by Brian Kukla, Fire Marshal. The next letter is from the
Division of Police, dated September 24, 2026, which reads as
follows: "1 have reviewed the plans in connection with the petition.
I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by
Brendan Adams, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The next letter is from
the Inspection Department, dated October 6, 2026, which reads
as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above -referenced
Petition has been reviewed. 1. The proposed parking area must
be hard surfaced. Pavement type and thickness must be
approved by the City Engineer prior to construction, taking into
consideration soil conditions and traffic loadings. The
requirement of hard surfacing may be waived by Council. If
waived, a plan shall be in place to provide maintenance and dust
control. This Department has no further objections to this
Petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna, Director of
Inspection. The next letter is from the Finance Department, dated
September 28, 2026, which reads as follows: "I have reviewed
the addresses connected with the above noted petition. The
following amounts are due to the City of Livonia: Unpaid water
and sewer charges: (Customer name on record - Louis 1884
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Investments Inc) Total Due City of Livonia $ 346.45." The letter is
signed by Ermon Sims, Chief Accountant. The next letter is from
the Treasurer's Department, dated September 22, 2026, which
reads as follows: "The owner of the property is current on the
property taxes." The letter is signed by Susie Nash, Treasurer.
That is the extent of the correspondence.
Mr. Wilshaw: Are there any questions for planning staff?
Mr. Bongero: Jake, at the study meeting, the petitioner seemed very
apprehensive to have a paved area, and I see Mr. Hanna said it
should be paved. Are they proposing crushed concrete? Is that
what I understand?
Mr. Uhazie:
As part of the petition, they are proposing crushed concrete. The
ordinance requires it to be hard surfaced. Again, that provision
can be waived by city council if they so choose.
Mr. Bongero: Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Bongero. Any other questions for staff, Mr.
Droze?
Mr. Droze: Mr. Uhazie. So, looking at the package that's been sent, I
understand there's a lot split and different uses. There's work
already going on at the building. Is that correct?
Mr. Uhazie: Well, the building is under renovation, I believe, to accept their
new occupant of Beaver Aerospace.
Mr. Droze: Okay.
Mr. Uhazie: That part is not associated with this actual petition.
Mr. Droze: Not here. Okay, all right. I wanted to clear that up, and I guess,
you know, the comment that was made about the plans being
difficult to read and you know some of the detail lacking, I would
agree with generally. It seems you know things that we would
normally looking for fence types and locations and, you know,
some discussion about you know about whether hard surfacing
happens or not, because I would imagine that's going to have a
significant impact on site plan if they have to do hard surfacing
because that's going to require stormwater. Do you feel like this
is complete enough to be looking at? Because it does feel like
there's a lot of big questions that, you know, I mean, they're not
really proposing a whole lot here, to be honest. And taking a little
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Uhazie:
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time to sharpen pencils and you know giving us something that
we can actually read would be, I think, helpful.
I think that's a reasonable request. I think ultimately it comes
down to the details of the hard surfacing, because that would
require a lot more detail than what would be required for just the
storage. I think that's probably a discussion with the petitioner of
how they feel, or if they're comfortable with if they think that
council will approve that hard surface, or they're willing to take
that risk, I guess.
Because I mean, it seems like relative to the use, this is really
kind of supplemental parking. It seems like largely, you know,
related to the Roush use and you know whatever the middle use
is going to be.
Correct. It is just basically more intense parking. It does appear
in the past it was used for storage of parking of cars, and this
would just require, you know, more intense of just larger vehicles,
but the zoning ordinance does require for any sort of larger
vehicles that it does have to come through the waiver -use
process of approval, And again, that would be the opportunity to
get that site into conforming with the code to have that that area
paved if we were going to approve that waiver -use.
Mr. Droze: Right. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Uhazie. Thank
you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Thank you, Mr. Droze. Any other questions for staff? If not, our
petitioner is in the audience, I believe. If you would like to come
forward and speak to this item, I'd appreciate that. Good evening,
sir.
Chris Haboian, 31745 Auburn Hills Drive, Beverly Hills, MI. I'm general counsel of
J.B. Donaldson. We are a developer and contractor based in
Farmington Hills, and we recently bought this property in mid -
August. We are currently putting in a little over $10 million into
updating the former contractor steel building, and rehabbing it for
Beaver Aerospace, which is a French defense contractor. We are
here to request waiver -use approval for the western caught half
of the site. We would be requesting it in order to do truck and
trailer storage in it. We would be requesting the waiver on paving.
We think the subgrade, given our diligence and the prior use, can
support this use, and we would be fine grading the site and using
21 double A crushed concrete to fill some of that. If there are any
questions, I'd love to answer them.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Bongero:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Bongero:
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Thank you, Mr. Haboian. Appreciate your presentation. Let's see
if there's any questions. Any questions for the petitioners'
representative?
Between the two lots, what do you see in terms of daily traffic in
and out for trucks?
I don't think we'd be getting -I mean, more than a handful each
day on the middle, call it the middle part, that'll be the eastern half
of the parking that we're looking for, that's going to be...trucks
and trailers are going to basically be there for weeks at a time
likely, maybe a little bit longer occasionally, maybe less. So,
there's not going to be a lot of flow going in and out of there. The
Roush portion, I would imagine, is going to be pretty similar,
maybe a little bit more active, but they're going to be going directly
from that lot south into their existing lot, so it wouldn't be coming
out to Amhrein or through the rest of the site.
So, that Roush lot would be...the use of that would be tied to the
parcel to the south that Roush currently operates or owns.
We would be...there's currently a fence back there, and we'd be,
for lack of a better term, cutting a hole in it, and I think we have
15 feet wide on the site plan, and they'd be able to drive their
trucks directly in between those slots.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Droze. Any other questions?
Good evening. The 21AA have you had experience with that
before for a parking surface?
We have used it in the past, I don't know if we've used it...I'm not
aware of us using it for like truck storage and protection.
I'm just having a hard time thinking it's going to hold up. You know
what I mean? What's the idea of wanting that and not pavement?
Is it mostly expense?
