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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPLANNING MINUTES 2014-05-27MINUTES OF THE 1,055m PUBLIC HEARINGS AND REGULAR MEETING HELD BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LIVONIA On Tuesday, May 27, 2014, the City Planning Commission of the City of Livonia held its 1,055'h Public Hearings and Regular Meeting in the Livonia City Hall, 33000 Civic Center Drive, Livonia, Michigan. Mr. Lee Morrow, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Members present: Scoff P. Bahr R. Lee Morrow Carol A. Smiley Gerald Taylor Ian Wilshaw Members absent: Kathleen McIntyre Mr. Mark Taormina, Planning Director, and Ms. Margie Watson, Program Supervisor, were also present. Chairman Morrow informed the audience that if a petition on tonight's agenda involves a rezoning request, this Commission makes a recommendation to the City Council who, in tum, will hold its own public hearing and make the final determination as to whether a pefifion is approved or denied. The Planning Commission holds the only public hearing on a request for preliminary plat and/or vacating petition. The Commission's recommendation is forwarded to the City Council for the final determination as to whether a plat is accepted or rejected. If a petition requesting a waiver of use or site plan approval is denied tonight, the petitioner has ten days in which to appeal the decision, in writing, to the City Council. Resolutions adopted by the City Planning Commission become effective seven (7) days after the date of adoption. The Planning Commission and the professional staff have reviewed each of these petitions upon their fling. The staff has furnished the Commission with both approving and denying resolutions, which the Commission may, or may not, use depending on the outcome of the proceedings tonight. ITEM #1 PETMON 2014-04-02-07 PANERA BREAD Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2014-04-02-07 submitted by Panera Bread, L.L.C., requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(c)(1) of the Livonia City Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to add a drive -up window facility to an emsfing full service restaurant (Panere Bread), at 20140 Haggerty Road, located on the east side of Haggerty Road between Seven Mile Road and Eight Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 6. May 27, 2014 26418 Mr. Taormina: To summarize the request, this is a petition by Panem Bread to add a drive -up window facility to an existing full service restaurant. This is the Panem Bread that is on Haggerty Road just south of Eight Mile Road. The property is zoned C-2, General Business. It is surrounded by both C-2 zoning to the east and to the south and Professional Office zoning (vacant land) to the north. The properly is about 1.4 acres in area. Immediately to the south is a T.G.I. Fridays restaurant and then the larger box store to the lower right is the Target store. It was in 2007 when wavier use approval was granted to construct and operate the restaurant. Panera came back to us in 2008 requesting to increase the amount of seating within the restaurant. The seating was increased from 124 seals to 144 seats including 111 interior seats and 33 outdoor seals. The proposed drive -up window service for the restaurant would be provided on the east side of the building. This is the existing conditions plan. The hatched areas around the building will be the areas that will be demolished in order to make room for the drive -up window facility and the traffic lane that would serve the drive -up window. It includes the parking both on the south side of the building as well as on the east side of the building. All of those spaces would be removed or relocated. The traffic lane that would be dedicated to serving the drive -up window would commence on the south side of the building and then loop around to the east side. The highlighted areas on the plan are the changes that occurred between our study meeting last Tuesday and the meeting this evening. I'll go over those briefly in a minute. Orders would be taken at a point that is near the southeast comer of the building ahead of the pickup window which is shown near the northeast corner of the building. On the right hand side, you will see where the orders would be taken on the south side of the building. Then the cars tum left and approach the pickup window that would be located closer to the front of the building. Our ordinance requires that a drive -up lane have sufficient length to accommodate at least four vehicles ahead of, but not including, the vehicle at the pickup window. This plan does show sufficient stacking. When you consider where the vehicle at the pickup window would be in the upper left hand corner of this map, consider all the length of that drive-thm which is about 140 feet. That would be enough to handle the necessary car stacking to use that drive -up window. Drive -up establishments are also required to have a bypass lane. Based on our discussions at the study meeting, customers wishing to exit the drive-thru lane ahead of the pickup window can now do so via an opening that will be provided in the curb on the south side of the building. This is not something that was shown on the original plan. If you look May 27, 2014 26419 carefully at the clouded area at the upper right hand side of this drawing, you will see an opening in the curb. What will be used to define the drive-thru lane will really be curb landscaped areas, and previously that landscaping extended all the way around the traffic lane on the east side. But because of the concerns that vehicles wouldn't be allowed to exit earlier than going all the way through the drive -up lane, the petitioner has modified the design to include this curb opening to allow vehicles to actually exit ahead of the pickup window. Besides the bypass opening, there is also a pedestrian walkway that would be provided just immediately to the south. Because the main entrance to the restaurant is located in the southwest corner of the building, and there is parking on the opposite side of the drive -up lane, we had asked the petitioner to consider marking an area where pedestrians who park on the right side could safely cross the drive -up lane. So the petitioner has provided a concrete walk and painted crosswalk and opening through the curb. To accommodate the new drive -up service, seven existing parking spaces along the south side of the building would be removed and eight spaces on the east side would be shifted to the outside edge of the new drive-lhru lane. Parking required for the restaurant is 77 spaces and that is based on the number of customer seats as well as the number of employees, and there is an added requirement for drive -up facilities that they have at least two spaces beyond the drive -up window for patrons that have to wail for their orders. So Panera would require a total of 77 spaces. In this case, they are providing 74 so that does result in a deficiency that will have to be addressed by the Zoning Board of Appeals but it's only three spaces. There are no other major site modifications aside from what is shown on the plan in terms of providing the drive -up facility. No new curb cuts are proposed with the operation of the facility. The existing driveways that serve the site would remain as they are today. The only other changes would be to signage. Panes does want to advertise the fact that they have the drive- lhru and theyre adding a couple small signs. They previously went to the Zoning Board of Appeals for additional wall signs on the building and were granted those. From what we can tell, they're going to add the drive-thru signs underneath the main signs. That sign I think is identified as being just under 12 square feet in size and they're going to show that on the two sides of the building as well as a small awning over the pickup window. With that, I'll read out the correspondence, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Morrow: Yes, please. May 27, 2014 26420 Mr. Taormina: There are several items of correspondence. The first dem is from the Engineering Division, dated May 7, 2014, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above referenced planning petition. We have no objections to the proposed site renovation at this time. The proposed plan indicates that project will consist of adding a drive-thru window to the existing building which will not require Engineering Department permits. The legal description provided with the petition appears to be comect and is acceptable to this office. The legal description included with the plan set is for the overall parent parcel, and should not be used to describe the subject property. The address for the existing store is 20140 Haggerty Road and should be used for future comespondence regarding this project. The existing structure is currently serviced by public utilities, and the submitted drawings do not indicate any changes to the existing service leads. Should changes to the existing utility leads be needed, the owner will need to submit plans to the Engineering Department to determine if permits will be required." The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Civil Engineer II. The second letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated May 6, 2014, which reads as follows: "This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a request to add a drive -up window facility to an already existing full service restaurant on property located at the above referenced address. We have no objections to this proposal." The letter is signed by Daniel Lee, Fire Marshal. The third letter is from the Division of Police, dated May 2, 2014, which reads as follows: "1 have reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. 1 have no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Joseph Boilos, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth letter is from the Inspection Department, dated May 20, 2014, which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above -referenced petition has been reviewed. The following is noted. (1) Additional wall signage is proposed. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals would be required to maintain the excess signage. (2) A bypass lane is not provided for the drive thru lane. This may be waived by a super majority of Council. (3) The petitioner does not indicate any parking spaces beyond the drive up window as designated for use of drive up window patrons. This Department has no further objections to this Petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna, Assistant Director of Inspection. We received an email, dated May 27, 2014, from Donald Kleinknechl, which reads as follows: As long as the drive-thru window is on the north side of their building, it looks good to me." That is the extent of the correspondence. I might just add that the Inspection Department letter was submitted at a time when we were looking at the older plan. They have addressed May 27, 2014 26421 the issue with respect to the curb opening. It's not a full bypass lane but they have addressed that hopefully to the Commission's satisfaction. Then their last item with respect to the designated spaces beyond the drive -up window, the new plan does show two spaces would be marked for that purpose. Thankyou. Mr. Morrow: Mark, with the curb cul for the bypass, does that require Council approval or will that curb satisfy that or is that going to be their call? Mr. Taormina: That is going to be the Council's call. We will look at the ordinance to find out exactly how that reads. I think it does refer to a bypass lane and whether or not this satisfies that specific requirement, I don't know, but I think it's been used in the past, I believe it will address their concerns satisfactonly especially when you consider the fact that they're adding the landscaping in this case, which will be a nicer appeal to the site and the fact that we do have these operations occurring where they don't have a full bypass lane. They have similar type of openings and they seem to work. Mr. Morrow: But it has been addressed? Mr. Taylor: I was going to ask the same question. Do we still need Item 6 on the approving resolution? Mr. Taormina: If that refers to Council waiving the requirement, I would say we add it just in case. Mr. Taylor: Leave it in? Mr. Taormina: Keep it in there, yes. Mr. Taylor: Thankyou. Mr. Morrow: Are there any questions of the Planning Director before we go to the petitioner? Ms. Smiley: Mark, can you show me a drawing that shows the driveway and how you get in there and go around? Mr. Taormina: Yes. Lel me see if there's a better plan. This probably shows it the best. This is rotated in the opposite direction where north now is on the top part of this drawing. Vehicles enter from the south. That's the driveway that comes in off Haggerty Road that serves both Fridays as well as Panera Bread. As I understand it, there will be directional signage that will be installed that will May 27, 2014 26422 direct patrons to go in a complete circular motion, a counterclockwise direction around the parking lot in order to enter in the southwest corner of the traffic lane. In reality, will people turn lett and kind of sneak in that side? I think that will happen obviously if there's not a backup of cars there, but I think the intention is to have the patrons go around the site in a counterclockwise direction and then enter as they're coming in off this lett hand drive aisle. Ms. Smiley: Thankyou Mr. Bahr: Mark, the speaker where you order, is that at a point where somebody that has made an order or is in the process of making an order, are they still able to tum off or is that past the point where they can tum out of line in your judgment. Mr. Taormina: I'm going to let the petitioner speak to this, but I think the actual order speaker is almost directly across from this bypass. They could probably make that opening a little wider. If you prefer that people have the option of exiling the drive-thm lane even at a point where they're at the order speaker, then he could probably make some adjustments to accomplish that. Mr. Bahr: My experience is that the times that I most frequently want to gel out of line often have something to do with either when I'm at the speaker or I'm past it. I'm willing to set aside the bypass lane, personally, being past it just because like you said, the aesthetic appeal. What they've done here looks really nice and really balances out for me the concerns there, but if it's possible, and I guess I can bang this up when the petitioner is up here too, but if its possible to either cut that outjust a little bit more or even to move the order point up a little bit. I don't think it would take much just by looking at this. Let's say you're going through the drive-thru and either they dont have what you're looking for or you're not happy with something or it's a Panera Bread and somebody is coming through there with an order for 20 people in the office and they tell them they can't accommodate them - whalever the case. I just think it's important that there's an option for people to tum off there, and I dont think it would take much to make that change. I may be premature in making those comments, but that's my concern. Mr. Morrow: Like you say, you might want to move it a little bit further south of the curb. Anything else before I go to the petitioner? Seeing none, is the petitioner or his representative here? We will need your name and address for the record please. May 27, 2014 26423 Matt Diffin, Diffn-Umlor & Associates, 53115 Grand River Avenue, New Hudson, Michigan 48165. I'm the civil engineer and consultant for Panere Bread. Yes, we can move that curb cul up if you'd prefer to have it by the menu board. Our thinking was almost kind of the opposite, that you'd want out of line before you actually commit to ordering, but if you're at that point, it's easily moved up or we can make it a little bit wider, whatever you prefer. If we make it a little bit wider, you'd lose a little bit of landscaping but you could get easily out of those two last spaces instead of the one. Mr. Morrow: We're trying to work with the ordinance and make it the best scenario in lieu of an actual passing lane. I think you get the gist of what we're trying to do. Mr. Diffn: Yes. We prefer the landscaping, as I'm sure you would. Mr. Morrow: So would we. Mr. Diffn: So moving t 10 feet, 12 feet further, that direction, could easily take care ofthat. Mr. Morrow: Is there anything you would like to add to what you've heard so far? Mr. Diffin: No. If there are any questions. The planner did a great job presenting our material. Mr. Bahr: I'll just continue where I left off. Is there any risk or reason why the order point just couldn't be moved up a little bit so you can keep the landscaping? Mr. Diffin: The way that its typically set up is that you have the window and then three spaces, and then the order board and then you're slacking after that. Your ordinance, I believe, if is like everyone else's, is pretty much set up the same way. So if you move it back, then you start pushing those last three stacking spaces which are almost the same size as a normal parking space, which would be 9 by 20 or 9 by 18. You'd start pushing those last three stacking spaces into the parking lot. As you can see, we really don't want to move the window in the building because that's already been planned out and everything. Mr. Bahr: Yeah, I was talking about the order point, but I understand. You know your business better than I do. May 27, 2014 26424 Mr. Diffin: Yeah. That's pretty much standard what you see there. You end up with the window and then you end up with the three spaces, and then the order board and then three spaces after it. Mr. Bahr: Okay. I'm definitely a fan of more landscaping versus more pavement. Mr. Diffin: And it might be a case too because you can see at the end of the eighth car, there might be five feet there that we can scoot it to that - might not make any difference or a combination of the two. We scoot that five feet and scoot the bypass lane up five feel. Mr. Bahr: I think we're on the same page there. I loo want more landscaping than less. Mr. Diffin: We can make it work. Mr. Bahr: I would think as a customer and I would think its good business for you for people to have that option there to turn out at the order point, but again, you know your business better than I do. I'm just expressing my concern if there's a way without causing major havoc to do it. That's my concern. Mr. Diffin: I'm pretty sure we can accommodate it. Mr. Bahr: Okay. Thank you. Mr. Wilshaw: I'm listening to the discussion with Mr. Bahr and I haven't really thought much about where the placement of that should be, but I understand his logic, and I'm thinking of a place like Panera that is making food fresh. You gel to the order window and they say, I want a poppy seed bagel, and you say, I don't have any poppy seed bagels. Well, I might not want to place an order so I just want to pull out. Mr. Diffin: I agree with that. Mr. Wilshaw: In that vein, I'm trying to figure out how to do this in a way that minimizes the disruption of the landscaping because I too obviously think you have a nice landscaping plan and would like to preserve it as much as possible. I almost wonder, I hate to take out another parking space, but that southern most parking space that Mark has just zoomed into where car #4 is adjacent to, I almost wonder if you could just make that a cross hatch and almost a straight shot right out of that lane through that parking space. It's a little untraditional. May 27, 2014 26425 Mr. Diffin: The issue with that is your ordinance probably has some separation and tum radius and sluff coming off of that, similar to what's at the end. And then you couldn't just lose that one space. You'd end up losing probably two or three. Mr. Wilshaw: Yeah. Okay. And you are deficient in parking so you can't lose too much. Mr. Diffn: We're trying to gel every parking space we can. Mr. Wilshaw: Because I was looking at that parking space there saying geez, that's a lot of concrete you could use maybe for something else. But okay. Well, speaking of the landscaping plan, we haven't really talked much about the specifics of the landscaping changes. Can you tell us a little bit about what you've done for landscaping because obviously you're removing quite a bit to do this drive-thru. Mr. Diffin: The notes on the plan basically say, and it was planned because, mind you, we did this last year in the Fall and thought they were going to present it in the Fall. It calls for transplanting what was there because they had some nice trees. They haven't been there very long. They're easy enough to pop right out of the ground. The same with the shrubs. We wanted to slay consistent with what was already there. So we have transplant notes on there or replace. So basically, if it's not the time of season, if this ends up going in August, that material is probably not going to live and they'll just replace it with the exact same material that was already there. We got a few more on the current plan that you have that's highlighted. There's a few more shrubs than what we're taking out, but basically the same number of trees that was there and the same number of shrubs, the same kind of shrubs that were originally spec'd. The whole site has landscape theme to it, and we didn't want to go changing that up loo much. Mr. Wilshaw: Its a very attractive property as far as landscaping goes and it makes sense that you would try to preserve that. I notice that the pickup window itself actually juts out from the building as opposed to having a lane go right alongside the building like you see in a lot of fast food drive-thrus and so on. Is that also to preserve some landscaping along the building itself? Mr. Diffin: Yes. The back part, that would all be green along the back, but what that also does, the tum radius at the corner, that has