It's the expense. If we have to bring it up to the 100-year level,
it's...we can't do anything on this site. It's just too big. It'd be a
massive, massive cost. We own, as I mentioned, I mean, our
company, we own the rest of this site. We are a local owner
developer. We own buildings mostly throughout Southeast
Michigan. We've owned them for a long time. We invest in them.
We want this site to be as good as anybody here does. We don't
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want it to be an eyesore, you know. I think a little activity here
would be good. It would be, you know, more tax revenue for the
area, which we hope would be a benefit. But again, we own that
site next door. We're going to be looking at it every day and
investing in it.
Mr. Bongero: Okay. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Thank you, Mr. Bongero. Any other questions for the petitioner?
No other questions. Is there anyone in the audience wishing to
speak on this item? Sure, ma'am. Feel free to come up to the
podium. Good evening.
Margaret Bazerko, here on behalf of RMB Properties. I'm the managing member.
RMB Properties owns two adjacent properties to the petitioner's
property: 36704 Commerce and 36740 commerce. We've been
there for 30 years, so this is a formal objection and request to
postpone the decision until a full environmental and code
compliance investigation is completed. I've received two notices
of migration on September 23, which states that trichloroethylene
exceeding EGLE permissible levels is present at the property in
the soil and groundwater, and TCE is a volatile organic
compound, and because it vaporizes easily, its migration onto my
property introduces potential vapor intrusion risks for my
buildings, and my property has been immediately devalued as a
result. Under the waiver -use standards, you must evaluate
whether a business negatively affects neighboring property
values and public safety. And what I've just heard here from Mr.
Uhazie, if I got the numbers correct, 55 trucks and in one parcel
and 54 in another. That's a constant influx of heavy semi -trucks,
and I think that could physically disturb the soil, impact monitoring
wells, and exacerbate subsurface migration. So, adding that high
impact semi -truck lot on top of an active chemical plume risks
further soil disruption and permanent devaluation of my buildings.
And in addition, I'm there every day watching what's going on,
and the occupants already conducting loud and intrusive digging
and renovations without a final zoning approval, the soil's already
being disrupted. So, this shows a disregard for local code
compliance. I do have the notice I'd like to submit to be a part of
the record, a part of the file, and I request that the commission
postpone a decision until a full investigation by the city's building
and environmental departments can be completed. Thank you.
Can I approach to submit this?
Mr. Wilshaw: Yes, Ms. Bazerko, if you'd like to give that to our planning staff,
they'll make sure it gets included in our packet. Thank you for
Ms. Bazerko:
Mr. Wilshaw:
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your presentation. Was there anything else you wanted to say, or
you're all set?
I think I'm all set. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you for your presentation. Appreciate that. All right.
Anybody else in the audience wishing to speak on this item? If
not, our petitioner does get the last word. If there's anything that
you would like to say in regard to where we're at so far?
Mr. Haboian: Yes, just a few things I'd like to clarify. This building is a
contaminated building, just like honestly most of properties of this
sort in Livonia are, and we are dealing with it. We did a phase
one ESA, we did a phase two ESA, including soil sampling
throughout the property. We actually just recently submitted our
baseline environmental assessment to the state, our BEA. In
connection with that, you do file a notice of migration to adjoining
property owners. Anybody in our situation filing these does have
to submit a notice of migration. It does not mean that pollution is
actively going into somebody's property, but it is a notice that, just
like her property, there is old contamination on it. We are, as I
said, doing work on our building currently, we're working through
plans and permits with the city, and we're not ahead of any of that
at all. And yeah, I just wanted to note that we are filing all, dotting
all our I's and crossing all our t's. We've used AKT Peerless to do
our environmental investigations and have lots of evidence to
back it all up.
Mr. Wilshaw: Alright, thank you, Mr. Haboian. A couple of questions for you
before you leave. I just wanted to ask about the property access
to these lots. We're going to, I guess, call them parcel one and
parcel two. Parcel one being the one that's immediately west of
your, the Beaver building. That access is coming off of Amhrein
Road. Is there going to be a gate to that area, or is it open?
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Haboian:
There will be a gate.
Okay, and how is someone going to get in and out of that gate if
there's a truck? What trucks are parking there? Is it Beaver
Trucks?
We would be leasing it to a company, so they would have a code
or a card. But it would be leased. It wouldn't be a...it wouldn't be
like Airbnb style where one truck comes in. It would be leased to
a company that would have their fleet there.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Haboian:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Haboian:
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Okay, and then the parcel two, which I believe is the one for
Roush. That will have access to the rear of one of Roush's
buildings. Is that just going to be an open access?
That'll be open access, and then they'll go out to Globe Street.
Okay, and then lighting. I didn't hear a lot of talk about that. Is
there going to be on -site lighting?
There's some existing on -site lighting, and we'll be installing new
bulbs and whatnot, but it's already there.
Okay
We did submit a photometric plan to the city as well.
Okay, and will there be any overnighting of vehicles at any of
these lots, in terms of a truck driver who's, you know, timed out
on his hours, just pulling in there to rest, or are these going to be
unattended vehicles?
No, these are going to be...these are not going to be a rest stop.
These are going to be up for long term. You know, again, Roush
it'll...I don't know exactly how long their trucks will be there, but
for the western half it'll be longer term storage of those trucks and
trailers.
Okay, so these are unattended vehicles.
Yeah. Nobody will be sitting in there for hours at a time or
anything.
Okay. That's the only questions I had for the moment. Anything
else from my colleagues while you're up here for our petitioner?
Good evening. The fire marshal has listed a number of concerns,
and I'd like to hear your responses. So, you say that trailers will
be there for a while. What do you what do you anticipate the time
that a trailer would be there?
On the western half, we anticipate truck trailers to be there for
one to several weeks at a time, maybe a little bit longer, but
they're not going to be... it's not going to be a year at a time, it's
not going to be a day at a time.
Mr. Ventura:
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All right. My experience with these is that many times trailers will
come in, and after a year they're junk. How are you going to police
that?
This is not going to be a junkyard. As mentioned, we're going to
be... we're investing a significant amount of money into the
adjacent property to rehab it and make it a world class facility for
a French aerospace company.
Mr. Ventura: Will these trailers be empty or will they be loaded?
Mr. Haboian: There will be no cargo.