to be a certain specific 20 feet on the inside radius. If you push that up against the building, then you have to push out, which pulls us into the drive aisles and sluff to the south. May 27, 2014 26426 Mr. Wilshaw: That looks good. That's the only questions l have for now. Mr. Morrow: I just have one comment. Obviously you have a very successful business there, and when I drove by, the parking lot is pretty well filled and I guess your client feels like this is obviously going to increase his business. Mr. Diffn: Yes. What it does is, they pick up a lot more breakfast business, the people slopping for coffee and bagels, things like that in the morning because the trend is, if you're on your way to work, you don't typically gel out of your car and walk into the restaurant to gel food. If there's a drive-thm there, you're more apt to pull into d. They've been doing these for about five years now and that seems to work out really well for them. The other thing is throughout the day, because of the food they do serve, they get a lot of call-in orders. Instead of people having to park and get out of their car and come in and wait with the same people that want to sit down, this frees up parking for those people in the actual parking lot. It does a lot. It gives them quick an uptick in their business just by making this modification where they can do d. Mr. Morrow: Will you have any promotions for your customers to say to call ahead if you plan on picking up? Mr. Diffin: That's usually the theory unless you're just ordering something fast like a drink. People learn by experience. If you gel stuck in one of the two standby spaces for 20 minutes because you ordered a lot of food, next time you're probably going to call ahead. Mr. Morrow: Learn the hard way. Mr. Diffn: Yeah. Mr. Bahr: How do the 74 parking spaces in this plan compare to what's there today? I was just looking through the notes. How many parking spaces are on the site today? Mr. Diffin: We lost eight, but there are eight stacking spaces. So it pretty much evens out. Mr. Bahr: Golil. Okay. Thankyou. Mr. Morrow: If there is nothing else, I'm going to go to the audience. Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to speak for or against the May 27, 2014 26427 granting of this petition? Seeing no one coming forward, I will close the public hearing and ask for a mofion. On a motion by Bahr, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was #05-26-2014 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held by the City Planning Commission on May 27, 2014, on Petition 2014-04-02-07 submitted by Panera Bread, L.L.C., requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(c)(1) of the Livonia City Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to add a drive -up window facility to an existing full service restaurant (Panere Bread), at 20140 Haggerty Road, located on the east side of Haggerty Road between Seven Mile Road and Eight Mile Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 6, which properly is zoned C-2, the Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2014-04-02-07 be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. That the Plan marked Sheet No. C-2.0 dated May 27, 2014, as revised, prepared by Diffn-Umlor & Associates, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 2. That pavement markings be provided across the drive aisle and drive -up lane leading to the entrance on the west side of the building for pedestrian safety purposes; 3. That the new plant material shown on the approved Site Plan shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Inspection Department and thereafter permanently maintained in a healthy condition; 4. That underground sprinklers are to be provided for all landscaped and sodded areas; 5. That the Exterior Building Elevations Plans marked Sheet No. A-5.1 and A-5.2 both dated April 25, 2014, prepared by Dennis D. Smith, AIA, are hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 6. That a bypass opening be substituted for a full bypass lane, the final location and dimensions of which shall be approved by the Planning and Inspection Departments; 7. That sound levels of any outdoor speakers shall be kept to a reasonable minimum so as to not become objectionable; May 27, 2014 26428 8. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition, and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals; 9. That no LED lightband or exposed neon shall be permitted on this site including, but not limited to, the building or around the windows; 10. That this approval is subject to the petitioner being granted a variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals for deficient parking and any conditions related thereto; 11. That the specific plans referenced in this approving resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department at the time the building permits are applied for; and 12. That all other conditions imposed by Council Resolution #52-07, which granted approval to construct and operate the restaurant and Council Resolution #373-08, which granted approval to increase the total seating capacity of the restaurant, shall remain in effect to the extent that they are not in conflict with the foregoing conditions. FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended. Mr. Morrow: Is there any discussion? There is one condition relative to the bypass lane and the Council, if I understood the Planning Director correctly, the jury is still out on that. They may concur in accomplishing the same type of thing and waive that requirement, but I guess we'll find out about that as it progresses to the Council. Mr. Diffin: As we discussed at the work session, we could actually get rid of the landscaped areas and push that up against the building and there would be a legitimate bypass lane there. Mr. Morrow: That's what we'll see. That one condition may change. Mr. Diffn: Okay. Mr. Morrow: Anything else? Mr. Taormina: I could have easily checked what we did on the Tim Horton's restaurant at Five and Newburgh. It was a very similar design and I can't recall whether we still had to waive that requirement May 27, 2014 26429 because it was simply a curb opening and not a full lane. We'll check on that. Mr. Morrow: You refreshed my memory on that. That's exactly right. I think we're almost there. You just need the final approval that this satisfies the actual requirement of a bypass lane. Thanks, Mr. Taormina. We'll go with the roll call. Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution. Thank you for coming tonight and good luck. Mr. Diffin: Thank you for your time and it was pleasure working with Staff on this project. Thank you. ITEM #2 PETITION 2014-05-02-08 BIGGBY COFFEE Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the first item on the agenda, Petition 2014-05-02-08 submitted by EJB Enterprises, L.L.C., on behalf of Biggby Coffee #416, requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(c) of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to operate a full service restaurant (Biggby Coffee) at 37405 Ann Arbor Road, located on the southwest corner of Ann Arbor Road and Newburgh Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 31. Mr. Taormina: This is a request to operate a full service restaurant, a Biggby Coffee, located within an existing group commercial center that is at the southwest comer of Ann Arbor Road and Newburgh Road. The property is zoned C-2, General Business, which does support full service restaurants subject to waiver use approval under Section 11.03(c) of the Zoning Ordinance. The shopping center at this site is about 16,500 square feet in total size. Family Video is the only tenant currently within the shopping center. They occupy the largest space. There is room for about five additional tenants. Biggby Coffee would constitute the second tenant within that complex, and they would occupy a unit that is located on the Newburgh side of the shopping center. It is just under 2,000 square feet in total area. They are not proposing any outdoor sealing in connection with the restaurant, nor are they proposing any changes to the exterior of the building. Obviously, they would have to completely remodel the interior space to accommodate the restaurant, but there really wouldn't be any significant changes to the exterior May 27, 2014 26430 other than the addition of a wall sign. They are entitled to a sign that is 30 square feet in area. The floor plan shows a total of 30 seals. We advertised this as a full service restaurant in case they wanted to add a couple more seats. It shouldn't be a problem relative to parking. The shopping center has more than adequate parking to accommodate the additional use. With that, Mr. Chairman, I can answer any questions or go right to the correspondence. Mr. Morrow: Let's go to the correspondence and then we'll see if we have any questions. Mr. Taormina: There are two items of correspondence. The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated May 19, 2014, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above referenced planning petition. We have no objections to the petition at this time. The proposed plan indicates that project will consist of renovating the interior of part of the building which will not require Engineering Department permits. The existing structure is currently serviced by public utilities, which are to remain in place. Should changes to the existing utility leads be needed, the owner will need to submit plans to the Engineering Department to determine if permits will be required. The parcel is assigned an address of 37405 Ann Arbor Road, while the existing Plaza is assigned an address range of 37405 to 37465 Ann Arbor Road. The owner should contact this department to obtain a specific address for the proposed restaurant upon approval of the petition. The legal description provided with the petition is missing information, and does not close as written. The following legal description should be used in connection with this petition: That part of the NE /. of Section 31, City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan, T. 1 S., R. 9 E., more particularly described as the west 224 feet of the east 251 feet of Lot 1 and the west 270 feet of Lot 2, Horton's Subdivision as recorded in Liber 32, Page 24, Wayne County Records, Also, the southerly parts of Lots 26 and 27 measuring 111.32 feet along the west line of Lot 26 and 160 feet on the east line of Lot 27, Horton's Newburgh Subdivision, as recorded in Liber 37, Page 67, Wayne County Records, Also, that part of the NE/. of Section 31, City of Livonia, Wayne County, Michigan, T. 1 S., R. 9 E., described beginning at a point distant North 1266.17 feet from the East X Comer of said Section 31 and proceeding thence West 190.18 feet, thence North 160 feet, thence Northeasterly 39.16 feet, thence East 155.42 feet, thence South 178 feet to the Point of Beginning, except the East 60 feet thereof" The letter is signed by David W. Lear, P.E., Civil Engineer II. The second letter is from the Division of Police, dated May 16, 2014, which reads as follows: "1 have May 27, 2014 26431 reviewed the plans in connection with the petition. I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Joseph Boitos, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. That is the extent of the correspondence. Mr. Morrow: Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Mr. Taylor: Mark, evidently this is not an end cap so they will never have room for a drive-thru for the coffee shop. Is that right? Mr. Taormina: That is correct. Mr. Taylor: Thankyou. Mr. Morrow: Anyone else? Then I believe we can go to the petitioner. Is the petitioner here this evening? We will need your name and address for the record please. Ed Buison, 26900 Minock Circle, Redford, Michigan 48239. Mr. Morrow: Is there anything you would like to add to the presentation? Mr. Buison: No. Mr. Morrow: No other comments about the great service you plan on providing to the community? Mr. Buison: Our motto is serving great beverages to the community. I've grown up in Livonia so I know that I can provide great service to the community. Mr. Morrow: Okay. Are there any questions of the petitioner? Mr. Wilshaw: Mr. Buison, are you going to be the operator of this facility? Mr. Buison: Yes. Mr. Wilshaw: Do you currently operate any Biggby Coffee shops? Mr. Buison: No. This is the first one. Mr. Wilshaw: Are these franchise operations or are they corporately owned and you're managing them? Mr. Buison: Its a franchise. Mr. Wilshaw: And why this particular location? May 27, 2014 26432 Mr. Buison: We looked at several locations around southeast Michigan, and I really wanted to be in Livonia because I know the area. Its where I grew up. I'm still working with the developers at Biggby. They located this particular area in Livonia that could serve the population and was also not loo close to other Biggby locations to influence their region. Mr. Wilshaw: So you would consider this area probably a little under -served right now not only for Biggby but for all coffee shops, right? Mr. Buison: Correct. When we looked at the area, there is not really any so- called coffee shops nearby. There is no Tim Horton's or Starbucks. The majority is McDonald's or Dunkin' Donuts but that's near 275. So this particular area within five miles there is not really any specialty coffee stores. Mr. Wilshaw: Definitely. That's kind of what I saw when I looked in the area and drove around. We looked atthis property several years ago when someone wanted to put an ice cream shop in that space. We approved that but it never went in. The context of this type of business isn't really significantly different in the sense that this is sort of a fast place to pop in and gel a cup of coffee or pastry or whatever. If the site was good for a quick ice cream cone, I think its fine for a cup of coffee. I think that's a good location. You're not planning any significant exterior changes, but the building is kind of bland as it is. Are you just going to put a sign up? You're not putting in any awnings or windows or signage or anything else? Mr. Buison: We have the recommendation to just put the sign on the building and then later approach the idea of exterior signage on the monument sign, but it is our understanding that the current Family Video monument sign lakes up the full maximum area according to ordinance. So we would need to apply for approval for a bigger sign. They fell right now we can just proceed with the building sign. Mr. Wilshaw: Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. Mr. Taylor: Just for your information, we had an ice cream shop come through on the end cap, as you were just told. They had a chance to put a drive-thru in, and I just wondered if you looked at that or if that end cap is not as big or if you even thought about doing that? Mr. Buison: We looked at the space. When I had talked to Scott Miller from Planning, he said that when the ice cream store tried to go in May 27, 2014 26433 the side, that when they did a walk through, there was no way a car could tum around in that little alleyway next to the wall. Mr. Taylor: I tried it one time. Mr. Buison: Right. So it was never our intention to put a drive-thm there. The Biggby process is to gel the customers in and out as fast as possible. Besides the convenience factor of a drive-lhm, we don't expect, unless you're sitting in the store, that they're going to be held up too long inside. Mr. Taylor: I'm sure you'll do well there. Mr. Morrow: The Biggby's that I'm familiar with, they don't have a drive-thru but they seem to prosper with the walk-in trade. Mr. Buison: Right. This being a franchise, the corporation from Lansing, they recommend if it's your first store to not put in a drive-thru unless the location really makes it an advantage just because you're getting off the ground. You're still learning the concept. So this being our first, it was acceptable to not have a location where there was a drive-lhru needed. Mr. Taormina: Just to follow up on that, the only Biggby in the City of Livonia that has a dnve-up is at Plymouth and Middlebell, but the other at least two or three that we have dont have cinve-up operations - the one at Plymouth and Farmington and the one at Seven Mile and Farmington. They all do well, but one thing they do have is outdoor seating. I'm just curious if there was any opportunity for outdoor seating. I don't know what the sidewalk dimensions are here. Mr. Buison: The sidewalk is fairly close to the parking spaces. So if we tried to put a table out there, it would be very small, but there is the majority of seating inside. That can be looked at later. If customers start requesting to be able to sit outside, we can approach that then. Mr. Taormina: Fine. Thank you Mr. Morrow: It sounds like you want to get off the ground and get the business going. Then you can think of some other great ideas to keep it moving. Mr. Buison. Right. Correct. Mr. Morrow: Is there anything else before I go to the audience? Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to speak for or against the May 27, 2014 26434 granting of this petition? Seeing no one coming forward, I'm going to close the public hearing and ask for a motion. On a motion by Wilshaw, seconded by Taylor, and unanimously adopted, it was #05-27-2014 RESOLVED, that pursuant to a Public Hearing having been held by the City Planning Commission on May 27, 2014, on Petition 2014-0502-08 submitted by EJB Enterprises, L.L.C., on behalf of Biggby Coffee #416, requesting waiver use approval pursuant to Section 11.03(c) of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, to operate a full service restaurant (Biggby Coffee) at 37405 Ann Arbor Road, located on the southwest comer of Ann Arbor Road and Newburgh Road in the Northeast 1/4 of Section 3, which property is zoned G2, the Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2014-0502-08 be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. That the Site Plan dated March 28, 2014, prepared by Legacy Commercial Property, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 2. That the maximum number of customer seals shall not exceed a total of thirty (30) seats; 3. That an enclosed dumpster area shall be located within a practical walking distance from the restaurant, and the distance and location shall be approved by the Inspection Department; 4. That this restaurant shall provide disposal of grease waste in accordance with Section 13.20.380 of the City Code of Ordinances; 5. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition, and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals; and 6. That no LED Iightband or exposed neon shall be permitted on the site including, but not limited to, the building or around the windows. Subject to the preceding conditions, this petition is approved for the following reasons: 1. That the proposed use complies with all of the special and general waiver use standards and requirements as set May 27, 2014 26435 forth in Sections 11.03 and 19.06 of the Zoning Ordinance #543; 2. That the subject site has the capacity to accommodate the proposed use; and 3. That the proposed use is compatible to and in harmony with the surrounding uses in the area. FURTHER RESOLVED, that notice of the above hearing was given in accordance with the provisions of Section 19.05 of Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended. Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution. That concludes the public hearing items on our agenda. We will now go to miscellaneous items. ITEM #3 PETITION 2014-04-08-08 ST. MARY HOSPITAL Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Petition 2014-04-08-08 submitted by St. Mary Mercy Hospital requesting approval of all plans required by Section 18.58 of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, in connection with a proposal to reconfigure the hospital's parking lot and drive aisles at 36475 Five Mile Road, located on the southwest corner of Five Mile Road and Levan Road in the Northwest 114 of Section 20. Mr. Taormina: The changes proposed at Sl. Mary Mercy Hospital will be accomplished in several phases. The first phase is under construction right now, which includes the parking on the east side of the hospital next to Levan Road. The parking in this area is restncted mostly to staff and physicians, but because the changes shown were approved as part of an earlier site plan, the permits have been issued and work has commenced. There are two other significant phases to the development. I'm going to refer to this plan which is actually part of a parking study that dales back to July of 2013. Much of the changes that you'll consider this evening were based on the analysis that was done at that time, but this gives you a general breakdown of how the plan proposes to develop the parking and circulation in a very conceptual manner. On this particular plan, the east side is on the bottom of the plan. So where you see staff shown adjacent to Levan Road on the bottom of the drawing, that is the part that is under construction today. Most of the changes that you'll see May 27, 2014 26436 on the plan this evening will include everything to the right, visitor and staff parking adjacent to Five Mile Road, and then on the left hand side of that drawing, which is the large visitor parking area on the south end of the development. This is the overall proposed plan showing all of the changes when all of the phases are complete. A separate phase will include significant alterations to the hospital's northwest and northeast parking areas, and these are the parking areas that are on the right hand side of the drawing. Again, north is on the right hand side, east on the bottom of the drawing, west is on the lop and south is to the left. It's kind of rotated 90 degrees clockwise. The areas that we're looking at when we refer to the north are between the hospital's north main entrance and Five Mile Road. The parking is currently separated by a boulevard that runs in a