Mr. Ventura: No cargo. Okay. How will you assure yourself of that?
Mr. Haboian: It'll have to be a policy. I don't know that we'd be...we're not a
customs agency. We're not going to be inspecting every single
truck, but that'll be part of our lease with that company.
And so, the whole thing will be leased to one company.
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Haboian:
The western half of the parking would. The or the western half
would be Roush. The eastern...the middle half would be one
company. Yeah, we're not going to be self-operating it and having
individual truckers come in. It's going to be one company, that's
it.
Mr. Ventura: The fire marshal is concerned about access roads for fire
equipment and the maintenance of those roads. How do you
propose to accomplish that?
Mr. Haboian: We're going to fine grade and install the crushed concrete. The
site has a long history of similar uses and very heavy uses. Our
diligence provides evidence that the subgrade should be able to
support it fine. The gate at the entrance will have to be made to
accommodate fire. My engineering folks know what you have to
do for that, but of course we comply with code at the entrance,
and then on the Roush site, there won't be a fence, there won't
be a gate. It'll pull right in.
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay, thank you, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Mr. Ventura. Any other questions for our petitioner.
All right, I think we have heard from our petitioner. We've heard
from our audience, and we've heard from my colleagues. And a
motion now is in order.
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Mr. Ventura: I do have a couple of questions for Mr. Uhazie at this point.
Mr. Wilshaw: Go ahead.
Mr. Ventura: How is groundwater runoff managed on a on a gravel lot? How is
stormwater rather?
Mr. Uhazie: I don't know the details of...1 would imagine that it's permeable,
just like through any other groundwater that's not paved. I would
imagine also that the site is subject to what the stormwater
ordinance was whenever this was developed originally. That's
why any changes would require it to be up to the standards of
today.
Mr. Ventura: Okay, and so we...but we have no detail here saying that.
Mr. Uhazie: No.
Mr. Ventura: And since this is going to be a crushed concrete lot, what kinds
of steps can we require of the developer to assure ourselves that
the fire lanes will be established and maintained? I mean, I can
see this is an unsupervised lot. Somebody could come in and
drop a trailer, not knowing that this is supposed to be a fire lane.
How is that? How do we...
Mr. Uhazie:
I don't know. That might be something that we would have to have
further discussions with the fire marshal about. I. don't know how
they typically have handled that in the past with storage yards.
Mr. Ventura: Okay, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Ventura:
Thank you, Mr. Ventura. You do raise an interesting question in
terms of how does... you know, we're looking at a lot with lines
on it, and you know you're not painting lines on gravel.
So, I tend to agree with Mr. Drozes that we're preliminary with
this. I feel like there's not enough detail here for us to answer and
be assured that we have the answers to a number of these
concerns that have been raised by our staff.
Mr. Wilshaw: Alright.
Mr. Bongero: My concern would be if it's anything other than paved. I wouldn't
be for it. 1 think it's got to be paved.
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Mr. Wilshaw: Appreciate those comments. We are at the point where the public
hearing has been closed. A motion is in order.
On a motion by Droze, seconded by Bongero, and unanimously adopted, it was
#10-68-2026
RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on October 13, 2026, on
Petition 2026-09-02-25 submitted by 36555 Amrhein LLC,
requesting waiver use approval under Section 3.16 of the Livonia
Zoning Ordinance, as amended, to operate a truck and trailer
storage facility at 36555 Amrhein Road, located on the south side
of Amrhein Road between Levan Road and Globe Street in the
northwest '/4 of Section 29., the Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2026-09-2-25
be denied for the following reasons:
1. That the petitioner has failed to affirmatively show that the
proposed use is in compliance with all the special and
general waiver use standards and requirements;
2. That the petitioner has failed to sufficiently demonstrate that
the site has the capacity to accommodate the proposed use;
3. That the proposed storage of trailers, equipment and
materials will be detrimental to the maintenance of the site
in an orderly and satisfactory condition and would be a
deterrent to the Tong -term stability of this area; and,
4. That the surrounding properties in the immediate proximity
of the subject property will be adversely affected by the
outdoor storage.
FURTHER RESOLVED, That notice of the above hearing was
given in accordance with the provisions of Section 13.13 of
Livonia Vision 21 Zoning Ordinance, as amended.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
ITEM #4 PETITION 2026-08-06-02 City Planning Comm.
Mr. Droze, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda Petition
2026-08-06-02 submitted by the City Planning Commission,
pursuant to the referral by the City Council to determine whether
Mr. Uhazie:
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to add Section 13.16 to establish the means and reasoning for
the creation of moratoria pertaining to specific zoning uses within
the City of Livonia.
Thank you. I don't have much to add to this other than just
reiterating a little bit of history on how we got here. There's been
lots of discussion with some items on council about enacting a
moratorium on certain land uses and at the advice of the Law
Department they recommended putting that process into a formal
amendment to the zoning ordinance to ensure the city follows all
the legal requirements. If we were to implement any future
moratoria, this is that portion of the language for that to allow the
city council to it. One thing to note is we've discussed in the past
is that any moratorium would not be a permanent ban. It would
be for a set time period that would expire. The city council would
have one opportunity to extend it for a set amount of time. But it
is not an ongoing thing that can just prohibit that use. It has to do
be for something that is being studied and considered as a new
use and allow the city council additional time to understand that
topic, make a final decision of how that would be treated as a land
use. No other changes have been proposed since we've last
discussed this. No language changes have been made since we
last discussed this.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, and no correspondence has come in on this item.
Mr. Uhazie: Correct.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, and just to clarify, we are not enacting a moratorium or
moratoria by drafting this ordinance. This is simply creating that
framework that then the council would use if they wish to do a
moratorium in the future.
Mr. Uhazie: Correct. It would give council a more legally defensible way to
enact a moratorium if they chose.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, thank you. This petition is generated by the Planning
Commission. We are the petitioner in this case, so we don't have
a petitioner to present. So, I'm going to go to my colleagues. Is
there anything that my colleagues...any questions or concerns
they have that they would like to address at this point?
Mr. Droze: We met with the city attorney at our study session. We asked the
question about whether applicants could still advance projects
within the normal process, going to PC and you know maybe not
getting to council, and I think I understood that that was allowed.