north to south direction from Five Mile Road to a circular drop- off and pickup area which is right al the main entrance. There is a connecting driveway that is about midway that allows access between the two parking lots. The northeast and northwest lots are used by both visitors and staff. Modifications would include narrowing the center median of the boulevard and reshaping the circular drop-off and pickup area, expanding the southeast lot mostly to accommodate additional accessible spaces, expanding the northwest lot mostly to add staff parking, which would be furthest from the hospital, and constructing a new access road off Levan, which would be about 125 feet north of the existing dnve. This new drive will run in an east to west direction across the center of the northeast and northwest parking lots separating those two lots into basically quadrants. The northwest and northeast quadrants will be used for staff, and the southeast and southwest quadrants will be used for visitors. The new entrance driveway coming in off of Levan will provide direct access to the northeast and northwest parking areas. The driveway cuts across the center of the parking area and creates these various parking lots so that now they can clearly define where the staff parks in the northwest and northeast quadrants, reserving the two other southwest and southeast lots closest to the hospital for visitor parking and also expanding the area to the extreme south closest to the entranceway for barrier free parking. Another major planned improvement will be the construction of a campus ring road that would extend from Five Mile around the west and south sides of the hospital, and then connect back to Levan Road, linking all of the hospital's parking lots as well as the accessory components, including the service area, the emergency and ambulance drop- off, as well as some of the outbuildings on the campus, like the warehouse, the childcare center and the convent, which are all located on the west side of the campus. Next we'll look at the improvements to the south part of the campus. This is the plan May 27, 2014 26437 showing how it exists today. Part of the problem is its distance and separefion from the main hospital. What will happen now is that the ring road will actually be located at the extreme southerly part of the campus. Where currently there is an access road out to Levan Road, separating the south lot cutting it in two pieces, now the road will be shifted further to the south and there will be one large parking lot serving the south campus. Its a much more efficient design, and it eliminates confusion and provides better access not only to the south parking lot but to the emergency and ambulance drop-off areas. Overall, the changes would provide for a slight increase in the amount of available parking from 1,486 spaces to 1,543 spaces. This is a net gain of only about 57 spaces. The 2003 parking study that I referred to earlier revealed that there is adequate parking in terms of numbers. The problem really is pattern confusion, barrier free conflicts, congestion, grade separations, distance issues and a host of other things. They are trying to make the design much more efficient. While there is this perception from anyone who goes to the campus that there's not enough parking, the 2013 study showed that there is enough parking. It is just at very remote and awkward locations, and it's not convenient to visitors that go to the hospital. One of the things that this attempts to do is correct a lot of those problems. The visitor spaces are all striped at 10 feel by 18 feel in length. The ordinance does require 10 feel by 20 feel, but because the aisles are 24 feet wide, those can be reduced to 22 feet and comply with the ordinance. The depth of the spaces could increase to 10 feet by 19 feet. They still would be deficient but it would be an improvement by making the aisles a little bit narrower and that would be according to our ordinance. All staff parking is proposed at 9 feel in width. Variances were granted in 2010 and previously for not only deficient number of spaces but also the size of the parking spaces primarily used for staff. That variance was good for five years so that is due to expire. All of this will have to go back to the Zoning Board of Appeals for consideration of new variances. The plans provide detailed landscaping throughout all of the parking lots and perimeters areas. One area of concern is where the new entrance will be off of Levan Road. It is now going to be directly across from Meadowbrook Road, which is a residential street on the opposite side of Levan. There was concern previously about screening in the area when the south lot was built. There was a berm and some evergreen trees. What you will note on this plan is the continuation of that bene and planting of trees. You can see the extended buffer landscaped and the evergreen trees that would be provided along the west side of Levan Road. Lastly, in order to accommodate the proposed parking renovations, there is small section of the hospital's property that May 27, 2014 26438 will have to be rezoned from RUF to Professional ice. That area is located in the southwest corner of the site adjacent to the hospital's south parking lot. That is an area that would be developed for parking and the ring road. That is something that would follow after approval. Because this development is being phased, they have time to go through that rezoning process and not adversely affect their construction plans on the first two phases of the project. Thank you. Mr. Morrow: Is there any correspondence? Mr. Taormina: There are four items of correspondence. The first item is from the Engineering Division, dated May 8, 2014, which reads as follows: "In accordance with your request, the Engineering Division has reviewed the above -referenced planning petition. We have no objections to the petition at this time. The address for the property, 36475 Five Mile Road, and legal description provided are connect for the parcel and should be used in conjunction with this petition. The property is currently serviced by public water main and sanitary sewer. The submitted plans do not indicate any changes to the existing leads, so we do not foresee any impacts to the existing systems. Any changes to the service leads will need to be submitted to the Engineering Division for review and possible permitting. In previous discussions with the owner we have indicated the requirements for storm water treatment on the proposed site. The submitted plans provide details for the proposed development which appear to address our concerns. Detailed calculations have not been included at this time, so we will review the proposed storm water treatments during the permitting phase, once we have received a full Engineering plan submittal. It should be noted that the owner will be required to provide inspect and clean existing drainage outlets prior to placing any new storm sewer. The submitted plans indicate that two drive approaches onto Five Mile Road will be constructed to service the property. The approaches will need to be reviewed and approved by Wayne County, although we would suggest that they look into providing either deceleration lanes or tapers to ease traffic slowdowns on Five Mile Road. The plans also indicate that the owner intends to replace the three existing approaches onto Levan Road with two new, relocated approaches. The new southern approach will be relocated to align with Meadowbrook Drive on the East side of Levan Road, eliminating existing left -tum confilcts. Proposed alignments and grading for the onaite roadway will encroach into existing regulated wetlands and flood plain areas. The owner will need to obtain MDEQ permits for the proposed work prior to Engineering Department permit appmval. We would like to request that the Planning Department review the May 27, 2014 26439 proposed landscaping to ensure that the owners provide sufficient screening between the proposed parking areas along Leven Road and the existing residences on the opposite side of the mad." The letter is signed by David Lear, P.E., Civil Engineer 11. The second letter is from the Livonia Fire & Rescue Division, dated May 6, 2014, which reads as follows: `This office has reviewed the site plan submitted in connection with a request to renovate the hospital's parking lots on property located at the above referenced address. We have no objections to this proposal." The letter is signed by Daniel Lee, Fire Marshal. The third letter is from the Division of Police, dated May 1, 2014, which reads as follows: "I have reviewed the plans in connection with the pefifion. I have no objections to the proposal." The letter is signed by Joseph Boilos, Sergeant, Traffic Bureau. The fourth letter is from the Inspection Department, dated May 20, 2014, which reads as follows: "Pursuant to your request, the above -referenced petition has been reviewed. The following is noted. (1) Parking spaces are required to be a minimum of 10' wide and 20' deep and double striped per City Ordinance. A variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals would be required to maintain the deficient size parking spaces. (2) Barrier free parking spaces are to be property located, sized, signed and striped. This Department has no further objections to this petition." The letter is signed by Jerome Hanna, Assistant Director of Inspection. That is the exlenloflhe correspondence. Thankyou. Mr. Morrow: Mark, when did you say the parking variances were expiring? Mr. Taormina: The variance was granted in 2010 according to our notes. They were time limited for five years, so that would be sometime next year. I don't know the month. Mr. Morrow: I couldn't remember what you said. Are there any questions of the Planning Director? Seeing none, I'll ask the petitioner to come forward. We'll need your name and address please. Steve Van Brussel, St. Mary Mercy Hospital, 36475 Five Mile Road, Livonia, Michigan 48154. I'm the Director of Planning, Design and Construction at Sl. Mary Mercy Hospital. Mr. Taormina did a great job. If I could, I'd like to add a couple more bits to the history and then be available for questions. I also have our civil engineer with me today. Jason Van Ryn from Nederveld will be available to help answer questions too if anything comes up. Mark really didn't leave much for me to talk about here other than we've significantly invested in the facility over the last few years as we've lmnsilioned from semi -private to private rooms and greatly expanded our emergency center. I think you've got May 27, 2014 26440 the presentation in front of you where we brought in our parking consultants, civil engineers and construction managers because we noticed we had a problem with the south side of the campus. There was just too much cross traffic between service, deliveries, ambulances, patients, visitors, and staff. We spent the good part of the last six, seven months trying to understand that and trying to