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Wilshaw:
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Like, you could still submit, but you might have to wait until the
moratoria ends. That was my understanding.
That was my understanding as well. Yes.
Okay, and I guess to that point, I guess under section two, and I
apologize for not catching this earlier, but there is a line that says
city council may enact a zoning moratorium via ordinance that
temporarily prohibits the acceptance or approval of applications.
Is that acceptance as in we accepted this project as okay or
accepted in the process? And maybe that's one where you can
just get rid of or prohibit the approval of applications. That would
be...
I think that would be more, again based off of what the attorney
said...so I would probably have to defer to what he was referring
to, just because he would have a better understanding of the legal
framework of what's required to enact this. But I think your
proposal of just the approval of applications would seem more
reasonable based off of what we were told at the last meeting.
Okay, because that would still, I guess, as I as I read it, you know,
it could be up to a year of moratorium, and then with the potential
extension, but if you're allowed to still kind of submit and move
through that process and wait, then you're not losing a whole, you
know, full year in that process. So, okay, thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Drose. Mr. Ventura, I believe you are next.
Yeah, I guess I have to say that I'm not comfortable with this
action on the part of the City Council. Livonia has always been a
city that has been, to choose a phrase, open for business, and
we enjoy a reputation for low taxes, and we have low taxes
because we have strong development, and we have strong
development because we have embraced a broad range of
different kinds of commercial and industrial and other kinds of
economic activity in the city, and we've never hung up a sign that
says we're not open for business. City councils historically have
responded to the challenges of a new use by digging in and
figuring out what to do about it. And Mr. Droze pointed out
paragraph two here, where it says City Council of Livonia finds
that a particular land use potentially threatens. Well, I don't know
how a city council can find that a land use potentially threatens
without some study, and these things don't come out of the ether.
There's a process by which they end up in front of the city council,
and they start here, and they really, actually, start in our in our
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Bongero:
Mr. Wilshaw:
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Planning Department with our planning staff, and so they don't
burst upon the city council by surprise, and we've never had an
ordinance such as this in the past that has completely
circumvented the whole process that we have in place in the city,
that has been very successful in producing a very enviable
community, and so I'm not in favor of this at all. I think it's a
mistake. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you for your comments. Anything else from my
colleagues? I do want to go to the audience as well and see...
A quick comment to piggyback off Mr. Ventura. It's like, why are
we trying to reinvent the wheel? It's been working this long. I
guess, I think that's your point, Pete. It's like Livonia...I love this
community. I think it's very welcoming, and I just don't see a need
for this myself either. That's all I gotta say.
Okay. Are all my colleagues settled for the moment? All right. Is
there anyone in the audience wishing to speak on this item. If so,
feel free to come forward.
Jerry Karasinski, 1948 Bainbridge Avenue, Livonia, MI. I'd like to address that point
that Mr. Ventura brought up. Why would we want a moratorium
ordinance when we haven't needed one in the past. Well, certain
land uses today are much more controversial than they were in
the past. They're much more complex than they were in the past.
We need only look at data centers, and some of the discussion
at the meeting about the actual ordinance and definition of what
a data center is versus a data processing facility or a computer
room in an office building. So, as our society and our technology
has gotten more complex, I think it really does overwhelm City
Council to deal with some of these items, and to have this as a
way of slowing things down so that they could have the time to
address it is an appropriate risk management technique. Yeah,
it's unfortunate that we would have to even consider having this
kind of an ordinance, but I do believe, from my standpoint, being
able to manage risk is the most important reason why you would
want to have this ordinance. So, thank you, and I do appreciate
those comments and that discussion.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you, Mr. Karazinski. Hi. Good evening, ma'am.
Natalie corner of Mayfield and Brookfield, Livonia, MI. I don't like to reveal my exact
address, but thank you for taking the time to hear me out tonight.
I don't have much. I was hoping to clarify one point as I did attend
the meeting on the 22nd, which, from my understanding, 1 believe
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it was like nine or 10 ordinances were tabled at that time. So, I
just...are we discussing a separate ordinance, or is what we're
discussing does that umbrella, you know, what we discussed on
the 22"d?
I understand what you're talking about. You're referring to the
data center ordinance that we had at our previous meeting. This
is a totally separate ordinance that has nothing to do with that.
These were both created or the genesis of these two ordinances,
both the data center ordinance and now this moratorium
ordinance, were both referred to us by the City Council, and there
is certainly some overlap in the sense that there was talk at this
city council about enacting a moratorium for data centers, but this
ordinance for moratoriums is not specific to data centers.
Ms. Natalie: Okay.
Mr. Wilshaw: It could be used for that. It could be used for any other potential
use that the City Council wishes to use it for. So, I just want
to... hopefully that makes sense.
Ms. Natalie: Yes, thank you for that.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yeah, we're not going to talk about the other stuff from the other
day.
Ms. Natalie: Okay, I appreciate that clarification.
Mr. Wilshaw: That will be coming down the road.
Ms. Natalie: Okay, all right, nothing further. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay, great. Thank you. Appreciate you coming tonight. Anybody
else in the audience wishing to speak on this item of moratorium?
If not, I'm going to go back to my colleague's. Mr. Uhazie.
Mr. Uhazie:
One thing I do want to note, based off of the last comments and
some of the comments from the commissioners, is that one of the
reasons that the Law Department recommended this ordinance
be formalized because Livonia has been historically a welcoming
community. One thing that is called out specifically here is that
it's the item that is...the land use that would be proposed for a
moratorim would need to threaten the public health, safety,
welfare of the citizens of Livonia, and that is a potential threat that
is not adequately addressed by current ordinances. So, what this
does is also set up a framework to prevent future councils from
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saying we want to do a moratorium for whatever because we
don't like it. This would basically state that any moratoria has to
be for something that is impacting possible health safety. It gives
language so that any moratorium has to have justifiable public
health impacts that are not currently met by the ordinance. So, it
does make it so that in a weird way, it does allow the City Council
to or prevent the City Council from being less welcoming in the
future. If that makes sense. It would basically say that the
moratorium is required to ensure the safety of the residents, as
opposed to just saying because we don't like it.
Mr. Wilshaw: It has to be something that's not already addressed by current
ordinance?
Mr. Uhazie: Correct, yes.
Mr. Wilshaw: Which is a key point as well.
Mr. Uhazie: Yes.
Mr. Wilshaw: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you for those comments. I think that's
helpful. We've heard from the audience, any additional discussion
from my colleagues?
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Uhazie:
Chair, thank you. So, you know, I do kind of think about obviously
these things came together along with the data center language
that we got a couple weeks ago, and I think you know in that case,
you know we've been able to put together I think a pretty decent
edit to the ordinance that covers a lot of the concerns. I don't
know, Jacob?. Do you know how long did that take to put together
the edits? Basically start to finish. I guess what I'm getting at is
like the one year moratorium. Does it need to be a full one year?
Could it be six months that you could have additional
installments? Because that's a long time.
It certainly didn't take a year to accumulate that stuff. I think the
year was based off of ...it's more of giving time for like that data
to come out, you know, for the data center thing in particular. It
did take some digging into the kinds of things that other
communities are dealing with on the forefront. I think it just...the
year was chosen so that it's enough time for communities to be
impacted, and we can actually find data. If it was too short of a
time, we may not have enough time to, or there may not be
enough data available to really make an accurate evaluation. But
there's nothing set in stone that I understand that would say like
it has to be a year. It can be a shorter amount of time, and it
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Droze:
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certainly did not take the a year for us to write the full ordinance
for the data centers. If that's what you're asking.
And then, you know, on the basis of health, safety, welfare, you
know, I guess I'm curious. You know, is that something that a
council would request the Law Department, to evaluate and then
come back with a report, or is that a matter of they make the
decision at a meeting that you know that the feeling, and therefore
we're going to issue the moratorium.
I think they would discuss it. I think legal would advise them on
what constitutes health safety, and I think ultimately council can
decide what they want to do. But it just opens them up to more
legal action if they did go forward. Ultimately, they would refer to
law to decide if ifs legally defensible of what we're proposing
does constitute a public health threat versus just a perceived
threat.
Yeah, because I mean...what's being discussed here in the
document, it's a good process, but I can also see that there's just
for every point in here, there's probably 10 questions that people
could ask about you know...we just had the site that came up that
talked about you know groundwater contamination. Well, soil
contamination is a thing, but we're not specifically listing it here.
Not to say we need to. There are just the things that we don't...we
can't predict. You know that could be in the future, and so I guess
that would be the concern that I have is that, you know, taking a
little bit of time to make a good decision and edit the ordinance
so it's in a way that's thoughtful. But that's the other thing we don't
want to rush it and then have unintended consequences, like we
talked about at the data center meeting about the
telecommunication infrastructure. Like, do we somehow create a
situation where we create a bunch of uses that, you know, need
to be grandfathered out? So, I get that, but I guess the concerns
are still many. But I think my main thing is some sort of instrument
to make sure that it is a process that's used sparingly, and we're
using our, you know, our various departments and our experts
within the city, like we did with the data center ordinance, to make
the right decisions for the future.
Yeah, I think we can definitely, you know, as I think Eric said last
time, sharpen our pencils and provide some more detail.
Ultimately, I think the overall goal of it is to set up that framework
that gives us a legally defensible thing, so we can probably
provide more details to make sure it's detailed enough that we
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can...that future councils understand what they need to do to
make that legally defensible.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Drose. Any other questions,
comments?
Mr. Ventura: Mr. Uhazie, walk me through this legal review that you just made
reference to. How does this work? A petition comes forward and
says, "I want to do X". Now, as I understand our process today,
every petition is not referred to the law department.
Mr. Uhazie: No, I'm just referring. So, if...
Mr. Ventura: Well, let me finish. So, if potentially use X is referred to the Law
Department, how does the Law Department in the position to
determine whether it's a threat to the public welfare? They're not
scientifically based. They're a Law Department. So, what places
them in the position to make this judgment? What happens then?
Who ultimately makes this judgment, and what happens to the
petitioner while this deliberation is going on?
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
I guess what I'm referring to more of this is if City Council decided
to enact a moratorium, say they wanted to enact a moratorium of
chicken restaurants, this would make it so that you can't just enact
a moratorium. The city would have to defend in court if they were
sued, the law department would basically have to defend that we
consider chicken restaurants a public health safety concern.
That's what I'm saying when they refer to the law department, not
during the review of the actual application, but during the review
of like whether a moratorium is enacted. So, it would ultimately
be up to council to say we would like to put a moratorium on
chicken restaurants. This I would imagine is how it would go, is
that legal would say we don't have the legal justification to say
that this is a public health. Not that because of X, Y, and Z, but
this would be for legal reasons. We can't define this as a public
health. We would recommend defining this as a public health
issue. It's more about... it's not that they are declaring that it's
public. It's making it from a legally defensible point of view,
I understand that, and I thank you for your explanation, but I'm
talking about something that's not so transparently wrong as
trying to ban a chicken restaurant. How are they going to
determine that something is a threat to the public welfare when
it's not been demonstrated in any way. I mean, the data center
debate is much in the news nationwide. Okay, there's a
tremendous amount of misinformation flying around out there, but
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Uhazie:
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as it relates to the City of Livonia, the kind of data center that
happened in Saline, for example, cannot happen here, and
everybody knows that. So that's not a threat to us. And so having
a having an ordinance that regulates that kind of installation is -it's
an interesting exercise, but it's not going to be applicable ever in
this city. But there's a great deal, a great body of knowledge flying
around in social media and serious publications about that topic.
What happens to a subject that comes to us, potentially to the city
council, that doesn't have all that information out there?
If it doesn't have the information out, that's why...that's when we
would be able to put the moratorium in to understand those
effects.
How do you make a determination that you need a moratorium is
my point if the information isn't out there. I mean, the gentleman
spoke to data centers tonight. There's a million and a half or 10
million words out there about it. This is something else that they're
determining that it's going to be a threat to the public health and
welfare.
But it would be council to determine whether they feel it is. My
understanding of it is that it's their determination to whether they
feel it is, and then the law department would determine if it is a
defensible position to prevent a lawsuit.