solve it the best way we can. The current demand for parking is there. We just have them in the wrong spots and we're forcing people to try to navigate across busy service roads. We're really trying to address that here with this plan moving forward that we're presenting to you tonight. In addition to some of these new changes, we are looking at some service improvements, some operational issues. We're looking at valet services at both entrances. We're examining our own enforcement policies for our staff, which is a big problem. We're also looking at shuttle services potentially to help ease some of the congestion we're having on the south side. We continue to reduce our impact on the surrounding community as Mr. Taormina mentioned. We added detention around the south side of the campus. We're adding it to the east side currently with the project that's underway, and we're obviously looking at adding it to the north side to help control our slormwaler runoff and the effect downstream from our campus. We're obviously looking at extending the landscape buffer and creating that screen, continuing that screen alongside our residential neighbors. The configuration of the parking lot on the south side, the drive aisles are configured to go north and south so we're trying to eliminate any kind of headlights in the windows to our neighbors across Levan. That's all very deliberate in what we're trying to do, even aligning the access drive with the road. We're trying to keep our traffic and headlights from shining on the neighbors' properly. We've already relocated the helipad. Hopefully the noise is a lot quieter. As we move forward with our trauma designation, we should see less and less helicopter traffic now that we can handle a lot of the sluff in-house now. A couple other things. I mean this is prefly important for us. We recognize there is an issue with access and we want to make this very easy for our patients and visitors to gel into and gel out of. We want them safe. We want them to go home safe. With that, we have a pretty aggressive schedule to try to get as much of this done this Fall as we can. We're actually looking at trying to get the north and south sides done by the end of November when the asphalt plants close down. We've already started on the east side. We'd like to get the north and south sides done if possible this year. It's going to be aggressive and a lot of weekend work. We're making arrangements with Madonna for relocating some of our staff off-site during the summer months when Madonna is not in session so that we can make these May 27, 2014 26441 parking spots available for construction to try to gel it done as fast as we can. We're hoping this will relieve some of our south entrance congestion this summer. We're trying to split the traffic. We're trying to designate very specific areas for visitors, emergency traffic, ambulance traffic, receiving. We're trying to just make that safe for everybody. The north side, obviously if you've been out there, those parking lots are original, if you can believe it. Theyre pretty much at the end of their useful life. So we're in a position where we almost can't repair them anymore. They need to be replaced completely. So this is the time for us to do it and we're hopeful we can make this happen in 2015. As Mr. Taormina mentioned, the ring road as planned gives us time to pursue DEQ approval to put that along the back side. There are some wetlands in that back corner, the southwest comer, that we have to deal with. That gives us time to get those permits underway and then we can complete the ring road in the Spring of 2015. Hopefully, that times out with the Levan Road reconstruction project that is coming so that we can maintain access around the hospital during that time frame. With that said, I'd like to make myself and Jason available for any questions or comments you might have. Thank you. Mr. Morrow: Okay. Do we have any questions? Mr. Bahr: This is a really nice looking plan. You've obviously thought it out. I love the ring road concept. You've clearly thought this through. I have to ask though. I hear the increasing numbers. I hear about the congestion. I hear worry about people crossing traffic and wanfing to make it easy for people to get and out. You think about the weather in Michigan and the type of patients that you're dealing with. I'm hearing shutfies. I'm hearing valet. This is a site that is crying for a parking garage, and I'm looking at this and I'm seeing, while its all very well planned, I'm seeing this big massive expansive concrete at a site that would seem to have plenty of room, doesn't have the neighbor issues a lot of sites would have. I just have to ask. I know it's expensive, but you guys are talking possible future expansion. A parking garage? Mr. VanBmssel: We've talked about in the future. When Walker Parking Consultants was onboard, they basically said there's a breakpoint of about 300 spaces before it becomes economically feasible to put a deck on. When we've looked at all this, even projecfing into the future, that we weren't really approaching that limit yet. So that's why we've shied away from it. Although we did preserve some space if we had to do it in the future, that we could do that and do our best to fie -in, but we've tried to avoid that at this point in time precisely for the cost and then we didn't May 27, 2014 26442 need it to meet our parking demand even 10 years out. There's the install cost plus the maintenance cost that we were really trying to avoid until we were forced to do d. Mr. Bahr: For my own education, help me understand that. You said 300 spaces is breakeven. I didn't really follow that. Mr. VanBrussel: Not really breakeven, but where it makes economic sense to invest in a parking deck. Mr. Bahr: Three hundred spaces is what? I'm not following you. Mr. VanBrussel: Three hundred parking spaces. Three hundred vehicles. Mr. Bahr: What am I missing? I'm trying to follow this. Mr. Morrow: He wants to know what the 300 means? Mr. Bahr: What is the 300? You're saying ... Mr. VanBrussel: The size of the parking deck. You'd have to make it at least 300 parking spaces. Mr. Bahr: Okay. You need to have exactly 300 spaces. Gotcha. That's what I was trying to understand. Okay. Thanks. Mr. Morrow: Just to kind of lag onto that. It did come up at the study session. Mr. Bahr brought it up. Mrs. Smiley mentioned it at the study session. So the hospital is becoming a major hospital. Its growing. The one thing that came to mind when we were talking about parking space is, if we reflect on the winter we just had and just the sheer volume of snow that has to be removed, how do you plan on coping with that because we seem to be right al the breaking point even with no snow? Mr. VanBrussel: We continue to remove snow during the winter. To go back to Mr. Taormina's presentation, you had quoted some parking numbers, right around 1,500 is what we have today. Those numbers didn't include the east side where we're adding close to 150 parking spots. When the engineer put that together, he didn't incorporate the east side. That was done on our previous plan. So they just looked at everything else except for that. So we're looking at adding over 150 spots here this summer as soon as we can get that east parking lot done. So we're looking to alleviate a lot of that congestion immediately before this whole north and south parking plan starts. May 27, 2014 26443 Mr. Morrow: I think my point is the snow removal portion of it because if we have another winter approaching like we had this year, a lot of parking will be taken up with snow unless you're actually removing it from site. Mr. VanBrussel: We actively remove it from the site on the weekends as soon as we can. Mr. Morrow: Okay. So you do have an emergency plan for that. Mr. VanBrussel: Absolutely. That's been in place every winter. We maintain our own snow removal on campus. That's not a contracted service, and we will contract out to get snow removed from the campus. Mr. Morrow: I'm glad we brought that up because we are right at the borderline now. Ms. Smiley: You said that you're adding 150 spaces but you also said you have to redo those really old ones, right? So how many spaces are you redoing? Mr. VanBrussel: Where are you referring lo? I'm sorry. On the east side? Ms. Smiley: You said the ones in front of the hospital are old and beyond repair? Mr. VanBrussel: Its just the condition of the asphalt. Ms. Smiley: About how many are there? Mr. VanBrussel: Jason, do you know that off the lop of your head? Jason Van Ryn, Project Manager, Nederveld, 3025 Miller Road, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103. We're the civil engineering, surveying and consultants. Looking at it campus -wide, we're gaining about 150 spaces, including phase one. Now phase one is already approved through this body so that was not included in our numbers on our cover sheet. But when the entire campus is completed, we're going to gain about 150 spaces, I mean within 10, one way or the other. The most significant amount that we're adding is on the northwest side. We're adding another bay of parking on that side. The ring road that cuts through does eliminate a few of the parking spaces because now that's a solid field of parking and we're running that north road through there. Like I said, in general, when you look at the campus -wide plan, when all phases are built, we're going to have about 150 extra spaces. Mr. Taylor: How many employees does the hospital have? May 27, 2014 26444 Ms. Smiley: How many are you re-doing in the front? You said that they're torn up and bad. Mr. Van Ryn: We're redoing everything. The entire site is being redone. I guess I don't understand. The north lot, when he said the asphalt is in poor condition, we're removing all the asphalt and putting it back brand new, and adding 150 spaces. Ms. Smiley: So on the whole campus, how many spots would you have approximately? Mr. Van Ryn: Its right around 1,800, and today's its like 1,650. Ms. Smiley: Okay. Then what's the 300 for the parking structure? I guess that's what I'm confused about. You dont intend to expand the hospital any more. You're pretty much done. The rest of it can all be cement. Mr. VanBmssel: For the foreseeable future, yes. The 300 parking spaces was just an economic rule of thumb where once you needed another 300 parking spaces, it makes economic sense to invest in a parking deck. It's separate from the number of spaces that we're adding to campus as part of this initiative. Ms. Smiley: Okay. Well, 90 percent of the people I talked to about this project said they need a parking structure. The parking is terrible. It's inconvenient. People going to the hospital, all the people - it's not like you're going to a restaurant and it's optional and if you have to park out a ways, you maybe want that steak or whatever pretty bad to gel to it. At a hospital, particularly a community hospital that's expanded so much, the parking needs to be more convenient. I can see where