It may turn out that during that moratorium time, it was determined
that we do not need to change the ordinance because that use
would not affect the public health, but it would give us that time to
make that determination. But we are certainly able to go into law
and have them, you know, put in more detail of what they would
be, how they would determine the public health.
Mr. Ventura: Yeah, I'm of a mind with Mr. Droze that I'm not comfortable with
the language.
Mr. Uhazie: I mean, this did come down with the data centers originally, so I
mean, data centers are coming back up on the agenda soon. We
can certainly go back and you know bring these two items back
together and go back to law and make sure that we can more
clearly define the threats to public health.
Mr. Bongero: So, some like the EVs could fall under this too if they deem it's a
health risk.
Mr. Uhazie: Correct.
Mr. Bongero:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Bongero:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Bongero:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Bongero:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
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But then that would blanket all applications coming in, right?
Yes. All EV chargers. Yes. If that was the case, they put in the
moratorium because they thought that there was a fire hazard.
While they gathered more information, that would probably
then...once that information was gathered, they would make the
decision of how in one year.
In one year?
Yes.
But then if they still don't have enough information, they can say
we need another six months.
Six months, yes, and then they would have to make that
determination.
Okay.
So, a question on where we're at right now. If the...let's just say
that the city does not have this ordinance on moratoria's. which
we don't currently, but the City Council feels they want to enact a
moratorium because of either a real risk that may be present or a
perceived risk because of moral outrage that's happening by, you
know, a cadre of people coming in and saying we need to stop
this, which has been happening as of late in recent years. If the
council does not have this tool available to them, what basis
would they have to make a moratorium at this point?
It is my understanding that they could still enact a moratorium if
they decided so. It would open them up to more legal challenges
by not having this framework. Basically, saying here's how we do
it, here's the time period we're doing this. This was set up as just
a way to formally make that policy.
Sure, and that's where I'm going. Is if the city council wishes to
enact a moratorium right now on data centers or chicken
restaurants or whatever flavor of the week we have in the media,
they can do so by simple council resolution currently, but in doing
so, it's a weaker position for the city.
Mr. Uhazie: Correct.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
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Because we don't have a legal framework that has been followed
to say this is a process that we have in place. This is a procedure.
These are criteria that we have to meet. Some of these criteria
noted in this ordinance are, you know, things that harm health by,
you know, damaging environment, drinking water, air pollution,
and so on. Those would be reasons that fortify their temporary
halt of these uses.
Correct.
What if they do it now, then they're on less stable ground?
It doesn't mean they couldn't do it, but it just, yeah, it makes the
argument less compelling, I guess, from a legal standpoint.
Which we've, you know, seen examples of in the recent past in
neighboring communities such as Saline, who did try blocking a
data center, for example, and failed in court because they didn't
have that firm foundation to stand on.
I think one thing that the legal department has...one of the
reasons they recommended this is going back to Pete's original
point of Livonia has historically been open to many uses and dealt
with it at that time. I think there was concern that if you put a
moratoria on, say, for data centers, which could be a very, very
likely a legally justifiable one, does that open the floodgates for
future councils to, you know, start the slippery slope? We did the
data centers, we can do car washes. Then we'll do chicken
places, and it kind of gets looser from there. This would tie their
hands in the future more to say you really got to do it for
something that's for public health. You can't just implement
whatever you want.
And you know, I don't want to delve too deep into the politics of
this, but you know, let's be honest about it. There is politics at
play. City Council is a political body. We're not. That's one of the
beauties of the Planning Commission. The people who created
the Planning Enabling Act, and so on, were wise people in the
sense that a lot of people might wonder why is there a Planning
Commission, if we're sitting here every night making
recommendations that just go to city council, and city council can
just override everything we do anyway. But the reality is, we're
serving a very important purpose in the sense that we are not a
political body; we are an appointed body, serving at the behest of
the mayor as part of the administration, and we serve a different
role in the sense that not only can we dive deeper into obviously
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each of these items than city council can with an agenda of 30
items, but also it creates some separation in the sense of this
body can look at items and make our decisions based on solid
planning principles and whatnot, where oftentimes the council
gets put into a position of political pressure because they're
elected and they need to secure votes and they need to make the
electorate happy at times, especially in election years. And
unfortunately, for, you know, the reality is those things do play a
factor in some of their decision making at times. I've been around
long enough, and Mr. Ventura certainly has as well. We've seen
many times over my years at least that, you know, council people
have sometimes had to make a decision that may not be the
decision that they want to make, but they're doing what's
politically expedient at times, and the so I throw that out there.
And we know this year there was talk of several moratoriums
early in this year. I heard not only about the data center, but I did
hear about car washes, gas stations, auto repair facilities. There
was, I don't know how far any of those went within the City
Council, I'm not going to certainly speak for the City Council, but
certainly a group of residents were calling for those moratoriums,
and there are people on the council who were discussing those
at meetings, and that's where we do get into that slippery slope
argument of, you know, for political reasons sometimes they...it
wins points by doing that, or at least discussing those things. I
agree with the views of my colleagues that this city has been very
business friendly, and has been known as a city where
petitioners, be it residents, sometimes they come to us for certain
things, but we often deal with businesses, of course, on these site
plans and waiver uses. They know that they can come to the city,
and we will work with them, and we will try to be open to uses in
the city and allow businesses to flourish and prosper in this
community. And we've historically done very well with that. And
there are certain communities over the years that have not had
that reputation. They have had reputations as ones that struggle.
That petitioners struggle in. They will have to go to the meetings
and meeting after meeting, and they'll have to make people
happy and to get approvals for their items, and oftentimes they
ended up in lawsuits because of you know repeated denials, and
now you got judges making the decisions on where a business
can go and how a business looks and how it can operate, and
you know our hands become tied, and our ability to control those
things get taken out of the mix when it gets into legal action. So,
we don't want that. So yeah, do I want to see the city enact
moratoriums for things? No, I don't. I don't think that's
appropriate, but do we need to? Our charge tonight is not, do we
like moratoriums or not. It's are we...we're trying to create a
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framework in which if the City Council wishes to propose a
moratorium, that they have a firmer foundation in which to and
process in which to follow, including limitations on how long that
can be, as opposed to just arbitrarily deciding any time they wish.
That's sort of what I see before us tonight. That's my thoughts at
this point. As far as where this goes, we have options. We can
say that we like this language as is. We can say we want this
language to be worked on further, and table it. If we do table, I
would ask my colleagues that we, in making that tabling
resolution, give some direction back to the staff, back to the
administration, the Planning Department, and Law Department,
as to what aspects that they would like to see sharpened for
sharpening pencils, as opposed to just blanket saying "figure it
out". So, I would at least recommend that if we go that direction,
and I have said my piece,
Excuse me. I'd like to respond to your lengthy dissertation by
giving you a compliment. That was excellently done. I thought it
touched on a broad range of concerns and realities as we sit here
as an unelected Planning Commission, as opposed and
contrasting to the position many times unenviable that city council
finds themselves in. And so I think I agree with Mr. Droze that I'd
like to see this tabled. In terms of specific guidance to sharpen
the pencil of the language. I'd like to see a clearer path forward.
In other words, how is a determination made that something is
going to be, or potentially is, threatening to the city, or to the
residents, or to the health and welfare of the community. There
needs to be some rationale behind that determination. It can't be
capricious, and it can't be the result of, I think, as you put it, the
flavor of the month in terms of public concern. So that'd be my
request of the Law Department is to give us a clear path forward
to find out how, if this is in place, it's initiated, and then I would
also like to see a shorter time period. I mean, I think...
Mr. Bongero: I think I agree with that. Shorter time period.
Mr. Ventura: I think a year is too long.
Mr. Bongero: Six months, maybe.
Mr. Ventura: We've got petitioners. We've got the public that we're supposed
to be serving here, and I think we are earnest in our attempts to
do that, and I think we ought to make it happen one way or
another. Really, we have an 18 month, and a petitioner is not
going to wait around for 18 months. They're going to go
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somewhere else, and so we need to show that we're willing to act
expeditiously to resolve the question. Thank you.
Mr. Wilshaw: Thank you for your comments, Mr. Ventura. Any other
comments?
Mr. Bongero: My biggest concern is the length of time. I liked everything Pete
said and what you had to say, Ian. I just think that that's way too
long. You got to shorten up the time period. Maybe even not even
six months. Seems like you could get a lot done in three months
and maybe extend it another three.
Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. Any other thoughts?
Mr. Droze: I would just echo the process. I think we look at any site that we
get at this table as a commission, and we always have the letters
that go with those submitted, and those are from really our subject
matter experts within the city that are looking for issues with
health, safety, welfare, and that to me is a good framework where,
you know, if those departments are seeing those concerns, they'll
be able to sign off on them, and then the staff is going to go right
back. Law is going to go right back to those subject matter experts
within the city, just as we did with data centers, where DPW
looked around and got a lot of good information, made informed
decisions about what went into that ordinance, brought in, you
know, subject matter experts as necessary. I think that to me
seems like a pretty responsible process, and I think Mr. Ventura's
framing that and putting that into the language would be really
helpful, and making sure that this is a...it's used sparingly. And
when it's used, it's an effective tool too, because we do want...if
it is something we need to correct for, which we saw with data
centers, let's have a clear process and you know work through it
quick.
Mr. Wilshaw:
Okay, thank you for your comments. I think we have discussed
this quite a bit. I do watch the clock, and I'd like to keep the
meeting moving. We've had a very effective discussion. We've
had a brief public hearing with brief comment from our audience.
I do appreciate that as well. It feels to me, and I'm not going to
stifle debate if someone wants to continue talking. But it feels to
me that we're probably ready for some sort of a motion.
On a motion by Ventura, seconded by Bongero, and unanimously adopted, it was
#10-69-2026 RESOLVED, That pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held
by the City Planning Commission on October 13, 2026, on
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Petition 2026-08-06-02 submitted by the City Planning
Commission, pursuant to the referral by the City Council to
determine whether to add Section 13.16 to establish the means
and reasoning for the creation of moratoria pertaining to specific
zoning uses within the City of Livonia, the Planning Commission
does hereby table this item to November 10, 2026.
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
ITEM #5 PETITION 2026-05-08-02 Chick Fil A
Mr. Droze, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda Petition
2026-05-08-02 submitted by Chipman Design Architecture on
behalf of Chick-Fil-A requesting site plan approval pursuant of
Section 3.11 of the Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended, to
include a windscreen between the existing columns by the drive-
thru door at 11700 Middle Belt Road located on the corner of
Middle Belt and Plymouth Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section
25.
Mr. Uhazie: Thank you. So, I do not have much to add other than the
petitioner has come back from the tabling, the previous tabling,
to propose installing permanent wind screens along the existing
drive -through lanes. It would take up the same amount of area
that was originally proposed.
Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Uhazie, before we get too deep, do we need to remove this
from the table?
On a motion by Bongero, seconded by Ventura, and unanimously adopted, it was
#10-70-2026
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Uhazie:
RESOLVED, That the City Planning Commission on October 13,
2206, on Petition 2026-05-08-02 submitted by Chipman Design
Architecture on behalf of Chick-Fil-A requesting site plan
approval pursuant of Section 3.11 of the Livonia Zoning
Ordinance, as amended, to include a windscreen between the
existing columns by the drive-thru door at 11700 Middle Belt
Road located on the corner of Middle Belt and Plymouth Roads
in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 25, does hereby remove the item
from the table.
Thank you.
So yes, this would be permanent installation of these fencing
panels. There would be decorative windscreen panels consisting
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of an aluminum perforated panel system finished in dark bronze,
shown here. Again, it would go between the existing columns and
along the existing canopy to provide windbreak. There are no
additional communication to read with this. I know the petitioner
does have a presentation prepared that can provide a little bit
more background. But that is all I have.
Alright, thank you, Mr. Uhazie. Any questions for staff? There's
no questions for staff. Our petitioner is here. Good evening, sir.
Thank you for sitting through a lengthy discussion about
moratorium.