you're trying to put the visitors closer, but it's still a good distance if you're injured, if you need to go to the doctor for whatever, and you still have doctor offices in there for like follow-up and for rehab and for people with cancer, even new parents. Its an improvement, but I really have to agree with Commissioner Bahr about it being a place that cries for a more convenient parking situation. I appreciate your efforts in trying to improve it with the ding road and all of that, but I don't know. Its not like housing where its more cost efficient to go up, but I would think with the cleaning, the snow removal, and all that kind of sluff. It would be better. You wouldn't have to infringe into or even work with the DEQ if you didn't have to go into that area, but you're the experts, I guess. I'm not. Its just something that I hope you do take a look al sooner better than later. Mr. Taylor: How many employees does the hospital have? May 27, 2014 26445 Mr. VanBmssel: Do you have that presentation. I apologize. I don't have that one. Hang on one second while I ... Mr. Taylor: No problem. I'd like to know the number of beds also. Mr. VanBmssel: We're licensed for 304 beds from the State. Looking at our parking study from Iasi fall, we have just under 1,400 employees, 135 physicians. That's not all at one time. That's total. Mr. Taylor: Fourteen hundred employees and ... Mr. VanBmssel: One hundred thirty-five physicians. Mr. Taylor: And I heard two different comments on the parking spaces. On my notes here, I have 1,543 and somebody mentioned more than that. I don't know. Mr. VanBmssel: That number was submitted by Jason on his plans. It did not include the east parking numbers, which was a previous submission that is under construction right now. So our actual parking count, with the east parking included, is roughly 1,650 parking spaces when we finish the east side that is currently under construction. Mr. Taylor: And you said at least 700 of those employees are there during the day? Mr. VanBmssel: Yes. Our study base demand that there be 780 employees there during the day of those 1,500. Mr. Taylor: That lakes a lot of your parking. There's no doubt about that. Did you say you're going to have a shuttle in the front also? Mr. VanBmssel: We're looking at R. We definitely have shuttle in the back currently today. Mr. Taylor: You have one shuttle in the back that I know of because I go over there. Its pretty lough to pick it up all the time because obviously if they're way on the south end of the lot, you say, well, I might as well walk. I know you have a couple golf carts, I call them, in the summer that work. But it just seems like everybody is talking about it and we all hear the same thing. You've really made a lot of improvements in the hospital, but it's a hell ofjob getting there, trying to gel to the hospital, especially like we all said, in the winter. Obviously, you're not planning a parking complex at this time, but that's what everybody would May 27, 2014 26446 like to see. I've been in Livonia 50 years and the hospital has come a long way in the time that I've been here, and I really appreciate what they've done. It's just I think they could have thought it out a little better with a parking complex. Thank you. Mr. Wilshaw: I may as well keep beating the same horse. I also think that a parking deck really is in order, but you mentioned that you had ideas to where you may put one in the future if you were going to. Can you share with us what the conceptual thought is at this point? Mr. VanBmssel: Conceptually, it was in the southwest parking lot, left of the south addition. Mr. Wilshaw: That's exactly where I would put one. If was king of parking decks, that's where I would put one. That's an ideal place. It's recessed behind the building. It's not terribly visible. It's close to the building so you can stack a lot of cars right there. You just have to make sure the helicopter doesn't hit it. Otherwise, I think its a good location. And it looks like actually the way you have it set up, if you wanted to change it to a parking deck even down the road, you could do that. Mr. VanBmssel: Right. That was the idea Mr. Wilshaw: Heck, you could even have a crosswalk or something to go right to the building perhaps for ease of access. Keep that in mind. I really do think it's a smart idea as you guys go forward in your design plans for the facility. Commissioner Smiley's point and some of the questions that she was asking made me think, I think along the same lines she was thinking which is not only are you adding 150 spaces, but you're basically having to completely wipe out and reconstruct a good portion of your lot. If you're spending the money to do that, you're over the 300 spaces. You may actually be at a point where this makes the most sense to do it now as opposed to doing it later. I think that's kind of where Commissioner Smiley was going. At least that's what I was hearing in my mind as well. Anyways, that's enough on parking decks I guess. A couple other little details. I don't see deceleration lanes either on Levan or on Five Mile Road for the new entrances. You cumenfly have a deceleration lane, a really nice one, that was put in at the old emergency entrance, which obviously is not being used anymore and is going to be eliminated as part of this. Are you going to make a change in these plans to reflect deceleration lanes for those primary entrances to the building? May 27, 2014 26447 Mr. VanBrussel: It wasn't planned at this point. We weren't planning on any deceleration lanes. Mr. Wilshaw: It might be something to think about because you have ambulances coming in there. You have other people trying to gel in and deceleration lanes sometimes make it a little easier for people to pull in. Signage on the site is also important. I know we talked at the study meeting and you were sort of on the conservative side of signage to try to go for aesthetics. Of course, the nature of people going to hospitals is they're in a panic. Theyre concerned. They really need as much signage as possible. I mean just smack right in their face to make it very clear where they need to park and how to get into the building as quickly as possible. So I certainly suggest anything you can do to improve that would be good. Mr. VanBrussel: Absolutely. Mr. Wilshaw: I do think you have a couple nice elements you incorporated into your plan as you thought through this. Clearly you've given this a lot of thought. Two of the elements I just want to highlight that I think are just really smart is obviously the ring road. Ring roads are excellent designs in most large parking areas. It draws the cars out to the outer edge so that the pedestrians can be on the inner circle and not being hit by cross traffic which is great. The other thing that you did, which I think is really nice, especially in the north lot, you pulled the visitor parking south of the road so that visitors have a clear, safe path from the parking spot to the building, while staff, which aren't in the parking lot that often, will have to walk past cars driving in and out, but they're doing that during sometimes off-peak times and so on. I think those are two good elements that you've incorporated into this plan, and I appreciate that. I think the only other concern I would have would be a left tum lane on Levan Road into your new ring road when its constructed. Right now, the lett turn lane ends way north of that area. That's a pretty major undertaking to extend a left tum lane all the way down Levan, but you guys are generating the traffic problem. I know there's an element in the approving resolution that goes to the point that we want to make sure that you consider it, because you're making the improvements and you're putting the traffic into that space, that you do the traffic study to see if left tum lanes, possibly a traffic light, or anything like that, is necessary for that intersection on Levan and the ring road when it's constructed. We want to make it as safe as possible not only for the people going to your hospital and from your hospital, but also for the neighborhood and commuters on Levan Road. Those are just my thoughts. Thank you. May 27, 2014 26448 Mr. Morrow: One of the concerns that the Commission and staff had as we've just gone through all the new parking spaces, we're adding spaces, we're configuring the roads, the entrances. Should this gel an approving recommendation tonight, we're going to ask for you to submit a detailed traffic study just to see how this is going to impact the area once you leave the campus. If you gel an approving resolution, we hope you'll concur in that. As part of the resolution, it will be more detailed on what we'll be asking for, but that's basically it. Ms. Smiley: I have one more question. What kind of security do you have in your parking lots? Mr. VanBressel: Its our own security force. It's not a contracted service. We have our own hired security forces that patrol the parking lots as well as the building. Ms. Smiley: Do you have cameras set up anywhere? Mr. VanBressel: Yeah. We also have cameras all throughout the parking lots. Ms. Smiley: Good. Thank you. I appreciate that. Mr. VanBressel: Could I ask a question about the traffic study? Mr. Morrow: Sure. Mr. VanBressel: Is that something you're going to want us to do before we undertake this? Mr. Morrow: I would imagine you're going to be doing it concurrent with the project. Mr. Taormina: With the permitting. Mr. VanBressel: We're thinking that some of the traffic on Levan Road will not be there because there's a lot of left turns backing up today. Obviously without a traffic study I can't prove that, but I guess until that road is built out to Five Mile, I don't know how we do a traffic study trying to capture the amount of traffic going left and right on a road that doesn't exist out onto Five Mile yet. I'm not trying to avoid it. I just dont know how soon you want it. Mr. Morrow: No, it's a bona fide question. In fact, I'm going to ask Mark to comment on it a little bit because he's a little closer to it than we are as it relates to the project and when this traffic study is supposed to be onboard. May 27, 2014 26449 Mr. Taormina: Like any traffic study, it would be based on certain trip generation. It would involve some analysis as to where the trips derive from and where they exit the site. Then they'll probably extrapolate that out based on the plan and make estimates on where all the turn movements would occur on the site based on the plan, and from that establish estimates and look at other things like gap analysis. So there are a lot of factors that go beyond my area of expertise. But in the discussing this item with our Engineering Division, they concurred that this is something that should be undertaken to determine if there are any traffic improvements that would be necessary along Levan Road that should be undertaken as part of this overall project. I would think that they would look to have that traffic study done before they finalize their permits for the work. How they stage that I don't know, but they'll work with the petitioner in having them conduct that traffic study and probably allow them to undertake certain work in the interim before releasing all of the permits for all the work until they know precisely what, if any, road improvements or other design alterations might be necessary that are recommended from the traffic study. Mr. Morrow: We're not experts but with the new ring road on Levan which complemented the subdivision street - what is it Meadowbrook? Mr. Taormina: Yes. There are a number of things that could come out of the traffic analysis like the need possibly for acceleration or deceleration lanes, restrictions on turning movements at certain times of the day, and the possibility of a traffic signal at that driveway at Levan and Meadowbrook at the south entrance here. So there's a wide range of recommendations that could come from that. Mr. Taylor: Just to continue on that. I've been in and out of Sl. Mary Hospital many limes, and a left hand turn lane really should come all the way from the new drive they're going to put in all the way down to Five Mile because trying to gel out of the hospital sometimes you can't. You cant get out so you would turn into a left hand tum lane. You might be able to make it like you do other places, but right now, it's tough getting even out of the hospital drives, and when you move this driveway to the north, it's going to be tough making left hand turns going onto Five Mile because it's going to back up there and its going to be hard for anybody to try to gel into the hospital that way. That's a city road. I mean we maintain it. Right, Mark? Mr. Taormina: That is correct May 27, 2014 26450 Mr. Taylor: Does the County sell have to approve work done on it? Mr. Taormina: No. Levan Road is fully under the jurisdiction of the City of Livonia. Mr. Taylor: We definitely need a full left hand turn lane going all the way, because obviously with the addition to the hospital, there's more and more patients, more and more people visiting. Mr. Morrow: Things like this will come out in the traffic study. Mr. Taylor: Yes, I hope so. I think probably it will behoove you to get the traffic study done before you gel to Council so you can say, here's the traffic study. I know from silting on the Council, we like to have the traffic study then. I know traffic studies are strange because whoever pays for the traffic study gels it to go their way. Thank you. Mr. Morrow: Is there anything else? Gentlemen, I'm going to go to the audience. Is there anybody in the audience that wishes to speakfor or againstthe granting ofthis petition? Seeing no one coming forward, a motion would be in order. Mr. Bahr: I've made my opinions known regarding the parking garage and they're pretty strong opinions. That being said, 8 is my belief that you're complying with the ordinances. You've got a nice, well-developed plan here, and I think our job here as Planning Commissioners is to not run your business for you. It's to make sure everything is meeting the requirements of the City and also to be a voice for the community. I think we've expressed that tonight pretty strongly with the parking garage issue. With that being said, you do have a well thought-out, nice looking plan here. Based on that, I dont see any reason not to bring forth an approving resolution. On a motion by Bahr, seconded by Wilshaw, and unanimously adopted, it was #05-28-2014 RESOLVED, that the City Planning Commission does hereby recommend to the City Council that Petition 2014-04-08-08 submitted by St. Mary Mercy Hospital requesting approval of all plans required by Section 18.58 of the City of Livonia Zoning Ordinance #543, as amended, in connection with a proposal to reconfigure the hospital's parking lot and drive aisles at 36475 Five Mile Road, located on the southwest corner of Five Mile Road and Levan Road in the Northwest 1/4 of Section 20, be approved subject to the following conditions: May 27, 2014 26451 1. That the Site Layout Plan — North marked C -205-A dated Apnl 25, 2014, as revised, prepared by Nederveld, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 2. That the Site Layout Plan — South marked C -205-B dated Apnl 25, 2014, as revised, prepared by Nederveld, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 3. That the Landscape Plan marked Sheet L-1 dated April 24, 2014, as revised, prepared by The Johnson Hill Land Ethics Studio, is hereby approved and shall be adhered to; 4. That the Petitioner shall submit a detailed traffic study to the City of Livonia Engineering Division prepared by a reputable traffic engineering firm licensed in the State of Michigan and performed by a Professional Engineer for a determination as to whether or not a traffic signal is warranted at the intersection of Levan Road and the Campus Ring Road, and/or whether St. Mary Mercy Hospital shall provide any other traffic safety, road improvements or design modifications in order to mitigate any foreseeable adverse traffic impacts on Levan Road as a result of the proposed project, and that prior to the issuance of any permits, the Petitioner shall post a cash bond in an amount to be determined by the City of Livonia Engineenng Division as financial guarantee that any determined traffic safety improvements are completed in association with this project; 5. That all disturbed lawn areas shall be sodded in lieu of hydroseeding; 6. That underground sprinklers are to be provided for all landscaped and sodded areas and all planted materials shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Inspection Department and thereafter permanently maintained in a healthy condition; 7. That this site shall meet either the City of Livonia or the Wayne County Storm Water Management Ordinance, whichever applies, and shall secure any required permits, including storm water management permits, wetlands permits and soil erosion and sedimentation control permits, from Wayne County, the City of Livonia, and/or the Stale of Michigan Department of Environmental Quality; 8. That all light fixtures shall not exceed twenty feet (20') in height and shall be aimed and shielded so as to minimize May 27, 2014 26452 stray light trespassing across properly lines and glaring into adjacent roadways; 9. That along Levan Road, from the north entrance drive of the south Marian Office Building parking lot to the southern edge of the hospital's property, sidewalks shall be installed to the satisfaction of the Engineering Department; 10. That the cross-walks shall conform to the Michigan Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices and pavement markings and signage shall be to the Police Department's satisfaction; 11. That the new southern approach off Levan Road shall be relocated to align with Meadowbrook Drive on the east side of Levan Road, eliminating existing left-turn conflicts; 12. That this approval is subject to the petitioner being granted a variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals for deficient size parking spaces and any conditions related thereto; 13. That only conforming signage is approved with this petition, and any additional signage shall be separately submitted for review and approval by the Zoning Board of Appeals; 14. That the specific plans referenced in this approving resolution shall be submitted to the Inspection Department at the time the building permits are applied for; and, 15. Pursuant to Section 19.10 of Ordinance #543, the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Livonia, this approval is valid for a period of ONE YEAR ONLY from the date of approval by City Council, and unless a building permit is obtained, this approval shall be null and void at the expiration of said period. Mr. Morrow: Is there any discussion? Mr. Wilshaw: Just a brief comment. In my rambling comments earlier, I did miss one point which was a question that came up at the study meeting that I wanted at least make sure was on the record. We did ask the petitioner at the study meeting about stormwater management as a result of all these changes. They said that the changes being made will only continue to improve stormwater management on the site, which I know is a subject that has been of some concern to the neighboring residents. So I just wanted to note that. May 27, 2014 26453 Mr. Morrow: That's a good point. I know theyre always interested when they start to see things being done over there and how it relates to some of the drainage. Thank you very much. Roll call please. Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. It will go on to City Council with an approving resolution. We appreciate your input here tonight and wish you well on the project. Hopefully, the traffic study will work out and any impact on the community will be taken care of. Good luck as you move forward. Mr. VanBressel: Could I ask for clarification on one of the items? Mr. Morrow: You surely may. Mr. VanBressel: The resolution about the Zoning Board of Appeals approval for the parking space variance. Mr. Morrow: Are we talking about the ones that expire? Mr. VanBressel: Yes. I heard some conflicting things like that might not expire until next year. Do I need to go back now and get that approval? Mr. Morrow: No. It's something that you've already got a variance on and that they will hold until next year or whatever the actual date is. Ms. Smiley: Mr. Taormina? Mr. Taormina: I think the Inspection Department will probably evaluate the changes with what was approved. If there are additional deficiencies being created with this plan, then that is something that will need to go to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Morrow: Do you understand that? Mr. VanBressel: I gel that. Yes. Mr. Morrow: If you change what you had, it might require some variances. Mr. VanBressel: Okay. Mr. Morrow: Thal will be worked out when you gel down to the detail. Mr. VanBressel: Okay. Thank you. May 27, 2014 26454 ITEM #4 APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1,054m Public Hearings and Regular Meeting Ms. Smiley, Acting Secretary, announced the next item on the agenda, Approval of the Minutes of the 1,0W Public Hearings and Regular Meeting held on May 13, 2014. On a motion by Taylor, seconded by Smiley, and unanimously adopted, it was #05-29-2014 RESOLVED, that the Minutes of 1,054th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting held by the Planning Commission on May 13, 2014, are hereby approved. A roll call vole on the foregoing resolution resulted in the following AYES: Taylor, Smiley, Morrow NAYS: None ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: Bahr, Wilshaw Mr. Morrow, Chairman, declared the motion is carried and the foregoing resolution adopted. On a motion duly made, seconded and unanimously adopted, the 1,055th Public Hearings and Regular Meeting held on May 27, 2014, was adjourned at 8:37 p.m. CITY PLANNING COMMISSION Carol A. Smiley, Acting Secretary ATTEST: R. Lee Morrow, Chairman