Daniel Carver Hall Jr. with CPH, representing Chick Fil A, 400 West Fulton Street,
Central Florida. I'm here in regard to the revised proposal of the
windscreen at the 11700 Middle Belt Road, Chick Fil A. After the
commission's feedback on the previous system, we took a closer
look at the concerns raised about appearance, durability, and the
long term operation of the previously proposed system, and
tonight we propose a revised alternative that uses permanent
aluminum windscreen intended to better complement the existing
building and canopy. If you can move to slide two, please. Thank
you. So you can see, the revised design replaces the previously
proposed vinyl cordons with fixed wind screens made of dark
bronze perforated aluminum panels. The color and finish were
selected to better match the existing canopy and overall
appearance of the building. This system will be fixed in place, so
it will be it will provide a consistent appearance throughout the
year. Next slide, please. If you help me, the proposed windscreen
will approximately be 76 feet and 6 inches long, and about 8 feet
in height, and will consist of about 18 connected prefabricated
sections. Each section includes frame aluminum panels that can
be individually removed and replaced if maintenance is needed.
This allows individual components to be serviced without
requirement, with the required replacement of the entire
windscreen system at a time. Another important change is that, if
you see in the next slide, is that the windscreen will be supported
independently of the existing drive -through canopy. The existing
system will be anchored to be a continuous reinforced concrete
footing, approximately eight feet long, with a minimum width of 18
inches. The sections will be secured to the footing and connected
to one another, so the windscreen will not rely on the existing
canopy columns for structural support. The revised system has
been evaluated by a structural engineer using the 2021 Michigan
Building Code and AACE 716 criteria. The analysis is based on
108 mile per hour ultimate three second wind design gusts and
evaluates both the aluminum frame and members and their
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anchors under the resulting wind pressures. The results confirm
that the windscreen and anchors are adequately designed to
withstand the required wind loads and remain within the
applicable design limits. At this moment, I would like to address a
few concerns that were brought up during the previous study
meeting. The commission requested additional information
regarding sun exposure, lighting, and installation impacts. I would
like to provide that the panels would be installed in the grass area
for about two feet from the curb itself, which should limit the
exposure to the ice and salt applied within drive -through lanes.
The manufacturer has also confirmed that all windscreen
components will be powder coated for strong corrosion
resistance, and that the perforated panels are aluminum, which
provides additional natural resistance to corrosion. Together, the
aluminum construction and powder coated finish provide a high-
level resistance to salt spray. As another maintenance measure,
the manufacturer recommends washing off the windscreen to be
exposed to concentrated salt buildup. The proposed wind
screens is also not expected to adversely affect lighting beneath
the canopy. The existing under canopy fixtures provide
essentially illumination than the surrounding parking lot lightings,
and while they are perforated aluminum, they will also allow
sunlight to come through during the day. In fact, it will probably
make the lighting in the canopy, more compact, more light since
the other side probably have less light because it will be
obstructing the exterior, and the plan continues to know we don't
propose closing off the drive -through lanes for this. With that, we
believe the windscreen addresses the concerns raised during the
previous review and provides a more permanent solution for the
site. We appreciate the commission's time and consideration, and
respectfully request approval for a proposal. I'll be happy to
answer any questions you may have.
Mr. Wilshaw: All right, thank you, sir. Appreciate that presentation. Any
questions for our petitioner, Mr. Ventura?
Mr. Ventura: I have just one or two questions. So the central panel is
perforated and it's aluminum. Is it powder coated or anodized, or
how's it finished?
Mr. Hall: Yes, powder coated.
Mr. Ventura: Okay, and the frame, the dark frame around it, is that aluminum
as well?
Mr. Hall: Yes.
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Hall:
Mr. Ventura:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Droze:
Mr. Wilshaw:
Mr. Hall:
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And that's again powder coated?
Everything is powder coated.
Everything's coated. Okay, thank you. That answers my question.
All right, thank you. Any other questions on this? I think you
covered everything.
Love the engineering details. Three -body diagrams
Says the engineer. All right. Anything else from my colleagues?
This is an item that is on the pending agenda. So, audience
communication does require unanimous consent. But we only
have one person left in our audience. Mr. Karazinski, are you
interested in speaking? Okay, we'll not try to make a motion to
make sure that you can speak. So you're good. All right, thank
you. Anything else that you'd like to tell us before we make our
decision.
Thank you for your time.
Mr. Wilshaw: Alright. I will now go back to my colleagues. A motion is in order.
On a motion by Bongero, seconded by Droze, and unanimously adopted, it was
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RESOLVED, That the City Planning Commission does hereby
recommend to the City Council that Petition 2026-05-08-02
submitted by Chipman Design Architecture on behalf of Chick-Fil-
A requesting site plan approval pursuant of Section 3.11 of the
Livonia Zoning Ordinance, as amended, to include a windscreen
between the existing columns by the drive-thru door at 11700
Middle Belt Road located on the corner of Middle Belt and
Plymouth Roads in the Southwest 1/4 of Section 25, be approved
subject to the following conditions:
1. That the Windscreen Plan identified dated October 06,
2026, prepared by Vector Engineering, is hereby approved
and shall be adhered to.
2. That the Site Plan, prepared by Chipman Design
Architecture Inc., is hereby approved and shall be adhered
to.
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3. That the specific plans referenced in this approving
resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department
at the time the building permits are applied for; and
4. Pursuant to Section 13.13 of the Livonia Zoning Ordinance,
this approval is valid for a period of one year only from the
date of approval by City Council, and unless a building
permit is obtained, this approval shall be null and void at the
expiration of said period.
Mr. Wilshaw: Is there any discussion?
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution.
ITEM #6 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,250th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting
Mr. Droze, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of
the Minutes of the 1,250th Public Hearing and Regular Meeting
held on September 22, 2026.
On a motion by Bongero, seconded by Ventura, and unanimously adopted, it was
#10-71-2026 RESOLVED, That the Minutes of 1,250th Public Hearings and
Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on September
22, 2026, are hereby approved.
A roll call vote on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following:
AYES: Bongero, Ventura, Wilshaw
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Caramagno, Dinaro, Long
ABSTAIN: Droze
Mr. Wilshaw, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution
adopted.
On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,251st Public
Hearings and Regular Meeting held on October 13, 2026, was adjourned at 9:35
p.m.
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CITY P I NNING COMMISSION
Sam aramagno, Secretary
lan Wilshaw,